Complaint Review: OilTradingAcademy.com - Internet Internet
- OilTradingAcademy.com Henderson, NV Internet United States of America
- Phone:
- Web: www.oiltradingacademy.com
- Category: Work at Home
OilTradingAcademy.com Possible scam to teach you how to trade oil Internet
*Consumer Comment: OK, this is pretty funny
*Consumer Comment: Glad I found this site... And many others
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To 33rd Degree Mason
*Consumer Comment: Masons
*Consumer Comment: Votebots
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Very Happy
*General Comment: Where's the votes?
*General Comment: The computer running everything, thing...
*General Comment: Serious Mental Disorder at work here
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Oil Trading Academy And David The Real Deal
*Consumer Comment: hey, look
*General Comment: DAVID IS FOREX PEACE ARMY FELIX, MAYBE!!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Another Video Showing Proof All The Same Poster
*General Comment: Mathematical Malarkey
*General Comment: 90 votes in 10 minutes! I Love it!
*Consumer Comment: Heh. Also.
*Consumer Comment: Mathematically!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: 33rd Degree Mason Ways
*Consumer Comment: well...
*General Comment: David is seeking fame, this is an act I'm almost convinced, and it's working because he's profiting...
*Consumer Comment: Sorry...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff And All Masons Are Going To Hell
*Consumer Comment: blahntahtotown said it best...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To blah blah
*Consumer Comment: well....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: It's Funny Masons
*Consumer Comment: optics
*Consumer Comment: Press releases
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Freemason Forex Market Conspiracy
*Consumer Comment: Come one come all...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Perfect Example Of A Boxed In Individual
*Consumer Comment: IQ
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Mason's Have Low IQ's
*Consumer Comment: Another thing David doesn't do...
*Consumer Comment: Refresh...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Oil Trading Academy Reviews
*Consumer Comment: Hey David. Another day another $1.00
*General Comment: Selling videos containing trading advice to Individuals isn't Individualizing your trading advice?
*Consumer Comment: Anyone else picture David....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Freemason Conspiracy
*Consumer Comment: mental illness
*General Comment: Jeff - ROFL
*General Comment: David's press releases about to launch
*Consumer Comment: You tried Adiel
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Nobody Believes You Mason
*General Comment: TO ALL OF DAVIDS CLIENTS/ CUSTOMERS
*General Comment: David has lost the plot
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Adiel
*General Comment: David - Jeff has a point
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Selling Vidoes is NOT "individualized" Advice.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: ROTFLOL Masons
*General Comment: "Selling Videos" with "Trading Advice" and "Managing Accounts" You're still bound by regulations.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: God Speaking
*Consumer Comment: You Adiel... YOU tell me if he can trade
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Believe Me
*General Comment: David - So why dont you...
*Consumer Comment: Hi address is
*Consumer Comment: Who wants to know where David currently lives
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff's Posts Getting Dumber And Dumber Now
*Consumer Comment: Prove his system.... yeah right
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Email Forex Scum Will NEVER Get!
*Consumer Comment: I've Posted my Charts
*General Comment: David, Jeff, Neil and all those involved
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Biffco The Freemason Lying Scum
*Consumer Comment: David is not managing anyone's account.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Forex Scum
*Consumer Comment: This is all easily solved by asking David a few questions.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: People Are Waking Up Freemason
*Consumer Comment: No, it was you spamming, David.
*Consumer Comment: Mason's
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Biffco
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Biffco
*Consumer Comment: seriously....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Why Say Something So Stupid?
*Consumer Comment: Who wants to know where David currently lives
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Masons Sure Are Dumb
*Consumer Comment: Let me translate for David
*Consumer Comment: Masonic Truth
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: 50 websites
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: OMG David Kuvelas at the Oil Trading Academy is a SCAM!
*Consumer Comment: Sooo... Is that a NO on the talent show then???
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Big Mistake Masons
*Consumer Comment: OK OK you got me...
*Consumer Comment: The laugh continues
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff Lies Yet Again
*Consumer Comment: Was just on the webinar
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Slipped Jeff
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: It's Funny Jeffry
*Consumer Comment: no
*Consumer Comment: Actually... This is more for my entertainment
*Consumer Comment: Yeah, but Jeff....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: It's Funny Jeff
*Consumer Comment: David is getting more desperate!
*Consumer Suggestion: Comment on your video
*Consumer Suggestion: Please make a video about me and my posts david
*Consumer Comment: SPAMMING KING IN FULL THROTTLE. YET HE CAN'T TRADE!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: NOT A SCAM
*Consumer Comment: Hypocrite Randall... And your not??
*Consumer Comment: Obsessed Crazy People
*Consumer Comment: Come one come all...See the train wreck!!! David Kuvelas
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Oil Trading Academy
*Consumer Comment: More proof as David posts
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Jeff
*Consumer Suggestion: Agreed with Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Its True Randall
*Consumer Comment: Cowards Hiding Behind Keyboards
*Consumer Suggestion: OMG David f*cking crazy
*Consumer Comment: RE: $10,000 Reward
*Consumer Comment: Come one come all... STEP RIGHT UP!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Step Right Up Peek At The Mason's
*Consumer Comment: Step right up... Come check out the wizard of oil trading
*Consumer Comment: Obsessed Crazy People
*Consumer Comment: Also...
*Consumer Comment: oy
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Mason's
*Consumer Comment: Yes. It is easy to see what is going on Randall... Agreed
*Consumer Comment: Real People don't have this much free time.
*Consumer Comment: And if you aren't fully convinced.
*Consumer Comment: What's the point?
*Consumer Comment: You make some valid points Biffco
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Mason's Are Becoming Funny Now, ROTFLOL
*Consumer Comment: yes, narcissism
*Consumer Comment: That didn't take long...
*Consumer Comment: Since he's nuts....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: PROOF Computer Controlling Oil Price
*Consumer Comment: AGREED: Watch the videos
*Consumer Comment: Wow.. Amazing stuff!
*Consumer Comment: Wow.. Amazing stuff!
*Consumer Comment: OK, worse than I thought
*Consumer Comment: You mean this system???
*Consumer Comment: The System
*Consumer Comment: Ad-Nominems
*Consumer Comment: wow....
*Consumer Comment: A blast from the Past about David
*Consumer Comment: But David.. Don't go...
*Consumer Comment: See? Nuts!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: FBI
*Consumer Comment: David's not only a scammer - he's nuts
*Consumer Comment: Watch the master in action
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Time Running Short Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Wow! Naysayers=No lives
*Consumer Comment: Google Dmitri Chavkerov or Felix Homogratus
*Consumer Suggestion: Who would buy from David after reading this ridiculous thread???
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: $10,000 REWARD
*Consumer Suggestion: 100% agree with Jeff
*Consumer Suggestion: David Kuvelas is at it again and he will not stop until enough people expose him
*Consumer Comment: Here comes David's PRETEND friends to the rescue!
*Consumer Comment: Well said Biffco... One problem
*Consumer Comment: David I'm in to help you
*Consumer Comment: Yeah, no
*Consumer Comment: Google link didn't work, do this.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Biffco Scum Bag
*Consumer Comment: Proof of Spam
*Consumer Comment: Hey David... I am promoting your stuff!!! Woo h*o!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Spam
*Consumer Comment: David - what about comment spam?
*Consumer Comment: Let's begin again...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: $10,000 REWARD
*Consumer Comment: David you are a pathetic nutbag
*Consumer Comment: David Jeff is Felix Homogratus
*Consumer Comment: Riddle
*Consumer Comment: You Proved It David!
*Consumer Comment: OIL TRADE BULLSH*T ARTIST
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Now Jeff Is Having A Conversation With Himself, ROTFLOL
*Consumer Comment: Hey Scambuster...
*Consumer Comment: Great Stuff Here
*Consumer Comment: Arguing with a Sociopath
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Fruitless to argue with a sociopath
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Forex Factory Exposed-Neil Proven A Liar With IP Address For FBI
*Consumer Comment: I guess your right
*Consumer Comment: Ad Hominems
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Need a kleenex??
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Complaint To FBI Filed
*Consumer Comment: re: Haters gonna Hate
*Consumer Comment: Haters Gonna Hate
*Consumer Comment: Prove it David!
*Consumer Comment: David - such an idiot
*Consumer Comment: The first 30 posts say it all, nothing has changed
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Neil
*Consumer Comment: David - give it up!
*Consumer Comment: CHEESEHEAD - You don't know what you are talking about
*Consumer Comment: More Naysaying Nonsense
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Neil
*Consumer Comment: Randall - you are an idiot!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Jeff
*Consumer Comment: I stand 100% behind post #230
*Consumer Comment: Neil Seems to be Lying...
*Consumer Comment: David has never offered me a refund
*Consumer Comment: Jeff Contradicts Himself (again)
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Will Be In Prison Soon Mason
*Consumer Comment: David - so full of crap!!!
*Consumer Comment: Lets summarize David's latest video
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Mathematical Proof Jeff & Neil Are Lying
*Consumer Comment: I just did David/Randall
*Consumer Comment: Prove it Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Yes... I DID buy his garbage! Thats why I am here!
*Consumer Comment: David - give it up!
*Consumer Comment: Jeff=Online Stalker
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Neil
*Consumer Comment: David - go back on your meds!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Neil
*Consumer Comment: Randall - Get real!
*Consumer Comment: Yo, Jeff!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: As You Can See Law Enforcement, He Isn't Going To Shut Up
*Consumer Comment: Stop your crying David and SHUT ME UP!!
*Consumer Comment: Wow, Jeff's STILL Obsessed?
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hello Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Still waiting...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Now You SEE Why Forex Factory Needs To Go Down
*Consumer Comment: Please stop... this laughing is hurting my stomach!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Your Honor, please read...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Jeff
*Consumer Comment: GO FOR IT!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Surprise Coming Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Update
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: May The Real Con Step Forward
*General Comment: A complete Scam
*Consumer Comment: Good observation
*Consumer Suggestion: Thought it was funny at first...
*Consumer Comment: I am using he Code
*Consumer Comment: OTA - uncomplicated, exciting & profitable.
*Consumer Comment: Nice to see another common sense post
*Consumer Comment: SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!!!
*Consumer Comment: Oil Trading Academy is not a scam as far as I can see
*Consumer Comment: Can I SPAM YOU MY SECRET???
*Consumer Comment: Dennis
*Consumer Comment: Aren't these traders suppose to be too busy
*Consumer Comment: Support
*General Comment: Rules fo the System.
*Consumer Comment: Have to agree with Jeff
*Consumer Comment: I think you meant "loser"
*Consumer Comment: Trade Oil from someone with experience
*Consumer Comment: And the award for most sock puppets goes to.....
*General Comment: Scam
*Consumer Comment: Why all the hate......
*Consumer Comment: OK. He posted his webinar
*Consumer Comment: What a successful day
*Consumer Comment: Just got off of David's webinar
*Consumer Comment: lol, maybe he will sue me too!
*Consumer Comment: I'm big fan of this new Ripoff blog
*General Comment: Boring Naysayers, A Summary.
*Consumer Comment: Holy moly - this David guy sounds like quite the sleezeball
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Are Pathetic
*Consumer Comment: Empty words... Empty threats... blah blah blah
*Consumer Comment: When the student is ready the teacher appears
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Once Again Jeff Lies Through His Teeth
*Consumer Comment: Just an update
*Consumer Comment: *****OIL ALERT: Anyone can 'Google' this- DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS, and watch that video....
*Consumer Comment: No interest in buying what your selling
*General Comment: Nail Jeff
*General Comment: Boring Naysayers
*Consumer Comment: Any follow ups?
*General Comment: US Dollar tied to Oil
*Consumer Comment: *****OIL ALERT: Anyone can 'Google' this- GOVERNMENT UNCOVERS OIL PRICE MANIPULATION, and...
*General Comment: Personal Attacks
*General Comment: @Hans
*Consumer Comment: AMEN Hans and congratulations Jon!!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Changes Nothing
*Consumer Comment: I almost bought the videos
*Consumer Comment: PayPal Refund
*General Comment: Jeff's Emotional Meltdown
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Do You See How Tovar Just Keeps Saying Same Thing?
*Consumer Comment: Once again. the whackjob has a conversation with himself...
*General Comment: Tovar's Creepy Obsession
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Randall
*Consumer Comment: More of the same
*General Comment: Got it for free
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Defamation, Libel, Malice
*Consumer Comment: I'm waiting whackjob
*General Comment: Tovar's Ongoing Self-Contradictions
*General Comment: Tovar's Ongoing Self-Contradictions
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Are Begging Me Tovar
*Consumer Comment: Yo Randall (David)
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Big Surprise Tovar
*Consumer Comment: OIL POEM...
*General Comment: TORVO'S SELF CONTRADICTIONS
*Consumer Comment: If there is one thing I know, you are too much of a coward to do anything...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Soon Tovar
*Consumer Comment: Soooo.... I guess that means you are going to keep scamming then huh??
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Must Be Insane
*Consumer Comment: So you know my name... So what???
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff Is Tovar Octavio
*Consumer Comment: Hey David (Fransa) and David (Randall)
*Consumer Comment: ***OIL ALERT: Feel free to 'Google' this- DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS, and watch that video.......
*General Comment: @Randall
*General Comment: Jeff Admits: The System Works.
*Consumer Comment: Just got off of David's LIVE Webinar
*General Comment: @ Jeff
*General Comment: @Jeff
*General Comment: TIME
*General Comment: CHALLENGE TO JEFF
*Consumer Comment: I 100% stand by post #123
*General Comment: @ Randall
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Dreame
*General Comment: Macro Code, BJ System
*General Comment: BLACKJACK
*Consumer Comment: Code trading for real
*General Comment: Crazy Jeff's Obsession
*Consumer Comment: I offered...
*General Comment: Jeff's Latest Obsessive Rage
*General Comment: Opportunist
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Psychotic Loser
*Consumer Comment: To David
*Consumer Comment: Stop with the multiple posts by your multiple personalities!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Anybody Who Wants To See What A Liar Jeff Is
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Neil's Imcompetence
*General Comment: Jeff's Obsessed Stalking
*Consumer Comment: To David
*General Comment: @ Neil
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff Predictable As Can Be
*Consumer Comment: Predictable much???
*Consumer Comment: To Randall - System what System
*Consumer Comment: To Fransa the Racist!
*General Comment: Jeff's Obsession
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Jeff
*General Comment: Sympathy
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Amazing What You Freaks Say
*Consumer Comment: Maybe I missed something...
*Consumer Comment: To Randall
*General Comment: Oil Trading Academy
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Forex Factory Freak What Did You Say?
*Consumer Comment: Let me get this straight...
*Consumer Comment: David - Where are the updates
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff Forex Factory Scam Artist
*Consumer Comment: Neil. Don't be naive
*Consumer Comment: David, Fransa
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Neil
*General Comment: @ Neil
*Consumer Comment: Fransa - Read carefully
*General Comment: @ Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Chris - Learn to Spell!
*Consumer Comment: Now you got it David...
*General Comment: Neil Facebook
*Consumer Comment: Chris - Learn to Spell!
*General Comment: Jeff, is a PURE liar. But He is untertaining.
*Consumer Comment: Still Waiting..
*Consumer Comment: I challenged you on 6 items... Your response??
*Consumer Comment: To Fransa
*Consumer Comment: Oil Trading Academy is not a SCAM!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Going To Find You Jeff
*General Comment: To Jeff
*Consumer Comment: So to paraprase David in a few words...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Do You See What Jeff Does Now?
*General Comment: David is not a scam
*Consumer Comment: Hey Everyone... Look at the trainwreck David Kuvelas.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Fransa
*General Comment: Oiltradingacademy is not a scam
*General Comment: David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
*Consumer Comment: Demo
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Challenge
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: All People Who Say I'm A Scam Are Now Thwarted
*Consumer Comment: To David
*Consumer Comment: Jeff
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Neil
*Consumer Comment: It was a pleasure Jon
*Consumer Comment: To Supporters of David
*Consumer Comment: Behave
*Consumer Comment: I am a supporter of Oil Trading Academy
*Consumer Comment: Believe me David is not a scam.
*General Comment: David is not a scam
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Looks Masons Here Don't Want Anybody To Know Of The Code
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Retards, Morons, Idiots And Infidels
*Consumer Comment: Thanks Jeff
*Consumer Comment: A THANK YOU to our Brit friend Jon
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hi Jon My f*g Brit Friend
*Consumer Comment: A UK Take on Oil Trading Academy.
*Consumer Comment: To Jeff, the Lonely Internet Police!!!
*Consumer Comment: Hey David from Henderson, I mean Singapore! LOL
*Consumer Comment: Learning the help David is offering
*Consumer Comment: Read this entire thread... This is how he advertises
*General Comment: what do's an ACTA report have to do with oil trade?
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: World Is Filled With LOSERS
*General Comment: Damaging to my Psychological Well-Being and Very Unprofessional
*Consumer Comment: Sounds like a scam, smells like a scam. use your logic!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff The Psychopath
*Consumer Comment: I am not a self proclaimed scientist and philosopher but...
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: David IS NOT scam!!!!!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff The CryBaby Of The Planet Earth
*Consumer Comment: Is it me or YOU that is your own worst enemy David???
*Consumer Comment: It took me patience to understand it....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff The Loser Of Planet Earth
*Consumer Comment: Hey Chen, Amor, Henry, etc... DAVID
*Consumer Comment: To Jeff
*Consumer Comment: As predicted... More threats and fake reviews on same day...
*Consumer Comment: Watch Your Word
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jeff Whacked Out Of His Mind
*Consumer Comment: Now David is spamming ripoffreport with fake reviews!!! LOLOLOLOL
*Consumer Comment: The best money making opportunity ever !!
*Consumer Comment: The Only Review You Need to Read.
*Consumer Comment: Oil trading is not a scam
*Consumer Comment: Trading oil academy RAT ?
*Consumer Comment: What about the spam?
*Consumer Comment: Which of my accusations is a lie David??
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Cease and Desist
*Consumer Comment: Want more PROOF???
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Don't Worry Jeff, The Process Has Started
*Consumer Comment: Do your worst David.. Sue me
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Civil Lawsuit Coming Against You Jeff
*Consumer Comment: I tried to stay away BUT..
*Consumer Comment: NOT A Scam At All.....
*Consumer Comment: OK David we got it!!
*Consumer Comment: See for yourself, Nov 22. David's Proof of the Truth.
*Consumer Comment: I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
*Consumer Comment: I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
*Consumer Comment: Proud to let you know that I am a success
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: About Jeff
*Consumer Comment: Due Diligence - Something everyone should do
*Consumer Comment: I'm on David's side.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: About Jeff
*Consumer Comment: David's ain't a scam!
*Consumer Comment: He got me also..
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Travis The Con Artist
*Consumer Comment: David is NOT A SCAMMER!
*Consumer Comment: My experience is David is certainly a scammer
*Consumer Comment: I'll second that
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Have A Lot Of Nerve, and Even More Stupidity
*Consumer Comment: David Kuvelas
*Consumer Comment: I'm a customer of Davids
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I Guess Anybody Can Lie Anytime They Want To
This webiste looks very fishy.
Claims to have a system to trade oil and claims forex trading is a scam.
this may very well be, but a quick whois search revealed the domain owner and address.
the website doesn't give the last name of the brains of the operation, just David. but, whois shows it as David Kuvelas, living in Henderson, NV.
A google map of the address shows David lives in a huge apartment complex near the interstate...not the typical abode of a successful oil trader.
Other search turn this name up in Blackjack forums with claims of a can't miss blackjack system.
I smell a rat.
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#423 Consumer Comment
Glad I found this site... And many others
AUTHOR: George - ()
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 16, 2014
$400 or $1000 is not A LOT of money in the scope of life which is why I expect David uses those prices. People will part with that kind of money and not think a lot of it. It is a price point internet marketers can "get away with" because no one will sue for that amount of money because it is not worth it.
That being said, check out Big Mike's trading forum for more information on David and see what he wrote on his website just in the past few weeks. If is there for all to see what kind of a person he is which is AT THE VERY LEAST, mentally disturbed.
Notice none of his attempts to trade live have ever once worked out nor any of his trade services. Why is that? The ONLY conclusion is that he can't trade... PERIOD. His "code" doesn't work except on canned 'after the fact' videos. When he tries to do it live, he can't make it work, which means EVERYTHING right? I can do after the fact videos also all day long and take my best trade streak of the day and post it can I not?? Would you buy from me if I did that? No... Right? I would hope not anyway.
Check him out. Do your homework. He hates Jews, women, blacks, masons, and in one of his videos he discusses how he has no friends because of his disdain for humanity in general. But he will GLADLY take your money and post fake reviews all over the internet right?
Use your head people. Good luck

#422 Consumer Comment
OK, this is pretty funny
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 11, 2013
David had posted a couple of new videos. A fan of his named "Bart Romero" liked them and commented on them on YouTube, relating how much success he's had with the system, and also telling David not to pay attention to the people who "hate" him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xee3A0u4lKw
Bart is one of David's imaginary friends. If you notice the photo in the above link, it's obviously a stock image. Bart joined YouTube in November, and his only activity ever was on on these two videos.
But even if that doesn't convince you, look closely at Bart's Google Plus photo: it has the name of the stock image house ("Colour Box") emblazoned across it, and the URL even has the image's original name in it, "nice man."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-roaHJDKFcvk/ULL5P9xNPWI/AAAAAAAAABY/SEUWPfiGLwc/w932-h941-p-o-k/3801675-899550-nice-man-portrait.jpg
And just take a look here, at Colour Box's page:
http://www.colourbox.com/image/nice-man-portrait-image-3801675
David, who obviously must be very, very wealthy thanks to his figuring out that the markets are controlled by a Mason-owned computer, or whatever the hell, decided he didn't want to shell out the $12.50 to remove Colour Box's watermark from his sock puppet's "profile photo."
What I've wondered lately is whether David started out insane, and that's why he does all this stuff, or whether he started out as just a regular low-life scammer, and his insanity is both a reaction to people reacting to him being a scammer as well as a way to give himself mental cover and not feel guilty. I'm guessing it's a bit of both -- he started off nuts, and the mental illness has gotten more severe as the years went by.

#421 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To 33rd Degree Mason
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
"So David, we Mason's are dumb, pathetic,
lowlifes, and a 1000 times below you?"
I believe that you are dumb because you rebel against the living God, and unless you repent before judgment day you will suffer God's wrath at the seventh seal.
"But you sure do spend alot of time worrying
about us. Cracking our codes, telling the world of our evilness. If
we are so dumb, why would you be "trying" to crack our codes?
Would people this dumb "masons" even have codes to break? If we
are so much dumber than you, why are you the one trying to crack
"OUR" codes and warning the world of "US"?"
Again you misinterpret my meaning of the term dumb, obviously you have extreme intelligence, but again that intelligence is to work against God and for Satan so for this I call you dumb. If you were working for God and doing good I would call you smart.
"WE ARE, and always will be in
control!!!!!!!!! But you continue your quest because it is
extremely entertaining."
I agree with you and because of your knowledge of the cleansing I know that you are a genuine 33rd degree Mason. And now you know that I also have the same relative knowledge unlike most all people and so now we both know that we are genuine. What I'm saying is that I have the power and intellect to wake up a lot more people having been provoked like I have been here.
"To the person working on a compilation video of
David, please hurry, Im sure that will be a blast watching it."
You have to understand from my perspective that it's incomprehensible that somebody could get pleasure from what you're talking about. And it's not because it's about me you could make a compilation video about anything especially a person I don't think it would be possible for me to be more bored. So it's hard for me to understand how you could take pleasure in this other than to say that you are just evil and enjoy trying to hurt other people especially good people. This is why for instance if you didn't have good to try and destroy then you would simply destroy each other because that is your nature, but for now since you have a common enemy which is good itself then you are all working together for the common purpose. But in the event for instance that there were no good left, you would turn on each other and destroy each other for again that is your nature.
Personally I'm surprised that you are here attacking me I thought you were more professional than that, I thought you understood that you do indeed have everything under your control, what real threat am I to you?
Most people here what I have to say and either don't understand or aren't interested or do think I'm a little crazy, so I really don't understand why you consider me to be enough of a threat to come here and attack me all the time for over year.
Personally I think it's a bad play on your part, I think you would have been better off simply ignoring me, because this would have done two important things. Number one it would have never provoked me and kept me in a sedentary state bored most of the time. Instead now you have given me something to fight for, something to do, a reason to wake up in the morning and have something to look forward to when going to sleep. If we were in person obviously I would just bust your teeth down your throat very very easily, but since you want to hide behind a computer and the Internet and attack me anonymously and lie about me constantly you have provoked me to fight back through the Internet. Was this really what you wanted?
Number two by ignoring me you would not have made it so obvious to everyone that what I have must be of great value since I'm being attacked by you over and over again. By you doing this to me and making it so obvious you have given me even more credibility to people. I don't think you truly understand that.
And now you have given me the opportunity to use what you are doing and document and to show and teach people now about you and your ways, perhaps the truth is that you really like this?
But yes the truth is that you offend me in every possible way, and you can take 1000 of you and I have 1000 times all of your intellects put together and I know more than you could begin to imagine. This is why and how I can challenge you to a debate on any subject of importance in this world and you will not take that challenge because you know that I am far more intelligent than you are, and that is the reason you are here attacking me constantly because you know that I have the ability to speak the truth and that people will listen and understand. Granted most people won't understand and do not understand and are not going to understand, but for the people with whom it is meant for they do understand. But those people were never yours to begin with so you never lost anything to begin with, do you not understand? This is romper room information my Freemason friend.
This is what I don't believe that you being evil can understand because all you know is evil and all evil does is destruction and destroying and lying and manipulating all for the purpose to destroy. So without you having the brainpower to understand you build me up and make me a hundred times more than what I ever was, and propel me to be even greater than I've ever been because I've never had any such desires, I've never had a direct enemy to fight as I do now you.
And you can keep slandering me here on this board but I'm still getting sales at Oil Trading Academy and getting very good sales and they are increasing, but even if I never got one more sale ever again through Oil Trading Academy I have websites being built and have been built and I'm getting sales through these websites more than Oil Trading Academy has ever gotten, was this what you wanted?
Everything that you have said here on this board is the exact opposite of the truth, because this is your way, this is how you think, that's why I know when you say that this is all very comical to you what you really mean is that you are pissed off beyond description.
You're going to become more and more angry because I'm going to teach everything about you now through videos and through blogs and through websites. Was this what you wanted?
Perhaps God is putting it onto your hearts to attack me so that I would become what I am supposed to become, I do not know for like you I am simply on a stage unable to change my own destiny.
So my Freemason friends let's wake up every morning and see the sun come up and find out our destinies together.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#420 Consumer Comment
Masons
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
So David, we Mason's are dumb, pathetic, lowlifes, and a 1000 times below you?
But you sure do spend alot of time worrying about us. Cracking our codes, telling the world of our evilness. If we are so dumb, why would you be "trying" to crack our codes? Would people this dumb "masons" even have codes to break? If we are so much dumber than you, why are you the one trying to crack "OUR" codes and warning the world of "US"?
WE ARE, and always will be in control!!!!!!!!! But you continue your quest because it is extremely entertaining.
To the person working on a compilation video of David, please hurry, Im sure that will be a blast watching it.
L^33

#419 Consumer Comment
Votebots
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
I did a few minutes of research last night. Apparently, there are scripts available called "votebots" that drive totals up in a short time. You can either deploy one yourself or,a pathetically, buy the service, paying others to do if for you. David hasn't displayed much in the way of technical knowledge, so I'm guessing he pays for the vote rigging. You can do it on YouTube, too.
In his latest video, David revealed more about himself than I think he meant to. Watch his email carefully. There's a notice that his wire transfer to Ashley Madison was accepted -- that's a site for people cheating on their spouses, and people who want to have sex with cheating spouses. Classy! And also, what's with the wire transfer? Could it be that Mr. Successful Oil Trader can't get a credit card?
There is also mail from matrimony.org, a matchmaking site for Muslims. And yes, he has a profile there.
Nothing wrong with being Muslim, of course, or with joining a matchmaking site. But given the Russian bride thing, and everything else, you gotta admit this is pretty weird. I wonder how David squares his Muslim beliefs with all the bizarro conspiracy theories about the Masons, etc. Those things don't really go together, do they? At a minimum, given how much he likes to share his beliefs and "philosophies, you'd think he would have shared his Muslimness, right? Could it be that he's just pretending to be a Muslim in order to score some foreign 'tang?

#418 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Very Happy
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
I'm very happy to be pissing you Freemasons off so much like this, it's hilarious :-)
You guys sit here day after day and scream your little lungs out about how I'm crazy and a scam, ROTFLOL....
All the while everyday I'm getting more and more sales, and I think it's because of you too.
You don't realize how stupid you are obviously, people can see through your lies now and are buying from me. And the funny thing is I have new websites online being promoted and they are all making really good sales now and at the same time teaching about the Freemasons.
I never realized how pathetic you people actually were, to say you are a schmuck is an understatement, you are far worse than a schmuck, as you have been kicked out of every country in Europe many times for a reason. And just imagine schmuck, if people here in the USA were to find out about you then you would be kicked out of this country as well.
And everyday I'm teaching more and more people about you now, and I'm getting emails about it and people thanking me everyday. This is why you are going nuts here posting constantly to try your best to discredit me in anyway you possible can, making up one lie after another about me.
I cannot help but laugh in your faces as obviously I'm so far superior to you it's not even calculable, I have beat you in every way, I'm making more money than ever before and teaching more people than ever before and more people are waking up to the Freemasons then ever before, my traffic is steadily increasing to my website.
Freemasons have to be the most pathetic human beings on this planet by a trillion times....
But don't take my word for it Freemason, let me show you who you are:
Holy Bible: Mathew 8:9-12
"9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. 10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Holy Bible: 1 Thessalonians 2
"14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."
Holy Bible: Revelation 2:9
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
This comes straight from God's servant and God's witness, you are no Jew, you are the Synagogue of Satan, and it is I, David, who will teach the real Jews about you, and teach the Gentiles about you, and show everyone who you truly are. No more will you be able to do your evil and blame it on Jews, for you are not a Jew, but a follower and worshiper of Satan, the exact opposite of a Jew. And Jews will come to Christ and not worship your antichrist god.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#417 General Comment
Where's the votes?
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Just pointing out one last thing here...
I made post #415 early this morning before I began trading, probably around 6 or 7am, it's now Noon and there has yet to be a single vote YES or NO on it.
You're telling me that for 5-6 hours NOBODY came on this page to vote on the latest comment against him but the minute he visits the page for the first time today (which has yet to happen even now), then makes a post (accusing me and whoever else of being freemasons without addressing a single thing we ask of him to clarify), magically 90 votes appear within 30-60 minutes? This is sad and telling on two levels.
First, this proves to me with high probability that literally NO ONE visits this page except David and those of us who are skeptical about his methods. But once David does wake up and begin his daily routine which involves checking his inbox for the "messages of persecution" originating from this place and the freemason cabal that runs the world, then and only then votes will begin appearing in defense of his honorable and righteous posts which themselves defend his honorable and righteous yet secret code that will liberate you from financial woe.
Secondly, and most sadly, he thinks this page is doing him damage to such a degree it takes up hours of his day and alot of his energy, which is ironic because I think its most likely only himself and those that disagree with him visiting here anyway. And what for? I think he spends so much time and energy here is because its probably the only place left that he publicly and repeatedly and permanently receives negative feedback about his methods; he doesn't have a public forum on his own website so he limits his exposure, his posts on forums have been deleted or ridiculed into obscurity, his youtube videos have got such low amounts of views no one comments and no one notices (all factors that aggravate his Narcissistic Personality disorder). So again, its all about limiting his exposure to the public like most scammers do. Giving out his telephone number is a red herring, "here you can call me anytime and I'll sweet talk you into buying the secret code, and the macro code" or I'll let it just ring and ring. Even some of the people that come on here and defend him say "he goes off on tangents" but then goes on to defend the code. And what gives anyone that's not a trader or in the industry the authority to make an opinion on the efficiency of his method after one telephone conversation that they admit was filled with wild conspiracy and hyperbole? These random defenders of the code make less sense than the Freemason 33rd degree rants he spews himself!
Anyway, it's telling on a third level, think about the skill and determination it takes to make 90 fake votes via connecting and disconnecting from proxy servers in 60 minutes or less... For me it falls into the "evil genius" category which is so hypocritical because we're talking about a guy who claims to be so filled with God's love he is spreading a secret code that will bring down freemasons and all those that stand in his way and those that are keeping down the mass of humanity with their own evil. Ironically the goodness the code dispenses upon his "followers" is being defended by pure evil genius-type determination, not withstanding the fact that this "goodness of the secret code" earns him $500 per victim/follower, potatoe/potattto, tomatoe/tomattto, let's not mince words, it's the sentiment here; 90 votes in 60 minutes after 6+ hours of no votes, does anyone believe this is for real? I think he's thinking about it with longevity in mind, that 90 votes a year from now seems like nothing, 90 votes 365 days ago seems plausible, but I'm officially calling him out here and putting it on the record that 90 votes are appearing in 60 minutes or less and only after he wakes up and comes onto this site.
Will his next video address how so many people come and vote on this page in such a short period of time? Or will he ignore that question and continue to call me or whoever else a freemason shmuck out to suppress the "goodness of his secret code?"
Before he answers, his youtube videos from 3 years ago only have 300 views (so that's a base amount of followers) combined with $16,000 in sales giving him 32 clients total translating to 90 people coming here of their own free will to vote in 60 minutes or less is highly unlikely, even David that math/odds wizard can't deny that.

#416 General Comment
The computer running everything, thing...
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
This is to Blahnatown specifically, not David, (talking to David is like talking to a Pinapple), anyway, if you're interested, I saw you say his spin on a computer controlling everything is original. It's not really. Look up "algorithmic trading bots" and the "flash crashes" of the markets over the last couple of years being caused by these bots.
David saying ONE computer controls everything is up there with all the conspiracy theory crap, I've heard that crap too, like there's a "black box" system somewhere where bankers can go and just type in numbers and transfer money to themselves, crap like that.
But that's as provable as Jesus ascending to heaven after 3 days in the tomb, or a man living on the moon, or whatever conspiracy is hot at the moment.
What is provable is that major banking firms have caught on that algorithmic trading is the way to make SURE money in the markets, in short, what they do is enter a trade and within a fraction of a second they close the trade after a fraction of a cent (or more) gain.
Once you've been a trader trading real money for a while like me and unlike David, you come to realize that the less you expose yourself in terms of time with an open trade, from the moment you hit buy (or sell) the more likely you are to profit. Let's call upon David to draw up an equation for it if he likes, doubt he could. But the theory is being practiced now by major firms, actual stock TRADERS are being replaced by computers at JP Morgan, Chase, Goldman's, etc, with computer programmers that buy and sell millions of times per day thousands of shares hundreds of times per minute. Many books and articles have been written on the subject and there has been a call within the greater industry as a whole to do something about it; the day of the individual investor are coming to an end, computers (algorithmic trading bots) are taking over.
And to think David is trying to teach people a system that would have helped them (according to him and his multiple personalities only) five or ten years ago, when he should be teaching people how to code their own algorithmic trading bots which is where the SURE money is, I'm talking 99% computer precision accuracy, proven and working as we speak, 24 hours a day, 5 days a week. Whereas our dear friend is teaching a manual strategy that is 80% accurate which is highly suspect and will statistically doom the manual traders he "trains" (through generalized trading advice so he doesn't need to bother with minor things called rules and regulations of a place called the CFTC) to fail, and fail big, and fail quick.

#415 General Comment
Serious Mental Disorder at work here
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Honestly, I have nothing more to say if David will not address the factual issues here and keeps going on delusional, paranoid rants about how he's being persecuted by freemasons and the global elite.
So until David (and not one of the fake posters that he vicariously posts through) makes it abundantly clear that David is certified by the proper agencies of United States Government to legally SELL any sort of advice to the public related to commodities exchanges, I have nothing more to say to him or any more comments to make except put my two cents in about how he is clearly suffering from a rare mental disorder known as Delusional Psychosis.
I refer to an expert here: http://voices.yahoo.com/understanding-delusional-disorder-rare-mental-illness-8387359.html
- Delusional disorder is diagnosed when a person believes something quite wholeheartedly that is factually not true.
- Someone suffering from delusional disorder absolutely believes his delusion and no amount of presenting facts to the contrary will convince him he's wrong.
- Those who receive the diagnosis might have lost the capacity to determine what is real and what is not.
- Delusional disorder sufferers become so focused on the item of their delusion that other areas of their lives are interrupted.
- Social lives and professional careers in people with delusional disorder are profoundly affected due to the delusions.
- A person with delusional disorder might seem out of sorts or cranky.
- He might also have hallucinations, which are seeing, hearing or feeling things that aren't really there.
- Delusional disorder typically occurs for the first time in midlife--from age 40 and older.
- If you believe you could be suffering from delusional disorder, don't delay. Contact your general physician, a psychiatrist, or a licensed mental health counselor right away. The earlier the disorder is diagnosed and treated, the less severe it will become. Consult the sources below for more information about delusional disorder.
I also feel he is suffering doubly from a serious Narcissistic Personality Disorder which symptoms include the following:
- Reacting to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation
Example: Refer to every post he's made on this entire page if you have about 10 hours to spare. - Taking advantage of others to reach their own goals
Example: ($500 to watch a couple of videos on trading oil, that's a biggie) - Exaggerating their own importance, achievements, and talents
Example: "I have the intelligence 1000 times yours..." and similar comments - Imagining unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance
Example: Claiming to have beat the system, beat the computers that run the oil market and figured out a secret code that no one else has to make money trading oil (and blackjack). - Requiring constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
Example: Puts out a youtube video about every brain fart he has, attacking millions of people at once, not just Forex traders, but Stock Traders, Hollywood, the United States Government, Freemasons Society, et. al. that have been discussed above on this page and his youtube videos. - Becoming jealous easily
Example: Would have to observe him for an hour or two in his real life... - Lacking empathy and disregarding the feelings of others
Example: Comments like "most people are stupid...are sheep...will not reach heaven...will be wasted..." - Being obsessed with oneself
Example: Read this page! - Pursuing mainly selfish goals
Example: Refuses to address basic questions that would make me personally back off of him about his professionality and effectiveness of his methods and choses to instead react the way he does to keep earning $500 per client off of a video. - Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Example: Don't know him personally but I've seen his facebook page, he has no friends. - Becoming easily hurt and rejected
Example: LOL, read all of his rants above, or refer to the example of how he blew up on Forex Peace Army for them calling him a scam, creates a video about it, screams and yells and starts a war with the entire Currency Trading industry as a result. - Setting goals that are unrealistic
Example: Wants to destroy every Forex and Commodity related message board and blog with press releases or God knows what else he thinks can destroy them. - Wanting "the best" of everything
Example: Don't know the guy enough to see how he reacts to seeing things, but comments like "I live near the finest country club in Las Vegas" etc, make me think he wants us to think he's got the good life and we will too if we buy the secret code. - Appearing unemotional
This sure is not David, he's one of the most dramatic people in the history of the internet.
David is clearly suffering from nearly all of the symptoms of TWO separate and serious mental disorders that requires immediate attention for his own well being and the well being of the people around him; even the neighbors he avoids on his block need to worry about this guy for obvious reasons. The fact he will respond with "we're all in a conspiracy out to get him" denying he has a problem, going out of his way to make more videos trying to prove that which is not true, does not prove there is a cabal out to get him, when the reality is (for me at least, seeing many people get scammed similarly) I don't want people get ripped off by something that is so obviously B.S.; this entire RipOffReport page is a case study in how David is suffering from multiple mental illnesses as outlined above. And I literally do not say these things to mock him or hurt his feelings, at this point I feel sorry for him and he needs help, immediately, it's an even sadder thing that no one in his life is reaching out to offer help when its clear to people thousands of miles away from him he's got serious problems and people within arms reach of him in the real world can not. Sadder yet, perhaps he has no one left in his life to do that, or perhaps this is just an act like I suspected to draw attention to his Secret Code. Not sure, but I'm done here, that will make him happy that I wash my hands of this, but I won't be the last to question his business practices, his statements, comments, hours worth of delusional and paranoid rants past present and future, so without getting help, I don't see this ending well for him.
But all the best to you David, you're totally grasping at straws trying to prove everyone posting against you here, on Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army are all the same person belonging to the Freemasons and are grasping at straws voting your own comments up and our comments down thinking that will sway public opinion back in your favor...
GRASPING
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#414 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Oil Trading Academy And David The Real Deal
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I'm a customer of Davids
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
I've also been smeared on this web site, so when I saw that David had been by a person who "smelled a rat" whatever that means, I had to speak up in his defense.
I spent money with David, around $750.00 so I know what he delivers, unlike this loser who "smells a rat".
Based on my objective experience with David, I think he is somewhat eccentric in his beliefs and in the manner in which he conducts his trainings. But, I also believe that he delivers a valuable product on the subject of oil trading. I got a lot out of it.
Only cowards go online and make unfounded statements that hurt innocent people trying to enlighten others and make a living.
I smell a rat too, and it's the guy who took the time to smear David with the most ridiculous post I've ever read. Ask yourself why a person would do such a thing. My guess is he has a competing product or service and this is his cheap way of crushing the competition.
Think about it, would an ordinary person with other important things to do single out David and make this pathetic remark about his product knowing absolutely nothing about it?
My name is Scott, and I approved this message
I'll second that
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
As one who has also been slandered by scum like biffco who always stay anonymous and simply put out cowardly and incomplete statements only for the purpose of putting doubt in people's minds, I will second the challenge made by David.
I challenge you to reveal your cowardly self. We know this will never happen, because you live in the dark shadows and not even your wife knows you. You have secrets and and incompetent opinions just like the one you anonymously express about David. You know nothing and you do nothing. I have no doubt you work in a dingy cubicle or other horrible place and hate life.
I have no doubt that you are impotent and spend most of your time in a jack booth or in porn sites secretly and anonymously fantasizing about things you don't have the balls to go after.
David and I are different. We have opinions based on reality and study. We make things happen and we offer products to people to make their lives better. We offer solutions and we don't hide from the world like miserable scum like you biffco.
I am free, and David is free because we produce value for ourselves, and others. You are puke and produce nothing for yourself nor anyone else and because of this your life is pathetic and you, even though probably in denial about it, secretly know it, and it is that knowledge that prevents you from being a real man, from being able to argue with an intellect like Davids in the open, from being able to satisfy a woman, and from being unafraid of life.
Stay in the dark, that's where you belong. Or reveal yourself, David is not hiding from you, because he knows there is no escaping you. Scum like you will always be there spewing all your garbage anonymously as you have done here against David.
David is NOT A SCAMMER!
AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)
I was amazed when he introduced to me the blackjack strategy and I realized he is a great genius. I told my
uncle about blackjack who used to play in casino and my uncle grabbed one of the videos and it was worked well. I didnt hear any bad complaint from my uncle by then, but he just gave a big THANK YOU to me and especially to David.
Truly, David is a good guy and his concern to everybody. Tell me, who are the hackers that discovered something then shared it to others for its advantage? Answer? theres none, only David did. So, why you people got mad and angry for him to think you have its beneficial part? I think you just had a miscommunication to him and because you need to prosper that fast but you failed and then what you did was gave bad information of him. I dont blame you because that was your experience. In trading and as a trader there are always pros and cons but in this situation especially you have the ace how to win it or earned more, it should be have patience, determination and more practice you would able to reach what you want. Strike it every day little by little you are already on the top without noticing it.
For me, my relationship to David is doing well and my trading habit is working better every day. And I believe that I am not alone in this world being blessed of what David brought to me and I think I should not read your complaints against him and just shut up. David is a great guy, if he was selfish enough he wouldnt shared what he discovered and you wouldnt encountered him. He just wants to help us. He just wants to overcome our finances dilemmas. Thanking him is not enough.
David's ain't a scam!
AUTHOR: Scott - (United States of America)
I'm on David's side.
AUTHOR: LAnce - Los Angeles (United States of America)
David is not a SCAMMER and i will stand up for that. All he is trying to do is to expose what he has discovered, hoping to wake people up.His website offers a free live demonstration of the code for people to see and witness how the secret code works. And now people are calling him a scam. Is that how scammers do things? Guess not.
The only reason why these people are complaining is because they don't have the brain or maybe they have, but their brains are definitely not working, not capable of understanding and grasping what and how the code works. Too bad.
For me i will always be thankful because he has given me a way out of this declining economy. I am now earning so well and living a lavished, abundant life that i have always wanted.
Proud to let you know that I am a success
AUTHOR: Zander - (Canada)
We are just lucky that this guy who has discovered the Secret in the Oil market, is kind enough to share it with us Attend their free Trading Demo so you can see for yourself what I am talking about.
I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
AUTHOR: Bruce - (USA)
I admit, David and I had some misunderstandings at first, but we were able to settle it.I admire this guy so much because of his will to help others. And this guy is kind enough to spend his time entertaining my endless questions to the extent that it seemed like some of my questions were already nonsense. I am sorry for that David. But I should say thank you for your generous heart, definitely 400$ for the videos is not enough to repay you for the success that I am achieving now because of what you have shared to me and to the world.
And also I was able to attend the free live demonstration together with others who were curious and interested, and we were able to witness the what is calledthe secret code. Since then, I have continued to use the secret code in all my tradings and this is the reason why I earn more than enough every day.I dont want to talk about the exact figures I have in the bank for you to believe how successful I am by the using that code. But I just want to convey and prove that oil trading academy is not a scam, never was and never will be. I believe that David does not deserve to be called a SCAM as well as the OIL TRADING ACADEMY.
See for yourself, Nov 22. David's Proof of the Truth.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
Check out his Demonstration Room on November 22, 2011, and see if he's the real deal or not for yourself. I recommend it.
NOT A Scam At All.....
AUTHOR: Wilson - (Canada)
Trading needs constant practice. So if you are a beginner, do not expect that you can get much money as you expect. You need to work hard for it! If there is something that you do not understand, do not hesitate to ask David or people from the Oil Trading Academy, I am pretty sure that they will give you all the information you need to know.
Oil Trading Academy does work, they are not a scam at all!
Trading oil academy RAT ?
AUTHOR: william60 - pattaya (Thailand)
OK back to the issue, I really spent alot of time studying this before i purchased the videos both the advanced and macro code. I did exactly as instructed. I opened a demo account so i could follow what dave was saying in realtime and on the same platform he is showing in the videos. I was very impressed as what he had said worked well. It was work nothing is easy and not a get rich quick scheme you have to put in your time and efforts.
I have watched both sets of the code three times and i will tell you this every time i watch them i learn something new. I will spend again many hours this weekend doing it again i will view the videos and i am sure with confidence i will learn something new again. THIS SITE AND PRODUCT WORKS YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK TO LEARN IT !!. Please do not judge the person or product by where he lives, dresses or talks. I wish you all a very happy Holiday Season and a Happy new year. William from Paraidise [Thailand]
Oil trading is not a scam
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
Jeff, you need to open your eyes and see, these videos are real time and I have seen David explaining them before the actual action and it works.
David, Jeff is wasting his time and your time writing unnecessarily to spoil your name.
Thanks David for sharing this great secret with us.
The Only Review You Need to Read.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
David is an individual who believes in the truth. We are the type of people that believe, by concealing the truth, one is abetting and aiding those people who choose to conceal and suppress it.All of those people who claim it is a scam are too incompetent to follow instructions, or pay diligent attention to his instructions. He has a new set of videos coming out soon that will update, expand, and reconfirm his winning strategy.
Don't think I'm telling the truth? Then don't mind any of these reviews and go along with your life. All you're doing is missing out on one of the most precious opportunities of your life. Spread the word and spread this review.
The best money making opportunity ever !!
AUTHOR: Henryk K - (United States of America)
Regards,
Henryk
Watch Your Word
AUTHOR: Amor - (United States of America)
I can't help but notice your presence here, I have been reading your postings saying all youve got to put down David and convince everybody that he is a scammer. But whatever you do, you cannot prove to us and to everyone, especially to people who used the secret code videos successfully and until now their making their own fortune,that David is a bad man. I want to inform you that I am doing well in my trades using the secret code videos and thanks to David. The secret code videos are really working accurately well for me.And to you Jeff I can testify that youre wrong about his videos and youre saying the wrong words to David since I knew him in a long period of time. Im doing well in my trading with him and I cant believe that you describe him as a rat, scumbag, moron and etc. imagining David as that? That is Impossible because I knew him as kind, good man and honest exactly opposite of what youre trying to say about him. Those words you've described David seems to me that you're describing yourself. Better go and do something else and get a life instead of fooling people to believe you.
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Chen - (Taiwan)
It took me patience to understand it....
AUTHOR: xiang - (Taiwan)
David IS NOT scam!!!!!
AUTHOR: AliFiroozi - Karaj (Iran)
I don 't really know why you guys keep slandering like there is no tomorrow! why the heck are you doing this?
It sounds like you 're really enjoying this!
I 've been trading the Commodity Futures markets for years now and have always known for a fact that nearly all of them are controlled by a huge power! this without a doubt is Illuminati! well, cycles and patterns don 't lie! they do exist! but it looks like you guys don 't want to see the truth!
Dear Jeff, I 'm not fake! bought the videos three months ago and I 'm really happy I did! time cycles exist and David is right!
Please stop slandering!
Thanks!
#51 Consumer Comment
Learning the help David is offering
AUTHOR: Maria - (Singapore)
I have been reading this report long ago and it seems as though it's a constant bickering between David and Jeff. David being the subject of hate by Jeff.
To Jeff since you claim that what David is selling is just a scam why don't you debunk his videos and prove to us all that it is indeed a scam! Have you seen his videos? Because if so, you would have stopped barking by now but if you have seen his videos and still you are like this then I have something to tell you - stop barking, stop gambling and start studying the market. Truth is, the market will move up and down, up and down, and then shoot up killing all? your sells then it will shoot down, killing all your buys, the statistics has it that there that most people CRASH AND BURN, very quickly. It is Davids videos that can help you understand why it's happening and prevent yourself from going downhill with tradings that alone is already a big help worth more than the price he is selling his videos. So stop barking and start studying the market better yet start watching David's videos.
Thank you
To Jeff, the Lonely Internet Police!!!
AUTHOR: Chun - (Philippines)
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
I bought David's video' and are having great success with them, it turned my life around. I tried to help other people and share the code but realised most people are lazy and stupid and wants to be spoon fed so I gave up helping others and now keeping it all for myself.
Travis and Jeff and anyone here that rips David off I think you are all part of the stupid low lifes on earth. Instead of spending your time running David down go learn the code. Oh ...sorry you probably don't have the brains t do so.
Believe me David is not a scam.
AUTHOR: Ralph - (Philippines)
If you "haters" have really bought the videos, but weren't able to get the code and use them effectively, well then it's not David's problem anymore that your pea brains are so tiny to comprehend these things, you just simply don't have the intellect to understand the code and be successful.
You people should not believe in what these crazy people are negatively saying about David. Clearly they are liars and scums! I am so dismayed upon reading lots of negative remarks against David. I believe and i can assure you that David is not a scam.
I am a supporter of Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
Keep it up David and do not let anyone interfere with your business. God bless you.
David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
First of all, I would say its a waste of time to try to convince anyone here! But the only thing that I can say is that David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
Well before purchasing Davids product, I was skeptical, and was afraid of beeing scammed. But it resumed at last, to be the best purchase I have ever made.
I Can even tell, Its so simple that anyone who is trying hard enough to understand it, yet comprehend, the way that David teach it, will definitely Catch the secret and apply itrules. When you watch his videos, ITS ALL THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES!! WAOOOOooo!! :)
David, shared is secret with the world so we can all prosper(Money) in a way that would have never been possible for ordinary people. And you guys , are using all you energy to shut him down and saying only supposition like you believe to be true.!???
I seriously dont understand your behavior and that is SAD. Guess What, if you were using your energy to understand the code instead of insulting him in many ways ,you would have found what David is explaining in his videos!
I am just a normal guy like you all! But instead of presuming that what David was sharing was true or not I seriously tought it could be a Gold mine for me !! AND IT HAS !
I would like to remind you, The truth lays within (in each one of us). Like there is two sides on a medal, there is two sides on a coin, There is negative and positive, Good and evil..... In any of these, whatever you choose or accept, it will be a truth for you. Its a matter of belief.
The world that you have has come from within. What reflect the outside world has before started within you........ Thats the way it is and that will never change. If you think David is a lie, then your prophecy will be!! In the opposite, it also will become!
PS:. Personaly, I would not ever want to share a secret like the secret code....May be only with my closest friends and family members. Why bother with oders? Most people a skeptical at first!! People thought that Henry Ford , Thomas Edison ..... to only name a few , were stupide and crazy!!!
And look at it now!!!!!??? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Take care all, Peace!!
Christian
Qc/Canada
Oiltradingacademy is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
Oh and you guys taking David on for his grammar and language it is so laughable. I have found people doing that are usually the dump ones just cause you can spell does not mean you are clever. I have been taken on by many people about my spelling while they don't even bother to know that English is not my primary language,you see spelling does not give me the truth or make me rich, but I can tell you this much you dumbo's, cause of OILTRADINGACADEMY I am rich.
I might not spell all that well but I can tell you this much,I AM THE BEST OILTRADER IN SOUTH AFRICA. Oh and yes and I am a woman, intelligent and not lazy, I will even go so far as to say that what I learned from David and applying my own savy as well, I trade even better than him,that is what a good teacher he is.
If I could give you my telephone nr here I would so I can just tell you some more how dumb you are.
Fransa
South Africa
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
Jeff catch me on Facebook ..not many with my name, I am the one with the green eyes..lets see how clever you are.LOL
Fransa
Oil Trading Academy is not a SCAM!!
AUTHOR: Peterk - Irvine (United States of America)
I have traded the forex market. Let me tell you that this market is designed for you to lose. there's is no advantage in this market. Only the 1% win all of the time. People should jump on this advantage that David had discovered trading oil.
David is trying to help people break free of this matrix we all live in. Too many people are brainwashed in this matrix and just don't get the big picture. David is trying to get people to understand the truth out there. A scammer will just take your money and run!!
David's videos will help me to make money and become successful trading the oil markets because I have the code. who would not want an edge these days??? you would have to be on crack not wanting an advantage in the oil markets. My world has opened up since the 1st day talking to David.
Whenever I have a question, David response with a prompt answer about the videos. Brainwashed people just don't get the big picture on what's going on. I like working with David and he tells the truth. To all of you HATERS, you need to get a "freakin life" and better things to do than provide negative comments.
I stand behind David and his products a 100%. They will help me and anyone who works it to be successful in this declining economy to BREAK free of this matrix that we are all caught it. To all of you haters, go back to your miserable existence and get a LIFE
Jeff, is a PURE liar. But He is untertaining.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
Go Go Go. Take that sucker down!!! :D
I am hoping to see peace army............. going down and out of the internet!!! That is all he deserve
What a morron and parano....that guy his!!! unreal!!! Lollll
I think I will help you on his case!!
Take care And
Chris
ps: To all people that want to know the truth about David, Well, He is not a liar. And the code Works perfectly.
Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Why don't you pay for the videos and try out the system? I did. It works great. I'm having so much fun with it that I gave up the forex system I've been running for four years to run this system.
If you're going to impugn someone you should at least be able to back you claims up with evidence. You have not done so here. Maybe the rat you smell is looking at you in the mirror.
Sympathy
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
All he wants to do is piss you off, with his rambling about fake posts, he is so stupid that he can not even see what is fake and what not.
You can not fix stupid, there just ain't no tablets for stupid.
He does not even make an effort to come find me on Facebook , he just ignores all our post flat cause he knows if he does find me he will blow his cover.LOL
Well to Jeff and Neil and any other bozzo here that calls David a scam. I will tell you what his video's did for me and without bothering David ten millions times by email or phone , and I am sure he will testify to that, I have never ever even spoke to him on the phone.
2 Years ago I came across, Davids website while I was searching for brokers to trade forex. I was down and out after the bank took back my home and five other of my investment properties, cause as you know or probably don't know that America and England all controlled by Isra-hell and the Vatican which is Satan NWO it self which is busy screwing the whole world over.
South Africa, the richest mineral country in the world and also the only country that is going to stay standing after the pole shift,which these people know ,also had to go under the knife of these Satans, with their false propaganda about apartheid in our country and the man made god Mandela which is actually a terrorist in real life. So now our country which us whites build up was given to the niggers by your country America an her allies Isra-hell and England. That put us whites on the genocide watch list and excluded us from the job market with their clever Black Empowerment Equity plan, and I tell you what these stupid niggers could not have thought this all out on their own, so we know who is behind it as I mentioned.
So in view of this situation in our country I lost everything I owned , I could not get a job as I am white , female, over qualified and to old according to them buggers. I then borrowed money from my brother to buy David's video's and also used my borrowings to buy two contracts to trade oil. In the first 8 months I build my 2 contracts (at the time $1500 for 1 contract) up to 15 contracts. I now mostly trade with 10 contracts, anything I gain over that I take out. There are 3 and some times more that 3 macro's in a day and I am so experienced now that I can at times get +- 300pips (I call them )in one day with one trade. One can make 100 pips everyday taking a macro or scalping the strategies. If you sit infront of the computer 8 hours a day trading like any person working a 8 hour job ,you can do this.
I have just bought myself a farm and cash that was,and do you know much a farm in SA cost go Google it :)
Now I must say I am a very lucky girl cause we trade in $ right?..so when I bring my money over to SA I get 7 to 8 times more when my money gets exchanged to ZAR.
One macro trade with 10 contracts = $10000 , (Ten thousand dollar)
+-R180,000 on hundred and eighty thousand rand , people earn that here in a year.
This will be of value to you in the USA of +-$80 000.
I average between 1800 to 2500 pips a month, now I know not everyone can be at the computer as much as I do but I treat my trading like it is my job. And now I am about to get a Broker in
Europe where I will trade in Euro which I will get an exchange rate of 10 to the ZAR.:)
So guys maybe you should first be in life where I was before you get hungry enough to put in the hours and the effort I put in. I did not wait for a green and red light , I used my own savvy as well and made a huge success of it and figured trends on the chart that was the same as the automated strategies, even before David sold the automated strategies.
Ok now let me guess Neil will say proof it, Jeff will say its a fake post ,cause Neil wants to be spoon fed and Jeff is just here to piss people off cause he earns more than this smearing other peoples names.
I dont have to proof anything to anyone, specially not people that put in more effort to smear other people instead of spending their time making money.
You must all be out of your mind if you think I am going to divulge my personal stuff here to you.
And I actually don't give a rats a*s if you want to stay in life where you are. Or more likely you are the scared enemy itself posting here that makes a lot more money taking people money with you computer controlled trading.
I must say I just love making money from Satan himself.LOL
Thanks again David you where not a coincidence that crossed my life you where a God send.
PS:Now you will not hear much from me anymore as you are wasting my valuable trading time, I might just pop in now and again to come and have a laugh at your worthless ranting.
Kind Regards
Fransa
Jeff's Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Why don't you actually try trading the system? Is the system perfect? No, nothing is perfect. Does it work? It seems to for me. Cut your losses and let your winners run.
David has created new videos for each of the last two days. You can tell he's not cherry picking his trades, because the software gives you the daily score. If you actually run strategy runner, you will see that the top number on the trading pad gives you the profit/loss for the day, and the bottom one gives you the profit/loss for the individual trade in which you are currently engaged.
So if David was cherry picking his trades, you would see a large loss in the above box.
Again, you seem to have some sort of personal issue with David. Why can't you remain on topic and discuss only the system? If you don't like the system, move on with your life.
Code trading for real
AUTHOR: JDNeeman - (El Salvador)
First of all my name is J Dennis Neeman Sarano, and i live in El Salvador at the time, im Israeli Army reservist and Agro-industrial Engineer, i have been trading Forex for about 6 years, and NO im not David, you can write me or call me at jdneeman@gmail.com or at my mobile 50379283218 to confirm my identity.
the last year i came across David website oiltradingacademy, i bought Davids Secret code videos in the US and brought them with me but didnt had the time to watch them untill a month ago, i came to realize that the code was so obvious and real, and i started using it with my regular trading on forex specifically the EURUSD pair, if you have watched the videos you can properly identify the code and is amazing how other traders perform their trades using the code even if they dont know what the code is, you can search you tube real trades videos and look how the code just jump up most of the time, at the time i have started to trade Oil in my trading platform and have had a success rate of 70% and still working to get a higher success rate ( remember i only have 1 month trading with the code), then i saw the Macro code videos and i was set free!! i took only one trade a day using the macro code on EURUSD and Oil, my conclusion to people that come across this site and want to buy the secret code or macro code is: IS REAL, IT WORKS, ITS PROFITABLE, AND IS NOT SCAM, please if you buy this and request some help i can help you with my little experience and of course David is there to help us all!,
Wishing the best.
J Dennis Neeman.
Macro Code, BJ System
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Keep in mind though, just because something's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm not saying David's on par with DesCartes, who "discovered" analytic geometry or Leibniz, who invented the calculus. I'm just saying.
As for his claims of high percentages of success, what you say is accurate in a random market. However what David claims (and what imo appears to be the case) is that price action in the oil futures market is in fact NOT random, but is artificially contrived and manipulated. Now whether this is due to "The Illuminati" or merely algos of Goldman Sachs (is there any difference?) is neither here nor there. The fact is these are observable, repeatable and predictable phenomena.
Now I just want to say something about the Macro code. Wow! LOL. I'm blown away by it.
YO, JEFF! CHECK OUT THE MACRO CODE. For real. LOL. This is AWESOME.
Seriously, I'm checking out these macro code videos, then going over my old charts that I've been saving for the past month while I was running the more introductory "secret code" videos. WOW man! I'm leaving a ton of money on the table!

#413 Consumer Comment
hey, look
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
David says: "This is why these people would come to this board and keep attacking me over and over again, not because of what they say they are here for because I'm crazy because if that were the case they wouldn't even bother coming to this board, who would want to pick on a crazy person?"
Note the use of the plural. Even he knows his "they are all the same person" is a pantload. But I bet he doesn't even know he knows it.
David, I think the reason people keep saying stuff is that, besides being a crazy person, you're a serious jerk. And also because it's entertaining. You're a freak show, and this is better than reality TV. (And more real.)
I assume that David is registering multiple votes through some kind of script. I might investigate at some point if I feel like it. But yes, it's funny how he thinks it's fooling anyone. Dozens or hundreds of people vote in his favor, but don't bring themselves to actually post. I expect we'll be hearing from "Randall" soon. The chances that "Randall is actually David are about 100 to 1, but I guess it's possible there are one or two people out there who buy into this nonsense, even sticking with it through repeated losses. Such is the mind of the True Believer -- in anything.
I'm starting to think that insanity and the propensity to run lowbrow scams like this are often found in the same people. That Forex guy is clearly nuts, too, but the language, the themes, and the whole vibe is different from David's. That guy's at least is original. The "Freemasons" thing is a horrible cliche - up there with birthers, truthers, and Holocaust deniers, moon-landing conspiracy theorists, etc. David does put an interesting spin on it with the market-controlling computer, at least.
I didn't mean to say I think all Forex trading is scammy - just that people who talk about it on the Internet a lot and sell systems and so forth are usually scammers, from what I've seen. There is so much spam with the word "Forex" in it, it threatens to choke the Internet to death. I feel the same way about "SEO" - it's a real thing, and there are real professionals who do it, but most references to it are made by skeevy types and spammers.
I had totally forgotten that David was once married, or was about to be. I'm pretty sure he isn't now - way earlier on this page, there are references to him having snagged a Russian bride, but he had trouble controlling her, as related on some pathetic Web page for pathetic men who have Russian brides. And he was looking for advice on how to unload her. Romantic, eh? Imagine being this guy for even a day. Yeesh.

#412 General Comment
DAVID IS FOREX PEACE ARMY FELIX, MAYBE!!!!
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
It's almost abundantly clear. Someone I know just brought to my attention that Felix used to say CRAZY stuff like David is saying here.
It's not beyond the realm of possibilities, especially since David is admitting he believes in overlapping conspiracies within conspiracies, one person pretending to be a dozen people to sway public opinion.
David in his last comical video accused me of "making stuff up" and "saying pure lies" about Forex Peace Army which is ironic since David and Felix/Forex Peace Army are mortal enemies.
Or are they?
There's one of two things going on here:
1. Either what I said before is true which you can actually look up on the Internet Archives (everything I said about Felix setting up 10 websites selling access for $999/month to 1 chat room combined with this stupid boat seminar with a psychic to predict what the market will do -- all a matter of FACT that you can all google, archive.org, do whatever to see I'm not lying), this is true and David has chosen to literally pick up where Felix left off and offer access to trading videos that teach you to Trade Oil with 80% daily accuracy charging $500 per client; he even is saying he is about to set up multiple websites just like Felix did to "spread the code around" and get more people in on "the secret" which he never actually reveals.
The subplot to this all being, just as in the Felix Chat Room scam where he promised a former "high level bank insider" quit and is sitting in the chat room ready to give you a signal about a forex trade ... we have David sitting in front of his oil charts all day ready to give you a signal about an oil trade. Identical set up, different market.
or
2. DAVID IS FELIX!!!
Felix has been known to say kooky stuff, like he's ascended out of his body, etc, crap like that, just like David. So the fact that David goes and posts on Felix's forum (which is notorious for having posts that sway public opinion one way or another, its almost like a spy world, you don't know what to believe, friends are enemies, people aren't who they say they are) with his almost Identical Oil Trading Scam that Felix once had with his Forex Chat Room Scam and hundreds, thousands of people are turned onto it because there's all these fireworks could be part of his master plan, since his intellect is so superior to ours, it could just be.
Here's an email from Felix that circulated a while back, notice all the similarities to the crap David spews.
Today, for the first time in this life, I entered open space. My guys told me that today I completed development of my 33rd body, and started development of my 34th body.
So let me explain to you how I got into such state. At first you have to meditate on pituitary gland, which is behind the third eye.
Then you enter inside of this gland, and inside there is emptiness, and there is this blue ball suspended a bit above the center of the head.
Then you enter into that ball, and head becomes completely empty. Then you simply breathe, and enjoy the emptiness. Then emptiness becomes open space, meaning turns into black sky with stars. Then from this universal perspective, you can focus into any galaxy, and any planet, and on any planet enter into the body of any living being. And once you are in that being, you can feel what that being feels without
disturbing them one bit.
Funny huh? Coincidental, I mean, if Felix and David aren't the same person, they sure as hell sound like they would get along famously if they let bygones be bygones and Felix would let David's post go through on Forex Peace Army instead of mangling it like he did, which led to David creating the FOREX TRADERS ARE SCUM video starting a war with millions of people worldwide when he should have directed his anger at the moderator of the board that messed with him.
I actually know my #2 idea is false only to the degree that David does not sound like Felix, I have heard videos of Felix and he's a Russian guy and never made many videos, but David is definitely American, and David definitely does not shut up and loves to make videos about everything even when he's 100% wrong about what he's talking about. But that does not leave out the possibility that David and Felix are in cahoots. After all, there's no such thing as bad publicity when you're a guppy in the sea trying to get noticed and your old scam (the Forex chat rooms) fails.
And dude, you can stop with the voting YES and NO, it has NO bearing on any of the comments appearing higher, lower, or being hidden on this website.
How does that make the rest of you feel knowing David is literally sitting there connecting and disconnecting from proxy to proxy clicking Yes and No on these comments for hours of his day? Conversely, how does that make HIM feel I wonder, like, I'm 45 years old and I spend hours of my free time every day connecting and disconnecting from proxy servers to vote yes and no on Ripoffreport.com --- Ripoffreport.com is sure happy with all the extra traffic they're getting I'm sure, but it has NO bearing on people seeing through the B.S. :-)
Have a blessed Day David and all.

#411 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Another Video Showing Proof All The Same Poster
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Here is another video I've done today showing it's all the same poster here posting:
33rd Degree Mason
What people need to wake up to is the ways in which these Masons work because it's not just what they are doing to me here on this board they do this to everyone all over the world without them knowing it in many different ways.
I'm going to start teaching all of the ways the Masons do this to people through videos and through my blog. I have done a post at my blog today entitled 33rd degree Mason explaining more about how these people work and how they box people's minds into an obvious choice where both choices are wrong and are choosing evil without people being able to realize it:
33rd Degree Mason
After you learn what the Masons are doing and what they are responsible for and how evil these people truly are you'll understand why they have been kicked out of every country in Europe that they have ever lived in. And not just once or twice but many times in virtually every country in Europe.
This is why these people would come to this board and keep attacking me over and over again, not because of what they say they are here for because I'm crazy because if that were the case they wouldn't even bother coming to this board, who would want to pick on a crazy person?
The reason why they are here attacking me is for the simple fact that they don't want people to learn what it is I'm teaching not just about the entire futures markets being controlled by a computer program but also about the Freemason code that I broke which they do not want people to see.
And what people need to realize here is that it's just one person here one Freemason who is doing all of this which I am able to prove in the videos above because this Freemason isn't really very intelligent, all they are is an exceptionally good liar and well-versed in the ways of lying to people.
I will continue to teach people how to make money from this Freemason futures market conspiracy and further teach people about the Freemasons and how evil these people truly are by showing you all the things that they have done.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
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#410 General Comment
Mathematical Malarkey
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Agreed with Blahntahtotown; David should know this that there's a moderator here approving messages one by one, it literally says so after you hit CONTINUE TO POST, so when the moderator sees 5 new posts for this page, he skims it over each and hits ACCEPT.
Explaining:
Mail 1 11:15
Mail 2 11:17
Mail 3 11:19
So, considering this is what David passes off as proof of a conspiracy against him, his other revelations are quite questionable, his revelations about a computer running the world, his revelation about Hollywood hating God, and most importantly his revelation about there being a secret code to trade oil with 80% accuracy on a daily basis.
What's NOT questionable is the fact when you click YES or NO this was useful, its an instant Java or DHTML tally count.
And when David ignores this page for 3-4 days and there's no new votes cast, then he reappears and 90 negative votes are cast within minutes of his own post, I SMELL A RAT. And don't tell me you have some sort of power over 90 people to freely come and vote NO for every post someone that doesn't agree with you makes, especially in a time frame of 10-20 minutes. Just not buying it buddy, that's smoke, and where there's smoke there's fire.
I'm actually impressed by how you are able to do 90 votes in an hour or less on your own. I tried myself to "beat" this RipOffReport voting system and it's pretty good, you can use different browsers, but since I have only 1 IP address I can only vote for myself twice, once with Firefox and once with Internet Explorer. So my hats off to you David, 90 votes on your own shows talent... Too bad you apply that talent to progressing a scheme that's going no where brother.
Honestly, we shouldn't be contentious, I, unlike you say in your Christian rants, want to be friendly with people, want to work out my differences with those that disagree with me, but when you called me and everyone I work with a scumbag because Felix Peace Army was in hyperactive anti-scam mode mangled your post about the secret code on his own Scam Board, you lumped me in with the wrong crowd buster.
I just saw your video, don't tell me I'm making stuff up, anyone can go to Forex Peace Army and see that's what happened, I'm explaining that clear as day, and what you did was create a video calling Forex Peace Army a scam, you both started a war, so don't kill the messenger here...
And I disagree with Blahntahtotownon one thing, FOREX is not synonymous with SCAMMER, millions of people worldwide trade currencies for a living, its a real thing people go to school for, just not so much in the USA because our government likes to regulate ever little thing about our lives. I've been trading for nearly a decade, there's ups and downs, but anyone promising 90% accuracy in any field is a scammer, YES, I agree, but I wouldn't do that, in fact I am 17% accurate but my losses are minuscule compared to my gains so I am a profitable trader.
So my advice: Huge Gains, Small Losses, THE REAL SECRET TO TRADING, free of charge.

#409 General Comment
90 votes in 10 minutes! I Love it!
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Check out my screen shot.
Like clockwork, David ignored this page for 4 days straight, no new votes were cast for or against my, blah blah town or David's own posts for 4 days. Then all of a sudden David comes back and makes a comment and 90 negative votes on my post and blahblahtown's, and 90 positive for David posts appear in 10 minutes?
And he accuses US of using proxies and acting like the same person. You'd think after I called him out on using proxies to cast fake votes he wouldn't do it, but he really proved himself to be the scammer he is.
I'm my own person, first of all, and secondly, nothing in the world can convince me David can make a post ANYWHERE and get 90 people to come on this page and vote 90 times from the last time I checked my post.
IMPOSSIBLE.
SCAMMER.
PROXY MASTER.
FALSE PROPHET (and FALSE PROFIT)
_________________________________________
TO BLAHBLAHTOWN:
Yes I see he's married to someone back in 2001, perhaps that didn't last (I mean who could live with someone who thinks he's in the matrix for more than a month or two) or I am simply looking at the wrong David L. Kuvelas.
Or better yet, maybe this "David" on this board and owner of the website is using some poor shmuck's identity with or without his permission. He's got to be crazy to post his own picture, his own name, his own address for such an obvious scheme, but then again putting everything we've seen into context (i.e. he really is a lunatic), maybe his name really is what he says it is, he lives where he says he lives, that's his real phone number, and so on and so on. I think not because he would have had to plan that out years ago when he was making spam posts about Forex products which are still in the internet archive, I've seen those too, even a weight loss article, signed "DAVID KUVELAS" he sure has tried his hand at being an affiliate for a wide range of crap before realizing he should cut out the affiliate and sell his own crap. I know exactly what he went through from start to finish: "What can I sell people directly without being an affiliate making a measly 10% per sale from now on, that is the question, what will really make me a lot of money and make me sound so superior to all those that encounter me all at once ensuring once they fail at it, I can outwit them with my "superior" intellect? I know! a BLACK JACK system! but wait, there's like 1000's of blackjack system books and crap on the market already, and no one is buying mine, i've had it up for 3 years and hardly made any money... let me rethink this... what is there NONE of and what is out there that I know people are trying to make money in? THE MARKETS!!! Oh but wait, there's a ton of that crap too, let's get more specific, Forex? Okay, let's try that... ooops, wait, I just got my a*s handed to me, can't even fool myself into thinking I can sell a system how to trade Forex... what else is there that is sort of mystified still... I know OIL TRADING, yea, let me sell a system about OIL TRADING, if it works it works, if it doesn't work, its not my fault its the market and the low IQ client of mine that didn't get it right... but how can I ensure people will buy my system over others... oh yea, let's call it a "SECRET CODE" that I figured out some day like I am so special, like I saw a Magic Eye Poster and the grand solution for making daily profits just Popped out at me, and I will share only the signals from this code but not teach how to see the code directly to "ensure the evil men in the world don't catch on to someone getting the secret" yea they'll fall for that..."
That would take a truly demented person to plan that out years in advance, but honestly I think we're at the point where we can say ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE with this guy at the moment. And it's kind entertainment for me as well. Not just me, but all of us making a logical case why he's just "not right, not right about his Code, his business ethic, etc," and he retorts with "you're a mason, here's a mathematical equation to prove you're the same person and out to get me." And many people on many message boards at this point, it's pure entertainment! It's fun watching this guy melt down. But seriously, David, you're a psycho or just playing the fool for attention, and we're simply out to not let people get ripped off, sorry if that interferes with your livelihood but the means by which you have chosen to make money is the same means that FOREX PEACE ARMY founder FELIX chose to make money for the past 6 years, a man that you call the biggest scammer ever. You are running the same exact scam on people in a different market with different "window dressing."
Let's compare for a moment:
--Felix/Forex Peace Army sets up 10 websites charging $999 per month to gain access to ONE CHAT ROOM where a former "bank insider" sits there and waits to tell you signals to trade
--Dave Kuvelas is claiming he is setting up dozens of websites that lead to the same "secret code" that costs a $500 one time fee to gain access to videos that teach you a secret code to trade oil
Both claim no responsibility for your losses which are inevitable. Both are just some idiot sitting there watching price action on a chart do what it does and both have that idiot that just made an easy $500-$999 off one sucker say "buy here" or "sell here." Easy Money, Safe Money, No Overhead, Great Business scheme, and I stress the word SCHEME.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You are no different than Forex Peace Army, wake up and smell what you're shoveling DAVE, because no matter how many more websites you set up to teach the code it will revert back to the same old B.S. that I guarantee you will be made infamous before the year is out, you will not bring down any message boards, or blogs, or any freemasons, or super computers running the world, it will be you my friend that the world will be laughing at for all the crazy stuff you have said in these videos unless the CFTC takes it seriously and shuts you down for good. You are living proof some people literally lack that filter in their mind that says "if I say this people will think I'm nuts" or you obviously don't care what people think, but being a real business man in the real world selling real things to real people trying that are going to risk real money applying your secret code, who themselves are looking for a way to approach trading rationally, you've dug yourself into a hole my friend, because no rational person would give you a penny and those that do are in for some sorrow on your account. Like you said though $16,000 in sales over the last few months, wonderful for you, it just proves how gullible people are or conversely how desperate they are to gain an edge and how scammers like Felix Peace Army and yourself capitalize on that. Vulture Capitalism at its best, and coming from someone that dedicates an entire video to the fact "MONEY IS EVIL" you sure do love parting it from people and putting it into your paypal account don't you? Quite paradoxical. So save your mathematical equations for your blackjack website because in OIL TRADING price does whatever the <beep> it wants, you can stare at charts all day, you can stare at charts until you are old and grey, and no man, NO MAN will ever predict with high enough accuracy to make the kind of returns you are promising your victims over any given period of time.
I've said enough here. Stay tuned for the Craziest Man on Earth Compilation Video.

#408 Consumer Comment
Heh. Also.
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Speaking of mathematical possibilities: How is it that Rountree and I posted within two minutes of each other, when both of us wrote longish responses that would clearly take longer than that to compose?
If you check your emails, David you'll likely see that yours often show up within minutes of ours. That can only mean one thing: you and us are all the same person!

#407 Consumer Comment
Mathematically!
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
C'mon now, David. You've tried this before, but you must know that such email notifications generally go out in batches. Similarly, posts are delayed, and often published in batches. And people post soon after each other because they each get a notice that there's a new message. If we were all the same person, who was able to take on different voices, use different grammar, make different points, and otherwise appear to be different people, wouldn't we (I) try to space out the messages to make it seem more legit to you, if this were the case?
I know it makes you feel better to think there is only one person complaining about/making fun of you, but I'm afraid that's not the case. And jesus, we don't even agree on everything - Bill Rountree says that Forex site is just as big a scam as yours - but haven't you repeatedly said that all us "Masons" are in on the whole Forex thing? (I don't know how big a scam that Forex site is - I only know that when I see "Forex" on the Internet, I'm almost certainly dealing with either a scammer or a crank. Kinda like when I see one lonely man in a suburban Vegas apartment who says he has cracked the "code" of the oil markets.) And I think Jeffrey is a big chump who's simply angry that he was dumb enough to fall for your obviously crazy, fraudulent "system, and he needs to get over it. We are not the same people, sorry.
I know you're nuts, but you are able to put your pants on in the morning and work a computer and whatnot. So you should be able to be at least somewhat able to keep the basic details of your theories intact. Sometimes we're all different people, piling on. Other times, we're all the same person. Sometimes we're running the Forex message boards, sometimes we're ridiculing them. Sometimes, the world is secretly run by a conspiracy of Evil Genuises, other times, everybody but you is "stupid." Etc. None of it fits together. See?
And anyway, even if you were right, this isn't really "mathematical." The timestamps of emails don't amount to "math." You seem to have your own definitions for "mathematical" and "scientist," among other things.

#406 REBUTTAL Owner of company
33rd Degree Mason Ways
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
The following video will prove mathematically that Jeff, Bill Roundtree, and Blahblahtown are all the same exact person, who is here on this board using different IP addresses pretending to have conversations with each other and yet they are all the same exact person. I wanted to make this video up so the world can see the ways of a 33rd degree Mason, so you can see for yourself just how evil these people are, how they do nothing but lie. And if people understood the way these Masons truly are there wouldn't be any left on this planet they would be eliminated. But the problem is people don't understand the Freemasons, they can just lie to people and people don't know any better, they believe the lies. And that's because good people don't understand the ways of evil people. So here is my video I just did proving mathematically that Jeff, Bill Rountree, and Blahblahtown are the exact same person posting and pretending to have conversations, and keep in mind this is exactly what they do at all their trading forums, this is how they manipulate and fool people and scam people:
33rd Degree Mason Ways
Now you understand that there isn't a bunch of Freemasons here attacking me, it's just one Freemason pretending to be a bunch of different people, who obviously doesn't have the brainpower to cover his own tracks because he's too stupid to do so.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#405 Consumer Comment
well...
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I agree with most of what you say here, but for a couple of things. First, I don't think the nutty stuff is just an "act" -- I think he's really nuts. Check out his other YouTube channel, which has little or nothing to do with trading. Nobody goes on and on like that for hours at a stretch, with that level of crazy, without meaning it. If it's an act, he's more fully committed to it than anyone I've ever seen.
That said, I'm sure he uses his insanity, at least on a subconscious level, to rationalize his scams. His whole history is full of the lowest of lowbrow internet scumbucketry (including "article marketing" and selling blackjack "secrets," etc.) Except for being a complete nutjob, he's a typical, run-of-the-mill spammer and fraudster.
Also: what makes you think he's married? I have done a fair amount of poking around and found no evidence that he has any real-life relationships at all, much less a wife. What is your basis for saying he has one? He's the only person listed at his address, for instance.

#404 General Comment
David is seeking fame, this is an act I'm almost convinced, and it's working because he's profiting...
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
This is actually become comical to me for a few reasons. First of all, looking into David a little more, I see that this is probably all just an act to try and recruit people who are vulnerable to believe all the things he is claiming about the world, the government, the markets, life, etc, and these people are the most likely to fall for it and drop $500, not many, but enough to keep David sheltered and his belly full (he and his family - yes he's married believe it or not which makes me think yea this is all an act because what woman would put up with this crap for more than a week?). And when they don't earn their $500 back, like countless other scammers before David, the scammer will say this or that or this or that went wrong, its not HIS fault, it's YOUR fault, you're the low IQ, low brow dummy that couldn't get "the secret code" to work for you. More comically, if you don't buy into this outright and doubt him you're a "freemason" out to get him and control those who might buy the secret code.
But let's get to facts (and save the hyperbole for his next fiery retort).
First of all, David putting out press releases (to god knows what BS blog or fictional news place he probably creates himself) trying to get people to think Forex Peace Army is a scam is a total joke. Everyone in the industry knows that place is a scam and any serious traders stay away from it.
The owner "Felix" was like 18 years old in 2006, had no training in the trading, started trading that same year, and by 2007 owned a forum with 20,000 members and was holding "how to trade seminars" on boats for $1000 a pop, tried to sell a DVD of it for $500, it had nothing to do with how to trade but how to manage your money in real life or whatever, "positive thinking" stuff like that, sound familiar? He even had a "remote viewing" expert (aka someone that sees the future in his mind) have a 30 minute speech on this seminar and DVD allegedly how to remote view what big banks are about to do (so trade what they trade). So, David calling Forex Peace Army AKA Secret Forex Society a "scam" is like someone going on the internet and saying Hitler hated Jews, or invading Iraq was because of Oil... No Sh*t Sherlock!
Don't believe me, everyone knows it ---> GOOGLE: "Forex Peace Army aka Secret Forex Society Using Fake Address in NYC"
But honestly this all reminds me of........ Bingo, DAVID himself, the same year David begins trading he starts a site on how to trade, offering free videos with promises of riches to get you interested, then acts like he's an expert at giving out signals without having (and in his case proudly claiming no need for) a single day's worth of of training for himself in this field, then within a year of beginning to trade selling seminars and videos, attacking those that doubt him, etc. And just like Felix and his $999 per month signal chat room, there's no proof that Felix and David even trade real money off the signals they're charging their clients/members for. If I didn't know any better, David and Felix Peace Army are one in the same, at the very least they should join forces, birds of a feather scam people together better. Where it went wrong was Felix, in his attempt to scam people, set up a scam section on his own forum to call everything that he wasn't an affiliate for a scam. He even emailed Forex Brokers to extort them into giving him IB deals lest they be called "scam brokers" on his forum. That's what caused this whole mess, Felix the biggest forex scammer in history in his hyperactive attempt to prove he's not a scammer came across David making a post on Forex Peace Army trying to advertise his own scam and BANG, THERE BEGAN THE FIREWORKS, THE ALL FOREX TRADERS ARE SCUM VIDEO, and the war on Forex David has been waging ever since.
If people actually met and fought over this, I think it would make a great movie, get Hollywood on standby. I mean this is really really sleazy, and back to David, it all blew up when this old idiom was proven false: never the twain shall meet. Well they met alright, the "Twains" being the scammers, and Forex Peace Army being the place they met.
Personally I think Forex Peace Army is the worst of the worst and David is small time, but David is actually trying to ascend to Felix's level except in Oil Trading, not Forex Trading. Don't believe me? Felix and his fellow scammers had 10+ websites (all false fronts) charging $999 per month to gain access to the same "chat room" with "trading signal experts" that basically did exactly what David did, watch charts all day and say to the members from time to time "buy here" or "sell there." Why the need to have 10 different fronts to sell the same membership to the same signal chat room?
But again, who is this starting to sound like? David: "I'm starting 10+ websites to teach the code to others" ... Why do you need 10 different websites selling the same secret code? Could it be that casting 10 different looking nets into the ocean will catch more diverse fish than just casting one net that has been ripped to shreds ironically by a side called "RIP" off report.com?
We all see through it, Dave, and if that makes me a freemason to you, I guess I'm a freemason, but if I show up at the local Lodge they won't let me in because I'm not a member.
But it's upsetting because NOT ALL FOREX BB'S and BLOGS are out to rip people off, if they were they wouldn't exist because no one would visit them and they wouldn't afford to be in operation, and in my case, not all Forex traders are scammers, scumbags, and doomed to fail. I've been trading for 9 years without a hickup and saw many people struggling and even looked into training people myself but I didn't want to take the step David by law is required to take, i.e., take NFA/CFTC exams to give out advice.
But all of this aside, I hope anyone that seriously considers buying into this "Secret Code" remembers what we industry insiders (aka freemasons to David) have joked about for over a decade: The safest money in trading Forex/Stocks/Commodities is not in trading them, not even inside info, rather, hocking all the junk that makes people think they have a better chance at trading instead of getting a proper education in trading. David knows this, David admits "he traded Forex and got wiped out" so he realized the safe money is in "teaching" people how to trade, and this is the way he goes about it. Watching this unfold on this RipOffReport Page is pretty insane to the casual viewer but it's working, he's making money so he says, so that's that, the old adage a sucker is born every minute is proven true by "The Secret Code" and "The Oil Trading Academy"
Part Two
Another thing I noticed about this Rip Off Report page is that if you make a comment AGAINST David, people come along and click NO (this was not helpful) 50+ times. If you say something in favor of him, people click YES (this was helpful) 50+ times.
When was the last time David paid attention to this page and made one of his 30 page long rants? Saturday December 8. Since then, on the latest posts AGAINST David there has been like 4 votes total on it. When David returns, expect that number to skyrocket to 50 negatives on the "blah blah town" guy's post above me, and my own comment here. You're telling me he's got 50 to 100 people that are so vested in this code that they religiously come here and defend it by clicking YES and NO every single day? Could be, but if you've visited this page with any regularity, it just seems like those Yes and No's appear right after he makes a comment himself. He's using proxies to log into Rip Off Report, make fake votes, and probably fake comments too. I mean, how many different people on this page talk like "we're in the matrix" "follow david or else you're stuck in the matrix" "okay don't believe David, stay in the Matrix" ... I mean honestly, who have you met in real life that speaks like that? Then you read this page, and like 12 different people talk the same way... So it goes back to either one of my points that
A) he zeroes in on people that are easily brainwashed into believe his B.S. or
B) he is making these comments himself:
THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN, AND BOTH POINTS ARE NOT FAVORABLE TO HIS STRUGGLE.
Honestly David, you don't have an enemy in me, or anyone that hasn't been ripped off by you yet (and never will be because we see through this enough not to lose money to you), but it's not cool that you make rants calling people you don't know scum or freemasons or whatever, and like I said, this really just is beginning to seem like an act to draw attention to yourself, and it's working but it will backfire, allow me to explain. So instead of putting out press reports, knowing the CFTC has been turned on to your operation, and you admitting on this page yourself that you've made $16,000 in sales, even with my low IQ brain I'm doing math that equals about 32 whopping sales Total/32 clients buying your videos, now, that's a two pronged fault AGAINST you in that 32 people falling for this out of tens of 1000's of potential victims is pathetic, but ironically 32 is WELL over the 15 client maximum you are allowed by the CFTC to SELL TRADING ADVICE TO WITHOUT REGISTERING WITH THE GOVERNMENT to do so, Individualized or Not Individualized, we'll see if they do anything, but that makes you look weak twice. But back to my main point, I downloaded all your videos before you are put back on your anti-psychotic meds and realize how crazy you sound (if this is not an act after all) and will put together a compilation of all your rants and what not and re-upload it and title this video "THE CRAZIEST MAN ON EARTH" and instead of your master plan to sell a secret Bullshit code to people and make a fortune, you're going to end up on TOSH.0 or something similar, this thing will go viral, mark my words, and you will get that fame you desire so much. So maybe those that you hate will be the ones that make you a fortune after all, keep up the charade brother, we're working on making the video as we speak.

#403 Consumer Comment
Sorry...
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 08, 2012
I'm not Jeffrey. For one thing, I would never buy something from somebody on the Internet who promised he had a "system" that could make me rich in commodities trading. I wouldn't even trade commodities, or anything else. Because you really have to know what you're doing to do that stuff. But also: you can't tell the difference between Jeffrey and I just from our posts? Really? Yeesh.
Nor am I a Mason -- because I'm not some boring suburban dad or businessman who joins clubs. If I could join the Raccoons, the one Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton belonged to, I might do that. Or the Friars because I like all those old Jewish comics. But otherwise, I'm just not much of a joiner, I'm afraid. I'm not a Rotarian either. Are they hatching an evil plot to take over the world, too? Funny how they do it during rubber-chicken banquets in suburban Holiday Inns.
I forgot to mention the very best part of all the bizzaro videos David has posted: the one where he's talking about some kind of Evil, Satanic Symbol from the media, and as he's talking, who appears on the screen but .... The Great Gazoo! The little Martian from the Flintstones - and there's David, talking about how the makers of the Flintstones were using the Great Gazoo to send messages to their minions (or whatever the hell.)
It's just great, great stuff.

#402 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff And All Masons Are Going To Hell
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 08, 2012
Hello Jeffry,
You say the blah blah said it best, what you didn't mention is that you are blah blah and all the other posters here as well, that's what you forgot to mention :-)
As before Freemason I'll take your post one by one:
"I have said it before. Obviously David is mentally ill. That is not difficult to figure out just watching is rantings and
ravings and namecalling etc. Easy enough to see. Normally I would just feel sorry for him and leave him alone BUT, the fact is, he is a real As-hole. That is what I have a problem with. He not only rips people off, he KNOWS IT and RELISHES it and I can't stand that. That is my problem with David."
No Jeffry obviously you are mentally ill, you have come onto this board for over a year now to slander and lie about me, this makes you a sick perverted individual beyond belief, by far the sickest and most perverted individual I have ever witnessed before in my life by a trillion times hands down. You say I rip people off? Do you have any proof of that? I have mathematical proof that I do not rip people off:
Mathematical Proof That Oil Trading Academy Is the Real Deal
"Not only are my Mason's brotherhood offended by this human trash bin, but my Kiwanis group is too and the Knights of Columbus brotherhood is just getting involved as well. Before long, I will have 1000 people signed up to to against David which I think is enough because we will have 1000 brains against is... I maybe will get one more just to make sure."
Lol, your Mason brotherhood? You mean a bunch of walking flaming faggots that you are? Lol, oh no, I'm going to have a bunch of flaming faggots after me, oh no, what shall I do? If you guys are so tough, why don't you come out to Vegas to meet with me? I don't understand why you are such a sissy? And by the way, 1000 Masons wouldn't even have a remote fraction of a chance against me, you cannot begin to imagine how stupid all of you are to me, it's beyond your pea brains capability to comprehend.
"Some days when David is wearing his superman PJs his confidence is particularly high and I don't want to risk being undermanned to his superior intellect."
Superman PJ's? I think you must have yourself confused with me.....
"Hey David... You ever think about calling yourself SUPERCON!!! I bet you would STILL get people buying your crap even if you admitted outright you are conning them. There are A LOT of stupid people in the world as you know David... Even I fell for your stuff over 2 years ago when you first came out with it but that was before all this stuff was all over the internet about you being a whackjob con artist that you are.
Thank goodness for good sites like FPA, FF, Big Mike, and this one to do research on your silly self. If people see all this and STILL buy, they deserve to be conned!"
You have never purchased my videos Jeffry, again you lie through your teeth, and if you had purchased them you would be like all my other clients and you would thank me. And all those sites you mention are being run by Freemasons who con and lie and rip people on purpose because that's what you enjoy doing to people, for you hate all people while you pretend not to. And now I have Ripp Off Reports on those sites which show up on the first page and I have videos that show up on the first page of those sites and that's just the beginning, now comes the rest of your scam message boards and here comes the Forex market itself, you'll find my pages on the first page of all the terms relating to the Forex market in one month, watch and see dumb dumb.
It is you Jeffry and all your scam trading forums that are going down, including the entire Forex industry, nobody will be trading the Forex market very soon all because of me.
And let this be a statement for all you Freemasons, I have declared war against you, do whatever it is you feel necessary to do, call the police, call your Congressman, call the FBI, call your mother if you want to, but know this, I have declared war with you and I'm coming after all of you with everything I got, and in two months I'll have 100 people working for me and everywhere all over the entire Internet we are going to come after you and shut down your Forex scams and your forum scams and at the same time teach people about you and your treachery upon mankind. And people all over the world will wake up to you and then they will know who you are, and you won't have the nerve to admit you're a Freemason to anybody, you'll have to go back into hiding for fear of the public.
And it will be I, David Kuvelas who will be responsible for making this happen on a global scale.....
And you know what the funny part is Jeffry? How a low IQ freak like you thought you could beat me, ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I laugh in your face Jeffry, you are going straight to Hell, and when you are there I will take great pleasure in that and hope that God isn't angry with me for taking pleasure like that in your suffering, but you deserve it Jeffry, you are pure evil, and it's the biggest joke on this planet for somebody like me to have you lie about me constantly every day all over the entire Internet, when you are in H**l screaming in pain and agony I will be laughing inside and very HAPPY that you are there and that my revenge upon you will be complete.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#401 Consumer Comment
blahntahtotown said it best...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 08, 2012
I have said it before. Obviously David is mentally ill. That is not difficult to figure out just watching is rantings and ravings and namecalling etc. Easy enough to see. Normally I would just feel sorry for him and leave him alone BUT, the fact is, he is a real As-hole. That is what I have a problem with. He not only rips people off, he KNOWS IT and RELISHES it and I can't stand that. That is my problem with David.
Not only are my Mason's brotherhood offended by this human trash bin, but my Kiwanis group is too and the Knights of Columbus brotherhood is just getting involved as well. Before long, I will have 1000 people signed up to to against David which I think is enough because we will have 1000 brains against is... I maybe will get one more just to make sure.
Some days when David is wearing his superman PJs his confidence is particularly high and I don't want to risk being undermanned to his superior intellect.
Hey David... You ever think about calling yourself SUPERCON!!! I bet you would STILL get people buying your crap even if you admitted outright you are conning them. There are A LOT of stupid people in the world as you know David... Even I fell for your stuff over 2 years ago when you first came out with it but that was before all this stuff was all over the internet about you being a whackjob con artist that you are. Thank goodness for good sites like FPA, FF, Big Mike, and this one to do research on your silly self. If people see all this and STILL buy, they deserve to be conned!

#400 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To blah blah
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
I'll take your backwards Mason post one by one Jeffry, (yes I know it's you dumb dumb)
"100 YT subscribers in a month isn't particularly
impressive. I would assume that most of them are watching for the entertainment
value - you've really been melting down lately, it looks like. And you have
videos talking about how "Mork and Mindy" and "Close
Encounters" are filled with Satanic symbols and so forth. On one level,
this is sad and pathetic. But on another, it's hilariously entertaining. Sorry
to tell you, but you've become a Freak Show. This is nutty, nutty stuff. In
general, it's very common -- almost cliched nutbag stuff. (The Masons? You
couldn't come with anything more original than that?) But in the details --
Mork, the Giant World-Controlling Computer, etc.,) -- it's really funny."
100 subscribers isn't impressive? Obviously you are stupid once again. No they are writing me emails saying how much they appreciate me exposing the Masons, and they give my video likes and they respond to my videos thanking me, all of which can easily be seen at my YouTube channel, which shows what you just said to be a lie. No what's sad and pathetic is you, why would you waste your time here posting? Don't you have a life? Or would you rather just keep posting here for the entertainment value as you suggest? Don't you see how this makes you the one who is sad and pathetic? I'm here defending myself, you are here attacking me, which one of us do you suppose then is "sad and pathetic"? I'll let the reader decide that. I have spoken the truth about the Masons and have broken your entire code for the world to see and decide for themselves, if it weren't real you wouldn't be here attacking me, a kindergarten student could figure that out.
"As for responses - I responded once on one of
your more lunatic videos. You disallowed the comment. And you have videos where
you depict yourself going through all the negative responses that you never
allow on your channel, so positive responses don't mean much. And anyway,
they're either people messing with you or they're fellow crazies. I assume
you're as overwhelmed there as you are here by people complaining about you and
making fun of you. The difference is, you can't disallow or delete posts here.
And it seems like, of all the people here and on YouTube, you're the one with
the most free time -- several long, angry, insane screeds every day, hours-long
videos where you're talking about massive conspiracies run by The Lions Club,
er, I mean, the Kiwanis. Wait, the Knights of Columbus? The Friars? Oh, right.
The Masons."
Yes of course I'm going to disallow your crazy comments, you are a freak, if you don't like my videos why bother to watch them? Why bother to respond to them at all? Because you hate them that's why, you are the one who is sad and pathetic beyond belief, and you prove that by your actions. Again you lie, I never talk about the Lions Club or the Kiwanis or the Knights of Columbus, you are simply lying through your teeth as you always do.
"Speaking of which - why do you keep threatening
to call the FBI and complaining that the Forex markets are
"unregulated," when at other times you say the FBI and other
government agencies are all full of "Masons?" Which is it? They're
either The Enemy or not, but you seem to not be clear on that. Right here in
this thread, you said you complained to them, then said they're all Masons. You
need to get your insane theories straight."
I have not threatened to call the FBI, I have already filed a complaint with the FBI for your slander against me of which the video can be seen here:
David Files FBI Complaint Against The Slanders Here On This Board
"Also, this "fa*ot" and
"sissy" stuff is really awful. Add that to your antisemitism and we
see just what kind of person you are, crazy or not: a terrible person. An
angry, self-hating, lonely nutcase. You're funny, but you're also a jerk."
No what's awful is that you would come onto this board and keep slandering me and lying about me over and over again, showing by default your agenda here against me, for no sane human being would do this to another human being, but you cannot afford people to learn about your Masonic Code I broke, you cannot afford people to learn about the Futures markets being controlled by a computer program and that it's the Mason's who have done this treachery upon the world. You cannot afford people to learn about the Forex market and how it's a scam market, so you come onto this board and viciously attack me over and over again to try and discredit me.
And with my superior intellect to yours I'm able to show everyone who and what you are and win them to my side, and they open up their eyes and see you for what you truly are, which is evil human beings.
And I'm making more sales and helping more people to come out of your Matrix than ever before, and you are freaking out about it posting more and more posts here to this board.
I laugh at all of you and in a way pity you for your own stupidity, because it's going to get far worse for you in the coming months....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#399 Consumer Comment
well....
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
100 YT subscribers in a month isn't particularly impressive. I would assume that most of them are watching for the entertainment value - you've really been melting down lately, it looks like. And you have videos talking about how "Mork and Mindy" and "Close Encounters" are filled with Satanic symbols and so forth. On one level, this is sad and pathetic. But on another, it's hilariously entertaining. Sorry to tell you, but you've become a Freak Show. This is nutty, nutty stuff. In general, it's very common -- almost cliched nutbag stuff. (The Masons? You couldn't come with anything more original than that?) But in the details -- Mork, the Giant World-Controlling Computer, etc.,) -- it's really funny.
As for responses - I responded once on one of your more lunatic videos. You disallowed the comment. And you have videos where you depict yourself going through all the negative responses that you never allow on your channel, so positive responses don't mean much. And anyway, they're either people messing with you or they're fellow crazies. I assume you're as overwhelmed there as you are here by people complaining about you and making fun of you. The difference is, you can't disallow or delete posts here. And it seems like, of all the people here and on YouTube, you're the one with the most free time -- several long, angry, insane screeds every day, hours-long videos where you're talking about massive conspiracies run by The Lions Club, er, I mean, the Kiwanis. Wait, the Knights of Columbus? The Friars? Oh, right. The Masons.
Speaking of which - why do you keep threatening to call the FBI and complaining that the Forex markets are "unregulated," when at other times you say the FBI and other government agencies are all full of "Masons?" Which is it? They're either The Enemy or not, but you seem to not be clear on that. Right here in this thread, you said you complained to them, then said they're all Masons. You need to get your insane theories straight.
Also, this "fa*ot" and "sissy" stuff is really awful. Add that to your antisemitism and we see just what kind of person you are, crazy or not: a terrible person. An angry, self-hating, lonely nutcase. You're funny, but you're also a jerk.

#398 REBUTTAL Owner of company
It's Funny Masons
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
The more you attack me here on this board the more credibility you give to me, people understand that nobody attacks another person like this unless they have something of serious value, otherwise nobody on this planet would waste their time attacking another person, normal people have better things to do, so everyone can see through you now Mason.
By the way, have you checked my YouTube channel? I've gotten almost 100 subscribers in less than one month....
If you saw my sales you would flip out that's for sure.....
Have you seen all the responses to my videos? Everyone agrees with me.....
All you're doing is bringing more and more attention to yourselves and giving me more and more credibility by default.....
Like I keep trying to tell you guys, you are dumber than a box of rocks....
And you are sissies beyond comparison, you slander me over and over again but won't reveal yourself because you know what's going to happen to you if you do.
While I have a phone number and a face and my real name all used on purpose from the very beginning because I have nothing to hide and speak the truth, and have Freemasons constantly slandering me all over the entire Internet, to which I have filed an FBI complaint for.
To which the Mason's are not afraid whatsoever because the Mason's tell the FBI what to do and when to do it and how high to jump.
But you sissy punks don't tell me what to do, because I cannot be bought....
Your posts here show yourselves for what you truly are and what your agenda here is, which is to take the truth away from people just as you have done with everything else in this life.
That's what you always do, destroy everything good and promote everything evil....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#397 Consumer Comment
optics
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
Yeah, I'm not *totally* sure I'm responsible for Jerry Springer getting a show, but I'll take your word for it. Sorry about that. I'm not taking the blame for Charlie Sheen, though - no way.
I'm also not sure how David knows my level of intelligence just from what I've said here. But I do know that, whether he thinks it's important or not, people will judge him not only on his obvious insanity and the clearly fraudulent nature of the ridiculous garbage he's peddling, but also on whether he knows the basic rules of English. Optics. The guy's selling stuff -- sure, it's bullsh*t stuff, but he's still trying to sell it. So, optics are important.
When you're selling something that's supposedly based on a genius discovery, you want people to think you're smart. He keeps saying how smart he is, but I've seen no evidence of it whatsoever. He hasn't accomplished anything. He has earned no degrees that I know of. (Though he's a "scientist.") He sells shady nonsense on the Internet. This is not the realm of geniuses, and you aren't a genius just by saying "I'm a genius" over and over, in increasingly agitated and enraged tones.
And since he's not a genius, I would advise that he try to make up for it at least a little by adhering to the most basic rules of English. He doesn't. I'm not talking about occasional typos - I'm talking about not knowing that "Mason's" means "belongs to a Mason" and is not the plural of "Mason." Or, not knowing the difference between an adjective and an adverb.
Similarly, in mathematics, 2+2=4. If you used a "/" instead of a "+", the meaning would be very different (1), and people would become confused.
At first, I was ready to leave this guy alone, since he's obviously suffering from delusional psychosis. But even a deluded psychotic (at least one who's with-it enough to dress himself and use a computer, etc.) has the ability to refrain from being a d*ck -- and he appears to be a huge d*ck.

#396 Consumer Comment
Press releases
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
Where are these press releases? On Dec 2, David said he was releasing them. I'm looking forward to David's attempt at bringing down the Masons, forex market, etc. But is this attempt ever going to happen? No, but the entertainment will always be good.
L^33

#395 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Freemason Forex Market Conspiracy
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
The Freemasons are running a conspiracy within the Forex
market. These Freemasons not only control the Forex market itself but they also
control most all of the trading forums as well, tricking people and conning
people and fooling people into trading the Forex market for the purpose that
they will lose their money once the try.
This is a conspiracy being run by the Freemasons within the Forex market, but
also at their trading forums as well.
When you try to trade the Forex market what's going to happen is once they
learn that you can beat them on a consistent basis the computer will target you
and come to get your stops fuss not allowing you to make money long-term.
Nobody in the world can make money trading the Forex market long-term, at first
you may be able to but after a month to three months the computer will learn
that you can beat it and then it will target you and come to get your stops.
The Forex market is the only market in the world that is unregulated, no other
market in the world is unregulated except for the Forex market. On top of this
if you put $30,000 into a Forex broker they will give you $3000 on top of it,
the Forex market is the only market in the world that does that.
If you put your money into a broker to trade stocks a won't give you any money,
if you put your money into a futures broker to trade the futures they won't
give you any money, it's only when you put money into a Forex account do they
give you money.
The reason why they give you money is not because they are good kindhearted
people that love giving their money away, it's because they know they are going
to make that money back from you because the whole entire Forex market is a
scam designed to take people's money from them.
Forex factory is being run by the Freemasons, they own the message board Forex
factory and they are Conning and fooling people to get interested in trading
the Forex market so they will click on the banners on the website and sign up
to a Forex broker and when they do Forex factory gets paid $250 for every sign
up.
This is a direct conspiracy by Forex factory and by the Freemasons to get
people involved with trading the Forex market when they know that they are
going to lose their money. And all the Forex brokers are all involved with it
and all owned by Freemasons.
You can learn more about this conspiracy and how I discovered it by watching
the following video:
Freemason
Forex Market Conspiracy
Happy Trading,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#394 Consumer Comment
Come one come all...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
Come watch David the SELF PROMOTING SELF proclaiming scientist and philosopher who talks to God and is a 1000 times smarter than any mere mortal (particularly Masons) trade his 90% accurate system.
HE WANTS YOUR MONEY SO WATCH THIS AND GIVE HIM YOUR MONEY!!! SPAMMERS can't live on REAL SPAM ALONE!! Buy his CRAP would ya!!!
Davids 90% success system hard at work. So easy to do and performs JUST like he says it does! See for yourself FAIL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Don't pay attention to the fact he always fails at it because it in live demos and chat rooms because it DOES works with 90% accuracy or better because he SAYS it does and that should be enough for you! After all, he has enough NON LIVE after the fact videos proving it so BUY BUY BUY everyone! Ignore the truth... It won't set you free! That is a bunch of crap right David??
BUY DAVID'S CRAP EVERYONE... COME ONE COME ALL make MILLIONS for only small HUNDREDS of investment! THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME!!!

#393 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Perfect Example Of A Boxed In Individual
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 07, 2012
You are a perfect example of why my intellect far exceeds yours. Try to understand something, to me your world is a world of stupidity beyond measure, beyond my own ability to even comprehend. You talk about how words are used improperly, not realizing your own stupidity. For instance, over in England it's proper to eat a certain way, using certain utensils, and if you don't do that you're not doing it right. Are they just stupid? Or are they just boxed into stupidity without realizing it?
Obviously you are boxed into stupidity without realizing it. Words are simple basic mathematical representations of either objects or concepts, you can associate any word with any number of these things however the object or concept does not change, it is what it is, and you can choose to call it whatever you want to call it for it doesn't matter.
Getting caught up into the notion that words should all be used properly without any mistakes in using them is like a person getting caught up into certain utensils should be used at certain times, it's trivial beyond compare.
What matters is truth, knowledge, understanding, and concepts......
Of which you have absolutely none. You have no truth within you, you have no real knowledge unless you call evil knowledge, you have no real understanding unless you think Satan is an understanding person, and you have no real concepts unless you think evil is a good concept, and trying your best to drag everyone down into Hell where you're going is a good concept.
You Freemasons have perverted everything in this world and turned it into a freak show of Jerry Springer, Howard Stern, Hugh Heffner, Jersey Shore, you have turned the women against the men, you have promoted your globalism, you have made people become serfs without realizing it or understanding it, you have made people become slaves without their being able to understand it.
And then you pervert them into dumb and dumber, into beevis and butthead, into ren and stimpy, into playing video games and having fun by killing and shooting and raping and stealing and gang banging all right in front of everyone's eyes without them being able to realize what you're doing to them.
You are a satanic people, turned over to Satan who is now your father, whom you serve with every ounce of your strength. All the while you call people who say that crazy, hiding yourself in the process.
But if you think your level of intellect compares to mine I'll give you the chance to pick your best subject and we'll debate it, and I'll show you how much you don't know.
You know Freemason there is no time in history that you have not been exposed and people have not awaken to you, people are going to wake up again and realize the enemy is within. And they will overcome you and win, by overcoming you and not worshiping your god.
And my challenge goes to any and all Freemason's anywhere on planet earth, pick your best subject and come on here to debate with me, and I will show all of you I know a thousand times more than you could begin to imagine or comprehend.
But if you're going to come on here and debate with me let's stop with the f****t nonsense of talking about romper room subjects like you didn't spell mind-boggling correctly or didn't use it properly. If that is your level of consciousness and intellect then please go back and watch some Mr. Rogers or Pee Wee Herman because that is more your speed.
You know what's funny about you guys though? It's how you are all sissies, I mean seriously, if any of you were real men in anyway shape or form you would come out here to Vegas and meet with me in person, but because you are sissies beyond compare you won't do that and will just continue to post and slander me with lies, knowing in your hearts that I'm far more intelligent than all of you put together and that I've discovered your Masonic Code and broken your entire Futures markets scam, and you are pissed off at that, and so because of this you continue to slander me.
But you won't do anything else? I cannot imagine what kind of sissies you must all be in real life.
Well sissy boys, not only can I out debate you here on this board, and not only could I beat all of you up at the same exact time in person, but now I'm going to attack you full force with 50 websites and expose you to the whole entire world in every language there is......
And what will you sissy punks do about it? Keep crying your eyes out here on this board? Would you little sissies like a tissue to wipe your eyes with? Or a Kleenex to blow your nose with? Is David picking on you little sissy punks?
I laugh at all you guys, at least people can see now what evil is truly like, and I'm getting emails every day regarding this board, people can see through you now, no longer are they persuaded by your ridiculous lies anymore, you guys have run into the wrong guy that's for sure.
And just imagine if we were all in person how much more you would realize that.....
But you now realize it now right here on this board, and you're going to realize it all over the entire Internet now, and the truly funny and hilarious thing about all of it is how you low IQ rejects cannot do anything about it, ROTFLOL........
Losers.....
Freemasons are first class walking losers of the highest possible order, and they have exceedingly low IQ levels.
And to think all this time I thought you 33rd degree Masons were smarter than this? Maybe you guys are just really dumb? Do you have any other 33rd degree Masons any smarter that might be able to debate with me about subjects of importance? I didn't realize you guys were so dumb, but again I suspect you guys are just reject Masons subjected to this dirty work of having to slander people online, you poor guys....
It's funny though, here you guys want so bad to stop me and yet not only can you not stop me but now you've made me morph into something much larger, much more threatening to you, where I'm going to teach tens of thousands of people about the code and about you Freemason freaks.
So what you've done here obviously has backfired, again showing your extreme stupidity beyond measure, and that's your whole problem is that you don't realize how stupid you truly are, it's something beyond your comprehension.
And still I keep telling you over and over your mistake and you don't understand, ROTFLOL......
You are dumber than words can describe, morons beyond measure.....
Oh well, you cannot reason with evil, evil doesn't understand anything other than the evil that it does, nothing more, this is why these people are morons beyond measure.....
If any of you low IQ rejects would like to debate me just tell me your best subject and I'll be happy to show you that you don't know anything whatsoever about it....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#392 Consumer Comment
IQ
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 06, 2012
Just a thought, David: If you're going to continue to talk about how super-intelligent you are and how incredibly stupid other people are (even though they are somehow also evil geniuses who secretly control the world), you should probably get better acquainted with some basic rules of English. Like, you don't need an apostrophe in a plural ("Mason's," etc.) Also, most adverbs have "-ly" suffixes. So, to use one of your favorite phrases when you're screaming in your paranoia videos: not "mind-boggling stupid" or "mind-boggling evil," but rather "mind-bogglingLY" stupid and evil.
Those are just a couple of your regulars. There are more. I noticed that these kinds of errors seem to increase when you're talking about how everybody but you is an idiot.

#391 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mason's Have Low IQ's
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 06, 2012
Hey Jeff, I sure hope you're getting your full jollies slandering me here almost everyday for over a year now. But just in case you don't have the brainpower to understand I'll tell you one more time. Each day that goes by I have yet another website having been built, and having a team of people working for me to promote each website. And each one of these websites will not only teach the "code" but will also teach about Freemason's as well, and the Freemason Code I broke.
So you can slander me over and over again until your little Mason face is blue, but it don't mean anything whatsoever, because as many people as Oil Trading Academy reached my other websites will reach 10,000 times more people, and there is nothing that a low IQ reject of a human being like you can do about it. Why? Because you are a reject, a mind boggling idiot of a human being, pure evil by your very nature, and you couldn't hurt me if your life depended upon it.
But all of your trading forums and message boards are all going down, for all my websites will teach about your scams that you are pulling everywhere all over the entire Internet.
And can you find my websites? No you cannot, why? Because again, you are a low IQ reject of a human being that's why, you don't have the brainpower to find them.
And you know what's funny Jeffry, when I don't have you calling me a scam on my new websites people buy from me much more so than at Oil Trading Academy, proving that through your slander against me you have in fact done much damage to Oil Trading Academy, as has been your whole purpose.
That's why in two months time I'll have 50 websites running and teaching the code and about the evil Freemasons, to wake people up to you and your treachery upon mankind.
And while I do better in business than I have ever done with all the work I'm doing, all you do is seal your fate more and more for the place you are destined to go, a place where you will gnaw and gnash your teeth in agony, where you no longer can lie through your teeth and pretend to be all these different people and posters and slander me with every lie you can think of. Never again will you be able to do that to people Jeffry, God will put you where you belong, and the only place suitable for you, for there is no place in society for a freak like you, none whatsoever, all you do is bring misery and destruction and then lie through your teeth and cause nothing but chaos and the downfall of the honest and the good while you being evil fool everyone over to your side through your relentless lies.
And while I prosper more and more being blessed by God, you fall deeper and deeper into your own misery and evil and rebellion against God.
You must hate me more than I could begin to fathom, and I don't blame you for that, if I were you I would hate me too I suppose.
Our destinies are completely different......
So now let me part with just this simple little parting:
This is a very simple case Jeffry of mind over matter, I no longer mind because you no longer matter.....
Now please, don't go away mad,......................just go away.......
Or if you prefer, keep slandering me, I mean it's only been over a year now, maybe you could do this for the rest of your life until Judgment Day?
As for me, I'm busy working on and promoting my other websites now to teach the code and teach about the evil Freemasons.......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#390 Consumer Comment
Another thing David doesn't do...
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 06, 2012
I don't know whether or not David trades.
But I know another thing he doesn't do. He doesn't obsessively stalk people on the internet.
I also know that I've used David's system, and it's worked for me.

#389 Consumer Comment
Refresh...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 06, 2012
Forex Peace Armys tribute to David:
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/spammers-hall-shame/11235-well-let-me-spam-you-secret-how-paying-me-money-will-make-me-money.html
Davids CALM and SANE reaction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pAvHSs1AS8
Davids 90% success system hard at work. So easy to do and performs JUST like he says it does! See for yourself FAIL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Doubt that David has been nothing but an internet SPAMMER FOR YEARS?? That is all he is and ALL he will EVER BE folks
View his comments in the this thread:
http://www.hitorstand.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-589.html
Further you will also see that if you pay for a subscription you can see that David Kuvelas has registered over 27 domains! what type of individual needs 27 domains??? I know, an internet marketer. He doesn't make money because his system works, he simply makes money because he markets all over the fricken world and takes advantage of a lot of people.
http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?all[]=David+Kuvelas&none[]=
And if you don't believe David is an internet marketer, view this link- apparently he is well versed in gaining traffic from popular searches which is why he can be found peddling so many different products:
http://superaff.com/archives/2005/11/23/moving-away-from-search-engine-traffic-and-toward-independence/
Here David is an expert on Satellite TV :
http://www.articleexposure.net/article91757.html
Here David was the author of yet another trading site:
http://www.articleexposure.net/article186187.html
Here you can see he is a debt specialist: http://www.articleexposure.net/article180569.html
Another site from David: http://www.pageinsider.com/forex-trading-courses.com
David has tried many times to have a live trading room and ALWAYS FAILS! END OF STORY
David LOVES to brag about how many people he rips off selling his crap but he NEVER discusses making money trading because HE DOESNT TRADE!

#388 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Oil Trading Academy Reviews
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
I'm a customer of Davids
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
I've also been smeared on this web site, so when I saw that David had been by a person who "smelled a rat" whatever that means, I had to speak up in his defense.
I spent money with David, around $750.00 so I know what he delivers, unlike this loser who "smells a rat".
Based on my objective experience with David, I think he is somewhat eccentric in his beliefs and in the manner in which he conducts his trainings. But, I also believe that he delivers a valuable product on the subject of oil trading. I got a lot out of it.
Only cowards go online and make unfounded statements that hurt innocent people trying to enlighten others and make a living.
I smell a rat too, and it's the guy who took the time to smear David with the most ridiculous post I've ever read. Ask yourself why a person would do such a thing. My guess is he has a competing product or service and this is his cheap way of crushing the competition.
Think about it, would an ordinary person with other important things to do single out David and make this pathetic remark about his product knowing absolutely nothing about it?
My name is Scott, and I approved this message
I'll second that
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
As one who has also been slandered by scum like biffco who always stay anonymous and simply put out cowardly and incomplete statements only for the purpose of putting doubt in people's minds, I will second the challenge made by David.
I challenge you to reveal your cowardly self. We know this will never happen, because you live in the dark shadows and not even your wife knows you. You have secrets and and incompetent opinions just like the one you anonymously express about David. You know nothing and you do nothing. I have no doubt you work in a dingy cubicle or other horrible place and hate life.
I have no doubt that you are impotent and spend most of your time in a jack booth or in porn sites secretly and anonymously fantasizing about things you don't have the balls to go after.
David and I are different. We have opinions based on reality and study. We make things happen and we offer products to people to make their lives better. We offer solutions and we don't hide from the world like miserable scum like you biffco.
I am free, and David is free because we produce value for ourselves, and others. You are puke and produce nothing for yourself nor anyone else and because of this your life is pathetic and you, even though probably in denial about it, secretly know it, and it is that knowledge that prevents you from being a real man, from being able to argue with an intellect like Davids in the open, from being able to satisfy a woman, and from being unafraid of life.
Stay in the dark, that's where you belong. Or reveal yourself, David is not hiding from you, because he knows there is no escaping you. Scum like you will always be there spewing all your garbage anonymously as you have done here against David.
David is NOT A SCAMMER!
AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)
etc. I bought his oil trading video a year ago and my experienced was different of yours. I knew David as representative of his product we do communicate for business transactions. Since I bought the video from him I had lots of question how to use the code and its function and sincerely he replied all my concerns. I almost gave up because of my small knowledge of trading and I earned less from what I expected but that time David was my friend and he really guided me and step by step he instructed me. And because of my determination to earn I was able to earn more through constant practice.
I was amazed when he introduced to me the blackjack strategy and I realized he is a great genius. I told my uncle about blackjack who used to play in casino and my uncle grabbed one of the videos and it was worked well. I didnt hear any bad complaint from my uncle by then, but he just gave a big THANK YOU to me and especially to David.
Truly, David is a good guy and his concern to everybody. Tell me, who are the hackers that discovered something then shared it to others for its advantage? Answer? theres none, only David did. So, why you people got mad and angry for him to think you have its beneficial part? I think you just had a miscommunication to him and because you need to prosper that fast but you failed and then what you did was gave bad information of him. I dont blame you because that was your experience. In trading and as a trader there are always pros and cons but in this situation especially you have the ace how to win it or earned more, it should be have patience, determination and more practice you would able to reach what you want. Strike it every day little by little you are already on the top without noticing it.
For me, my relationship to David is doing well and my trading habit is working better every day. And I believe that I am not alone in this world being blessed of what David brought to me and I think I should not read your complaints against him and just shut up. David is a great guy, if he was selfish enough he wouldnt shared what he discovered and you wouldnt encountered him. He just wants to help us. He just wants to overcome our finances dilemmas. Thanking him
is not enough.
David's ain't a scam!
AUTHOR: Scott - (United States of America)
I'm on David's side.
AUTHOR: LAnce - Los Angeles (United States of America)
David is not a SCAMMER and i will stand up for that. All he is trying to do is to expose what he has discovered, hoping to wake people up.His website offers a free live demonstration of the code for people to see and witness how the secret code works. And now people are calling him a scam. Is that how scammers do things? Guess not.
The only reason why these people are complaining is because they don't have the brain or maybe they have, but their brains are definitely not working, not capable of understanding and grasping what and how the code works. Too bad.
For me i will always be thankful because he has given me a way out of this declining economy. I am now earning so well and living a lavished, abundant life that i have always wanted.
Proud to let you know that I am a success
AUTHOR: Zander - (Canada)
We are just lucky that this guy who has discovered the Secret in the Oil market, is kind enough to share it with us Attend their free Trading Demo so you can see for yourself what I am talking about.
I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
AUTHOR: Bruce - (USA)
I admit, David and I had some misunderstandings at first, but we were able to settle it.I admire this guy so much because of his will to help others. And this guy is kind enough to spend his time entertaining my endless questions to the extent that it seemed like some of my questions were already nonsense. I am sorry for that David. But I should say thank you for your generous heart, definitely 400$ for the videos is not enough to repay you for the success that I am achieving now because of what you have shared to me and to the world.
And also I was able to attend the free live demonstration together with others who were curious and interested, and we were able to witness the what is calledthe secret code. Since then, I have continued to use the secret code in all my tradings and this is the reason why I earn more than enough every day.I dont want to talk about the exact figures I have in the bank for you to believe how successful I am by the using that code. But I just want to convey and prove that oil trading academy is not a scam, never was and never will be. I believe that David does not deserve to be called a SCAM as well as the OIL TRADING ACADEMY.
See for yourself, Nov 22. David's Proof of the Truth.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
Check out his Demonstration Room on November 22, 2011, and see if he's the real deal or not for yourself. I recommend it.
NOT A Scam At All.....
AUTHOR: Wilson - (Canada)
Trading needs constant practice. So if you are a beginner, do not expect that you can get much money as you expect. You need to work hard for it! If there is something that you do not understand, do not hesitate to ask David or people from the Oil Trading Academy, I am pretty sure that they will give you all the information you need to know.
Oil Trading Academy does work, they are not a scam at all!
Trading oil academy RAT ?
AUTHOR: william60 - pattaya (Thailand)
OK back to the issue, I really spent alot of time studying this before i purchased the videos both the advanced and macro code. I did exactly as instructed. I opened a demo account so i could follow what dave was saying in realtime and on the same platform he is showing in the videos. I was very impressed as what he had said worked well. It was work nothing is easy and not a get rich quick scheme you have to put in your time and efforts.
I have watched both sets of the code three times and i will tell you this every time i watch them i learn something new. I will spend again many hours this weekend doing it again i will view the videos and i am sure with confidence i will learn something new again. THIS SITE AND PRODUCT WORKS YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK TO LEARN IT !!. Please do not judge the person or product by where he lives, dresses or talks. I wish you all a very happy Holiday Season and a Happy new year. William from Paraidise [Thailand]
Oil trading is not a scam
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
Jeff, you need to open your eyes and see, these videos are real time and I have seen David explaining them before the actual action and it works.
David, Jeff is wasting his time and your time writing unnecessarily to spoil your name.
Thanks David for sharing this great secret with us.
The Only Review You Need to Read.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
David is an individual who believes in the truth. We are the type of people that believe, by concealing the truth, one is abetting and aiding those people who choose to conceal and suppress it.All of those people who claim it is a scam are too incompetent to follow instructions, or pay diligent attention to his instructions. He has a new set of videos coming out soon that will update, expand, and reconfirm his winning strategy.
Don't think I'm telling the truth? Then don't mind any of these reviews and go along with your life. All you're doing is missing out on one of the most precious opportunities of your life. Spread the word and spread this review.
The best money making opportunity ever !!
AUTHOR: Henryk K - (United States of America)
Regards,
Henryk
Watch Your Word
AUTHOR: Amor - (United States of America)
I can't help but notice your presence here, I have been reading your postings saying all youve got to put down David and convince everybody that he is a scammer. But whatever you do, you cannot prove to us and to everyone, especially to people who used the secret code videos successfully and until now their making their own fortune,that David is a bad man. I want to inform you that I am doing well in my trades using the secret code videos and thanks to David. The secret code videos are really working accurately well for me.And to you Jeff I can testify that youre wrong about his videos and youre saying the wrong words to David since I knew him in a long period of time. Im doing well in my trading with him and I cant believe that you describe him as a rat, scumbag, moron and etc. imagining David as that? That is Impossible because I knew him as kind, good man and honest exactly opposite of what youre trying to say about him. Those words you've described David seems to me that you're describing yourself. Better go and do something else and get a life instead of fooling people to believe you.
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Chen - (Taiwan)
It took me patience to understand it....
AUTHOR: xiang - (Taiwan)
David IS NOT scam!!!!!
AUTHOR: AliFiroozi - Karaj (Iran)
I don 't really know why you guys keep slandering like there is no tomorrow! why the heck are you doing this?
It sounds like you 're really enjoying this!
I 've been trading the Commodity Futures markets for years now and have always known for a fact that nearly
all of them are controlled by a huge power! this without a doubt is Illuminati! well, cycles and patterns don 't lie!
they do exist! but it looks like you guys don 't want to see the truth!
Dear Jeff, I 'm not fake! bought the videos three months ago and I 'm really happy I did! time cycles exist and David is right!
Please stop slandering!
Thanks!
#51 Consumer Comment
Learning the help David is offering
AUTHOR: Maria - (Singapore)
I have been reading this report long ago and it seems as though it's a constant bickering between David and Jeff. David being the subject of hate by Jeff.
To Jeff since you claim that what David is selling is just a scam why don't you debunk his videos and prove to us all that it is indeed a scam! Have you seen his videos? Because if so, you would have stopped barking by now but if you have seen his videos and still you are like this then I have something to tell you - stop barking, stop gambling and start studying the market. Truth is, the market will move up and down, up and down, and then shoot up killing all? your sells then it will shoot down, killing all your buys, the statistics has it that there that most people CRASH AND BURN, very quickly. It is Davids videos that can help you understand why it's happening and prevent yourself from going downhill with tradings that alone is already a big help worth more than the price he is selling his videos. So stop barking and start studying the market better yet start watching David's videos.
Thank you
To Jeff, the Lonely Internet Police!!!
AUTHOR: Chun - (Philippines)
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
I bought David's video' and are having great success with them, it turned my life around. I tried to help other people and share the code but realised most people are lazy and stupid and wants to be spoon fed so I gave up helping others and now keeping it all for myself.
Travis and Jeff and anyone here that rips David off I think you are all part of the stupid low lifes on earth. Instead of spending your time running David down go learn the code. Oh ...sorry you probably don't have the brains t do so.
Believe me David is not a scam.
AUTHOR: Ralph - (Philippines)
If you "haters" have really bought the videos, but weren't able to get the code and use them effectively, well then it's not David's problem anymore that your pea brains are so tiny to comprehend these things, you just simply don't have the intellect to understand the code and be successful.
You people should not believe in what these crazy people are negatively saying about David. Clearly they are liars and scums! I am so dismayed upon reading lots of negative remarks against David. I believe and i can assure you that David is not a scam.
I am a supporter of Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
Keep it up David and do not let anyone interfere with your business. God bless you.
David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
First of all, I would say its a waste of time to try to convince anyone here! But the only thing that I can say is that David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
Well before purchasing Davids product, I was skeptical, and was afraid of beeing scammed. But it resumed at last, to be the best purchase I have ever made.
I Can even tell, Its so simple that anyone who is trying hard enough to understand it, yet comprehend, the way that David teach it, will definitely Catch the secret and apply itrules. When you watch his videos, ITS ALL THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES!! WAOOOOooo!! :)
David, shared is secret with the world so we can all prosper(Money) in a way that would have never been possible for ordinary people. And you guys , are using all you energy to shut him down and saying only supposition like you believe to be true.!???
I seriously dont understand your behavior and that is SAD. Guess What, if you were using your energy to understand the code instead of insulting him in many ways ,you would have found what David is explaining in his videos!
I am just a normal guy like you all! But instead of presuming that what David was sharing was true or not I seriously tought it could be a Gold mine for me !! AND IT HAS !
I would like to remind you, The truth lays within (in each one of us). Like there is two sides on a medal, there is two sides on a coin, There is negative and positive, Good and evil..... In any of these, whatever you choose or accept, it will be a truth for you. Its a matter of belief.
The world that you have has come from within. What reflect the outside world has before started within you........ Thats the way it is and that will never change. If you think David is a lie, then your prophecy will be!! In the opposite, it also will become!
PS:. Personaly, I would not ever want to share a secret like the secret code....May be only with my closest friends and family members. Why bother with oders? Most people a skeptical at first!! People thought that Henry Ford , Thomas Edison ..... to only name a few , were stupide and crazy!!!
And look at it now!!!!!??? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Take care all, Peace!!
Christian
Qc/Canada
Oiltradingacademy is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
Oh and you guys taking David on for his grammar and language it is so laughable. I have found people doing that are usually the dump ones just cause you can spell does not mean you are clever. I have been taken on by many people about my spelling while they don't even bother to know that English is not my primary language,you see spelling does not give me the truth or make me rich, but I can tell you this much you dumbo's, cause of OILTRADINGACADEMY I am rich.
I might not spell all that well but I can tell you this much,I AM THE BEST OILTRADER IN SOUTH AFRICA. Oh and yes and I am a woman, intelligent and not lazy, I will even go so far as to say that what I learned from David and applying my own savy as well, I trade even better than him,that is what a good teacher he is.
If I could give you my telephone nr here I would so I can just tell you some more how dumb you are.
Fransa
South Africa
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
Jeff catch me on Facebook ..not many with my name, I am the one with the green eyes..lets see how clever you are.LOL
Fransa
Oil Trading Academy is not a SCAM!!
AUTHOR: Peterk - Irvine (United States of America)
I have traded the forex market. Let me tell you that this market is designed for you to lose. there's is no advantage in this market. Only the 1% win all of the time. People should jump on this advantage that David had discovered trading oil.
David is trying to help people break free of this matrix we all live in. Too many people are brainwashed in this matrix and just don't get the big picture. David is trying to get people to understand the truth out there. A scammer will just take your money and run!!
David's videos will help me to make money and become successful trading the oil markets because I have the code. who would not want an edge these days??? you would have to be on crack not wanting an advantage in the oil markets. My world has opened up since the 1st day talking to David.
Whenever I have a question, David response with a prompt answer about the videos. Brainwashed people just don't get the big picture on what's going on. I like working with David and he tells the truth. To all of you HATERS, you need to get a "freakin life" and better things to do than provide negative comments.
I stand behind David and his products a 100%. They will help me and anyone who works it to be successful in this declining economy to BREAK free of this matrix that we are all caught it. To all of you haters, go back to your miserable existence and get a LIFE
Jeff, is a PURE liar. But He is untertaining.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
Go Go Go. Take that sucker down!!! :D
I am hoping to see peace army............. going down and out of the internet!!! That is all he deserve
What a morron and parano....that guy his!!! unreal!!! Lollll
I think I will help you on his case!!
Take care And
Chris
ps: To all people that want to know the truth about David, Well, He is not a liar. And the code Works perfectly.
Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Why don't you pay for the videos and try out the system? I did. It works great. I'm having so much fun with it that I gave up the forex system I've been running for four years to run this system.
If you're going to impugn someone you should at least be able to back you claims up with evidence. You have not done so here. Maybe the rat you smell is looking at you in the mirror.
Sympathy
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
All he wants to do is piss you off, with his rambling about fake posts, he is so stupid that he can not even see what is fake and what not.
You can not fix stupid, there just ain't no tablets for stupid.
He does not even make an effort to come find me on Facebook , he just ignores all our post flat cause he knows if he does find me he will blow his cover.LOL
Well to Jeff and Neil and any other bozzo here that calls David a scam. I will tell you what his video's did for me and without bothering David ten millions times by email or phone , and I am sure he will testify to that, I have never ever even spoke to him on the phone.
2 Years ago I came across, Davids website while I was searching for brokers to trade forex. I was down and out after the bank took back my home and five other of my investment properties, cause as you know or probably don't know that America and England all controlled by Isra-hell and the Vatican which is Satan NWO it self which is busy screwing the whole world over.
South Africa, the richest mineral country in the world and also the only country that is going to stay standing after the pole shift,which these people know ,also had to go under the knife of these Satans, with their false propaganda about apartheid in our country and the man made god Mandela which is actually a terrorist in real life. So now our country which us whites build up was given to the niggers by your country America an her allies Isra-hell and England. That put us whites on the genocide watch list and excluded us from the job market with their clever Black Empowerment Equity plan, and I tell you what these stupid niggers could not have thought this all out on their own, so we know who is behind it as I mentioned.
So in view of this situation in our country I lost everything I owned , I could not get a job as I am white , female, over qualified and to old according to them buggers. I then borrowed money from my brother to buy David's video's and also used my borrowings to buy two contracts to trade oil. In the first 8 months I build my 2 contracts (at the time $1500 for 1 contract) up to 15 contracts. I now mostly trade with 10 contracts, anything I gain over that I take out. There are 3 and some times more that 3 macro's in a day and I am so experienced now that I can at times get +- 300pips (I call them )in one day with one trade. One can make 100 pips everyday taking a macro or scalping the strategies. If you sit infront of the computer 8 hours a day trading like any person working a 8 hour job ,you can do this.
I have just bought myself a farm and cash that was,and do you know much a farm in SA cost go Google it :)
Now I must say I am a very lucky girl cause we trade in $ right?..so when I bring my money over to SA I get 7 to 8 times more when my money gets exchanged to ZAR.
One macro trade with 10 contracts = $10000 , (Ten thousand dollar)
+-R180,000 on hundred and eighty thousand rand , people earn that here in a year.
This will be of value to you in the USA of +-$80 000.
I average between 1800 to 2500 pips a month, now I know not everyone can be at the computer as much as I do but I treat my trading like it is my job. And now I am about to get a Broker in
Europe where I will trade in Euro which I will get an exchange rate of 10 to the ZAR.:)
So guys maybe you should first be in life where I was before you get hungry enough to put in the hours and the effort I put in. I did not wait for a green and red light , I used my own savvy as well
and made a huge success of it and figured trends on the chart that was the same as the automated strategies, even before David sold the automated strategies.
Ok now let me guess Neil will say proof it, Jeff will say its a fake post ,cause Neil wants to be
spoon fed and Jeff is just here to piss people off cause he earns more than this smearing other peoples names.
I dont have to proof anything to anyone, specially not people that put in more effort to smear other people instead of spending their time making money.
You must all be out of your mind if you think I am going to divulge my personal stuff here to you.
And I actually don't give a rats a*s if you want to stay in life where you are. Or more likely you are the scared enemy itself posting here that makes a lot more money taking people money with you computer controlled trading.
I must say I just love making money from Satan himself.LOL
Thanks again David you where not a coincidence that crossed my life you where a God send.
PS:Now you will not hear much from me anymore as you are wasting my valuable trading time, I
might just pop in now and again to come and have a laugh at your worthless ranting.
Kind Regards
Fransa
Jeff's Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Why don't you actually try trading the system? Is the system perfect? No, nothing is perfect. Does it work? It seems to for me. Cut your losses and let your winners run.
David has created new videos for each of the last two days. You can tell he's not cherry picking his trades, because the software gives you the daily score. If you actually run strategy runner, you will see that the top number on the trading pad gives you the profit/loss for the day, and the bottom one gives you the profit/loss for the individual trade in which you are currently engaged.
So if David was cherry picking his trades, you would see a large loss in the above box.
Again, you seem to have some sort of personal issue with David. Why can't you remain on topic and discuss only the system? If you don't like the system, move on with your life.
Code trading for real
AUTHOR: JDNeeman - (El Salvador)
First of all my name is J Dennis Neeman Sarano, and i live in El Salvador at the time, im Israeli Army reservist and Agro-industrial Engineer, i have been trading Forex for about 6 years, and NO im not David, you can write me or call me at jdneeman@gmail.com or at my mobile 50379283218 to confirm my identity.
the last year i came across David website oiltradingacademy, i bought Davids Secret code videos in the US and brought them with me but didnt had the time to watch them untill a month ago, i came to realize that the code was so obvious and real, and i started using it with my regular trading on forex specifically the EURUSD pair, if you have watched the videos you can properly identify the code and is amazing how other traders perform their trades using the code even if they dont know what the code is, you can search you tube real trades videos and look how the code just jump up most of the time, at the time i have started to trade Oil in my trading platform and have had a success rate of 70% and still working to get a higher success rate ( remember i only have 1 month trading with the code), then i saw the Macro code videos and i was set free!! i took only one trade a day using the macro code on EURUSD and Oil, my conclusion to people that come across this site and want to buy the secret code or macro code is: IS REAL, IT WORKS, ITS PROFITABLE, AND IS NOT SCAM, please if you buy this and request some help i can help you with my little experience and of course David is there to help us all!,
Wishing the best.
J Dennis Neeman.
Macro Code, BJ System
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
Keep in mind though, just because something's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm not saying David's on par with DesCartes, who "discovered" analytic geometry or Leibniz, who invented the calculus. I'm just saying.
As for his claims of high percentages of success, what you say is accurate in a random market. However what David claims (and what imo appears to be the case) is that price action in the oil futures market is in fact NOT random, but is artificially contrived and manipulated. Now whether this is due to "The Illuminati" or merely algos of Goldman Sachs (is there any difference?) is neither here nor there. The fact is these are observable, repeatable and predictable phenomena.
Now I just want to say something about the Macro code. Wow! LOL. I'm blown away by it.
YO, JEFF! CHECK OUT THE MACRO CODE. For real. LOL. This is AWESOME.
Seriously, I'm checking out these macro code videos, then going over my old charts that I've been saving for the past month while I was running the more introductory "secret code" videos. WOW man! I'm leaving a ton of money on the table!
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#387 Consumer Comment
Hey David. Another day another $1.00
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Hey David. You sure you don't want to work with me? Here is today's long term trade. Piece of cake. Another day another close to a $1. I think it will get down to $87.90 myself. What to you think? If it does am I MAGIC or do I know the CODE better than you?? ;-)
How is the world of crazyville tonight? Raking in those BIG BUCKS from the desperate buying into your BS? How is life you loser? First RULE OF RUNNING A SCAM IS INSIST YOU ARE NOT RUNNING A SCAM BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS right David??

#386 General Comment
Selling videos containing trading advice to Individuals isn't Individualizing your trading advice?
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
We can argue terminology all day long here, but on the surface when you charge $500 for a video that contains advice on how to trade a commodity, which by the way promises 80% accuracy (another red flag the CFTC/NFA warns the consumer about), does that not enter you into a contract that goes from generalized trading advice to individualized trading advice? Why because the video doesn't change from client to client, is that your saving grace? Arguing against that fact holds no water because he is charging money for his advice, period, he is advising people on how to trade commodities (not very well) for personal profit. Don't you think if it were not against the rules to put out a video that doesn't change from client to client, everyone would be doing it?
I.E., in contrast the wackjob free videos that last 3 hours on Youtube David puts out that watch oil charts all day long with his commentary "it may go up here...the code is forming...it may go down here..." that is generalized "advice" (or more accurately generalized amateur opinion on what price might do on a chart). But when he steps over the line and claims if you buy his $500 video which contains secret advice behind earning obscene profits in oil trading, whether it be the same video for one person to the next, he then becomes a Trading Adviser that now has paying clients, and the CFTC guideline clearly states that if you have more than 12 clients in a 15 month period, you must register with the CFTC and take a Series 3 exam.
David has done none of this and would rather go off on his rants about people questioning his expertise (and in my case, his legitimacy as a trading adviser) in this field as freemasons, or simpletons, or worse yet "forex trading scum." I'd like to know what David does to help the world besides put out rants about how we're all prisoners in a matrix. Does he give to charities? Does he volunteer his time at homeless shelters? Does he travel the world to help children in third world countries become literate? Well, THIS FOREX TRADING SCUM BAG DOES.
Is the name of his website the Oil Trading Hypothetical Training Center? No it's "Oil Trading Academy" which conjures up the idea in the potential victims mind that if he pays $500 for this "non-individualized (per say) trading advice video" he will be getting an education on how to trade with 80% accuracy (per say).
And how can you say Forex is NOT regulated? It's one of the most regulated things in America since Dodd-Frank. Ask David about how Algorithmic Trading Bots RULE the commodities market and make being a retail trader of oil a joke, his eyes will probably glaze over: "Algo-what?"; he's not even smart enough to realize he's trading a commodity that he has no chance of being successful at because he doesn't have the programming skills to create an algorithmic trading bot of his own, he allegedly just relies on the "secret code" only he can see that forces him to sit in his chair for 12 hours a day saying "it may go up here...wait, it may go down here...wait, the code isn't so clear now, if we have a breakout here it will go up" He is stating the most obvious crap and only newbies will fall for it, and they clearly do. "If it breaks out it will go up..." No S*** sherlock; it's like "if Babe Ruth hits the ball hard enough he'll get a home run..." It's almost comical if it wasn't so sad, the man is clearly deranged. I feel sorry doubly for anyone that gives this man his personal info by buying into this scheme, trying to get your money back when you lose it all, and have to hear terroristic threats about being sued yourself for questioning his methods or in one case above on this very page, a man has to worry about him showing up at your house to "silence" you to keep the scam going; yes I feel he is that deranged that he is dangerous. I agree with another poster he is suffering from a major borderline personality disorder that requires immediate attention. Either this is one big act (which would be very amusing if he wasn't ripping people off for $500 a pop) or we're going to see a "you know what spree" on the news soon about a guy named Dave going postal on his neighborhood thinking they were all Agent Smiths coming after him to drag him back to his pod in the Matrix.
This is all very beguiling, the mason stuff, the 10,000 word rants about how the world is run by a super machine, we're all in the matrix, etc, it's all become entertaining but back to business (something David is lacking the skills for) the CFTC has caught wind of David I assure you and instead of any of the phantoms he's fighting (only in his own mind) having to worry about the fairy tale press releases being sent out to the fairy tale media outlets he thinks will release them any time soon that will "bring them down" within the next 6 months, it's David who has to worry about the CFTC literally going to his registrar and taking over his domain for defrauding the public; and that's the one thing I agree with him on, the government has the power to take over any website and sadly for him, his will be next.

#385 Consumer Comment
Anyone else picture David....
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Anyone else picture David in Superman Pajamas in his tiny apartment or rented room not showered for a week and typing away endlessly with paper strewn about that all say:
"All work and no play makes David a dull boy"
I mean COME ONE... If nothing else, this is pretty funny stuff. Imagine how long it takes him to write all that garbage he does in his posts that NO ONE reads and he truly believes he has accomplished something. I picture him, after a thousand word post, wringing his hands in evil delight chanting.... I've showed them... I have showed all of those evil Mason's. I just yet YES a hundred times so that will show them I have tons of supporters because all 100 people are waiting until my post hits and tehy all come in and hit yes within minutes after my post!!! They don't know who they are messing with! I will not stop until I sell 100 videos a day - not for the money of course - so that I can turn the world against these evil and vile people!!! mmmuuueeaaahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!!!!
OK David... get to work... Hit NO a hundred times!!!!! mmmuueaaahhhahhh ha ha ha ha haaaa!!!!
Soooo..... when you gonna to another video against Forex Peace Army??

#384 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Freemason Conspiracy
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Just as I discovered the "code" for the Oil market, I've also discovered an even larger code, the Freemasons code they are using to put the world into their "Matrix" of lies and deception on a global scale.....
A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, E=5, F=6, G=7, H=8, I=9, J=10, K=11, L=12, M=13, N=14, O=15, P=16, Q=17, R=18, S=19, T=20, U=21, V=22, W=23, X=24, Y=25, Z=26......
Using the first letter of each word we get a clear pattern, showing that these words were specifically chosen to create this pattern. And there is a meaning behind this pattern, and that meaning goes mind boggling deep.
31=31st Degree Mason
32=32nd Degree Mason
33=33rd Degree Mason
26=two sixes (66)
23=two three's (33)
13=Anti-Christ
36=three sixes (666)
Mason Code Religion
Jesus Christ 13 (The Lamb of God, God's special Christ, the Son of God)
I am 10 (God is a perfect 10)
Holy Bible 10 (The Bible is a perfect 10)
God's Church 10 (God's Church is a perfect 10)
Christian Church 33 (33rd Degree Mason, it's not Christ's Church, it's God's Church, God puts Christ at the head of his church.)
Catholic Church 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
GOD 26 (Execute Order 66, the ultimate trick on 7 billion people, make them believe Lucifer is God)
Al-lah 13 (Anti-Christ) God's name is "I am" given to Moses.
Mor-mon 26 (Execute Order 66, pervert God and Christ and the teachings of all prior prophets)
Jehovah's Witnesses 33 (33rd Degree Mason, 100% Anti-Christ/Bible, Satan's Doctrine)
The Pope 36 (666, only God is "holy", only God is our "Father", the Pope makes himself "God")
Tal-mud 33 (33rd degree Mason created the Talmud book)
Mason Code Star Wars
Luke Skywalker 31 (31st Degree Mason)
Sith Lord 31 (31st Degree Mason)
Light Saber 31 (31st Degree Mason)
R2D2 26 (Execute Order 66, the droid army)
Darth Vader 26 (Execute Order 66, child with no Father)
Darth Sidious 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Ben Kenobi 13 (Anti-Christ)
Commander Cody 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
The Force 26 (Execute Order 66, teach Satan's power)
Mace Windu 36 (666) Sacrifice for Darth Vadar to gain power, Obama is the same thing, a sacrifice..
Dark Side 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Galactic Senate 26 (Execute Order 66, establish New World Order)
Wookie 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Clone Troops 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Death Star 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Mason Code Idol Worship & Fairy Tales
Super Man 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Spider Man 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Zorro 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Mickey Mouse 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Peter Pan 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Alice In Wonderland 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
Witch 23 (33rd Degree Mason, teach Satan's power to girls via TV & Movies)
Warlock 23 (33rd Degree Mason, teach Satan's power to boys via TV & Movies)
Wizard 23 (33rd Degree Mason, teach Satan's power to adults and general public)
Magic 13 (Anti-Christ) A magician uses lies and deceit to accomplish his task, Satan's ways.
ELF 23 (33rd Degree Mason) Little people that really do exist in the demonic world.
Fairy Tale 26 (Execute Order 66, make them have fantasy and magic, take away God)
Black Knight 13 (Anti-Christ) The dark Knight that does under secrecy for a dark purpose.
Robin Hood 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Muffin Man 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Pied Piper 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Fairy Godmother 13 (Anti-Christ) Don't ask God for things cause you have a Fairy Godmother to ask.
Chronicles of Narnia 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship, fantasy and magic take away God.)
Magic Wand 36 (666) The device used to invoke Satan's power.
Mason Code Satan
Witch-Craft 26 (Execute Order 66, Teach Satan's Power)
Voo-Doo 26 (Execute Order 66, Teach Satan's Power)
The Force 26 (Execute Order 66, teach Satan's power)
Sea-nce 33 (33rd Degree Mason, Teach Communicating With Satan)
Polter-Geist 23 (33rd Degree Mason, teach dead spirits are ghosts, not demons)
Mason Code Government
S-4 23 (Groom Lake Space Base, 33rd Degree Mason where they interact with aliens)
Mili-Tary 33 (33rd Degree Mason, you have to kill people at all times cause people are the enemy)
Sol-Dier 23 (33rd Degree Mason, killing people is not only fun but patriotic as well, and your duty)
Penta-Gon 23 (33rd Degree Mason, have to plan the killing of people and make a science of it.)
Department of Defense 23 (33rd Degree Mason, have to defend yourself and kill people)
CIA 13 (Anti-Christ, lie, manipulate, deceive, kill, murder, destroy)
Mason Code Movies & TV
Deep Impact 13 (Anti-Christ, to be used for global fear)
Independence Day 13 (Anti-Christ, army of earth fights against Christ)
The Matrix 33 (33rd Degree Mason, where everybody is and doesn't know it, used as a battery.)
Morpheous 13 (Anti-Christ, finds the chosen one.)
Marty Mcfly 26 (Execute Order 66, time travel, make idols)
BIFF 23 (33rd Degree Mason, character within "Back To The Future".)
9-02-1885 33 (33rd Degree Mason, date gone back to in time "Back To The Future 3")
s****. Halloween)
The Flintstones 26 (Execute Order 66, teach evolution the exact opposite of creation)
Fred Flinstone 66 (Execute Order 66, attach idols to evolution, make people identify with evolution.)
Ga-Zoo 33 (33rd Degree Mason, spaceman brings help with upside down pyramid)
Mork & Mindy 26 (Execute Order 66, teach help coming from spaceman with upside down pyramid)
Mork 13 (Anti-Christ, the antichrist comes to bring help and "peace" to the world)
Jurassic Park 26 (Execute Order 66, evolution indoctrination)
MGM 33 (33rd Degree Mason, create the Masonic illusion on the USA and influence the world.)
NCC 1701-D 33 (33rd Degree Mason, Star Trek is a Masonic creation to support evolution)
1701-D 13 (Anti-Christ) Star Trek Space Shuttle also equals 13.
The Twilight Zone 66 (Execute Order 66, teach ghosts, possession, occult, aliens, witches, etc.)
Closed Captioning 33 (33rd Degree Mason, Mason's don't want anybody to be left out.)
PG-13 23-13 (33rd Mason & Anti-Christ, Mason's started the whole filtering process to begin with.)
Holly-Wood 31 (31st Degree Mason, created by Mason's to brainwash and manipulate people.)
Mason Code Sex
Porno-Graphy 23 (33rd Degree Mason, bring people to unrighteousness and pervert themselves.)
Mason Code Racial
KKK 33 (33rd Degree Mason, hating people is good if you're a Mason, it's what you enjoy.)
Mason Code Hate Christ
Father Frost 66 (Execute Order 66, replace Christ with somebody else, cause they hate Christ.)
St. Nick 33 (33rd Degree Mason, associate Christ's birth with a regular person, not Christ.)
Mason Code Evolution
Dino-Saurs 23 (33rd Degree Mason, create name and illusion an animal existed 65 million years ago.)
Mason Code Free Mason
Free Masons 6/13 (Free Mason Code in numerical terms)
FM 6/13 (Free Masons created FM radio to talk to you and entertain you and brainwash you.)
Friday 13th 6/13 (Free Masons special day where they love to do evil.)
Masonic Temple 33 (33rd Degree Mason, Mason's are the builders and this is their 33rd degree Temple.)
Mason Code Media
Emergency Broadcast System 26 (Execute Order 66, trust in government, take away God)
Coast To Coast 26 (Execute Order 66, prepare the way for the antichrist by brainwashing.)
Ya-h*o 33 (33rd Degree Mason, housing crisis, credit crisis, fear fear fear, hope you enjoy it.)
CNN 31 (31st Degree Mason) Incite fear about everything, hurricanes, nuclear crisis, housing crisis, financial crisis, terrorists, drug dealers, oil spills, the flu etc. Then put on the illusion that a black man who reads from a tele-prompter is running the USA and making decisions. The test is how dumb can they make people? Turn the channel to the Travel Channel and watch a really fat guy get awards for eating 50 hamburgers at once, teaching gluttony without people being able to realize it. And getting paid millions of dollars per year to do it, because of the extreme importance of eating 50 hamburgers and getting really super fat and winning ribbons and awards and getting your name put up on walls for your incredible achievements. Again, the test is, how dumb can they make people? For even monkeys are not that dumb.
Mason Code Financial
Goldman Sachs 26 (Execute Order 66, financial chaos and sorcery of every kind, a magicians touch.)
Credit Card 33 (33rd Degree Mason, get everyone onto the electronic system, make it mandatory by default without looking like it.)
Mason Code Holiday
Hallo-Ween 31 (31st Degree Mason, even Mason's need a holiday, a day for ghosts which are demons and every foul spirit to play and enjoy themselves doing evil.)
Mason Code Justice
Concentration Camp 33 (33rd Degree Mason, where they stick those who are their enemy, the intellectuals of society, and the hillbillies of society will be the ones who put them there, too dumbed down into oblivion to understand or even care what they do.)
Mason Code Computers
Micro-Soft 32 (32nd Degree Mason, must build up the worldwide global network to pave the way for the New World Order to emerge.)
Mason Code Video Games
X-Box 26 (Execute Order 66, Teach Killing, Shooting, Firing, Destroying, Murdering Being Fun)
Mason Code UFO's
MJ-12 26 (Execute Order 66, teach aliens without looking like you are)
Mason Code Fast Food
Ronald Mcdonald 31 (31st Degree Mason, goofballs attract other goofballs making your target audience easy to find.)
Mcdonalds 13 (Anti-Christ, pure poison enjoyed by billions, and then comes the cancer.)
Burger King 13 (Anti-Christ, have cancer your way, and a stomach ache to go along with it.)
Coca Cola 33 (33rd Degree Mason, used to have cocaine in it, now just chemicals to poison you.)
Wendys 23 (33rd Degree Mason, greasy food that makes you fat and unhealthy, what a wonderful idea.)
Weinersnitzel 23 (33rd Degree Mason, nothing better than all the left over parts from a cow that nobody would eat all smashed up into a hotdog on a bun smothered in ketchup and mustard in a vain attempt to drown out that terrible taste of eating feet grinds and intestines, yum yum, I'll take 3, one for me and one for my friend dumber.)
M&Ms 26 (Execute Order 66, make them eat poison, and like it, all hands love M&M's, where the milk chocolate melts in your mouth, not in your hands, and where the chemicals effect your body on a very complex level and make you unhealthy, but don't tell the AMA that, they already know, ssshhh)
Mason Code Disinformation Agents
David Icke 13 (Anti-Christ, leading people to the Anti-Christ, said was "son of God" in 90's)
Jordan Maxwell 23 (Russel Pine, 33rd Degree Masons Agent, no God, aliens coming, accept reality.)
Zeitgeist 26 (Execute Order 66, destroy God with logic and half truths, Mason's must destroy a "good" and righteous God)
Zeit-Geist 33 (33rd Degree Mason, we must destroy God, replace with evolution, then prepare the way for the Son of Perdition to be god.)
Mason Code Biology
RNA 33 (33rd Degree Mason, make believe you understand God's creation, just lie and people will believe no problem)
AIDS 33 (33rd Degree Mason) 33rd Degree Mason's created Aids Virus, first they get people to pervert themselves and help them do it, then they destroy and torment them on purpose because this is what they enjoy so much.
Can-Cer 33 (33rd Degree Mason, create the concept and name of cancer and then make people get it by feeding them food which not only has poisons within it, but which also provides no nutritional value, thereby starving the body of nutrition while at the same time poisioning the body, thus creating cancer. Then treat the cancer by killing all the cells in the body. And do all of this right in front of everyone's noses without them being able to realize what you're doing. Poison them from children to the death bed all the while posing as helping them the whole entire time, from birth to death. All the while never coming to the truth, which is simply to eat heathy eating God's food he created to eat and live a righteous clean godly life. Eating food without poisons put all over them while they're growing and producing food, what they refer to as "organic", meaning God's way of growing, not "conventional" which is like having a pest control company grow your food for you and act like nothing is wrong, that this is something "normal" to do. Anybody ready to wake up from the Mason's Matrix yet? Step out into the real world? Don't believe in evil? You're in for one whopper of a surprise coming in your life that's for sure.)
Mason Code Financial Markets
CFTC 32 (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) (32nd Degree Mason)
Forex Market 6/13 (Free Masons)
Futures Market 6/13 (Free Masons)
Stock Market 32 (32nd Degree Mason)
Mason Code Technology
DATA 26 ( Star Trek, execute Order 66, marvel at what Satan can create)
Beta Unit 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Maglev Train 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
Time Machine 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
Sky-Net 33 (33rd Degree Mason, here come the worldwide aerial droids to patrol the world)
Star Gate 26 (Execute Order 66, teach false science)
T-Mobil 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
IRobot2004 Movie: Time Index: 1:09:12 = 13 (Anti-Christ)
Don't let anybody in this world fool you, the Freemason's have put the ENTIRE financial system under the control of a computer program, so that this computer is controlling the prices of all Futures markets, all ETF's, and all stock Indexes, and not just for the USA but the entire world. They plan to crash world markets in ONE DAY as set forth in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:
Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion
Signed,
David
702-473-5823
More videos about the Freemasons and their worldwide system of corruption
Beware of the Forex market, the Mason's are in direct control of the Forex
market which is unregulated, unlike the Futures markets, and the computer that
controls the Forex market uses Artificial Intelligence to come and get your
stops, not allowing people to trade it actively and make money long term.
Additionally the Mason's are also behind these two websites:
Freemason Conspiracy

#383 Consumer Comment
mental illness
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
It's possible he started out relatively sane, with the "article marketing" (Web spam) stuff and the blackjack spam and so forth, and then became more nuts as time went on. But my guess is that he's been severely mentally ill all along. He's in his 40s, and the kind of dissociative symptoms and paranoid delusions he's obviously suffering from generally take hold in the teens or early 20s.
If you think it might be all an act, check his Youtube channel labeled "Information deposit." Watch a few of those and then ask yourself whether trying to appeal to him with reason, logic, and rationality is ever going to work. It's not. This kind of thing can only be remedied with serious antipsychotic medication, and I would guess in this case, a fairly long term hospital stay.
Hassling the guy here isn't going to accomplish anything. He's not just another sleazy Internet spammer or skeevy fraudmeister (though he does some of those things) -- he's suffering from a very severe illness.

#382 General Comment
Jeff - ROFL
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Jeff,
Jeff you are right, I tried to be civil and he just went crazy, I honestly thought I could have a reasonable conversation with him and let him demonstrate his system, infact I was hoping he would do that. Instead he made videos about how many sales he makes. I really dont get it, its so simple for this guy to just put a nail in this whole thread by just doing some live trades with his system.
Thanks so much for sending me the link to the video, you were right I couldnt stop laughing, the guy is actually entertaining. I havent laughed so much in a long time.
By the way do you have copies of his videos he is selling. Anyone will do.
Thanks
Adiel

#381 General Comment
David's press releases about to launch
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
David,
First im glad you are making some money, good for you but that's no proof your system is "90%" accurate. For someone whos so God fearing and against "masons" you sure love money, so didnt the bible mention money is the root of all evil... hmmmmm kind of puts a spot light on who the real mason is here would'nt you say Mr Capitalist.
I came on here and i was impartial and civil in my approach and you attacked me from the get go, I can see now how you drag people down into verbal gutter.
From all this do you know what I got... entertainment buddy. You may or may not be a con artist I still cant judge as ive not seen your videos but I would love someone to send me one, but my God mate you are one entertaining individual with your rants, at first I thought you were somehow kidding but you are actually serious! Please please release the press releases you so eagerly talk about (and dont forget to send me the links). Im sure they will be amazing. I was a little disappointed in the last Harry Potter book but im sure you'll top that for entertainment value.
All the best to you David (the real mason)

#380 Consumer Comment
You tried Adiel
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
You tried. You were professional and kind and all you were trying to do is ask David to PROVE his system right? Simple enough request of ANYONE hocking crap on the internet.
Since you have reached out in trying to deal civilly with David, how has he treated you?
Now, imagine trying to do the same thing on the phone and imagine what you get with him. He WANTS you to call him because and WANTS and NEEDS the attention because he is addicted to it like crack and getting people to talk to him so he can berate them makes him feel superior etc as is typical behavior with a narcissist.
You wanna get some idea of what it is like to talk to David? First look at what happened on Forex Peace Army not too long ago. This is very typical of what happens when David SPAMS their sites with his rhetoric and when they respond professionally at first, you can see it disintegrate as David goes crazy on them. Read Forex Peace Army first and you can see what a tool David is and then watch his youtube video... Be in a place where you can laugh your a*s off because you will!
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/spammers-hall-shame/11235-well-let-me-spam-you-secret-how-paying-me-money-will-make-me-money.html
Then watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pAvHSs1AS8
First class babbling lunatic loser who can only talk about how much money he is making scamming people but NEVER will you hear for one second how much money he is making playing blackjack or trading. NEVER... That is because he doen't have a working system for either. Common sense.

#379 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Nobody Believes You Mason
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Yeah that's why you keep making post after post because you cannot stand me talking about God. Nobody else would waste their time here except for you, right? You want people to stop buying my videos and guess what?
I just woke up and have 4 more sales, 3 for $800, and 1 for $400, that's $2800 in one day and the day has only just begun. You guys are making the biggest fools out of yourselves it's not even funny.
And now the Press Releases are going out, and I'm going to expose you and your ways to the world, you Mason's are going down, for I'm going to expose you everywhere to everybody and there is nothing you can do about it except for come onto this board and make post after post trying your absolute best to convince people not to buy my videos.
People are waking up Mason, they can see through your lies now..... I cannot wait until this life is over with so I no longer have to be around you freaks anymore, calling me a scam all over the entire Internet because you don't want people to learn of your treachery. Good luck with that Mason's you're going to need it, this is the week the pain starts boys so get ready here it comes.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#378 General Comment
TO ALL OF DAVIDS CLIENTS/ CUSTOMERS
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
Hi Ladies and Gentleman,
Do you really believe this guy David is even sane, have you read his posts on here, in a nut shell
1. He is more intelligent than all of us put together
2. he was attacked by demons
3. Anyone posting on here against him is a mason and a devil worshiper
4. God speaks to him directly
5. there is a conspiracy against him
6. he is on a fight to kill Lucifer
7. Anyone who criticizes him will burn in hell
8. His mother was attacked by demons
etc etc etc
Does he actually speak like this on the phone? or is he capable of having a normal conversation.
This question is just for people who have bought his system, what results did you get and how would you rate the overall win ratio?
My only argument to this is if he has cracked the code than surely he would be 100% accurate as computers work on an algorithm. If he isnt 100% accurate than its just a system. Your thoughts?
Please understand I am not against oiltradingacademy, I'm only responding to what I see.
Thanks
Adiel

#377 General Comment
David has lost the plot
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
David,
I am not a mason, nor am I associated with anything the freemasons get up to, nor do I know or care what they get up to.
If you want to continue on about satan, the ouiji board and masons etc go right ahead but you sound like a nut.
Now you have started about how demons attack you and your mother as if that had anything to do with this. You my friend have lost the plot.
I only continued on ripoffreport because this is the place i first heard of you.
Again I think you are just adding smoke screen by ranting off with this nonsense because your system is flawed. You want me to get in touch and talk to you over the phone, but have you heard yourself, please read back on the things you have written here. Why would anyone of sound mind feel they would get a fair discussion with the weird stuff you're ranting.
I'll be honest, it just seems as though its perfectly fine if someone praises your products but the moment someone asks questions or criticizes your business or products you cant handle it. All businesses get some negative feedback its just part of business. Why don't you grow up and handle criticism in a professional manner.
I'm sure your an intelligent individual David but you really are letting yourself down when you come on here and start with this religious conspiracy garbage.
I dont believe your products are totally useless, im sure you have a system that has some success as you have clients on here supporting you. But im sure even they are wondering about your sanity when you spew all this nonsense.
Thanks
Adiel

#376 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Adiel
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 03, 2012
If you were a real person you would either call me or email me, like everyone else does. You wouldn't speak to me through a Ripp Off Report.
What you are is a Mason pretending to enter the conversation as a normal person, this is what you people do at all your trading forums, you constantly make posts as if they were coming from different people when in reality it's just you making the posts.
And what I'm going to do from now on is wake people up to this so they no longer fall for your lies anymore.
I just sold $16,000 in sales in 3 days, why do you think I would care what you think? I just sold a blackjack course and got back an email right away about how they really like my course.
I get emails all the time of people thanking me, what do I care what Jeff who is a Mason thinks? What do I care what you think? Especially in light that you are simply another Mason posing as a real person.
This is what you're doing at all your trading message boards, pretending to be having conversations and then you talk about how I might do something really bad, and how Jeff and Neil might be in danger, and what would you do in that situation. Just like you are here pretending to be a neutral party and trying to get me to stop talking about the Mason's, stop talking about God, stop talking about Satan, another words you want me to stop talking about the truth.
And you will try to use whatever tactic you can possible use to get me to stop, from slander to ridicule to advice, whatever tactic you can think of is what you're going to use.
And has any of it worked? Don't you think I can see through you now? None of it is going to work Freemason's, you have failed.
And while you talk the way you do like this on this board and on the message boards, everyday I get emails talking nothing like you talk whatsoever, even people who have not bought say how nice my website is, and how impressed they are, and how I was able to call out which direction oil would go before it goes there in my videos. And people who buy also send me such nice emails and even call me on the phone.
But what you Mason's want to do is act like you're a normal person now, and try to give me some advice not to act the way I do....
Well Mason's you're the only ones saying that, so I'm not fooled by you.
You people are a pathetic people beyond description, beyond belief, so much so that most people cannot even fathom that you exist.
If it were not for all the things I have been through in this life I wouldn't believe it either. But when I was 5 demons first attacked me and showed themselves to me, and at 6 years old I was attacked again by a demon and he again showed himself to me but this attack was much stronger than the first. And at 12/13 years old I was again attacked by the strongest attack of them all and God himself saved me from this attack.
And I was attacked again by demons another time for playing with an Ouija board.....
My mother was attacked on a regular basis for ten long years for getting into witchcraft....
So as you can see my little Mason friends, this isn't just business anymore, this is personal....
You and your demonic friends are not my masters, and I don't listen to you or play your game or have anything to do with you in anyway shape or form. Nor am I afraid of you in anyway.
Nor am I fooled by you, for I know and understand your ways....
So again, like I said, this isn't just business anymore, this is personal....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#375 General Comment
David - Jeff has a point
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
David,
As an outside observer it does make sense what Jeff is saying. Instead of ranting about God, Satan and masons and all sorts of nonsense why dont you answer the real issues. You sound like a completely hysterical irrational individual with this nonsense.
The point here is if you have cracked the secret code than you should not be getting less than 100% correct trades as a computer code or program will work on an algorithm and if you have cracked it well it cant do anything different.
Anything less than 100% correct and you really have not cracked its algorithm but merely have a system to trade. This than breaks your complete logic about the trades being controlled by a computer.
By you ranting on about God and his wrath on Jeff is rediculous and looks as though you are just adding a smoke screen to your systems short fall.
I really am not against you or that matter for you, im just giving an opinion how an outsider would observe this in a rational view.
Thanks

#374 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Selling Vidoes is NOT "individualized" Advice.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
David is selling the same videos to everyone.
There is nothing "individualized" about that. His videos contain information about HIS system, not anyone else's specific portfolio.
Buy and sell what you want. If you are interested in David's system, check out his videos.
Or just get a life, like the rest of us.

#373 REBUTTAL Owner of company
ROTFLOL Masons
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
Well listen "lawyer" (another word for moron) you can say whatever it is you want to say, I have not broken any laws, if you think I have notify the CFTC or whomever you want to and stop crying about it, would you like a tissue?
The truth is Mason that you don't want me teaching people the entire financial system is under the control of a computer program and doesn't really "trade", you don't want people to know about this and you want me to stop teaching people.
Do you know what I say?
Too bad, suck it up, because now you have no clue what's coming, you have messed with the wrong guy I can just tell you that.
This is the week the Press Releases are going out, this is the week where I'm going to push the s****.>
Your pain Freemasons has only just begun. Your days of scamming and conning people are coming to an end.
And what are you going to do about it? Well I can tell you this, you're going to be more pissed off than you can imagine that much is for sure!
And I'm going to keep dishing it out to you and I'm not going to stop so you do whatever it is you low IQ morons do and try your best to stop me but I can tell you this, I'm more of a man than all of you put together and I can out think all of you put together and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
I play by God's rules, not by Satan's rules......
If you think you can stop God's Witness by all means, go for it......
You now have an enemy Freemason's that you could never have imagined having, somebody with a thousand times your level of intellect.
You know what's funny though and what I'm going to teach people is how all you Freemasons are faggots, soon people are going to wake up to you Satanic freaks and realize they have been lied to all their lives by you freaks.
So the real reason Mason's you are here attacking me is simply because I'm exposing you with my Masonic Code that I broke and because you don't want people to know you've put the entire financial system under the control of a computer program.
Well suck it up, there is nothing you can do except cry and whine and complain like a bunch of little children, maybe we should stick you back into a diaper again?
I don't know who you guys think I am, but I'm well aware of you, I'm aware of you at the Police Station, I'm well aware of you at the FBI, Secret Secret, the Congress, the Senate, the President, don't think I don't know, because I do, and I know EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And do I look scared to you? Am I afraid of you? Is not my address known? Is not my phone number known? Have I ever tried to hide this information?
No I have not, why? Because I'm not afraid of you, on the contrary, it is YOU who is afraid of me, and so you should be, because I'm the biggest enemy you have ever had before.
You say that I will be taken out during the "cleansing", and you are exactly right. That is what is going to happen to me, and I will be with God. And after the cleansing your torment will begin. And at the 7th Seal God himself will deal with you and put you where you belong, the place created for you, "The Hell".....
So you see, it's not me who is afraid, it's you who is afraid. And what I'm going to open peoples eyes to is how much you hate their guts, and how you want to drag everybody you can to Hell. And when somebody like myself starts speaking the truth like this what do you do? You try to ridicule them and discredit them, try to make them look like a fool and crazy in need of help.
Well here I am, God's Witness, here to take the fight to you, right on a silver platter, and not one of you anywhere on planet earth has the brainpower to stop me, and the one who backs me up, his name is "I am", given to Moses, or if you prefer, God. I simply call him "Father" because that's who he told me he was.
So please, keep attacking me over and over again like you have for over a year now, I use each one of these attacks to fuel me more and more, now it's going to be me attacking you, and people all over the world are going to wake up to you and what you've done, and I'm going to make it as painful as I possible can to you, in the EXTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So get ready boys this is the first week it's going to start, up until this time I've simply been building up the ball, preparing it to roll down the hill, now the ball is ready and I'm pushing it down the hill this week. Once it starts nothing can stop it......
Your message boards are history, your forex scam is history, and the separation will begin.....
Where we are going Mason's you cannot come, for there are no liars in God's kingdom, no evil in God's kingdom, so you cannot come. Thank God for that, because if you could then it would be me rebelling against God and not you, for I won't even breath the same air as you filthy disgusting human beings.
Your evil makes me sick to my stomach, and I cannot stand it.....
By the way, I just got a bunch more sales, the thing which you HATE, and the reason why you're here crying your eyes out over what I'm doing, complaining and whining like a little sissy Mason that you are. Let me get you a tissue Mason, wipe your eyes dry, and let me get you a Kleenex, blow your nose, throw some dust on your head and cry out to Lucifer your god and pray for help, although it won't do you any good, I also tell Satan to shut his punk mouth, for he is a chump and a punk who is also afraid of me.
And so you all should be, for I am God's Witness, whom he has raised up and given knowledge to that no man has, for I do not even operate by faith but by knowledge. And I am here to help people, to serve God, and to speak the truth which has been given to me by God.
While you want to hurt people and keep them from the truth, I'm here to help people and lead them to the truth, and to help them financially as well.
And the more you attack me the more people can see you for who and what you are....
So please, keep attacking me, it's playing right into my plan perfectly....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#372 General Comment
"Selling Videos" with "Trading Advice" and "Managing Accounts" You're still bound by regulations.
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
Hey there buddy, no reason to go postal on me, the messenger. It will be funny to see one guy take on 1000's of traders that do this for a living every day just because I asked you a simple question about where you're coming from on this. Honestly, this all proves to me Dave and all his minions (probably just fake accounts from proxy IP's) really didn't do their homework on this before he decided this would be a great way to earn some extra scratch for himself when the blackjack thing didn't pan out.
Didn't mean to start a war with you Dave, you fired the first shot after I saw a youtube video where you could not control your emotions and called an entire industry scum for no good reason other than you admittedly got your *ss handed to you within a week of trading it; don't blame yourself and your inability to master the market, blame the market itself for your failures, but that's another psychological discussion about yourself for another time.
But back to the point, it would be great if you and your followers would actually read the regulations governing the overall industry (futures trading) which you claim to hate so much but in the next breath try and earn a living from by offering "trade advice through videos." You can go on and on about Masons and 32nd degrees and whatever, but by selling trading advice called "a secret code" you become a CTA (Commodity Trading Advisor). If you have sold to more than 15 people in the last 12 months, you are not exempt under CFTC Regulation 4.12b, so I don't see how 3000 word rebuttals on RipOffReport.com or any message board, or any 2 hour long Youtube video that detract from the all important question to your future in selling this secret code which, again, is "ARE YOU CERTIFIED TO BE A CTA and SELL TRADING ADVICE IN ANY FORM - NAMELY THESE VIDEOS ON YOUR WEBSITE?"
Definition of 'Commodity Trading Advisor - CTA'
An individual or firm who provides individualized advice regarding the
buying and selling of futures contracts or options on futures, or
certain foreign exchange contracts. The Commodity Trading Advisor (CTA)
registration is required by the National Futures Association, the
self-regulatory organization for the industry. A CTA acts much like a
financial advisor, except that the CTA designation is specific to
providing advice relating to commodities trading.
Obtaining the CTA registration requires the applicant to pass certain
proficiency requirements, most commonly the Series 3 National Commodity
Futures Exam. However, depending on one's role within a firm,
alternative tests may be used as proof of proficiency. Generally, CTA
registration is required for both principals of a firm, as well as all
employees dealing with taking orders from, or giving advice to, the
public.
Registration as a CTA is required to give advice
regarding all forms of commodity investments, including futures
contracts, forwards, options and swaps. Investments in commodities often
involve the use of significant leverage and as such require a higher
level of expertise to trade properly, while avoiding the potential for
large losses.
Now, I'm not a lawyer, and the wording of the CFTC, NFA, and Dodd-Frank Act makes a lot of heads spin, so, with all kindness and candor, I advise you Dave, instead of throwing a temper tantrum declaring war on people that you don't know just for questioning your methods, talk to a lawyer ASAP to see if you're operating within the boundaries of the law before selling another single video or giving out one other piece of advice to anyone. It will be up to the CFTC to determine if David is someone "who does or does not hold himself out generally to the public as a commodity trading advisor" (that's a biggy and that's for them to decide, not any of your followers or even yourself since you are clearly too emotionally disturbed to answer the question).
For someone with a billion times IQ than the rest of us, it's sad you didn't read the regulations that are readily available on the CFTC website that govern the business you started (you'd think any halfway intelligent person would take this step before opening their business). Sadder yet is that you still operate within the USA, and if you had a modicum of intelligence you'd drive a few hundred miles south and set up a location in Mexico to hock this junk from a place without such stringent regulations.
Either way, I invite any and all persons that find this character David who is claiming to do anyone that disagrees with his methods "serious damage" by handing us "a war on a silver platter" that the CFTC is a bunch of "Freemason Scum" to voice their opinion to the CFTC directly and we'll let the government sort it out ---> https://forms.cftc.gov/fp/tcform.aspx

#371 REBUTTAL Owner of company
God Speaking
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 01, 2012
To Jeff & all Mason's here on this board:
God Speaking:
Revelation 21:7/21:8 (Holy Bible)
He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and w***e mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#370 Consumer Comment
You Adiel... YOU tell me if he can trade
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 01, 2012
Adiel. You are wasting your time. In ALL ATTEMPTS of David to launch a trade room, he has failed, because his system that he touts doesn't work. Do you not think he could run a successful trade room if what he has worked? yes or no?
He has done a number of LIVE webinars trying to demo his system, and of the ones that I attended where he tries to demonstrate his CODE, he is AT OR less than 50% successful. You tell me, does that sound his CODE works?? yes or no?
Finally, forget all of his nutjob rants posted all over the place where you don't have to be a psychologist to determine he is mentally disturbed narcissist and sociopath, but sticking with what proof is available, watch these two videos right ON HIS OWN SITE where he uses two days recently to show he can trade and you tell me if he has a system that works. Remember, he is touting a 90% success system that anyone can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Now, after watching these videos, you tell me if he has a system that works for trading.
Finally, after all the evidence posted on this forum showing clearly David has done nothing but be an internet SPAMMER virtually since internet SPAMMING began, you tell me whether he is an oil trading genius OR just a low life internet marketing SPAMMER. Look at the post by FEELINGLUCKY less than a week ago showing how long David has been an INTERNET SPAMMER. He has been at it a while touting other useless garbage before this one.
First, YOU go through this exercise and then ask any 8 year old to do the same and hear what they say. It is really does not take much of an intellect, must less David's 1000 times intellect, to figure out who and what David is. He is pathetic and he TAKES from society while preaching righteousness which is the very WORST kind of person there is.

#369 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Believe Me
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 01, 2012
Believe me if you were a real person you would either call me on the phone or email me, just like all the hundreds of other of my clients do. You wouldn't come on here and ask me things over a Ripp Off Report board. What you are is a Freemason, pretending to be a normal person, and this is what I'm going to be sending out press releases about. I'm going to show people and explain to people exactly how you operate.
What you do on all your trading message boards such as Forex Factory, Forex Peace Army, Trade2Win, MoneyTec, etc is put on a grand illusion for people that there are a bunch of people there posting, when in reality it's just you posting and pretending to be a bunch of different people.
This is the way in which you operate, and you go around attacking everywhere you possible can, on videos, through email, through a board like this one, through the phone, etc etc.
Another words you are a lying Freemason. And I'm going to expose you to the entire world. No longer will you be able to run your scams anymore, I'm going to put you out of business and get the support of a hundred other legitimate businesses that are also against you and your scam Forex market.
All of you hide behind your evil ways, and good people don't see you for what you are, because of your lies, they don't understand that you are lying. But I will teach them your ways, and teach them who you are, and how you operate, and what you are doing and what you have done, and their eyes will begin to open and they will SEE you for who and what you are.
I have already made $16,000 in sales in 3 days, and that's only from Oil Trading Academy alone.
I have websites being made everyday now and being promoted by a team of people who work for me and now I'm getting sales coming in from these websites as well.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg because this next week comes the Press Releases, there will be Press Releases about the Futures being controlled by a computer, press releases about the Forex market being a scam, press releases about trading forums being a scam and conspiracy run by Freemason's, etc.
Your days of fooling and conning people are quickly coming to an end.
And your days of slandering people are also quickly coming to an end.
And you guys know what the funny part is? It's how you thought you could stop me, or hurt me, ROTFLOL. And all you've done is made me 10 times stronger, making far more money than ever before, and having website owners approach me and start using my material for their websites, some of these websites being some big players.
The word is starting to get out now, and my videos going viral, and it's just the beginning of the show.
You Freemasons think you can just make post after post everywhere all over the Internet and slander me and you think people will believe you, well they are waking up now and seeing through your lies, and they are buying my videos and sending me emails all the time about you, and thanking me, and telling me they see you now thanks to me.
Watch the videos that I do in the near future, I'm going to piece all the pieces of the puzzle together in a mathematical way and prove mathematically exactly what I'm saying here, by showing how you all are the same group of people, how you all use the same exact words in all your posts, say the same exact things, showing that you are all the same people.
What you are is a group of criminals, liars who go around putting on a grand illusion on your trading forums and getting people to click on your banners and then you slander everyone of value in the business so you can try to stop their business and increase your own.
Another words you are sick perverted people, evil by your very nature.
And as the months progress along here you're going to see that the whole entire industry is going to wake up to you and your ways, and your forums will all go out of business soon.
All the while my business will soar, and I'll bring people over to the Futures markets where they can make money and teach them the code so they can take all your Freemason money, thank you Freemasons for putting the Futures markets onto a computer program, we are all getting rich from this thank you.
And I thank you for it personally because it allows me to be a blessing to other people and help them in this life, help them not to be your financial slave and have to work for you, and do what you tell them to do, lie to people for their jobs and degrade their own souls.
Now they can be free, and make as much money as they want to make, and you Freemason's can do nothing about it but whine and complain non stop, would a tissue help you guys? Or perhaps a fresh Kleenex?
You better stock up on your Kleenex boxes because you're going to need a lot of them as the months progress forward because your business is going to start dropping steadily, this next week is when I'm going to start delivering the pain to you.
It's about to get really nasty Freemason's so hold onto something really tight you don't want to lose control of yourselves.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#368 General Comment
David - So why dont you...
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
David,
Im sure you are confident with your system, why not just conduct a webinar and show your stuff as Jeff asks. Proof is in the pudding as they say. My original offer is still on the cards send me the copy im happy to run it on real money and test it out and post all results.
Ranting on about freemasons and stuff just makes you look unprofessional. There is a real solution to show your system, just take a deep breath and think clearly rather than let people get to you.
regards

#367 Consumer Comment
Hi address is
AUTHOR: blahntahtotown - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
251 S GREEN VALLEY PKWY UNIT 4421
Henderson, NV
But of course, you're not going to show up there, because you're just an Internet blowhard. But just in case, here's your chance, tough guy. Go beat up the mentally disturbed man. Then you'll feel like a real hero.

#366 Consumer Comment
Who wants to know where David currently lives
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
I just got off the phone with an individual David met in the last 8 months. He told me that David currently lives here: http://shopthedistrictgvr.com/storeDirectory.php - David, if you are so tough, why don't you send me your address and I'll personally come to meet you so we can chat? Mr. Karate Man. We all know that people who talk about how tough they are usually aren't tough at all.
Please respond with your current address and time to meet.

#365 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff's Posts Getting Dumber And Dumber Now
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
No Jeff I don't want to join evil forces with you, sorry. What you are is a lying punk nothing more, while you pretend to be doing nice things nothing could be further from the truth, you are a criminal and a liar and a con artist and the scum of this world.
And now because of you Jeff and the lies that you have spoken about me on this board now I'm going to take down the entire Forex industry and take down every trading message board on the Internet.
And at the same time I'm going to make a fortune doing it and put all the money back into fueling my fight against you.
And while making all this money and taking down the Forex industry and taking down all the scam trading message boards I will also be teaching about the Freemasons and teaching the Freemasons code that I broke and making videos teaching about the Freemasons and everything that they have done to pervert and subvert the entire world.
I really hope Jeff that all of this was worth it for you to attack me and say lies about me because now you have an enemy that you could not have begun to imagine but that now will manifest itself into a greater enemy than you have ever seen.
Let this be a lesson to you Freemason punks if you mess with the wrong person on this planet this is what's going to happen, next time be more careful on who you select and target for slander.
I guess you Freemason chumps thought I was some mongrel pup, well now this mongrel pup is going to turn into Alexander The Great and I'm coming after the Forex market, trading message boards, and the Freemasons.
I hope it was all worth it to you boys, but as you're going to see in the coming months what you have done is going to backfire on you by 10,000 times.
And while you sit here like pathetic Freemason lying freaks, I am having one website after another be built and promoted. Oil trading Academy was only one website, now I'm going to have 50 websites, all teaching about the Forex all teaching about trading message boards all teaching about Freemasons.
And instead of selling 10 to 20 videos per month now I'm going to sell 100 to 200 videos per month, not because I need or want the money simply because I'm going to use the money to fuel my fight against you to hire all the people that I'm going to hire in my fight against you.
And now my Freemason friends this whole board is a waste of my valuable time, from this point forward my time will be doing good works, and part of those good works is my fight against you to stop you from scamming everybody and stop you from slandering honest people like myself, for you Freemasons are the biggest scumbags the world has ever seen and you Forex people and message board people are the same.
Your time for scamming people is coming to an end and to think you scumbags would have the nerve to call me the scam, well now boys here comes the payback I want you to watch and see what it is I know how to do.
Like I said before if you thought you hated me now just wait and see because I promise you are going to hate me a thousand times more than you currently do 100% guaranteed!
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
7024735823

#364 Consumer Comment
Prove his system.... yeah right
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
Hey guys.
Big weekend this weekend! After the pancake social and fund raiser for leukemia we are gonna continue our plot to take over the world and fend off David from ruining our evil plans! We could use "all hands on deck" because with David we are dealing with a genius like NO OTHER as he operates out of his tiny apartment or his rented room there in Henderson. Come one come all... Join us for some pancakes and help us RULE THE WORLD! But you MUST know the secret handshake or don't even bother! David might try to send in some spies!
Yo Adiel. Interesting offer to PROVE David's system. David can't even prove his system so how are YOU going to prove it! It is commmon knowledge the guy can't operate a trading room without going BUST in 2-3 days and he can't demonstrate his "code" in a webina and he doesn't trade live so I am PRETTY SURE you got your answer...
Hey David. Look at my attachment today. I took a trade last night on a VERY COMMON pattern. This is where the trade is SO FAR going into close. It is 3:30 EST. You wanna market my system? I can do this almost every day. This is today's chart so check it for yourself. We can call it CODE 10 or something. What do you say? You wanna join forces or what??

#363 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Email Forex Scum Will NEVER Get!
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
Here is an email I received this morning and read while I drank my first cup of coffee:
"Hello David,
Thank you very much for the additional help you have provided to me. The support that I have received from you is excellent.
It only shows that truly you want people to succeed. This is in complete opposite in what other people/forums are saying that you are a scam.
Thanks again! God Bless!
Best Regards,
Constantine"
The message that I would like to rely to this board is a very simple one:
1. The Forex people hate my guts because I teach the truth about the Forex market.
2. The Forex market is being run directly by the Freemasons who are pure evil.
3. Trading Forums/Message boards are all 100% scams beyond description.
The Forex people and the message board owners want to say I'm a scam so they can keep on scamming people, so they can get people to stop buying my videos and get people to stay at their boards, learn absolutely nothing, and click on their banners as many times as possible and signup to one of the brokers so that forum can make an automatic $250.
The criminals of life are running these boards, this is the scam taking place.
And now I, David, am going to take the battle to these people and take them out of business. I want all of you to watch how I do this, and witness for yourselves my level of intellect, for I know more than all of you could begin to imagine. But please, don't take my word for it, talk is cheap, give me a few months and I'm going to prove this to you.
You'd be surprised what you can do with a 100 man army combined with the TRUTH....
I'm going to take the entire Forex industry down, and especially all the trading forums....
The war has begun, and I guarantee that I will win this war, because I have the truth on my side, and God on my side.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#362 Consumer Comment
I've Posted my Charts
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
Aidel, I've posted my charts here before.
I don't trade exactly as David does, but my system is based upon his.
I agree, this thread has devolved into ad hominems. That's been going on for awhile.
Is David a crazy person? Well, if a crazy person says the sky is blue, does that make it some other color?
I just don't see the relevance in attacking someone personally.

#361 General Comment
David, Jeff, Neil and all those involved
AUTHOR: Adiel - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 30, 2012
Hi all,
I have been reading this thread with great interest.
It seems to me that a mans livelyhood and business reputation is at stake here. I am not an associate of David nor the individuals refuting his claims, I am neutral in the claims. Although I must say if I ever were interested in his products I would never buy them due to this thread. It also seems logic has been tighed up and thrown overboard and both sides have begun personal attacks and profanity is the order of the day, and this tit for tat can go on forever and quite frankly is becoming extremely unprofessional and childish. A no win situation for both sides.
I do have a solution though, that will settle this once and for all. If on either side someone sends me a copy of the video I will run it for a month and post the results on here, including win loss ratio.
This puts the ball in both courts and if either is not lying or has a more sinister agenda this should be no problem for either party.
I would like to state though if the results I post are positive then an apology is due to Mr David and his business and if the results are negative I think Mr David you should honour a refund to the gentlemen and both be on your way.
If one party does not agree to this challenge, well... it just shows that party is not confident in their claim.
Thank You
Adiel

#360 Consumer Comment
David is not managing anyone's account.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
David is just selling videos, showing how he trades.
He is not managing anyone's portfolio. Therefore he does not need to register with anyone.
Sorry I haven't been following this very closely. I've been busy engaging in productive activity, like most of David's actual customers.
I think if Jeff was really in Forex, he'd have a life. Or at least something constructive to do with his time.
<yawn>

#359 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Forex Scum
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
I'll give you credit, at least you admit to being a forex
scum bag.....
As far as your 32nd degree Mason creation I'm very sorry I don't play your
stupid Mason games, my intellect only goes about a billion times that romper
room game.
Mason Code Financial Markets
CFTC 32 (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) (32nd Degree Mason)
Forex Market 6/13 (Free Masons)
Futures Market 6/13 (Free Masons)
Stock Market 32 (32nd Degree Mason)
So I don't play Mason's silly games of accrediting the Gentiles, but thanks
anyway for your offer.
With respect to the Forex market, let a real scientist enlighten you, the Forex
market is not only controlled by a computer program it's also controlled by a
program with artificial intelligence.
How does that burst your Forex bubble?
And yes just for the record I would like to publicly call you a scam, would
that be okay with you?
I know the entire code to the Forex market and yet I cannot beat it, and my
stops get hit by precisely 6 pips and or 13 pips, another words Freemason.
This is why when you open up a Forex account with $30,000 they will give you
$3000 on top of it because they know you are going to lose that money. If you
were to open a stock trading account they would give you no money, if you were
to open a futures account they would give you no money, it's only when you open
a Forex account do they give you money.
And on top of this the Forex market is unregulated, unlike the stock market and
unlike the futures market. Another words it's a total 100% scam!
And let me tell you something else Mr. Forex guy I'm coming after you and your
whole entire industry with everything I got and I'm going to expose the entire
industry and your message boards with press releases and with blogs and with
posts and with websites.
So here it comes boys you wanted a war you've got yourself a war on a silver
platter with full measure and without mixture.
I really hope you enjoy the taste.
Six months from now you will realize you messed with the wrong person, now here
I come with everything I've got.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#358 Consumer Comment
This is all easily solved by asking David a few questions.
AUTHOR: Bill Roundtree - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
David,
Are you currently registered with the CFTC or NFA to be a financial planner/adviser?
If no, do you think the disclaimer at the bottom of your web pages protects you from the eventual losses your customers will experience when following you and your secret code?
Key word in the last question, CUSTOMERS, and by you claiming in your disclaimer this is for "educational purposes only" you directly contradict yourself by selling access to the "secret code" and now have "clients."
This ties back into question 1, are you currently registered with the CFTC or NFA to advise "clients" on how to trade futures, commodities, or stocks?
As someone that's been in the industry for years I invite you to take the exam(s) necessary to do what you are doing legally but I warn you the moment you mention we are in "the matrix" and you are able to "see a secret code" that no one else sees, red flags will be raised with the CFTC and your chances for being certified will be severely hindered. As is, instead of being certified, you are certifiable.
I am one of those people that you called "scum" for being a Forex trader and yes, the whole industry is laughing at you and alternatively we feel less than sorry for anyone that falls for your phony advise (that you are not certified to give) as you sit there watching a chart go up and down claiming there's a "code" behind it. And the kicker is, we all are wondering why JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs hasn't snatched you up and put you in a room to make them billions off your secret code, instead you're hocking memberships against government regulations for $500 a pop.

#357 REBUTTAL Owner of company
People Are Waking Up Freemason
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
Hello Biffco,
If what you say is true, why not tell me who you are? What are you afraid of?
If I sued you in court wouldn't you win? So why not tell me who you are? Why
attack me here on this board for over a year? If I had spammed you as you say,
why didn't you ever tell me about it? Were you afraid of me? Was sending an
email to me too hard for you? Was calling me on the phone too hard for you?
Instead you thought it better to slander me for over a year here on this board?
And you call me delusional?
It's you who is delusional, not me. And all my videos prove that I have an
intellect far beyond yours, to the point of a joke beyond description. You
cannot even imagine how dumb you are to me, it's beyond your ability to
comprehend let alone even imagine or fathom.
Now Mr. Freemason freak, unlike your pathetic idiotic lies, here is what you
don't want people to see:
Freemason
Code
And here is PROOF I'm not a scam and that you are a first class whopping liar:
Proof Oil
Trading Academy Isn't A Scam
And here is mathematical proof that the Futures markets are controlled by a
computer program:
Futures
Markets Controlled By A Computer Program
And just in case you haven't noticed you stupid Mason that video is now going
viral, and I haven't even released the Press Release yet. When I do the SGHTF
like there was no tomorrow. So what you say you dumb Talmud reading freak is
easy to see that it's a lie, while it's easy to see that I speak the truth. All
you do is make yourself look more and more stupid, and give me more and more
credibility, and at the same time expose yourself through your own stupidity to
the general public.
You are a pathetic joke of a human being, it's no wonder God is going to put
you into Hell, there is nowhere else for you to be in a civilized place for you
are an animal by your very nature, a hideous beast who on the outside tries to
appear normal, but on the inside is a child molesting fa**ot who likes young
boys, who hates God, and who reads the Talmud and calls themselves a Jew but
you are no Jew, you are of the Synagogue of Satan, for no Jew can hate God, on
the contrary, just the exact opposite, while you hate God with a great passion
and worship your god of Lucifer.
And then just like you try to ridicule "Christians" using Neuro
Science you also try to ridicule anybody who speaks the truth about you.
People are waking up Freemason, you cannot keep them in the dark forever, and I
will help wake them up....
What are you going to do about it you low IQ freak? Huh? Can you stop me? No
you cannot, all you can do is cry and whine and complain, do you want a tissue?
How about a Kleenex?
Get mad Mason, make me laugh at you, start speaking your idiotic lies about me
again and say that I need help or that I might do something horrible if I'm not
helped soon, keep saying it you low IQ freak, and watch what happens, watch how
I can make you look like the fool that you are, for I have a thousand times
your level of intellect.
You are nothing to me but a worm of a human being, and now my business and my
message is starting to explode, and it's only just begun.....
You lose Mason, and you will continue to lose for you are a low IQ reject of a
human being....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#356 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Biffco The Freemason Lying Scum
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
Hello Biffco,
If what you say is true, why not tell me who you are? What are you afraid of? If I sued you in court wouldn't you win? So why not tell me who you are? Why attack me here on this board for over a year? If I had spammed you as you say, why didn't you ever tell me about it? Were you afraid of me? Was sending an email to me too hard for you? Was calling me on the phone too hard for you? Instead you thought it better to slander me for over a year here on this board?
And you call me delusional?
It's you who is delusional, not me. And all my videos prove that I have an intellect far beyond yours, to the point of a joke beyond description. You cannot even imagine how dumb you are to me, it's beyond your ability to comprehend let alone even imagine or fathom.
Now Mr. Freemason freak, unlike your pathetic idiotic lies, here is what you don't want people to see:
Freemason Code
And here is PROOF I'm not a scam and that you are a first class whopping liar:
Proof Oil Trading Academy Isn't A Scam
And here is mathematical proof that the Futures markets are controlled by a computer program:
Futures Markets Controlled By A Computer Program
And just in case you haven't noticed you stupid Mason that video is now going viral, and I haven't even released the Press Release yet. When I do the SGHTF like there was no tomorrow. So what you say you dumb Talmud reading freak is easy to see that it's a lie, while it's easy to see that I speak the truth. All you do is make yourself look more and more stupid, and give me more and more credibility, and at the same time expose yourself through your own stupidity to the general public.
(((REDACTED)))
And then just like you try to ridicule "Christians" using Neuro Science you also try to ridicule anybody who speaks the truth about you.
People are waking up Freemason, you cannot keep them in the dark forever, and I will help wake them up....
What are you going to do about it you (((REDACTED))) Huh? Can you stop me? No you cannot, all you can do is cry and whine and complain, do you want a tissue? How about a Kleenex?
Get mad Mason, make me laugh at you, start speaking your idiotic lies about me again and say that I need help or that I might do something horrible if I'm not helped soon, keep saying it you (((REDACTED))), and watch what happens, watch how I can make you look like the fool that you are, for I have a thousand times your level of intellect.
You are nothing to me but a worm of a human being, and now my business and my message is starting to explode, and it's only just begun.....
You lose Mason, and you will continue to lose for you are a (((REDACTED)))..
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#355 Consumer Comment
No, it was you spamming, David.
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
Of course it was you spamming comments sections. There was no affiliate code in the links -- they were just links to your site, period. If it were affiliates doing it, there was no way for them to be credited and paid. So, it was you.
Of course, I'm talking to a man who seems to actually believe that the world is dominated by Satan-worshiping freemasons who control global commodities prices with a computer. So, for all I know, you might actually believe it wasn't you doing the spamming. But, just for the record, of course it was. You're an isolated man in a sad apartment in suburban Las Vegas, trying desperately to make money from various Internet schemes because you can't hold a job. And you can't hold a job because you have unaddressed mental problems. If you've ever had "affiliates," which I doubt, you either didn't pay them or you scared them off with your crazy.

#354 Consumer Comment
Mason's
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
David,
Why not just relax and get back on your medication.
And David, you are in no danger from the Mason's until the cleansing begins. If your actions were any threat to us, you would simply cease to exist, its that simple. You and your "students", not a one is manipulating any of the markets, blackjack tables, etc. But the entertainment you provide us is priceless, keep up the good work.
Oh, and your "living god". This god of your's, if he's living, he's been hiding in cowardliness for a long time now. When might we expect your god to come out of hiding?
L^33

#353 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Biffco
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
I forgot to add Biffco, if I ever find out who you are, it's going to be ME taking YOU to court for slander against me here on this board. The truth is I know more than you could possibly begin to imagine, and I speak the truth about all things, while it's you who is the first class 33rd degree Mason liar.
My videos all provide mathematical proof of everything I say, and yet you call me delusional? Why? Because sir you are the enemy, a Freemason, the worker of iniquity, the enemy of all mankind, a liar and deceiver, a Talmud reading freak that you are.
And if you ever reveal your identity which you are too much of a coward to do I'm going to take you to court and sue you.
But you won't tell me who you are because you are a sissy boy Mason....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#352 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Biffco
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Biffco, if you are truly serious about this:
"I complained here because this guy was spamming a bunch of Web sites I
write for, including on articles I've written. I haven't seen him
lately, so maybe he's stopped that."
You need to let me know. Have you called me on the phone regarding this? No you haven't. You need to tell me where these places are so that I can track down who was doing this? Do you have a handle or name or something like that?
I can assure you it wasn't me, it was some affiliates of mine who obviously don't know anything about affiliate marketing, trying to run an affiliate marketing program is a nightmare come true. I have not posted at any places, especially articles, how do you write on an article?
I can assure you it wasn't me doing this, and if you wanted me to stop it you need to TELL me, hello? How can I know what is going on if you don't tell me?
But at this point Biffco I don't have an affiliate program anymore, it was taken down somehow and disappeared from the server, so nobody is out trying to post anymore for the website and hasn't for a long time now. So I don't think you need to worry about it anymore but seriously if something like that were to happen to you then you should contact the person and let them know, if then they don't do anything about it then you have a valid claim.
Another words what I'm trying to say is give the person a fair chance first, you are the only person who has ever complained about this before, except I may have gotten another complain once by email but realize that I get all kinds of crazy emails all the time.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
P.S. With respect to your comments that I'm delusional or whatever, I'll just take it that you are well stuck within the Matrix and don't realize it and that's perfectly ok with me....

#351 Consumer Comment
seriously....
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
You people are worse than he is. Don't you see that by signing on with this obviously shady program, you have all revealed yourselves to be MORONS? You can say all you want about the guy, and a lot of it is probably true, but he still got the better of you. And now all you can do is come in here and try to insult him, etc. What do you get out of it? It isn't going to get you your money back, and you either have learned not to fall for such obvious scams (or weirdo conspiracy theories or whatever this is), or you haven't. But every time you post, you are simply yelling to the world "Hey, look at me, I'm an idiot!"
I complained here because this guy was spamming a bunch of Web sites I write for, including on articles I've written. I haven't seen him lately, so maybe he's stopped that. But in reading all this and watching his videos, I learned that the guy is clearly mentally ill. He has severe delusions, among other things. So leave him the f**k alone, or take him to court. Seriously, you are WORSE than he is at this point.

#350 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Why Say Something So Stupid?
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Why do you ask for my address here on this board? Are you too much of a sissy boy to give me a phone call like a man would do? When you grow up and become a man you let me know by giving me a phone call and letting me know you're in town, then I will be happy to meet up with you in person and then you can tell me whatever it is you want to tell me.
But come on now, just as you are a punk lying sissy boy on this board you and I both know you aren't going to meet up with me, nor are you going to call me, why? It's because at your very heart you are a sissy boy, that's why, you are not a man, you are a sissy beyond description or comprehension.
And now a real man is taking it to you and everyday new people are learning of the code and learning about the Mason's.
Suck it up because it's going to get 10,000 times worse as the months progress forward, you're going to find out that I'm unlike any other human being you have ever heard of, ever read about, or talked to, and you are about to find that out. And what weapon will I use? Simply the truth, nothing more, your ultimate mortal enemy....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#349 Consumer Comment
Who wants to know where David currently lives
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
I just got off the phone with an individual David met in the last 8 months. He told me that David currently lives here: http://shopthedistrictgvr.com/storeDirectory.php - David, if you are so tough, why don't you send me your address and I'll personally come to meet you so we can chat? Mr. Karate Man. We all know that people who talk about how tough they are usually aren't tough at all.
Please respond with your current address and time to meet.

#348 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Masons Sure Are Dumb
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Yes I'm well aware of your idiotic beliefs. Just watch when you see the living God, I've been in his presence and when you see him you will be sorry for what you've done.
And I won't be hurt at your Lodge? ROTFLOL, I hate to tell you this but I could walk into your Lodge and easily beat all of you up at the same time without hardly any effort on my part whatsoever. You pose no threat to me in any way.
Here is the bottom line Mason, you cannot stop me, you wish you could but you cannot, and now that you've pissed me off now you're going to pay, because now I'm going to teach both the code and about you at the same time, a thousand times what I've already done and there is nothing you can do about it.
That's what I call humor....
And then when the 7th Seal is opened God's wrath upon you will be manifest, and you will be where you belong, the place created specifically for you, the place you look forward to going, the place called "The Hell".....
Now that's what I call humor, and justice....
And just so you know, not one of you has the balls to face me in person, you know it and I know it, because you know that I can easily beat anybody up you send.
And by the way, the next time a guy you send pulls out a handgun on me this time I'm not going to stop, I'm going to take him out this time with my bare hands using Jeet Kune Do....
You have been warned in advance Mason, don't say I didn't warn you....
In a few months I'll have a team of 100 people working for me, and I'm coming after you punks, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
7024735823

#347 Consumer Comment
Let me translate for David
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Basically David is saying, "you think I have been spamming for the last 15 years, you ain't seen NOTHING yet!" Essentially now you are saying David, that your name is so soiled on the internet for ripping people off that you are now using that information and reinventing yourself so we don't know it is you and you will SPAM SPAM and SPAM some more like we have NEVER seen right?
I believe I predicted you would eventually take this course of action many months ago as it was inevitable you would do so, so that is no surprise. You are nothing but a lowlife internet SPAMMER and you are FINALLY ADMITTING it for once and your retaliation for being this low life is to be a MUCH LARGER LOWLIFE! Big surprise there David.
So basically in this venture thanks to some research done by various people along the way, we have learned 1) you have had a long and very extensive life of being an internet marketer/spammer. 2) We have learned you have never made money with any of your systems you tout and you readily admit that and have demonstrate that on multiple occasions 3) We have learned you lost your Russian bride many years ago as she couldn't take who you were and that was probably a pivotal moment that had you begin hating humanity so you developed this fantasy world of yours 4) We have learned, by your own admission, you are a shut in that has no friends in the world and you rationalize this by being a superior being on the planet and live in the fantasy world of conspiracy theories where you are a God while you peddle your silly CODE, which I believe, as of today, you said there are like 7 codes now that change ALL THE TIME etc...
That is what we have learned about you David. It is intriguing to learn of your extensive history of spamming the internet to the point where it is undeniable and apparently, not only aren't you denying it, but you are planning one doing it more than ever.
You are a loser David. A sorry, pathetic, lonely, short, chubby, loser

#346 Consumer Comment
Masonic Truth
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
David,
I'm afraid the money you scam, whatever army you can present, and whatever God you pray to, will not save you. If you know anything at all about us, then you know we can't be stopped and you commoners are doomed. While you and the rest of the commoners are trying to scam a buck and worry about codes, we are positioning ourselves to dominate this world. That day is coming very soon, so please keep making those videos, and I promise those videos will be preserved when this planet is cleansed of the commoners. We may be evil, but we also love humor.
PS - please reconsider our offer to join us for pancakes. I guarantee we make the very best pancakes and it would be a true honor to have you as a guest in our lodge. I promise no harm will come to you and no threats. Just some good eats and laughs!!
L^33

#345 REBUTTAL Owner of company
50 websites
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Actually Mason I have 50 websites coming online, each of them will teach the code for the Futures markets and teach about the Mason's and how evil they are. What you have done to me here on this board you will pay for by 100,000 times......
To think you low IQ lying human beings who worship Lucifer would have the nerve to attack me like this now you're going to pay. Here comes the Press Releases, here comes the websites all over the world, here comes teaching millions about you, and getting another 50,000 traders to learn of the code, and where I start making 100,000 per month teaching the code.
And what will do you? Keep saying the same stupid lies about me. Can you follow me into all my other websites? Do you know which ones are mine?
No you cannot, therefore you lose....
Here comes the pain my little Mason friends, pain like you cannot begin to imagine......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
7024735823

#344 UPDATE EX-employee responds
OMG David Kuvelas at the Oil Trading Academy is a SCAM!
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Just in case anyone missed it... David is also a "professional" blackjack player who has been playing for 14 years. View his comments in the this thread:
http://www.hitorstand.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-589.html
Further you will also see that if you pay for a subscription you can see that David Kuvelas has registered over 27 domains! what type of individual needs 27 domains??? I know, an internet marketer. He doesn't make money because his system works, he simply makes money because he markets all over the fricken world and takes advantage of a lot of people.
http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?all[]=David+Kuvelas&none[]=
And if you don't believe David is an internet marketer, view this link- apparently he is well versed in gaining traffic from popular searches which is why he can be found peddling so many different products: http://superaff.com/archives/2005/11/23/moving-away-from-search-engine-traffic-and-toward-independence/
Here David is an expert on Satellite TV : http://www.articleexposure.net/article91757.html
Here David was the author of yet another trading site: http://www.articleexposure.net/article186187.html
Here you can see he is a debt specialist: http://www.articleexposure.net/article180569.html
Another site from David: http://www.pageinsider.com/forex-trading-courses.com
I could go on and on showing everyone how David is a master internet marketer and probably the worst conspiracy theorist of all time....but, I don't want to bore anyone any further.

#343 Consumer Comment
Sooo... Is that a NO on the talent show then???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Let me know David. I seriously think your CLOWN act could be a hit too! I know I know... Its not an act. I know that and YOU know that but the crowd won't know that! Come on by this Tuesday for the potluck. We will eat some good food, drink some drinks, and discuss the new supercomputer we are programming to control the FOREX markets! You in or what??

#342 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Big Mistake Masons
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
By showing me it's you attacking me, you've made a big mistake. Now I'm going to attack you all day long everyday using my level of intellect, you cannot imagine what I can do to you. And I'm going to hire a team of 100 people to assist me. Now I'm going to teach everyone in the world about you, all over the entire world, and expose you for exactly what you are, and I'm going to make a fortune doing it at the same time.
And here is the funny part, there isn't anything you can do to stop me......
Like I said before, if you goofballs think you hate me now you've haven't seen anything yet, you're going to hate me more than you might imagine really soon.
I'm going to make your lives miserable from this day forward.....
You think people are just dumb and won't wake up to you? History repeats itself, and they are going to wake up once again, then what will you do?
You know something, you Freemason's aren't even good enough to walk on the same ground that I do, or breath the same air that I breath, God may allow your existence but I cannot tolerant you, and from now on the war is on, and I can take on 1,000 of you by myself very easily, your all a bunch of low IQ reject human beings going around doing nothing but evil everywhere you go. Watch what I can do, it's called the TRUTH, something which you cannot stand.
Now I'm going to teach the truth every single day of my life from this day forward, and you're going to freak out.....
Watch the TRAIN WRECK of Jeff the clown Mason.......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#341 Consumer Comment
OK OK you got me...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Since scambuster revealed himself I must as well. You really have no idea who you are messing with David. I am a mason of the highest order! That means not only to I oversee the pancake socials, but also the poker games and I am on the parade committee! Now you know who you are messing with so watch your step! I even stopped on of those FBI guys in his tracks the other day.... Cuz he loved the smell of the blueberry pancakes and had to stop by. He couldn't resist. We make GOOD pancakes!
Hey David, we are doing a fund raiser in a few weeks down at the lodge and part of what we are doing is a talent show and I know talent when I see it! I was thinking you could demonstrate your artistic skills (being a Bullsh-t Artist) or perhaps do some improv comedy or maybe dance? You say you have never done improv before? Don't even worry about it! Just pretend you are doing an online webinar as you have done so many times and take queues from the audience and as they ask you questions, you do your best tap dancing routine (comedy and dance!! WOW!!) that you do so well! There is a trophy involved that stands about as tall as you (about 5 feet tall) so I am sure you would love to put that next to some of your mirrors that you have arond your apartment (so you can look at yourself being as you are so handsome right David?) or whatever you are living in nowdays being the millionaire you are.
What do you think? Truce? Come join us. You can be an honorary Mason for a night and see what we are about!

#340 Consumer Comment
The laugh continues
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Davids webinar today was another classic comedy, I hope you didnt miss it!
Now, for those who didn't catch the humor in David's last post:
He states that Jeff is doing nothing but helping his sales. Then later on in the post he states he is going to sue Jeff for lost sales. This just a small example of his comedy.
And David, do you honestly think the FBI is made up of commoners like yourself?
Hint: You haven't even scratched the surface concerning the Masons.

#339 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff Lies Yet Again
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
By the way Jeff, one day I'm going to find you, and when I do I promise you that you're going to wish you had never been born.
I have just gotten 5 more sales totaling another $3,000, so that makes so far today $9,000 that I've made in one day, and the day still isn't over with yet.
And on top of this Jeff, I've gotten about 15 emails of people thanking me for the Webinar today, for teaching them and showing them something of such great value.
While you continue to lie through your teeth.
When God puts you into Hell to suffer eternal punishment I will be so happy, I cannot wait for this Jeff, and as God's witness I can assure you that's exactly where you are headed, straight to Hell where you belong. I have never seen or witnessed a greater evil human being than you, you take the cake that's for sure.
And not only are you no longer having any effect in your slandering against me, on the contrary, now you are helping me because everyone can see that you are trying so hard to discredit me for over a year now, and they realize that what I'm offering has such great value to it that you would go out of your way for so long to slander me you're now giving what I'm offering such value by default, because of what you're doing. Because everyone can see now that you wouldn't do this if what I had was a scam, you only do it because what I have is the exact opposite of a scam.
Now people can easily see this Jeff, as my sales clearly show. So nobody believes you anymore.
And I now have website after website being made, and I'm going to make $100,000 per month in just a few months from now. All because of you......
So I guess I have you to thank for all of this Jeff, you have pissed me off to the point now where I'm selling more videos than ever before and teaching and helping more people than ever before and teaching people about trading message boards that they are scams and teaching people about the Forex that's it's a scam market and teaching people about the Mason's and that they have done.
And now that I know you don't like me giving Webinars at Online Traders Central I'm going to give one every week from now on just to piss you off.
Whoever you are Jeff, I'm going to find you, and when I do you are going to get a lesson that you will never in this life forget.
It's just a matter of time Jeffry, I have Online Traders Central looking for you now, and I'm going to find you, I have every IP there today, and one by one I'm going to go through them and find you, it doesn't matter how many fake proxies you are behind, I will find the originating IP one by one and even if you're hiding behind 20 of them I'm going to track you down now, and I'm going to find you, and when I do that will be the worst day of your entire pathetic life, mark my words for I make you a promise and mathematical guarantee right here and right now today.
I now have the mathematics to find you, and now I'm going to, and no amount of money will be spared in this effort, my life's mission now is to find you and personally make you pay for the slander you have said about me, and mark my words Jeff, I'm going to find you, and then you will pay....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#338 Consumer Comment
Was just on the webinar
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
I only caught the second half but as expected, he was going NUTZ and was screaming into the microphone and a number of people were asking logical questions that he couldn't answer. It sent him into his predicted hysterics. Yo Biffco, he IS a brilliant marketer in fact. Marketing is KEY to get attention of the desperate. I bought this at a time when I was not that familar with trading but after I got the videos, and then analyzed charts for hours and days and weeks, it was easy to figure out it was a scam.
Now, if I had experience before that, I would have laughed just like anyone else with experience on FF or FPA for instance. But he RELIES on the naive to buy his crap just like the same people that sell p***s pills etc. Those people make MILLIONS by running infomercials and continue to when obviously none of that works. They offer a guarantee with restrictions etc, but as long as you do what you are supposed to do, you can get a refund. So while it is crap, you CAN get a refund and they rely on only a certain percentage bothering to ask for one etc.
The difference between David and master marketers of p***s pills, is he doesn't honor his refund policy that he actually USED to have because when you prove it doesn't work, he just says you are full of sh-t and doesn't refund you. That's his whole mission in life and I enjoy taking him down for the piece of crap that he is.
I hope folks got on today at my prodding... Surely you were entertained. I notice today he didn't try to demonstrate his ability to trade. Gee, I wonder why?? I put him on he hotseat and he didn't want to risk it obviously as he is 50/50 at BEST in showing he has something. BOTTOM LINE

#337 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You Slipped Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
You screwed up Jeff, now I know who you are. You are Travis in San Diego, and I know your address. And you didn't buy my videos, you had your metro-sexual half black/white friend buy them from me. The guy who goes around Craigslist conning people into investing into the Forex market and then rips them off.
Now I know who direct to the FBI to Jeff, and I know your address in Santee California, San Diego is my home. My sister lives in Santee. I used to race motorcycles in Santee.
Now I'm going to come and see you in person Travis, and then we'll see what you have to say. And here comes the lawsuit, if you thought your life was messed up before losing all your money and getting into an accident where you no longer can move properly, you haven't seen anything yet you loser, now here comes the lawsuit against you, of which I will be suing you for $100,000 in lost sales.
I knew you would eventually screw up, and here you have done so, now I got you. And your metrosexual friend will also be in prison soon as I'm going to testify everything I know about him and the money he as stolen.
All this time it wasn't even the Freemason's doing this to me, it's two punks that go around ripping people off that wanted me to trade for them and when I said no they became angry.
Travis is polish, and now he's going to learn a lesson in this life that is going to be very painful to learn.
Not only will you be sued Travis, but I'm going to have a citizens arrest placed upon you.
The nightmare for you Travis is about to begin, and I'm going to come after you with everything I got now. You lost all your money, now you're going to lose your freedom to go along with it.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#336 REBUTTAL Owner of company
It's Funny Jeffry
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
I just woke up Jeff to $4,000 in sales from Oil Trading Academy, and $2,000 in sales from my other websites, that's $6,000 in sales and the day isn't even over yet.
And what do you do? Sit here and speak lies about me day in and day out, ROTFLOL......
You are hilarious Jeff, you really are, never in my life have I encountered a loser of a person like you in this life.
And by the way, who cares that you don't like me? Do you know of anybody who cares? I don't, do you? In fact Jeff I don't know of anybody who cares anything about what you say, on the contrary, people laugh at you. People send me emails laughing at you, maybe you aren't aware of this?
What I find funny though is here you are trying your best over and over to discredit me, and all that's happening now is I'm getting more sales than ever before, and at the same time taking down the Forex market and trading message boards.
And what do you do? Talk about how you don't like me, ROTFLOL.....
One day I'm going to learn who you are, and I will laugh so hard when I see you.....
To say that you are a loser is the biggest understatement somebody could make in this life.
And the funny part is how you think you're hurting me, ROTFLOL.....
You Freemason's are going down, you should see how many people are saving my Masonic Code Broken page, it's going viral now....
And just think, what's coming next is truly going to astonish you and make you more angry than your little Masonic pea brains are capable of imagining.
Watch and see my little Freemason friends....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#335 Consumer Comment
no
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
"David is a very good marketer"
No he's not. He's transparently a lunatic, and his product is, on the face of it, ridiculous. That's even if you buy into the idea that people can have legitimate "programs" and "systems" to help you "beat the market." All such things are ripoffs, of course. But in this case, he's selling it based on the idea that a "computer" designed by "The Masons" (and the Jews? I'm not real clear on the theory here) is controlling world commodity markets. And for that, you gave him money, and now you're pissed off that it didn't work for you. You did this to yourself.
By continuing to post here about how you got duped by this obvious scam, you're simply embarrassing yourself further. And you're doing it out of the pettiest and most childish of motivations. David is clearly a disturbed -- probably psychotic - person. Even if that weren't the case, making a hobby out of needling someone online shows that you have some serious issues of your own.
You got conned by a crazy person who actually persuaded you to send him hundreds of dollars based on some lunatic theory. If you want to keep calling attention to that fact, well -- be my guest, I suppose. But you're no better than he is.

#334 Consumer Comment
Actually... This is more for my entertainment
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
I genuinely don't like David.
If he just sold garbage, like A LOT of people do like himself, but just refunded those that complained without issue, I would have NO PROBLEM with him. There are A LOT of people in the business of ripping people off, they know it, but it is just a numbers game to them. They know that MOST people will be embarrassed or the price point isn't worth the bother or the refund procedure is so monotonous that they won't ask for a refund. BUT AT LEAST THEY HONOR IT WHEN IT IS ASKED FOR. David is a very good marketer promising something that is too good to be true, because it is, and even calling it a CODE that he figured out etc. Then having a price point that people won't complain about when they lose it unlike some scammers of bogus trading systems that charge thousands etc.
The thing about DAVID is, I believe he is a human piece of garbage because he not only rips you off, but he laughs at you and calls you names when you professionally and kindly ask him to provide a refund or AT LEAST SHOW what it is you are missing since what he is teaching is clearly not true and I offered to show that to him on any day at any time. I mean, it is 50/50 at best. No better than flipping a coin as far as what he teaches. Instead of doing so, he rips you a new one and calls all kinds of names and literally screams like a maniac in doing so. That is what pisses me off about this loser.
I just like getting him riled up because he is such a pathetic loser and I know this makes him crazy. So it is pure entertainment for me at this point. That is why I encourage people to partake in his webinar tomorrow. They can enjoy his egomanical personality just as I do. He should be happy I am bringing people to him.
Travis
P.S. you know, one of David's supporters or David's alter egos said earlier that the market is nothing more than often times repeating pattern over and over again and you just have to look for those patterns and the chances those will happen.. Guess what... EXACTLY. It has been that way for decades and decades. This information is for free in a hundred trading books or online trading forums. The question is whether you can recognize them and then react appropriately and trade them. David clearly cannot even though he uses the language where he is CLEARLY a pattern trader, but he just isn't good at it. He simply calls it a CODE like it is some secret, which it clearly is not, otherwise he would be a successful trader. David is nothing more than a theoretical guy that can't practice what he preaches and therefore SELLS stuff to make a living but he certainly doesn't use it himself as he readily admits.

#333 Consumer Comment
Yeah, but Jeff....
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 26, 2012
If I'm not mistaken, you sent the guy $400 to learn his "trading secrets," right? And have since spent months, or years, complaining about the fact that this guy -- who claims the futures markets are controlled by a computer program written by "the Masons" - ripped you off. Right? If I were you, I'd just forget about it. Either file a lawsuit or let it go. And maybe not fall for the next obviously scammy get-rich-quick scheme.

#332 REBUTTAL Owner of company
It's Funny Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 26, 2012
It's funny Jeff, while you're here constantly lying about me for over a year now, I have one new website coming online every day, and already I've gotten more sales than I have ever gotten before. And at the same time my subscribers for YouTube is steadily increasing and my Mason Code Broken page is all over the Internet now where people from everywhere are learning
about you, and I'm getting emails all the time now of people who realize that trading message boards are 100% scams.
And what's truly funny Jeff is how I have you to thank for all of this, it's only because of you that I have done this, and this is only the beginning too. I have a press release being issued about the entire Futures markets coming out, I have press releases coming out about Forex Factory, Forex Peace Army, and the entire Forex market. Ripp Off Reports are coming under every message board you have Jeff, and so are videos explaining to people what you're all about, and the fact that you Freemason's are behind the entire Forex market where you con and ripp people off for a living.
The whole entire Forex market will be completely discredited because of me.
And what I'm doing is all because of you. So you yourself will be your own undoing without you having the brainpower to even understand.
And while you discredit me here it obviously is no longer working anymore as I'm now getting more sales than ever and my save to favorites shoots through the roof and my YouTube videos gain even more popularity and I continue to get more and more subscribers.
All the while you sit here sounding like a first class whopping moron beyond belief, saying the same things over and over again like some kind of backwards low IQ reject of a human being. All the while I have one website going online after another with a team of people pushing it for me. Thousands and thousands of more people are going to learn about the Freemason's, and the Forex market, and you are going to go down because of your own stupidity.
One has to laugh at you Jeff, you are a joke beyond all description or understanding, and a sissy to go along with it, ROTFLOL. You are to be made fun of Jeff, you and Biffco, both of you are jokes beyond belief thinking you could stop me, ROTFLOL.
Soon nobody anywhere is going to trade the Forex market, and soon people all over the place are going to wake up to the Freemason's and what you've done. And soon nobody will ever go to a trading message board again because they will
know they are scams run by criminals like yourself.
You know Jeff it's funny, I've been around the sun now 45 times and never in my entire life have I heard the likes of you, you are not even a human being, you are a worm at best.
Funny how you thought you could hurt me, and all you've done now is make me ten times better than I've ever been, making more money and selling more videos than I ever thought possible before.
You are a clown Jeff.....
It's too bad the FBI won't put you into prison where you belong, but in any case I really don't care anymore, there is nothing you can do to hurt me anymore, now all you are is a bad joke.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
P.S. The only person desperate around here is you, posting and lying about me for an entire year, you are desperate beyond belief or description, and your desperation is going to turn into panic really soon.....

#331 Consumer Comment
David is getting more desperate!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 26, 2012
David is doing a webinar tomorrow which are always entertaining as he can't be on the microphone more than 5 minutes before making a fool of himself. I highly advise people to see for yourself his 90% accuracy and how he is MAKING PEOPLE RICH... Of course, as he FULLY ADMITS, he doesn't trade, he only sells garbage. That is how HE IS GETTING RICH according to him... Check it out for yourself though...
This Webinar will show you mathematical proof that the entire Futures markets are under the control of a computer program, so that the price and direction of all Futures instruments are controlled in advance by a computer program. In other words, there is no "trading" occurring within the Futures markets, a computer program is controlling the price and direction in advance. I'm a scientist and broke the entire Futures markets code.
You can watch a video proving this mathematically here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXguKIOXDHM
The Oil market has two codes to it, which makes it unique, all markets have a Code 1 and you can learn more about Code
1 **HERE** The Oil market specifically has a Code 2 to it, which is even more powerful than just Code 1, where traders are becoming RICH by using it, you can learn more about Code 2 **HERE**
If you'd like to read about what others are saying about Code 1 go **HERE** If you'd like to read what others are saying
about Code 2 go **HERE**
If you have questions about these Code Videos go **HERE**, and they might already be answered for you!
Here is a video done just last night making the big call on Oil before it happened, showing the power of knowing Code 2,
which is making traders around the world become RICH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRLPhWLoRJc
If you'd like to get the best deal and buy both Code 1 and Code 2 together, go **HERE**
Don't miss this opportunity in your life to take advantage of this information...I have broken the entire Futures markets
code, and have even broken Code 2, which is SO powerful, when you see it, you will fall straight out of your chair in 100% disbelief!
I look forward to seeing you at this free Webinar, and showing you this LIVE...where you can ask me questions, and I'll
be happy to answer them, and where I'm going to show this to you in even more detail!
Happy Trading!
David Oil Trading Academy Website: www.OilTradingAcademy.com
You can go to ONLINETRADERCENTRAL to check out how to login for his webinar. I promise you, it will be entertaining. There will be about a 50/50 chance he will be profitable this time as that is about as good as his system is. But I do promise you that you will LEARN NOTHING but WILL BE ENTERTAINED about how he IS as far as his narcissistic demeanor. Check it out! Yes... I am encouraging people! How about that David?

#330 Consumer Suggestion
Comment on your video
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 11, 2012
David,
This is what you are doing.....you are logging into various different proxys and creating posting id's and probably sending yourself money so you have a real looking paypal account.
the truth is simply that you cannot trade...you've never been able to trade!!!!!these are all facts.

#329 Consumer Suggestion
Please make a video about me and my posts david
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 11, 2012
You are so pathetic. Who on this earth has as much time as you clearly do to make all of these videos and write post after post? Can you please make a video of the person you gave 10k to for giving Jeff's info? thanks so much

#328 Consumer Comment
SPAMMING KING IN FULL THROTTLE. YET HE CAN'T TRADE!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 11, 2012
the ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS is that David can't prove he can trade live and make money with his system consistently. Whenever he has tried to have a live trading room or anything to demonstrate he has something FOR REAL, he fails. He even admits that. Furthermore, inexplicably he actually SHOWS you two days of his attempts to trade PROVING he can't trade... Don't believe me? Here you go... RIGHT HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Finally he ADMITS he doesn't make money trading the market but selling his videos
If anyone can watch those videos of him failing at trading, read these absolutely irrefutable facts right here and hundreds of other posts, watch all of his videos - YES I AM INVITING YOU TO - on his youtube channels and see he is a lunatic, then they deserve to get ripped off by him
THOSE ARE ALL FACTS. David doesn't speak in facts. He speaks and lives in a world of fantasy to cope with his sad insecurities. Watch his stuff and see for yourself. See if he can do 90% success as he says! Or is is less than 50%? You decide!

#327 REBUTTAL Owner of company
NOT A SCAM
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 11, 2012
I'm a customer of Davids
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 09, 2011
I bought David's videos and also did a weeks worth of advanced training with David.
I've also been smeared on this web site, so when I saw that David had been by a person who "smelled a rat" whatever that means, I had to speak up in his defense.
I spent money with David, around $750.00 so I know what he delivers, unlike this loser who "smells a rat".
Based on my objective experience with David, I think he is somewhat eccentric in his beliefs and in the manner in which he conducts his trainings. But, I also believe that he delivers a valuable product on the subject of oil trading. I got a lot out of it.
Only cowards go online and make unfounded statements that hurt innocent people trying to enlighten others and make a living.
I smell a rat too, and it's the guy who took the time to smear David with the most ridiculous post I've ever read. Ask yourself why a person would do such a thing.
My guess is he has a competing product or service and this is his cheap way of crushing the competition.
Think about it, would an ordinary person with other important things to do single out David and make this pathetic remark about his product knowing absolutely nothing about it?
My name is Scott, and I approved this message
#5 Consumer Comment
I'll second that
AUTHOR: Sam - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 18, 2011
I'll second the challenge David made to the loser calling himself biffco.
As one who has also been slandered by scum like biffco who always stay anonymous and simply put out cowardly and incomplete statements only for the purpose of putting doubt in people's minds, I will second the challenge made by
David.
I challenge you to reveal your cowardly self. We know this will never happen, because you live in the dark shadows and not even your wife knows you. You have secrets and and incompetent opinions just like the one you anonymously express about David. You know nothing and you do nothing.
I have no doubt you work in a dingy cubicle or other horrible place and hate life.
I have no doubt that you are impotent and spend most of your time in a jack booth or in porn sites secretly and anonymously fantasizing about things you don't have the balls to go after.
David and I are different. We have opinions based on reality and study.
We make things happen and we offer products to people to make their lives better. We offer solutions and we don't hide from the world like miserable scum like you biffco.
I am free, and David is free because we produce value for ourselves, and others. You are puke and produce nothing for yourself nor anyone else and because of this your life is pathetic and you, even though probably in denial about it, secretly know it, and it is that knowledge that prevents you from being a real man, from being able to argue with an intellect like Davids in the open, from being able to satisfy a woman, and from being unafraid of life.
Stay in the dark, that's where you belong. Or reveal yourself, David is not hiding from you, because he knows there is no escaping you. Scum like you will always be there spewing all your garbage anonymously as you have done
here against David.
#7 Consumer Comment
David is NOT A SCAMMER!
AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 28, 2011
I cant understand why you people gave a negative feedback to David like his a great scammer and insecure guy, etc. I bought his oil trading video a year ago and my experienced was different of yours. I knew David as representative of his product we do communicate for business transactions. Since I bought the video from him I had lots of question how to use the code and its function and sincerely he replied all my concerns.
I almost gave up because of my small knowledge of trading and I earned less from what I expected but that time David was my friend and he really guided me and step by step he instructed me. And because of my determination to earn I was able to earn more through constant practice.
I was amazed when he introduced to me the blackjack strategy and I realized he is a great genius. I told my uncle about blackjack who used to play in casino and my uncle grabbed one of the videos and it was worked well. I didnt hear any bad complaint from my uncle by then, but he just gave a big THANK YOU to me and especially to David.
Truly, David is a good guy and his concern to everybody. Tell me, who are the hackers that discovered something then shared it to others for its advantage? Answer? theres none, only David did. So, why you people got mad and
angry for him to think you have its beneficial part? I think you just had a miscommunication to him and because you need to prosper that fast but you failed and then what you did was gave bad information of him. I dont blame you because that was your experience. In trading and as a trader there are always pros and cons but in this situation especially you have the ace how to win it or earned more, it should be have patience, determination and more practice you would able to reach what you want. Strike it every day little by little you are already on the top without noticing it.
For me, my relationship to David is doing well and my trading habit is working better every day. And I believe that I am not alone in this world being blessed of what David brought to me and I think I should not read your complaints against him and just shut up. David is a great guy, if he was selfish enough he wouldnt shared what he discovered and you wouldnt encountered him. He just wants to help us. He just wants to overcome our finances dilemmas. Thanking him is not enough.
#10 Consumer Comment
David's ain't a scam!
AUTHOR: Scott - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2011
How can you say that David is a scam? Have you been to his trading room? Or you are just a moron who is trying to smear David. Well, let me tell you something about my experience with David's trading: I bought his Secret code and Macro code videos after I joined his free demonstration room. I was amazed how he conducts his trainings and how accurate it is. You just dont know how lucky and thankful I am to know David. He is very professional to work with. Whenever I dont understand something about the videos, I simply contact him and he explains everything to me. I must admit
that at first I struggled a bit. But anyway, why are you so jealous of David? I dont understand why you people are making negative feedback against him. We are in fact so lucky that he shared his knowledge to us and make benefits from
it. Maybe you are just a fool who is trying to destroy his good reputation. Am I right? A**hole!
#12 Consumer Comment
I'm on David's side.
AUTHOR: LAnce - Los Angeles (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 31, 2011
The problem with this society is that everybody wants to get rich instantly. I am a trader and have been trading for more than a year now using the secret code. I am not just David's customer but his student as well.
I am one of the lucky few who have been given the chance to attend David's live online trading class. I listened,learned, practiced and have been earning really well with his help using the codes.
David is not a SCAMMER and i will stand up for that. All he is trying to do is to expose what he has discovered, hoping to wake people up.His website offers a free live demonstration of the code for people to see and witness how the
secret code works. And now people are calling him a scam. Is that how scammers do things? Guess not.
The only reason why these people are complaining is because they don't have the brain or maybe they have, but their brains are definitely not working, not capable of understanding and grasping what and how the code works. Too bad.
For me i will always be thankful because he has given me a way out of this declining economy. I am now earning so well and living a lavished, abundant life that i have always wanted.
#15 Consumer Comment
Proud to let you know that I am a success
AUTHOR: Zander - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 01, 2011
Trading is not really easy, especially when you dont have any idea how to do it! We are just lucky enough to have this guy
who discovered about the pattern in Oil market. I must admit that before, I wastefully spent my money. I learned the secret of trading at Oil Trading Academy by using the secret code and the macro code. Now, I can testify that I am earning big out of learning the secret code of oil trading. And that I am doing this simply at the comfort of my own home.
Imagine it! At first, just like all the rest, I was skeptic about this. And it took me a lot of convincing for me to finally go to this thing. Now I understand that the price of Oil is actually controlled by a computer,
and with the ability to predict which direction Oil is going, whether up or down, it gives me a high degree of success in trading! This may sound unbelievable. But take it from me, it really does work! But this isnt too easy as it may sound, skill and technique in oil trading should also be accompanied with hard work. For those people who didn't have the success that I got, recheck what could have been wrong. Or better yet, consult David again rather than accusing him of being a scam.
We are just lucky that this guy who has discovered the Secret in the Oil market, is kind enough to share it with us Attend their free Trading Demo so you can see for yourself what I am talking about.
#16 Consumer Comment
I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
AUTHOR: Bruce - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 02, 2011
Oil trading Academy has led me to have a successful life. The Secret code is so far the best tool i have right now in trading. I am one of the many traders who have been successful because of this code.
I admit, David and I had some misunderstandings at first, but we were able to settle it.I admire this guy so much because of his will to help others. And this guy is kind enough to spend his time entertaining my endless questions to the extent that it seemed like some of my questions were already nonsense. I am sorry for that David. But I should say thank you for your generous heart, definitely 400$ for the videos is not enough to repay you for the success that I am achieving now because of what you have shared to me and to the world.
And also I was able to attend the free live demonstration together with others who were curious and interested, and we were able to witness the what is called the secret code. Since then, I have continued to use the secret code in all my tradings and this is the reason why I earn more than enough every day.I dont want to talk about the exact figures I have in the bank for you to believe how successful I am by the using that code. But I just want to convey and prove that oil trading academy is not a scam, never was and never will be. I believe that David does not deserve to be called a SCAM as well as the OIL
TRADING ACADEMY.
#18 Consumer Comment
See for yourself, Nov 22. David's Proof of the Truth.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 03, 2011
I am a client of David's, and I must say he is a very talented individual. I assure you he will unlock secrets that you have never imagined possible, and he will enlighten you to a perspective known to only a few. I can say for myself that I've made money through his system, and that if learned properly, it can make money for you too.
Check out his Demonstration Room on November 22, 2011, and see if he's the real deal or not for yourself. I recommend it.
#20 Consumer Comment
NOT A Scam At All.....
AUTHOR: Wilson - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 18, 2011
I trade almost a year already. At first I was unsure thinking its a scam but I am so glad, I did, because what I found out was
the accuracy of the course. You know, Oil Trading Academy taught me an effective trading strategy to trade and become profitable on a consistent basis.
Trading needs constant practice. So if you are a beginner, do not expect that you can get much money as you expect. You need to work hard for it! If there is something that you do not understand, do not hesitate to ask David
or people from the Oil Trading Academy, I am pretty sure that they will give you all the information you need to know.
Oil Trading Academy does work, they are not a scam at all!
#29 Consumer Comment
Trading oil academy RAT ?
AUTHOR: william60 - pattaya (Thailand)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I am sending this Rebuttal over the comment on the oiltradingacademy.com website and the comments mad by the guy who smalls a RAT i say WHAT !!. Let me tell you my story. I found this site and product on youtube and watched i would say up to 6 hours of videos on a nice sunny day in Thailand. Ohh please explain why does it make a difference where someone lives
if his product is good or not. I am a retired firefighter/Paramedic with 27 years of service in west palm beach florida, who cares where i live. I live in paradise [Thailand] where the hell do you live ? [i really do not care ].
OK back to the issue, I really spent alot of time studying this before i purchased the videos both the advanced and macro code. I did exactly as instructed. I opened a demo account so i could follow what dave was saying in realtime and on the same platform he is showing in the videos. I was very impressed as what he had said worked well. It was work nothing is easy and not a get rich quick scheme you have to put in your time and efforts.
I have watched both sets of the code three times and i will tell you this every time i watch them i learn something new. I will spend again many hours this weekend doing it again i will view the videos and i am sure with confidence i will learn something new again. THIS SITE AND PRODUCT WORKS YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK TO LEARN IT !!. Please do not judge the person or product by where he lives, dresses or talks. I wish you all a very happy Holiday Season and a Happy
new year. William from Paraidise [Thailand]
#30 Consumer Comment
Oil trading is not a scam
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I do not believe what I have been reading in this website. Jeff, please stop messing David up. David is not a scam and his
videos are real and are working for me. I recently bought the videos and I have found the secret code and the macro code very power in my current trading. Yes, this purchase is the best thing I have ever done in my life. I have previously spent thousands of pounds in purchasing other strategies that never worked and lost a lot of cash trading those strategies.
Jeff, you need to open your eyes and see, these videos are real time and I have seen David explaining them before the actual action and it works.
David, Jeff is wasting his time and your time writing unnecessarily to spoil your name.
Thanks David for sharing this great secret with us.
#31 Consumer Comment
The Only Review You Need to Read.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 26, 2011
The best way for consumers to determine if a business is legitimate is by the reviews of its customers. I have used David's system - both Oil and Blackjack. I have made money using both methods, period. I have documentation of my trading records, as well as proof in my promotion card record at the casino (despite David's warning against this, which he explains
in the video). I am a living testament to the functioning of his methodology. In addition, he posts updates to his videos so you will retain your edge, should his system have any faults.
David is an individual who believes in the truth. We are the type of people that believe, by concealing the truth, one is abetting and aiding those people who choose to conceal and suppress it.All of those people who claim it is a
scam are too incompetent to follow instructions, or pay diligent attention to his instructions. He has a new set of videos coming out soon that will update, expand, and reconfirm his winning strategy.
Don't think I'm telling the truth? Then don't mind any of these reviews and go along with your life. All you're doing is missing out on one of the most precious opportunities of your life. Spread the word and spread this review.
#32 Consumer Comment
The best money making opportunity ever !!
AUTHOR: Henryk K - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2011
This is a great opportunity to make a lot of money!!!! I've been trading for 8 years now, but this has blown my mind , and will make me a rich man soon. I only can recommend this "Secret Code", which price is a "steal" compare to the money you are able to make within a short period of time.This system works, and I've tried it!! Thank you so much David.
Regards,
Henryk
#35 Consumer Comment
Watch Your Word
AUTHOR: Amor - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2011
Hi Jeff,
I can't help but notice your presence here, I have been reading your postings saying all youve got to put down David and convince everybody that he is a scammer. But whatever you do, you cannot prove to us and to everyone, especially to people who used the secret code videos successfully and until now their making their own fortune,that David is a bad man. I want to inform you that I am doing well in my trades using the secret code videos and thanks to David. The secret code videos are really working accurately well for me.And to you Jeff I can testify that youre wrong about his videos and youre saying
the wrong words to David since I knew him in a long period of time. Im doing well in my trading with him and I cant believe that you describe him as a rat, scumbag, moron and etc. imagining David as that? That is Impossible because I
knew him as kind, good man and honest exactly opposite of what youre trying to say about him. Those words you've described David seems to me that you're describing yourself. Better go and do something else and get a life instead of
fooling people to believe you.
#37 Consumer Comment
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Chen - (Taiwan)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2011
Hey pal! What is wrong with you? You're so full of sarcasm and lies. Can't you do anything better but to destroy David's reputation? He is not a scammer. Haven't you ever experienced to earn when David revealed his secret code to the public for FREE? Well, I have enjoyed it! I have earned big from it. Perhaps you're just a no good lonely sore loser! Shame on you and I
pity you! All you need is love this new year man! Have a change of heart. Best wishes.
#40 Consumer Comment
It took me patience to understand it....
AUTHOR: xiang - (Taiwan)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
I've heard of this oil trading academy and I thought this is just one of those gimmicks that suck people's money of their pocket. I was really skeptic about it and it took me time to finally be convinced to try this one out. Anyway trying this won't really hurt me financially. It was a gamble though... So I did try it. I purchased this secret code videos that this
David claimed to work. It sounded so promising and to good to be true. It took me patience to understand it. Now let me testify that the secret code DOES REALLY WORK! I am encouraging those who also benefited from this secret code to
also testify of its truthfulness. To those who are against Oil Trading Academy, I would certainly question you if you really have tried this at all or not. Because if you did, and became successful, you wouldn't be on the other side, would you? So maybe, it's only either, you have not tried it because you don't have the guts and you are just jealous of the success of others, or you have purchased the secret code and is just dumb enough not to comprehend it. As simple as that!
#43 Individual Responds
David IS NOT scam!!!!!
AUTHOR: AliFiroozi - Karaj (Iran)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
Jeff and anybody else who thinks David is scam!
I don 't really know why you guys keep slandering like there is no tomorrow! why the heck are you doing this?
It sounds like you 're really enjoying this!
I 've been trading the Commodity Futures markets for years now and have always known for a fact that nearly all of them are controlled by a huge power! this without a doubt is Illuminati! well, cycles and patterns don 't lie!
they do exist! but it looks like you guys don 't want to see the truth!
Dear Jeff, I 'm not fake! bought the videos three months ago and I 'm really happy I did! time cycles exist and David is right!
Please stop slandering!
Thanks!
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#51 Consumer Comment
Learning the help David is offering
AUTHOR: Maria - (Singapore)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I have been reading this report long ago and it seems as though it's a constant bickering between David and Jeff. David
being the subject of hate by Jeff.
To Jeff since you claim that what David is selling is just a scam why don't you debunk his videos and prove to us all that it is indeed a scam! Have you seen his videos? Because if so, you would have stopped barking by now but if you have seen his videos and still you are like this then I have something to tell you - stop barking, stop gambling and start studying the
market. Truth is, the market will move up and down, up and down, and then shoot up killing all? your sells then it will shoot
down, killing all your buys, the statistics has it that there that most people CRASH AND BURN, very quickly. It is Davids videos that can help you understand why it's happening and prevent yourself from going downhill with tradings that alone is already a big help worth more than the price he is selling his videos. So stop barking and start studying the market better yet
start watching David's videos.
Thank you
#53 Consumer Comment
To Jeff, the Lonely Internet Police!!!
AUTHOR: Chun - (Philippines)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
Hey Jeff! You sounded like a dumb high school student talking about Big Foot. You have a very lame and poor example. Why not add Loch Ness monster and Dracula in your list. Who are you to tell David to stop posting in the internet? Are you an internet police? Is it your job to screen who should post advertisements and testimonies and who should not? How much do
you receive from doing it? Definitely, you are a sore loser or somebody must be paying you to destroy the reputation of Oil Trading Academy. By the way, I am Chun Xiang and I belong to an investment club in Asia... Oil Trading Academy is
the best thing the club has ever found. How can you ever say that Oil Trading Academy was robbing money out of peoples pockets when in fact we actually are receiving income out of it I have people here who can also testify of earning
from the Academy.. It matters on how you logically use the secret code. Let me ask you Jeff, did you ever try to purchase and use the secret code? Tell me honestly. Coz if not, I challenge you to try it and see for yourself the result
and verify if it really is a scam. Anyway, it wouldnt hurt your pocket to invest a few hundred bucks for it, would it? Now, if you already have tried it and still are not successful, then by all means you are welcome to throw all of your bitterness against the Academy. But if you have not tried it at all, and keep on destroying its reputation, then you are a jerk who deserves to be damned for all the rest of your life!
#60 Consumer Comment
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
Travis and Jeff I take it you are Americans..most ignorant people on earth. Someone must be paying you to garrgle all the crap running out of your mouths or you are just plain stupid.
I bought David's video' and are having great success with them, it turned my life around. I tried to help other people and share the code but realised most people are lazy and stupid and wants to be spoon fed so I gave up helping others and now keeping it all for myself.
Travis and Jeff and anyone here that rips David off I think you are all part of the stupid low lifes on earth. Instead of spending your time running David down go learn the code. Oh ...sorry you probably don't have the brains t do so.
#61 Consumer Comment
Believe me David is not a scam.
AUTHOR: Ralph - (Philippines)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I just want to express myself here in ripoff and to all the people in this world that I am real , I am not fake, and definitely I am not David who is making this post. I am Ralph from Philippines I have my personal business trading dealings with David. I am grateful to David because of the secret code videos I became more successful in trading.
If you "haters" have really bought the videos, but weren't able to get the code and use them effectively, well then it's not David's problem anymore that your pea brains are so tiny to comprehend these things, you just simply don't have the intellect to understand the code and be successful.
You people should not believe in what these crazy people are negatively saying about David. Clearly they are liars and scums! I am so dismayed upon reading lots of negative remarks against David. I believe and i can assure you that
David is not a scam.
#62 Consumer Comment
I am a supporter of Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - peterborough (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I am here to support David, Fransa, Ralph and anyone who believes in the power of secret and macro codes. I am real and
my name is Jane from UK. For those who dont believe on these powerful codes please think again and stop wasting your time by reporting and messing Oil trading academy. No matter what you say about David, I will always be on his side. He sacrificed and shared this knowledge with the world and you guys cant see. Leave David alone to continue with his
good work.
Keep it up David and do not let anyone interfere with your business. God bless you.
#73 Consumer Comment
David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
To Everyone who did make false comment on Davids Product!
First of all, I would say its a waste of time to try to convince anyone here! But the only thing that I can say is that David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
Well before purchasing Davids product, I was skeptical, and was afraid of beeing scammed. But it resumed at last, to be the best purchase I have ever made.
I Can even tell, Its so simple that anyone who is trying hard enough to understand it, yet comprehend, the way that David teach it, will definitely Catch the secret and apply itrules. When you watch his videos, ITS ALL THERE IN FRONT
OF YOUR EYES!! WAOOOOooo!! :)
David, shared is secret with the world so we can all prosper(Money) in a way that would have never been possible for ordinary people. And you guys , are using all you energy to shut him down and saying only supposition like you believe to be true.!???
I seriously dont understand your behavior and that is SAD. Guess What, if you were using your energy to understand the code instead of insulting him in many ways ,you would have found what David is explaining in his videos!
I am just a normal guy like you all! But instead of presuming that what David was sharing was true or not I seriously tought it could be a Gold mine for me !! AND IT HAS !
I would like to remind you, The truth lays within (in each one of us). Like there is two sides on a medal, there is two sides on a coin, There is negative and positive, Good and evil..... In any of these, whatever you choose or accept, it will be a truth for you. Its a matter of belief.
The world that you have has come from within. What reflect the outside world has before started within you........ Thats the way it is and that will never change. If you think David is a lie, then your prophecy will be!! In the opposite, it also will become!
PS:. Personaly, I would not ever want to share a secret like the secret code....May be only with my closest friends and family members. Why bother with oders? Most people a skeptical at first!! People thought that Henry Ford , Thomas Edison ..... to only name a few , were stupide and crazy!!!
And look at it now!!!!!??? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Take care all, Peace!!
Christian
Qc/Canada
#74 Consumer Comment
Oiltradingacademy is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
I agree with all Christain said. I must admit just one thing David got wrong is when he said that even woman can do this, I disagree for as I can see here is that it is all men calling him a scam and that because they are to stupid to understand the "secret code". I took it upon myself to share with others what I learned from David, mostly I helped men , oh boy
what a mistake none of them could get it they not just stupid they are also lazy and wants to be spoon fed. Well no more help or teaching from me you want stay dumb and live in the matrix your loss.
Oh and you guys taking David on for his grammar and language it is so laughable. I have found people doing that are usually the dump ones just cause you can spell does not mean you are clever. I have been taken on by many people
about my spelling while they don't even bother to know that English is not my primary language,you see spelling does not give me the truth or make me rich, but I can tell you this much you dumbo's, cause of OILTRADINGACADEMY I am
rich.
I might not spell all that well but I can tell you this much,I AM THE BEST OILTRADER IN SOUTH AFRICA. Oh and yes and I am a woman, intelligent and not lazy, I will even go so far as to say that what I learned from David and applying my own savy as well, I trade even better than him,that is what a good teacher he is.
If I could give you my telephone nr here I would so I can just tell you some more how dumb you are.
Fransa
South Africa
#77 Consumer Comment
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
And now they don't place my posts here,LOL.. cause I gave the trade away today, and the Masons don't like it,proof that the Masons are taking David out here.
Jeff catch me on Facebook ..not many with my name, I am the one with the green eyes..lets see how clever you are.LOL
Fransa
#82 Consumer Comment
Oil Trading Academy is not a SCAM!!
AUTHOR: Peterk - Irvine (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
I have the secret code videos that I got from David. let me tell you that this is the best edge I ever got trading the financial markets like oil. To the haters out there, have you ever traded the financial markets with anything else? Probably not, right? How are David's videos a SCAM? His videos give you an advantage trading the crude oil markets.
I have traded the forex market. Let me tell you that this market is designed for you to lose. there's is no advantage in this market. Only the 1% win all of the time. People should jump on this advantage that David had discovered
trading oil.
David is trying to help people break free of this matrix we all live in. Too many people are brainwashed in this matrix and just don't get the big picture. David is trying to get people to understand the truth out there. A scammer will just take your money and run!!
David's videos will help me to make money and become successful trading the oil markets because I have the code. who would not want an edge these days??? you would have to be on crack not wanting an advantage in the oil markets. My world
has opened up since the 1st day talking to David.
Whenever I have a question, David response with a prompt answer about the videos. Brainwashed people just don't get the big picture on what's going on. I like working with David and he tells the truth. To all of you HATERS, you need
to get a "freakin life" and better things to do than provide negative comments.
I stand behind David and his products a 100%. They will help me and anyone who works it to be successful in this declining economy to BREAK free of this matrix that we are all caught it. To all of you haters, go back to your miserable existence and get a LIFE
#86 Consumer Comment
Jeff, is a PURE liar. But He is untertaining.
AUTHOR: Christian - St-Arsene (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Hey David
Go Go Go. Take that sucker down!!! :D
I am hoping to see peace army............. going down and out of the internet!!! That is all he deserve
What a morron and parano....that guy his!!! unreal!!! Lollll
I think I will help you on his case!!
Take care And
Chris
ps: To all people that want to know the truth about David, Well, He is not a liar. And the code Works perfectly.
#101 Consumer Comment
Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Just because there are scams out there that involve trading does not mean that every system or every school that teaches trading is a scam. What is your evidence against Oil Trading Academy? It "sounds" fishy? You "smell" a rat?
Why don't you pay for the videos and try out the system? I did. It works great. I'm having so much fun with it that I gave up the forex system I've been running for four years to run this system.
If you're going to impugn someone you should at least be able to back you claims up with evidence. You have not done so here. Maybe the rat you smell is looking at you in the mirror.
#105 Consumer Comment
Sympathy
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
David you have all my sympathy with specially this Jeff brainless oke and his agenda.
All he wants to do is piss you off, with his rambling about fake posts, he is so stupid that he can not even see what is fake and what not.
You can not fix stupid, there just ain't no tablets for stupid.
He does not even make an effort to come find me on Facebook , he just ignores all our post flat cause he knows if he does find me he will blow his cover.LOL
Well to Jeff and Neil and any other bozzo here that calls David a scam. I will tell you what his video's did for me and without bothering David ten millions times by email or phone , and I am sure he will testify to that, I have never ever even spoke to him on the phone.
2 Years ago I came across, Davids website while I was searching for brokers to trade forex. I was down and out after the bank took back my home and five other of my investment properties, cause as you know or probably don't know that
America and England all controlled by Isra-hell and the Vatican which is Satan NWO it self which is busy screwing the whole world over.
South Africa, the richest mineral country in the world and also the only country that is going to stay standing after the pole shift,which these people know ,also had to go under the knife of these Satans, with their false propaganda about apartheid in our country and the man made god Mandela which is actually a terrorist in real life. So now our country which us whites build up was given to the niggers by your country America an her allies Isra-hell and England. That put us whites on the genocide watch list and excluded us from the job market with their clever Black Empowerment Equity plan, and I tell you what
these stupid niggers could not have thought this all out on their own, so we know who is behind it as I mentioned.
So in view of this situation in our country I lost everything I owned , I could not get a job as I am white , female, over qualified and to old according to them buggers. I then borrowed money from my brother to buy David's video's and
also used my borrowings to buy two contracts to trade oil. In the first 8 months I build my 2 contracts (at the time $1500 for 1 contract) up to 15 contracts. I now mostly trade with 10 contracts, anything I gain over that I take out. There are 3 and some times more that 3 macro's in a day and I am so experienced now that I can at times get +- 300pips (I call them )in one
day with one trade. One can make 100 pips everyday taking a macro or scalping the strategies. If you sit infront of the computer 8 hours a day trading like any person working a 8 hour job ,you can do this.
I have just bought myself a farm and cash that was,and do you know much a farm in SA cost go Google it :)
Now I must say I am a very lucky girl cause we trade in $ right?..so when I bring my money over to SA I get 7 to 8 times more when my money gets exchanged to ZAR.
One macro trade with 10 contracts = $10000 , (Ten thousand dollar)
+-R180,000 on hundred and eighty thousand rand , people earn that here in a year.
This will be of value to you in the USA of +-$80 000.
I average between 1800 to 2500 pips a month, now I know not everyone can be at the computer as much as I do but I treat my trading like it is my job. And now I am about to get a Broker in Europe where I will trade in Euro which I will get an exchange rate of 10 to the ZAR.:)
So guys maybe you should first be in life where I was before you get hungry enough to put in the hours and the effort I put in. I did not wait for a green and red light , I used my own savvy as well and made a huge success of it and figured trends on the chart that was the same as the automated strategies, even before David sold the automated strategies.
Ok now let me guess Neil will say proof it, Jeff will say its a fake post ,cause Neil wants to be spoon fed and Jeff is just here to piss people off cause he earns more than this smearing other peoples names.
I dont have to proof anything to anyone, specially not people that put in more effort to smear other people instead of spending their time making money.
You must all be out of your mind if you think I am going to divulge my personal stuff here to you.
And I actually don't give a rats a*s if you want to stay in life where you are. Or more likely you are the scared enemy itself posting here that makes a lot more money taking people money with you computer controlled trading.
I must say I just love making money from Satan himself.LOL
Thanks again David you where not a coincidence that crossed my life you where a God send.
PS:Now you will not hear much from me anymore as you are wasting my valuable trading time, I might just pop in now and again to come and have a laugh at your worthless ranting.
Kind Regards
Fransa
#107 Consumer Comment
Jeff's Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
Jeff, you seem obsessed with David. Did he hit it with your wife or something? What's with this personal vendetta?
Why don't you actually try trading the system? Is the system perfect? No, nothing is perfect. Does it work? It seems to
for me. Cut your losses and let your winners run.
David has created new videos for each of the last two days. You can tell he's not cherry picking his trades, because the software gives you the daily score. If you actually run strategy runner, you will see that the top number on the trading pad gives you the profit/loss for the day, and the bottom one gives you the profit/loss for the individual trade in which you are
currently engaged.
So if David was cherry picking his trades, you would see a large loss in the above box.
Again, you seem to have some sort of personal issue with David. Why can't you remain on topic and discuss only the system? If you don't like the system, move on with your life.
#124 Consumer Comment
Code trading for real
AUTHOR: JDNeeman - (El Salvador)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2012
Hello,
First of all my name is J Dennis Neeman Sarano, and i live in El Salvador at the time, im Israeli Army reservist and Agro-industrial Engineer, i have been trading Forex for about 6 years, and NO im not David, you can write me or call
me at jdneeman@gmail.com or at my mobile 50379283218 to confirm my identity.
the last year i came across David website oiltradingacademy, i bought Davids Secret code videos in the US and brought them with me but didnt had the time to watch them untill a month ago, i came to realize that the code was so obvious and real, and i started using it with my regular trading on forex specifically the EURUSD pair, if you have watched the videos you can properly identify the code and is amazing how other traders perform their trades using the code even if they dont know what the code is, you can search you tube real trades videos and look how the code just jump up most of the time, at the time i have started to trade Oil in my trading platform and have had a success rate of 70% and still working to get a higher success rate ( remember i only have 1 month trading with the code), then i saw the Macro code videos and i was set
free!! i took only one trade a day using the macro code on EURUSD and Oil, my conclusion to people that come across this site and want to buy the secret code or macro code is: IS REAL, IT WORKS, ITS PROFITABLE, AND IS NOT SCAM, please
if you buy this and request some help i can help you with my little experience and of course David is there to help us all!,
Wishing the best.
J Dennis Neeman.
#127 Consumer Comment
Macro Code, BJ System
AUTHOR: Randall B. - Green Bay (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
I don't know anything about David's Black Jack system. It sounds interesting, because I like math puzzles, but I haven't looked at it, so I can't comment on it.
Keep in mind though, just because something's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm not saying David's on par with DesCartes, who "discovered" analytic geometry or Leibniz, who invented the calculus. I'm just saying.
As for his claims of high percentages of success, what you say is accurate in a random market. However what David claims (and what imo appears to be the case) is that price action in the oil futures market is in fact NOT random, but
is artificially contrived and manipulated. Now whether this is due to "The Illuminati" or merely algos of Goldman Sachs (is there any difference?) is neither here nor there. The fact is these are observable, repeatable and predictable phenomena.
Now I just want to say something about the Macro code. Wow!
LOL. I'm blown away by it.
YO, JEFF! CHECK OUT THE MACRO CODE. For real. LOL. This is AWESOME.
Seriously, I'm checking out these macro code videos, then going over my old charts that I've been saving for the past month while I was running the more introductory "secret code" videos. WOW man! I'm leaving a ton of money on the table!

#326 Consumer Comment
Hypocrite Randall... And your not??
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 11, 2012
So your not obsessed huh Randall? yeah right! Yes. I admit, I LIKE burying David because David is a thief and he continues to operate without issue and what is WORSE, he TORMENTS you after he rips you off. So this is fun for me to make his life hell because I KNOW he makes his living ripping people off.
Anyway...
The nice thing about this forum, is the more David posts, the more one can see that he has psychological issues. He all but admits that in his videos. But even that doesn't matter, though it is entertaining at times particularly if it wasn't so sad.
Again, the ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS is that David can't prove he can trade live and make money with his system consistently. Whenever he has tried to have a live trading room or anything to demonstrate he has something FOR REAL, he fails. He even admits that. Furthermore, inexplicably he actually SHOWS you two days of his attempts to trade PROVING he can't trade... Don't believe me? Here you go... RIGHT HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Finally he ADMITS he doesn't make money trading the market but selling his videos
If anyone can watch those videos of him failing at trading, read these absolutely irrefutable facts right here and hundreds of other posts, watch all of his videos - YES I AM INVITING YOU TO - on his youtube channels and see he is a lunatic, then they deserve to get ripped off by him
THOSE ARE ALL FACTS. David doesn't speak in facts. He speaks and lives in a world of fantasy to cope with his sad insecurities. Watch his stuff and see for yourself. NO LAUGHING NOW... That would be MEAN!! What do you think Randall? Obsessed with reading this stuff much??

#325 Consumer Comment
Obsessed Crazy People
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
As we can see these people continue posting over and over again.
They have no lives or anything positive to contribute to society.
All they have is their obsession with David.
Yeah we get it. You don't like his system.
LOL

#324 Consumer Comment
Come one come all...See the train wreck!!! David Kuvelas
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
The nice thing about this forum, is the more David posts, the more one can see that he has psychological issues. He all but admits that in his videos. But even that doesn't matter, though it is entertaining at times particularly if it wasn't so sad.
Again, the ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS is that David can't prove he can trade live and make money with his system consistently. Whenever he has tried to have a live trading room or anything to demonstrate he has something FOR REAL, he fails. He even admits that. Furthermore, inexplicably he actually SHOWS you two days of his attempts to trade PROVING he can't trade... Don't believe me? Here you go... RIGHT HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Finally he ADMITS he doesn't make money trading the market but selling his videos
If anyone can watch those videos of him failing at trading, read these absolutely irrefutable facts right here and hundreds of other posts, watch all of his videos - YES I AM INVITING YOU TO - on his youtube channels and see he is a lunatic, then they deserve to get ripped off by him
THOSE ARE ALL FACTS. David doesn't speak in facts. He speaks and lives in a world of fantasy to cope with his sad insecurities. Watch his stuff and see for yourself. NO LAUGHING NOW... That would be MEAN!!

#323 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
I am the owner of the website Oil Trading Academy.
In this post I'm going to explain to you the reader exactly what is going on here on this board, and explain to you why these people like "Jeff" are here attacking me for the last year. The information I'm bringing forth to the world is something these people hate, because they don't want the truth to get out about what they are doing. For instance in the following video I show mathematical proof that a computer program is controlling the Oil market, this is the video these people here don't want you to see or know about:
Oil Trading Academy
In this next video I show and prove and appeal to the FBI for help in catching Jeff on this board, and Biffco on this board, and show proof how Oil Trading Academy is not a scam and show mathematical proof of this by showing hundreds of sales for my videos and showing how these hundreds of people are not here complaining that I'm a scam:
Oil Trading Academy
And here is a video showing how Jeff here on this board is using multiple ID's to post with using fake IP addresses to do it with:
Forex Factory Scammers
And here is another video showing how Jeff works on these kinds of boards going around slandering people working for Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army websites:
Forex Factory
And here is a video where I caught "Neil" on this board posting using a fake IP address, proving that he's using a fake IP to post with here and that he never has purchased my video course even though he has said he has many times, Neil is most likely the same person as "Jeff":
Forex Factory Exposed
And here is a video intended for the FBI to show how the two websites "Forex Factory" and "Forex Peace Army" are working a conspiracy to fool and con people not only at their own websites, but also to slander all good traders in the business in order to further their own profits:
Forex Factory & Forex Peace Army Conspiracy
And this next video shows and explains how and why these people here keep attacking me:
Forex Peace Army
To learn more about the way these Forex people work and what they've been doing to me you can go to the two following webpages:
Forex Factory Scam
Forex Peace Army Scam
These people working these Forex scams are Mason's, I'm about to do another video showing and proving this using the Mason's Code I've broken, which is another reason these people hate my guts and want to take me down. You can view the Mason's Code they've been using to build up the world for their "New World Order" and messiah here:
Freemason Code
And just like the Freemasons have put the entire financial system under the control of a computer program, they also put in their Hollywood movies 3 specific terms, they use God's name in vain, Christ's name in place of a curse word, and the term "the hell", proving mathematically a direct conspiracy against God, against Christ, and to glorify the place they know they are going which is Hell. I have proven this conspiracy mathematically here:
Hollywood Hates God and Christ
The reason why the Freemasons have put the entire financial system under the control of a computer program is because they plan to crash world markets in ONE DAY as per the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
In the following video I take you back to the Pyramid to show you who these people are at their essence, and to lay out the picture for you of what they have been doing globally, and who their messiah is, he comes to bring peace to the world, this is why the Freemason's are causing the chaos because their messiah is to bring peace. This following video will start teaching you who these Freemason's messiah is:
Identity of the Anti-Christ
In the following video I teach you how to overcome evil and set yourself free from it spiritually and physically:
Inspiration Video To Overcome Evil
In the following video I show you the mathematical nature of good and evil:
Mathematical Nature of Good and Evil
In the next video I show how Evolution is a mathematical impossibility, and explain to you what they have hid from you on purpose so that you don't know the real truth:
Evolution is Mathematically Impossible
In the next video I explain scientifically how humans have souls using modern day understanding of physics:
Humans Have Souls
In the following video I explain Einstein's theory of time travel, and how time slows down the further you get from the surface of the earth:
Einsteins Time Travel
I hope these videos can help people learn more about me and what I do and stand for and also help them learn more about this world, what the Freemason's want to take away from you and use you as a "battery", which is to say use you as energy to build their "New World Order", to roll out the red carpet for their messiah.
To learn more about my company Oil Trading Academy you can go to the following links:
About Oil Trading Academy:
Oil Trading Academy
About Code 1 Video Course:
Oil Trading Academy
About Code 2 Video Course:
Oil Trading Academy
Forex Trading vs Oil Trading:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy FAQ's:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Watch Code 1 Videos:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Watch Code 2 Videos:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Code 1 Review:
Oil Trading Academy Review
Oil Trading Academy Code 2 Review:
Oil Trading Academy Review
Now maybe you can understand why these people are here attacking me and hate me so much, they hate the fact that I help people, they don't want people to know the truth about anything in this life, all they know is hate and lies, little more. It's very sad there are people like this in this world, but there are, and they go around scamming everyone and then calling the good people scams.
If you would like to connect with me you can do so through the following links:
Oil Trading Academy Twitter:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Facebook:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Linkedin:
Oil Trading Academy
Oil Trading Academy Newsletter:
Oil Trading Academy
Come over to my YouTube channel and subscribe to my videos because more good videos are coming:
Oil Trading Academy YouTube:
Oil Trading Academy
And also take a look at my Oil Trading Academy Blog where I talk about many important things about trading:
Oil Trading Academy Blog:
Oil Trading Academy
And also take a look at my videos about the Freemasons and about how to lose weight and be healthy and all kinds of things and many more videos are coming to teach about all the truths in this world that the Freemason's are keeping from people, and don't forget to subscribe:
Information Deposit Videos
Whatever you do don't let evil people fool you on what the truth in this life is, because that is their one main agenda in this life, to put people into a world of illusion and lies, and to call good evil and evil good.
They are pure evil on this board calling me a scam, and it is I who is good, doing good works for the people that belong to the living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#322 Consumer Comment
More proof as David posts
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
The nice thing about this forum, is the more David posts, the more one can see that he has psychological issues. He all but admits that in his videos. But even that doesn't matter, though it is entertaining at times particularly if it wasn't so sad.
Again, the ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS is that David can't prove he can trade live and make money with his system consistently. Whenever he has tried to have a live trading room or anything to demonstrate he has something FOR REAL, he fails. He even admits that. Furthermore, inexplicably he actually SHOWS you two days of his attempts to trade PROVING he can't trade... Don't believe me? Here you go... RIGHT HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Finally he ADMITS he doesn't make money trading the market but selling his videos
If anyone can watch those videos of him failing at trading, read these absolutely irrefutable facts right here and hundreds of other posts, watch all of his videos on his youtube channels and see he is a lunatic, then they deserve to get ripped off by him
THOSE ARE ALL FACTS. David doesn't speak in facts. He speaks in fantasy

#321 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
One thing that is true Jeff is that you have convinced a lot of people that you are telling the truth, which goes to show how dumb most all people in this world are. In fact I would say that most all people are mind boggling dumb, showing and proving mathematically how you, and all evil are much smarter than they are. All you have to do is lie to people and they just believe it, like sheep they follow along and believe what they're told.
But I have another surprise coming for you Jeff, in one month I will have 50 websites teaching the code, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me.
Also I will have 20 Press Releases exposing the "code"....
Also I will have Press Releases exposes the entire Forex market for the scam that it is. If you think you hate me now you haven't seen anything yet, I promise you that your hatred for me is going to grow a thousand fold over the next few months, to the point where you will go insane.
And if you think what I've done so far to your Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army websites is bad, you haven't seen anything yet, its about to get ten times worse for you, and the entire Forex industry.
Soon all of you will be at my door wanting to kill me, I 100% guarantee it my friend......
You have made enemies with the wrong person.
Soon all of you are going to realize that, and that it is I who is far superior to all of you more than your pea brains are capable of comprehending....
I laugh at you Jeff, I really do, because while you are a million times smarter than most all people on this planet, I'm a million times smarter than you, and as you can see behind the scenes, I'm showing that to you.
And you are getting more and more angry as we go along, and that is going to increase a thousand fold in one month....
Watch and see....
I'm a man of my word, as you can already tell.
Have fun bashing me and slandering me for a whole year Jeff, I'm honored to be so important to you Mason's, now I'm going to take the fight straight to your doorstep, and become your biggest enemy you've ever had by a trillion times.....
Good luck to you, good luck to all of you Synagogue of Satan people, you're going to need it.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#320 Consumer Suggestion
Agreed with Jeff
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
I couldn't agree with Jeff more. David is still hyping his bulls**t system even though he has yet to show anyone he can actually make money.
Look at the following videos below to see he is NOT accurate and is a BULLSHI**ER! Plain and simple, David does not have the key to trading the futures markets. If he did, people would be on this site and all over the internet talking about how much of an amazing person he is and how much money he's made them. There is no one on the internet doing this because he isnt REAL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
David, has anyone come forth and actually given you Jeff's information?? haha, this is funny to me as well. You said you'd give 10,000 ...did you give it??

#319 Consumer Comment
Its True Randall
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2012
ANYONE can hide behind their keyboards and criticize anonymously. What matters is not the anonymous part, what matters is what is being said about David and the crap he sells. If the facts are there, which are are overwhelmingly against David, then the anonymous part is entirely irrelevant. Besides, people have a really good reason to remain anonymous. David is obviously mentally unstable. The evidence is AT LEAST as overwhelming on that point as it is that he is running a scam selling all of his garbage that he sells.
As far as us proving that we bought the scam system, I think we have proven that over and over and over again with actual facts that are stated in his videos. If we haven't offered overwhelming evidence to that effect to you, then the only conclusion is that YOU HAVE NOT bought is videos to know what we bought them OR you are David. Bottom line end of story there.
Finally, the ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS is that David can't prove he can trade live and make money with his system consistently. Whenever he has tried to have a live trading room or anything to demonstrate he has something FOR REAL, he fails. He even admits that. Furthermore, inexplicably he actually SHOWS you two days of his attempts to trade PROVING he can't trade... Don't believe me? Here you go... RIGHT HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Finally he ADMITS he doesn't make money trading the market but selling his videos
If anyone can watch those videos of him failing at trading, read these absolutely irrefutable facts right here and hundreds of other posts, watch all of his videos on his youtube channels and see he is a lunatic, then they deserve to get ripped off by him
THOSE ARE ALL FACTS.. The anonymous means nothing except what I said. NO ONE needs a lunatic knowing who they are. Who knows what this guy is capable of?

#318 Consumer Comment
Cowards Hiding Behind Keyboards
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 06, 2012
Anybody can hide behind their keyboards and criticize anonymously.
If you really bought David's videos, prove it by giving your real names.
Otherwise, admit you don't know what you're talking about.

#317 Consumer Suggestion
OMG David f*cking crazy
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 06, 2012
David.
This thread has reached a level the internet has never seen. YOU ARE DELUSIONAL! You should stop now! There are several people on here telling you the same story--haven't you realized not all of us can be wrong?
We are not Masons.
You do not have enough money to put out a $7,000 press release because if you had that money you would have done it long ago instead of resorting to posting spam comments on craigslist and various finance websites. Your model is to simply take advantage of people who believe some of the same nonsense you believe.
David! Stop stealing from people and then lying to yourself to make it all okay.
If anyone wants to personally talk with me about my experience with David, message me and we will be in touch. I have nothing to hide and I'm not afraid of David.
As I stated before, David, is short, fat and completely out of shape. Although he'll say otherwise, he is lying. He lives in Henderson Nevada in a place called the District. In fact, if anyone would like to meet me there, I would imagine if we hung outside his apartment area we would eventually run into him and we can confront him on all of his bullsh*t.
Happy bullsh*tting david

#316 Consumer Comment
RE: $10,000 Reward
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 06, 2012
You broke the Masonic code!
You broke the blackjack code!
You broke the oil futures code!
You discovered that hollywood are all Masons!
You are the only master of the bible!
The entire world is stupid according to you!
Etc etc etc!!!!!!!!!!!
But you can't find someones real name????????

#315 Consumer Comment
Come one come all... STEP RIGHT UP!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 03, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Watch him demonstrate how there is NO CODE and he has no ability to trade the oil or ANY market for that matter.. STEP RIGHT UP!!! Get your snake oil here!
While your here check out David's other videos!!! See what else this amazing human is about!

#314 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Step Right Up Peek At The Mason's
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
Watch how people come to this board and slander me for an entire year and make post after post after post in a desperate attempt to slander me and discredit me, why? Are these people just losers beyond description? Or do they have an agenda here? Well obviously they have an agenda, and what is that agenda?
Well they don't want you to watch this video, it drives them INSANE!
Entire Futures Markets Controlled By A Computer Program
That's WHY they KEEP coming here and KEEP posting OVER and OVER and OVER again because they DO NOT want you to watch that video!
Next whatever you do, don't look at these two pages, it drives them NUTS!
Forex Factory Scam
Forex Peace Army Scam
But if you really want to know what pisses them off like you cannot imagine it's their own pocket book, where you now see this page:
Forex Factory
Teetering on the 1st and 2nd page of Google under the term "Forex Factory", and it was on the first page just a little while ago, making them go NUTS!
And this page also is driving them NUTS here:
Forex Peace Army
That page also is on the 2nd page of Google for the term "Forex Peace Army", and climbing quickly.
This has got these guys smoking hot right now and they are freaking out, that's why they KEEP posting at a faster pace and are getting more and more desperate in their posts and saying they wish they could be alone with me with nobody around for awhile....
ROTFLOL.....
And the truly funny part is how they have no idea what is coming next, soon both those pages will be on the first place within Google and there will be a hundred more pages using keywords and videos and everyone all over the Internet is going to learn of these clowns.
And here come the Press Releases, and then that's when it's really going to start, because I'm going to do a really good quality video for the Press Release showing and proving that all Futures markets use the same code, Gold, Oil, Forex, Emini, Silver, etc etc, and then send that out to the entire financial media via a Press Release.
These poor dumb Mason's simply had no clue what they were getting themselves into when they decided to take on a servant of the living God and his Witness.
Don't say I didn't tell you so Mason's in the very beginning of this, now you're going to see what I know how to do, your downfall is coming and you will be exposed....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
P.S. Please stop insulting me with your psychological warfare against me, subscribing and un-subscribing isn't going to train me into thinking that I shouldn't post these videos. And writing to me pretending to be my friend and telling me to stop also isn't going to work, I am fully versed in your ways and completely understand your Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, so your 33rd degree Mason tricks won't work on me, so please stop trying they are an insult to me. You're better off trying to discredit me here on the board than to do something like that. But I give you guys credit you are persistent, but I have a little secret for you, you are messing with God's Witness, and now I'm going to show that to you.

#313 Consumer Comment
Step right up... Come check out the wizard of oil trading
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Watch him demonstrate how there is NO CODE and he has no ability to trade the oil or ANY market for that matter.. STEP RIGHT UP!!! Get your snake oil here!

#312 Consumer Comment
Obsessed Crazy People
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
If you're looking for the crazy people, look no further than the obsessed stalkers.
Like I've been saying this entire time. We get it. You don't like David. A normal person would get on with his life at that point. LOL
You're not normal.
But hey man, that's ok too.
If you don't want to trade oil, why don't you get a regular job? It might give you something to do and raise your self esteem, so you don't have to stalk David all over the net engaging in personal attacks.

#311 Consumer Comment
Also...
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
Check this out. Anybody who knows David might want to try to actually help the guy rather than encourage him. I assume most if not all of these posts from his "supporters" are just him sockpuppeting, but just in case there are any real people in here who know him and might be able to intervene....
See this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;
suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by
misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;
recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;
tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
preoccupation with unsubstantiated "conspiratorial" explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.
Includes:
expansive paranoid, fanatic, querulant and sensitive paranoid personality (disorder)
And check out the "querulant" bit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Querulant
This doesn't really incorporate his delusions of grandeur ("I'm a scientist," etc., etc.), which is more a symptom of a schizoid disorder. But I'm no psychiatrist, of course. I can say with certainty only that he's very ill, and needs help very badly.

#310 Consumer Comment
oy
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
"Would love to have him in front of me just for 10 minutes someday though with no one around... That would be a good time"
In a way, you're worse than he is, because presumably, you have your wits about you (though given that you fell for an obvious scam in the hope of making easy money on oil futures, and you've spent the past year messing with the guy in here rather than either actually doing something about it or moving on, maybe "wits" isn't precisely the right word). You don't quite seem to understand what "severe mental illness" actually means.
Meanwhile, see this.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Paranoia_symptoms

#309 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Mason's
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
Hello Mason's, how are you guys doing today? I see that Jeff is having fun once again attacking me and slandering me, how many posts has Jeff done so far on this board? And to think that Neil and Biffco and all the other names are also Jeff posting using fake IP addresses to do it with, and then accusing me of doing this, the ultimate hypocrisy.
Now Mason's let me tell you something and try to explain something to you. There is a cost for you attacking me here, let me show you.
So far I've been really nice about all this, limiting the exposure of who I have shown this information, but because you guys are on here having the nerve to attack me like this and make up every lie under the sun about me, now I'm going to change all of that.
This next week I'm going to send out a very expensive Press Release to the financial media world, with a YouTube video to go along with it, proving that the entire Futures markets are controlled by a computer program, and no amount of your absurd lies can stop people from seeing the truth.
But it's not going to stop there my Mason friends, then I'm going to do another Press Release and show the world your Masonic Code:
Mason Code
Mason Code Religion:
Jesus Christ 13 (The Lamb of God, God's special Christ, the Son of God)
I am 10 (God is a perfect 10)
Holy Bible 10 (The Bible is a perfect 10)
God's Church 10 (God's Church is a perfect 10)
Christian Church 33 (33rd Degree Mason, it's not Christ's Church, it's God's Church)
Catholic Church 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
GOD 26 (Execute Order 66, the ultimate trick on 7 billion people, make them believe Lucifer is God)
Al-lah 13 (Anti-Christ) God's name is "I am" given to Moses.
Mor-mon 26 (Execute Order 66, pervert God and Christ and the teachings of all prior prophets)
Jehovah's Witnesses 33 (33rd Degree Mason, 100% Anti-Christ/Bible, Satan's Doctrine)
The Pope 36 (666, only God is "holy", only God is our "Father", the Pope makes himself "God")
Tal-mud 33 (33rd degree Mason created the Talmud book)"
Where it's you who reads the Talmud, an antichrist book where you hate Christ and hate the real God, and where you worship Lucifer as your god. And where you have fooled the world and put them into an illusion of fantasy and fairy tales:
Mason Code Idol Worship & Fairy Tales:
Super Man 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Spider Man 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Zorro 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Mickey Mouse 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Peter Pan 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Alice In Wonderland 33 (33rd Degree Mason)
Witch 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Warlock 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Wizard 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Magic 13 (Anti-Christ)
ELF 23 (33rd Degree Mason)
Fairy Tale 26 (Execute Order 66, make them have fantasy and magic, take away God)
Black Knight 13 (Anti-Christ)
Robin Hood 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Muffin Man 26 (Execute Order 66, make them love idols)
Pied Piper 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Fairy Godmother 13 (Anti-Christ)
Chronicles of Narnia 32 (32nd Degree Mason, idol worship)
Magic Wand 36 (666)
Where it's a mathematical impossibility for all these words to equal your Mason Code, showing and proving mathematically how you are behind all the evil in this world, taking God away from people, taking morals away from people and giving them Jerry Springer, Howard Stern, Jersey Shore, and dumbing them down in gangsters and people that fear everything under the sun like terrorists, and the flu, and a nuclear crisis, or oil spill, or a hurricane. Or dumb people down by showing a fat guy on the history channel eat 50 hamburgers and then get an award and ribbon for doing so, teaching people gluttony without them realizing it.
Then I'm going to spend $7,000 and have a major Internet website send out an email for me to over 70,000 traders and bring them to my website and prove to them that the entire Futures markets are controlled by a computer program. I will probably get somewhere around 200 or more sales from that alone. Not to mention tens of thousands of people are going to learn more about you and your treachery on mankind.
But it's not going to stop there Masons, then I'm going to start doing one video after another teaching everything there is to know about you, and all the things that you have done to everyone, and all the things you are doing now and plan to do. I will teach people what the Federal Reserve really is and how you have enslaved everyone to the debt via income tax, making them financial slaves without them realizing it, I will teach them the true nature of money and how it's suppose to work, and teach them the mathematics behind your scam money system. Then they are going to realize that you are the enemy of all people on planet earth, and they are going to wake up to you, and you no longer will be able to hide behind the mask anymore.
What you have done to me here on this board is now going to have repercussions like you never imagined before.
And your website Forex Peace Army and Forex Factory? Both will be slammed and people everywhere are going to wake up to your scams, and to the scam of the Forex market itself. Because that will be another Press Release to the financial industry, showing and proving how the entire Forex market is a scam market with Artificial Intelligence controlling the computer behind the trading, coming to get people's stops.
Yes my little Mason friends, you have started a war that is going to be very costly to you, and I hope it was all worth it.
But now my Mason friends it's 6 hours away until the start of the Sabbath, and I have things to do to prepare for it. And this Sabbath Day might I suggest you fast and throw dust on your head and cry out to Lucifer for help while I eat and drink and worship the living God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and read the Bible and rest and keep the Sabbath Day holy.
In a way I feel sorry for all of you, because your destiny is not a pleasant one that's for sure, because there are no liars in God's kingdom, and that's all you know how to do in this life is lie and manipulate people into believing nothing but lies, about everything, every subject there is you have lied to people about, so that now they believe a whole world of nothing but lies, and I'm going to wake them up to these lies, and expose you at the same time, and show people mathematical proof of you and what you have done.
And what are you going to do? Keep chanting lies here on this board?
You see Mason's this is as simple as mind over matter.
I no longer mind because you no longer matter.
Now please, don't go away mad, ................just go away.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#308 Consumer Comment
Yes. It is easy to see what is going on Randall... Agreed
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 02, 2012
You have been viewing his videos too huh??? SCARY SCARY stuff! I predicted much earlier he is capable of doing the same type of stuff as these shooters that have these mental issues so I would not be surprised to see his name come up soon as causing quite a calamity.
It's so sad really...
The question is, do we sent these links and threads to some authorities there and leave it up to them to decide if David is worth paying a visit to? At least we can say we did what we could to avoid any terrible repercussions. Of course, it could be argued that this attempt to thwart his scamming ways via ripoffreport is what sent him over the edge so I don't really want to be part of that either.
Maybe just gotta let him do what he does and consider we may be saving lives while it costs the unsuspecting $400 to $600 here in there. In the grand scope maybe not such a big deal. It won't be the first time someone like David was left to get away with what he does. He is small time and not BREAKING anyone I suppose.
Would love to have him in front of me just for 10 minutes someday though with no one around... That would be a good time

#307 Consumer Comment
Real People don't have this much free time.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
No real people would have the spare time to spend their lives attacking David like this.
It's easy to see what's going on here.

#306 Consumer Comment
And if you aren't fully convinced.
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
...just check this short video out. Some mainstream commodities-trading dude mildly questioned his theory, and he made this short video where he just becomes ENRAGED -- he sounds like he's about to lose control. This is the scariest one I've seen yet, even though he doesn't talk about the Masons or any of that stuff -- just the computer that controls all markets. Further antagonizing him will have ZERO effect, except maybe to make him go off in some way. I don't mean to sound alarmist when I say this - but I wouldn't be shocked to hear that he perpetrated a mass shooting. Seriously. If that ever happens in Vegas, I'm going to freak out until I hear the details. The Denver guy was schizophrenic, and this guy is exhibiting many of the symptoms of that malady.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C6_GFP4gH0&feature=plcp

#305 Consumer Comment
What's the point?
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
You mean, "weigh in" here? Why bother? - the whole thread is warning enough. Actually, the pitch itself should be warning enough, it's so transparently scammy. And that's before you do the least bit of diligence, where you would find out about all the Masons and Tri-Lateral Commission conspiracy stuff.
What more could you say here that would keep people from falling for it? At some point, you're just being vindictive. If you think you have a case, and it's worth it to you, then sue him. If not, let it go. You aren't doing yourself any favors, and frankly, sending a stranger hundreds of dollars for an "oil trading secret" isn't the wisest move in the first place, and you're as much to blame as he is, if not more. Take it as a lesson learned, move on, and save your money. Buy into an index fund and go read a book or something.

#304 Consumer Comment
You make some valid points Biffco
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
I have kind of been treating him as if there is a logic in his head somehow and it is hard to understand that there is not. When you are sick, and therefore dilusional, arguing is pointless. It only serves to infuriate him and motivate him to do more. I still don't like that he is scamming people even though he is so dilusional that he believes his own lies, but perhaps I will have to live with it.
At the end of the day, he has nothing better to do than make videos, SPAM the internet, talk to people on the phone all day, and sell his garbage. He doesn't have anything else going on in his sad life as he admits.
While it is sad, it is hard to walk away and let him get away with what he does particularly since he is so incredible MEAN after you realize he screwed you. That is hard to take the ridicule. Most scammers don't sit around and continue to chastise you but he does.
But at the end of the day, he doesn't know any better. Screaming from the mountain tops of self righteousness and heroism and Godlike qualities and in reality, just a lowlife scammer.
It is sad, but as you say, he has no one in his life to love him and help him etc. Not sure what I will do going forward. Perhaps just keep it simple and on occasion, weigh in remind people to view his videos and learn for yourself and then it is on you if he gets you.

#303 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mason's Are Becoming Funny Now, ROTFLOL
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
Hey Mason's,
I'm not sure if you realize this or not, but you are making yourselves look obvious now, you are taking people for fools, people can see my videos for themselves and realize you're lying very easily, your 33rd Degree Mason tricks don't work anymore, people are waking up to who and what you people are, how you try to discredit people, turn them into criminals, turn them into mentally ill who needs help, etc. Another words you use even lies and tactics to try and brainwash and manipulate people into believing what you want them to believe, and once they wake up to who you really are and your tactics, then you will be targeted as the enemy, and they are going to come after you. Why do you think you still need your "messiah"? He is coming to help you, why do you think you need help? Haven't you heard history repeats itself? Why? Because people wake up to what you do to them, and then you get kicked out of the country, which has happened how many times now? In how many countries? 100 times? A thousand times?
What I find funny about you guys is how even in the face of overwhelming evidence you will still chant your lies, I assume you believe people are dumb and they will just listen to you, right? Has it ever occurred to you in your art that this is a new time now? Now we have YouTube, somebody like me can just make up a video and show people the truth, show them for instance mathematical proof that oil is controlled by a computer program:
Mathematical Proof Oil Controlled By Computer
Or make up rebuttal videos like this one:
Mason's Attacking Again
Has that ever occurred to you guys? It's like your living in the past and using techniques from the past, when these technologies didn't exist like they do now. You guys are being made into fools and I think everybody here can see that, and your anger is getting worse and worse and your desperation more and more obvious as you continue to post 2-3 times per day as if you have no other life and are obsessed with me and what I'm doing, and apparently you don't see how obvious you look otherwise you wouldn't be doing it.
But then again, like I said before, Mason's is dumb.....
And to think I thought you 33rd Degree Mason's were smarter than this. Do you have any smarter ones that might give me some sort of challenge?
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#302 Consumer Comment
yes, narcissism
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
And also, probably, delusions of grandeur. Watch his latest video where he goes down the list of the things he's expert at. Everything, pretty much. And listen to his voice - the rage.
Which is why people need to stop needling him - there's no point, and it could end up with something really bad happening. Do you want to be responsible for that? He's clearly severely mentally ill - possibly schizophrenic. I fear it's undiagnosed and that he doesn't have people in his life who can help him. But messing with him is like messing with a mentally retarded person, and holding that person up to the same intellectual standards the rest of us live by. This guy can't help what he's doing. He's sick.
David: I apologize for my earlier calling you a scumbag, etc. Really. I don't think you're a scumbag. I think you're sick, and I hope you can get some help.
When I said those things, I thought he just another run-of-the-mill scam artist. But now that I know more, I don't think he's motivated mainly by trying to simply separate people from their money. He really believes all this stuff about the Masons and the computer and the code, etc. So arguing with him is pointless -- and like I said, could come to a very bad end. I just hope he gets some help.

#301 Consumer Comment
That didn't take long...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
He's back. He couldn't even last 24 hours. A narcissist is a narcissit and this is where he gets his attention. VERY predictable.
I am sure the SPAMMING of everywhere will only be cranked up because attention is attention.
I felt sorry for him for a short while, I am over it now.

#300 Consumer Comment
Since he's nuts....
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
I frankly have zero sympathy for anyone who fell for this guy's obviously scammy offers. He's right about one thing: if you gave him any money, he's smarter than you.
And I have LESS than zero sympathy for the "Forex" scammers who have apparently become enemies of the guy. No non-expert, private citizens should ever gamble on oil futures, currencies, or any similar markets - even many of the "experts" have no idea what they're doing. Private citizens should be buying index funds, and if they want a little investment excitement, picking a few individual stocks with money they can afford to lose. All this crap -- Forex, futures-trading "secrets," etc. -- is just that: crap. And the people peddling them are either scumbags, or, I guess, mentally ill. But nearly all of them are simply scumbags, and their "customers" are ignorant dupes.
All I cared about was the spamming. And now that I see that this guy has serious mental problems for which he clearly needs treatment, even that doesn't bother me so much, in this one case. But I still hope he knocks it off.
The rest of you should probably just leave him alone now. If he ripped you off, it's your own fault.

#299 REBUTTAL Owner of company
PROOF Computer Controlling Oil Price
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
Hey Mason's,
How are you losers doing today? Having fun spending your entire life slandering me? I am honored to be of such importance to you to merit this slandering, thank you for making me so special to you, again I am honored.
But now I'm going to show everyone here on this board how you are all liars, how you are all low IQ rejects of human beings and how I have a bare minimum of a thousand times your intellects, and I laugh at each and every one of you and roll on the floor in laughter, at your mind boggling stupidity and your evil, of which you know your time is running out, soon you will be weeping and gnawing and gnashing your teeth:
PROOF Computer Controls Price Of Oil
Proof that Neil on this board is using a fake IP address to post with here and has lied from the beginning that he purchased my videos:
Neil The Liar
And here is proof that the website "Forex Peace Army" are the people here attacking me (Jeff):
Forex Peace Army Scam
And here is a page where I show how the website "Forex Factory" has been attacking my YouTube videos under false pretenses:
Forex Factory Scam
Here is another video showing how the two website "Forex Peace Army" and "Forex Factory" have the same people running them, and that these two websites are running a conspiracy:
Forex Peace Army & Forex Factory Conspiracy
Here are a couple of good webpages about Forex Peace Army and Forex Factory:
Forex Peace Army
Forex Factory
Hey Mason's, keep attacking me, you have been attacking me now for an entire year! You are making yourselves so obvious, ROTFLOL....
Mason's is dumb....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#298 Consumer Comment
AGREED: Watch the videos
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
I took a chance on David's videos.
And I'm very glad I did.

#297 Consumer Comment
Wow.. Amazing stuff!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
We all knew he had some real issues. But just because you have REAL ISSUES doesn't give you the right to rip people off!
I do feel sorry for the guy that he is disturbed and he obviously hates humanity in general and has no friends and hides away from everyone by his own admission. I really do feel bad for the guy.
However, the ONLY reason I went after him so hard is because his level of hypocrisy is such that I rarely see in people and he just incensed me when I kindly asked him to show me (after watching his videos), where his code was relevant or consistent on ANY given day, to prove he has something, because I knew the oil markets, and it just wasn't something I was seeing AT ALL. I could not have been more respectful in my approach, but he lit into me like a man possessed and I couldn't believe it. Previous to me buying them, although he was wierd, he seemed like a really decent guy with real values.
Anyway, he obviously is very disturbed, very lonely, and creates this world for himself to exist in so he can survive. I just can't stand his level of hypocrisy that he has when going about doing it.
I hope he someday finds something of some real value to sell on the internet. He has skills with marketing obviously

#296 Consumer Comment
Wow.. Amazing stuff!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
We all knew he had some real issues. But just because you have REAL ISSUES doesn't give you the right to rip people off!
I do feel sorry for the guy that he is disturbed and he obviously hates humanity in general and has no friends and hides away from everyone by his own admission. I really do feel bad for the guy.
However, the ONLY reason I went after him so hard is because his level of hypocrisy is such that I rarely see in people and he just incensed me when I kindly asked him to show me (after watching his videos), where his code was relevant or consistent on ANY given day, to prove he has something, because I knew the oil markets, and it just wasn't something I was seeing AT ALL. I could not have been more respectful in my approach, but he lit into me like a man possessed and I couldn't believe it. Previous to me buying them, although he was wierd, he seemed like a really decent guy with real values.
Anyway, he obviously is very disturbed, very lonely, and creates this world for himself to exist in so he can survive. I just can't stand his level of hypocrisy that he has when going about doing it.
I hope he someday finds something of some real value to sell on the internet. He has skills with marketing obviously

#295 Consumer Comment
OK, worse than I thought
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
Check this out. This guy is completely insane. Watch this video, and check out the others on that channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I00tFg5PQe0&feature=plcp

#294 Consumer Comment
You mean this system???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Yo Randall. Can you not read? I have been HIGHLY encouraging people to check out his "code" where he demonstrates its less than 50% accurancy despite his claims of 90% accuracy!
I have been encouraging people to see the Master demonstrate his superior intellect and CONTROL of the oil markets using his system (code) to show he can't trade by viewing his own videos to show he can't trade!
Oh... And all the other FACTS about the guy go to PROVE we have been right all along about WHO and WHAT he is and apparently he has been that sort of person a VERY VERY long time.
Sorry... Your Master has promised to LEAVE THE BUILDING and stop the SPAMMING. We will see how long it lasts. I won't hold my breath.

#293 Consumer Comment
The System
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
You mean the system where he gives you a code that enables people to circumvent the computer that the Jews and the Masons use to control global oil-futures trading? That system?

#292 Consumer Comment
Ad-Nominems
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Wow, now they're attacking anyone named David all over the net. LOL
Still no discussion on the actual system, I see.

#291 Consumer Comment
wow....
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
If that's really him - and it appears to be -- he's been nuts for a while, probably his whole life. Read toward the bottom of that page, and he pretty much says so himself. He also admits to having served time for credit-card fraud, though of course, who knows what the truth is. Makes sense, though, given his criminal record (the actual charges weren't included in the Fla. records I found).
How did you find that? I'm not even clear on what it is - it seems to start in the middle, and have something to do with mail-order brides, and he seemed to have a Russian one who was giving him problems, and he wanted to get rid of her. I don't know if I want to know whatever happened with that.
In any case, I will again state that what the guy needs most is help. If he were to get some, he might stop trying to pull this scam crap, and be able to hold down a job. I wonder if his family knows what's going on with him. They mostly seem to live in California.

#290 Consumer Comment
A blast from the Past about David
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Thanks to Biffco, I decided to search David K. on the net and found this wonderful piece on our god fearing scientiist:
http://www.planet-love.com/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=14113.0
Have a laugh and read some of "John LV" or David's comments!

#289 Consumer Comment
But David.. Don't go...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Biffco just posted some really good stuff about your past! We knew you have always been up to no good but I didn't know you had an actual criminal history! Now that is good information to know isn't it? I guess it could have been assumed but I thought you seemed really good at walking a thin line with your scams and this oil trading CODE BS is actually pretty brilliant as scams go. I guess your experience of being a criminal in your history has brought you to this point huh? You got away with it for a VERY NICE RUN and you screwed quite a few people as you so proudly have demonstrated so you have to be proud at how well the run has gone right? I mean, it didn't cost you a whole lot... Mostly your time and creativity so a very strong return I would say over that span!
What about your videos showing you can't trade any better than a monkey flipping a coin?? You gonna keep them up for us??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
What about the overwhelming evidence you are nothing but a spamming, coniving, sociopathic, narcisstic con man? You finally give in and admit it! FINALLY!!!
Surely you can't leave here. You are not even CAPABLE of leaving here! You are FAR TOO BIG of a NARCISSIST to leave here and this place gets you the attention you so desperately CRAVE!!
We will see you soon David. Once a narcissist always a narcissist!

#288 Consumer Comment
See? Nuts!
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
The rest of you should take note of this - this guy obviously has a mental problem, so keep that in mind when you confront him or taunt him. He might actually be dangerous - to himself, at least.
David, I seriously hope you get some help, because you're obviously both delusional and miserable. In the meantime, though, all I care about is that you knock off the spamming. Do that, and I won't have another word to say about you or your weird little obsessions and scams and stuff.

#287 REBUTTAL Owner of company
FBI
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
If the FBI doesn't want to put a stop to this then don't stop it, I really don't care anymore, I really don't. Keep saying lies about me, keep attacking me, keep accusing me of spam, and keep saying that my videos don't work, after all I really don't blame you, for the information that I have puts a noose around your necks and makes you into the world wide mafia criminals that you are, having put the entire financial system under the control of a computer program, right under everyone's nose, right in front of the whole world, showing and proving how you are the world's masters, able to do this with your great power and nobody even knows about it.
And ironically, even when I have shouted at the top of my lungs how this is true, nobody cares. And even all the people who have bought my videos, none have really cared about this.
Well for me it's a disgrace, the whole world is controlled by Satan and his people the Mason's, right in front of their faces in plain sight and few people can see it.
You have to hand it to Satan and his people, they are very good at what they do, which is why they always win in this world, because they will never give up, never give in, they will fight and fight and not stop, who in their right mind on the good side would be willing to just keep fighting like that? Why bother?
I think I have a life outside of Oil Trading Academy, if people don't care that Oil and everything else is controlled by a computer program, then don't care, I don't care either, simple as that.
I don't need to teach anybody anything in this world, I'm free and have always been free and will never become apart of this system, for it is evil and filled with lies and rude people who con and lie and manipulate and bear false witness. What would I have anything to do with this world?
Make fun of me all you want to, ridicule me and say every lie you can think of about me, go ahead, enjoy yourselves, but I'll tell you this, I have been in God's presence, and God spoke directly to me, and when you see and stand before God I promise you more than you could begin to imagine or comprehend that you will be sorry for how you have treated your fellow man. "The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God", of which you have none, and even mock God and his creation....
I want nothing more to do with you, you have already filled the air around me enough with your evil, now I'm no longer going to allow you to touch me, or have anything to do with me, you go out into this world and lie and con people all you want to, the FBI allows it and so I don't care either, this is your world, destroy it and plunder it like the despots that you are, this has been given to you to do, it's yours, enjoy.
But I have my life, and you cannot take that away from me, and now you can no longer touch me or hurt me, all you can do now is more evil and have everybody ridicule me and make fun of me and send me death threats and call me on the phone and say "f**k YOU MOTHER f**kER"!
Well good for you, aren't you boys really something, you have earned yourselves eternal damnation as far as I can tell and I hope it was worth it to you.
But you can no longer hurt me, nothing you say can hurt me anymore, you have caused me enough stress and anguish for the last year, I will not allow you to hurt me any further.
Now I just look forward to getting out of this world and to be with God in his kingdom, and not have to deal with this world anymore, and the evil within it, it has become a thousand times too evil for me now, thank God the New World Order is about to start so that we can get this over with....
I will no longer post here, but as a servant of the living God and his Witness, I would say one last thing, the antichrist is going to show up very soon, once the world goes into chaos, whatever you do don't worship this person, who is a gray alien, if you do you will receive eternal damnation.
You are suppose to know between good and evil, and you aren't suppose to let yourself be deceived by Satan, and yet Satan indeed has the whole word deceived.
God & Christ bless to his people, the wheat....
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#286 Consumer Comment
David's not only a scammer - he's nuts
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
I haven't really read through all this nonsense on this page, just skimmed it. But here and elsewhere I now see that there's a whole other dimension to this - this guy is insane, and a racist, talking about a Masonic/Jewish conspiracy to control currency and commodity trading, or somesuch. Perhaps the Tri-Lateral Commission or those guys who faked the moon landings are also involved, we don't yet know. And I imagine that aliens, in conjunction with Major League Baseball, are likely beaming misinformation about the markets straight into our brains. But David here will sell us a special kind of tinfoil he has developed so that we may protect ourselves. After all, he's a "scientist," you know.
Also: he owes about $8,000 to some collection agent, unless he's paid it since the court judgment came down. But either way, it's hard to believe a financial wizard and "scientist" has trouble paying off such a debt. The court record was updated in 2010 with the word "eviction," but it's hard to tell exactly what that's all about. Doesn't sound good, though.
He also has a long arrest record in Florida from the late 90s. Lots of misdemeanors and third-degree felonies. It's hard to tell from the court records, but it appears he did at least a little time - probably less than a year. But he was convicted at least once, and sentenced to jail. His address is listed simply as "Florida," so maybe he was living in the streets at the time, hard to know. Public records indicate that he has given his age variously as 41, 44, and 49 at various times. He also may have used some aliases in Florida - hard to tell, it just lists "other names associated with...." and then lists a John Anthony Sullivan and a Thomas James Bradley.
He's originally from El Cajon, CA, or at least lived there as a kid and as an adult, and has had more addresses in 4 states than I have fibers in my carpet. NY, too, or at least he had an address there at one point. Florida, of course, is another scammer-nest, as is Nevada. I'd be willing to bet that 75 percent of all spammers in the US live in those two states. Part of the reason Florida attracts fraud-meisters is that you can't have your house taken from you if you lose a lawsuit. That wouldn't directly effect David, of course, but because there are so many of his kind there, it attracts other people like them.
In any case, I don't really care about any of this, or even about his scams, really. I just want to eliminate all spammers from the face of the earth. Or at least persuade them to stop spamming. Notice how he stopped responding to me after I offered irrefutable proof that he's a spammer. One enraged rant, and no word about the specifics of what I said.

#285 Consumer Comment
Watch the master in action
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Watch David demonstrate with 90% accuracy the easy code for ALL TO SEE here as he makes piles of money in the oil market!
This is sarcasm for anyone that is reading this that may be a stupid as David...
Clearly, this master has no ability to trade that is why he SELLS this garbage and doesn't use it himself.
Don't get caught up in the rhetoric. See for yourself... This is your master with his CODE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp

#284 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Time Running Short Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Your time is running short Jeffry, soon I'm going to know who you are:
"I want to know how I will be given the 10,000. I know Jeff personally.
I have his real name, address and phone number. Are you going to lie
or pay me?"
When I find you I promise you that you will be the most sorry man on this entire planet, and when you beg me for mercy don't expect me to give you any, because you won't.
And for you to say I'm short and fat? ROTFLOL. I am an elite human being in perfect shape with ripped abs and a 100% athlete who could easily beat you and all your friends up at the same time with both hands tied behind my back. It's the biggest absurdity on planet earth for a scum like you to be able to even speak to me, it's a joke beyond description.
All people need to do is google "Forex Peace Army Scam" and they will find Jeff that it's YOU who lives in a tiny apartment. It's YOU who has been busted by the FBI. It's YOU who is totally poor and has to slander people online to make money, having lost all your trading money.
You go around the Internet to successful traders like myself to slander them, all kinds of people know about this and it's all over Google.
How you have managed to escape the FBI I'll never know, but somebody Jeffry is going to turn on you and collect the $10,000 reward on your head. And then I'm going to have you, and I'm going to make you pay like your little pea brain isn't capable of comprehending. You are pure 100% EVIL!
And as a servant of the living God I'm here to tell you that you will be in Hell, thank the living God for that, you are the epitome of the person who is going to Hell. If you aren't going to Hell than nobody is.
I want you to know Jeff that out of all the people in this world that I have talked with, by far you are the most evil, hands down, and when you are tormented night and day where you will weep and gnaw and gnash your teeth I won't feel sorry for you or pity you, on the contrary Jeff, God created Hell for people like you, because it's where you belong, to suffer eternal damnation, because to your fellow man you are evil, speaking every foul lie that Satan himself could not do any better, you are the most vile and perverse evil human being maybe anywhere on this planet.
And by the grace of the living God whom I serve I will find you.
To anybody of good will reading this post, just go to the following link and you'll see who these people are, they are from "Forex Peace Army" website, they have called me up on the phone and now they have been slandering me for the last year, over and over again using different names to post with, everything they accuse me of is EXACTLY what THEY are doing, not me.
Take a look at what's happening here on this board and you will see for yourself what evil human beings are like.
When is the FBI going to take care of these people? Why does the FBI just allow these people to do this? They destroy everything!
Press releases are going out today about this matter, where I will expose Forex Peace Army and Forex Factory and their conspiracy and the entire Forex market.
Forex Peace Army Scam
These people are pure EVIL!
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#283 Consumer Comment
Wow! Naysayers=No lives
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
These people continue to be obsessed with David.
Not his system mind you, but David himself. LOL
I would like to thank David, not only for putting his excellent system out there so I could learn from it, but also for keeping these losers busy so they're not actually out vandalizing parks or getting into trouble.
You're performing a great service David!
Well, two of them!

#282 Consumer Comment
Google Dmitri Chavkerov or Felix Homogratus
AUTHOR: Matt - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
To see who these guys are attacking David just go to this link.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071228203505AAlJyT7
This is what these forex peace army people do to others.
Google Dmitri Chavkerov or Felix Homogratus, this guy goes around the Internet doing this to lot's of people, why he is allowed to do this is anybodies guess. You would think they would be taken down but somehow they aren't? Goes to show the gangsters have taken over and allowed to get away with their crimes and nobody does anything about it.

#281 Consumer Suggestion
Who would buy from David after reading this ridiculous thread???
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 31, 2012
If you purchase this bogus system after reading this entire thread, then you deserve to have your money take by David Kuvelas. Even if David did have the secret sauce (which everyone is looking for but no one has found) then why the hell would so many people take the time to come on here and write a review warning people about the lies David has told??? Most people don't want to log in and create an account here unless they were really lead to believe something and were completely taken--people get pissed and want a forum to vent. that's what this is.
If David was legitimate, he wouldn't sell the system at all. he would simply use it for himself and never ever talk about it. Why the hell would someone want to come on here everyday and defend yourself all day long.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I have met David. David, you should not be threatening anyone. You are short, overweight, unhealthy and you are losing your hair because of all the bs you have created online for yourself. You don't have the ability to hurt anyone, which is why you hide behind your computer talking nonsense. Get a life dude!
I just got a good idea. Maybe you should get a job at circus circus as a f**king clown. Truth is, you'd probably get paid more as a David the Clown than you are getting paid to scam people. And, it would be quite fitting.

#280 REBUTTAL Owner of company
$10,000 REWARD
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I am offering a $10,000 Cash reward to anybody who is able to tell me where this "Jeff" or "Felix Homogratus" or "Dimitri Chavkerov" or whatever this persons name actually is. It doesn't matter to me who you are. Do you know this person and work with them in slandering other people? Would you like to turn on this guy and collect this reward? All you need to do is tell me where he is exactly and I'll take care of the rest, just tell me his exact location. Contact me through my website Oil Trading Academy.
Now let me go ahead for the record and show that I'm not a scam.
Here is a video proving that Oil Trading Academy isn't a scam:
Oil Trading Academy Not A Scam
Here is a video showing how the website "Forex Factory" is a scam and has been attacking me:
Forex Factory Scam
Here is another video showing how the website "Forex Factory" is a scam showing more proof:
Forex Factory
Here is a video proving that the poster here named "Neil" who has attacked me and attacked others here on this board is a liar, caught using a fake IP address to post with here, and caught in his lie that hepurchased my videos and wants a refund:
Forex Factory Exposed-Neil The Liar
Here is another video showing how the websites "Forex Factory" and "Forex Peace Army" are the same people running a conspiracy to slander successful traders online and running a scam website in general:
Forex Factory & Forex Peace Army Conspiracy
Here is a page explaining what the website "Forex Factory" has been doing to me:
Forex Factory
Here is another webpage explaining what the website "Forex Peace Army" has been doing to me:
Forex Peace Army
Here is another webpage explaining what Forex Factory has been doing and does to traders in the business:
Forex Factory
Here is another webpage explaining how Forex Peace Army is a scam website that goes around slandering traders online:
Forex Peace Army
My $10,000 reward is good to anyone who can find this person who is slandering me online like this, it's the ultimate insult for me to have this low IQ reject of a human being doing this to me, it's mind boggling that there are human beings in this world like this but there are. If you are able to tell me where he is, it doesn't matter if you're retiredFBI, or if you work for Ripp Off Report, or if you're friends with this person or work with this person, or if you're a detective it doesn't matter, if you're able to tell me exactly where he is I will pay you the$10,000 reward.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#279 Consumer Suggestion
100% agree with Jeff
AUTHOR: feelinglucky - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
jeff is absolutely right! who the hell in the right mind would ask for 400 dollars from several people if they have something that anyone would pay any price to obtain? Jeff is right about the whole martyr , persecution thing. David, since you are trying your best to be Jesus, perhaps you should refund my money. After all, this is what you are touting correct?

#278 Consumer Suggestion
David Kuvelas is at it again and he will not stop until enough people expose him
AUTHOR: jaspercontractors - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I'd like to start by saying I am one of David's victims. I met David personally and couldn't help but wonder why a scammer would take the time to meet me over 400 dollars. It's very clear, 400 dollars is not enough for someone to take any recourse. Case in point, me; after i found that this guy was crazy and there was not secret code, I simply called him asking for a refund which he clearly says he offers. He proceeded to scream at me implying I was a liar etc. THIS GUY IS A JOKE.
You are completely wasting your money listening to this guy. Think for once, do you know anyone who is successful at selling cars, blackjack systems, oil trading systems etc? Can any truly successful person actually make money running so many trades? the answer is no! Anyone who is truly successful (monetarily) is VERY good at ONE thing--most of the time. If David Kuvelas was good at anything, he would be doing that thing instead of dabbling in several things.
I know a little bit about how the court systems work and I'll tell you, what David is doing is a hell of a lot more serious than he even knows. The scary thing about what he is doing isn't the amount of money he has stolen, but the amount of people he has stolen from. Truth be told, the courts can prove he intended to DEFRAUD and he did so to A LOT of unsuspecting people. People who are buying this bullshit system are unsophisticated and basically prey. The courts will protect these people. I know of similar scammers who stole 10-50k in a very similar fashion from several people and they got six plus years in prison.
David, you should consider going and getting a job at the coffee shop in the district where you live. You wonder why your wife left you? It's simply because she had a whackjob for a husband.
Stop scamming and using God as your bullshit foundation for convincing people--it's a joke!

#277 Consumer Comment
Here comes David's PRETEND friends to the rescue!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
Oh oh... We have just unleashed David's pretend personalities that he uses to pretent he has supporters, as if that could possibly happen, so let the show begin!
David, we know you are a shut in. You lock yourself out from the world because you can't possibly have a relatioship with people. YOU ARE PATENTLY UNLIKEABLE and you know it so you create your little make believe world where you get to be KING. You have no friends and no supporters and no one likes you because you SUCK as a human being. You know it, I know it, and everyone reading this knows it.
Having fake pretend posts is not going to stop you from being take down you bonehead... Grin and bear it buddy... You yourself have shown you suck!
Look right here!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp

#276 Consumer Comment
Well said Biffco... One problem
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I have said a lot of things on here, but I can hardly say any of those things I have said better than you just did. It was full of rational thought and was clear and concise that there was absolutely NO ROOM for conjecture.
YET, as you have so prominently pointed out, David is a sociopath. I call him a narcisstic, psychotic, sociopath, because I FIRMLY believe all of that applies. He is a very disturbed human being.
The problem with a guy like this, is that he completely ignores FACTS and PROOFS of his fraud and spamming the internet with his garbage and putting up his fake reviews etc. He ignores the common sense and rational arguments in favor of his nonsensical rants of paranoia and fear.
David obviously has NOTHING as he so strongly shows right here in his videos and he constantly contradicts himself, uses conjecture like "the market will either go up or down from here, it won't just stay here according to the code" or after he big move he didn't take he will try to explain how he "didn't see the signal quick enough so he didn't take it" sort of dribble... or, "there is a signal to go short right now but I am not going to take it because it is high risk" and on and on and on. He probably demonstrates less than 50% accuracy in these 2 videos for ALL TO SEE and YET, how long will he keep them up? I would venture they will be down VERY soon as this serves as overwhelming proof - as if we needed more - that David is a lying snake in the grass scammer and fraudster.
If you haven't viewed it, check it out... Another attempt for David to demonstrate his code for people that lasted 2 days and yet ANOTHER EPIC FAIL... If you can't see he has nothing at all watching these videos and you can't flip a coin and do the same thing as he does, then you deserve to be taken by this lowlife..
Here are the videos ON HIS YOUTUBE CHANNEL done by the oil trading expert David (scumbag) Kuvelas... Recently done... Enjoy!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp

#275 Consumer Comment
David I'm in to help you
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
David I'm going to help you fight this. These people are just tying to make you look bad. I will get the right person involved tomorrow for you so don't worry we'll find these guys. Like you said they are criminals and they don't care about what they say they only want to harm you. I will help you tomorrow hang tight.

#274 Consumer Comment
Yeah, no
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I see that you don't address the proof I offered about your spamming. Because you can't - it's pretty irrefutable. It's right there, to be seen by all, and there's nothing you can say to dispute it. Instead, you spittle with rage and empty threats.
Empty, because I don't know anything about any "Forex" site. As soon as I see "Forex" anywhere on the Internet I know it's a scam. As big a one as you're trying to pull. So, you and your Forex enemies can kill and eat each other as far as I'm concerned.
For myself, I'm just a Web user and writer who is f*king sick of being bombarded with low-life crap every time I open a Web page or try to publish something. You make the world a worse place, David. A crappier uglier place.

#273 Consumer Comment
Google link didn't work, do this.
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
This site is the sh*. The link in my above post isn't live. To see what I'm talking about re: proof that this guy is a serial comment spammer, just google --- "oil trading academy site:google.com"
There, you will find links to stories where he's spammed the comments, with no affiliate code or anything, just instructions to google the name of his site to earn riches beyond your wildest dreams - once you give him the money to pay the rent on his sad little apartment and by some Ramen noodles and Wonder Bread.

#272 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Biffco Scum Bag
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
Actually Biffco it's you who is the scum, you have proven nothing and can show NOWHERE that I have spammed anything or anywhere, you first class walking reject of a human being, and you are not a man, you are scum bag of human being, and you don't have the nerve to say one word to me in person, because you are a worm of a human being, a liar and scum, you are from Forex Peace Army and you are going DOWN, even as we speak the wheels are rolling full steam and your website is going down, and you are going DOWN, do you hear that you moron? You ARE GOING DOWN, and I David Kuvelas is the man who will do it. Next comes Press Releases of your Forex scam, I will put you into prison where belong scum bag, next Interpol is going to be notified of you.
You wanted a war? Now you got one, and you don't have the brainpower to win this war for I have a bare minimum of a thousand times your intellect, and I'm going to personally make you PAY for everything you've said about me, and you're lucky you can hide behind your computer monitor where nobody knows who you are, while I show my face and my phone number and my address, all because I'm a man while you are cockroach at best, a disgusting filthy creature not worthy of life, and you will pay for what you've said about me, watch and see.
Now I'm going to show you what I can do, and make you look like the first class walking idiot that you are.
Watch what comes next.....
Forex Peace Army Scam
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#271 Consumer Comment
Proof of Spam
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
Well, I'm not going to try to explain why someone peddling a get-rich-quick scheme promising to teach oil-trading secrets from Las Vegas is an obvious scam. It just is. I don't know how an explanation could make it any more clear than just stating what it is. It would be like explaining why it's dangerous to walk through a Detroit housing project at 3 a.m. And again, anyone who falls for your bullshit deserves whatever they get. (But I will say what I say about all such scumbucketry: If the person selling this thing knows the secret to getting rich by using some investment method, then why isn't he spending all his time either employing that method for himself, or enjoying the rich life? Why is he selling it instead? Clearly, selling it makes him more money than using it does. See?)
But, sir, you are a spammer, and a particularly obnoxious one at that. Even if your "affiliate program" excuse were valid, it wouldn't matter, because that's an old one and a tired one. You're still responsible for what your "affiliates" do.
But your spam isn't even affiliate spam. It doesn't even pretend to be. Take a look in the comments section of any of the pages in the search results below. Not a single one of them includes a link (which, if it were the work of an "affiliate," would include a code so that the "affiliate" could be credited and paid.) All it says is that you should search on "Oil Trading Academy."
And that, David, is proof that you are spamming these comments sections yourself, or --- less likely since you seem to be a lone nut working in a shitty little apartment on the outskirts of Vegas -- directly having someone do it. Either way, it's you who is the spammer. What "affiliate" is going to run around the Internet spamming comments sections with instructions on how to Google your site, with no method of being paid for inbound traffic or sales?
Finally, David, ask yourself this: How many owners of legitimate businesses spend all this time on "Ripoff Report," for THREE f**kING YEARS, defending themselves against constant and repeated charges that they're scammers? None do, is the answer. None.
You're vermin. You're a scumbag. You're a sociopath. You're a lowlife. You're an a*****e. You're sad and pathetic. And you're obnoxious. Your kind is universally hated. Rather than working in some productive capacity, you look for ways to rip people off -- whether it's this crap or blackjack, or whatever's next. And in advertising your various schemes, you're also a f**king spammer, so you annoy the s**t even out of people who would never fall for one of your scams.
How you can live with yourself knowing all that, I have no idea - but I guess that's one of the symptoms of sociopathy: the inability to feel remorse or to have any real sense of self-awareness. You probably actually believe all the stuff you say here, but I know that at some level, you know exactly what you are, and it eats away at your soul, a little bit each day. Like a slow death.
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=%22oil+trading+academy%22+site%3Acnn.com&oq=%22oil+trading+academy%22+site%3Acnn.com&gs_l=hp.3...1325.12132.0.12501.48.41.7.0.0.0.213.4065.26j14j1.41.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.ju8A2Y3-T2Q

#270 Consumer Comment
Hey David... I am promoting your stuff!!! Woo h*o!!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
Hey David. I am encouraging everyone to watch your videos where you demonstrate your master of your code which is the computer that controls the oil markets and your 90% uncanny accuracy!
So can we mend fences now bud?? Let's bury the hatchett. I fully support you promoting these videos and I am right there with ya? We good?
I know.. Amazing right? I am promoting the stuff on your very own Youtube channel! Wow... Have things changed huh?? You da man!

#269 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Spam
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I'll take this post and answer it one by one:
"Of course, I assume the Oil Trading Academy is a ripoff, because, well, it's called "Oil Trading Academy" and it's a
transparent get-rich-quick scheme. And the guy promotes it via COMMENT SPAM,from Las Vegas."
Tell me, what did you base that assumption on? What logic are you using to come to that conclusion? Are you using this video as your logical basis?
Proof Oil Trading Academy Is NOT a Scam
Is that the video you used for your logical basis? Or was it all the people here who have posted on my behalf? Do you see how easy it is for me to make you into the liar that you are? You are an idiot is what you are, which I can easily show and prove.
"But David, how about a clear explanation of your comment spam. You have spammed the comments sections of many business publications, like Fortune.com and Forbes.com and others, and who knows what other sites. Can you say anything that could possibly justify this?"
Show me one place where you're talking about? Show me one place anywhere where I have "spammed"? You cannot. But this is exactly what Forex Peace Army said about me, they said I was "spamming" their board, and it's what Jeff on this board has said about me, that I spam my secret to people. Do you see the correlation? Well here, let me show it to you a little better and spell it out for you:
Forex Peace Army Scam
"I mean, let's say everything else about your "company" is totally legitimate. So, why then the comment spam, which
you have done many, many times? That makes you at the very least a spammer, right?"
Now listen I don't know what you're talking about, but just in case you're not one of these Forex Peace Army goons here do you realize I had an "affiliate program" and had many affiliates out advertising my website? I don't know exactly what they were doing or not doing, I cannot keep track of everything, you are the only person I've ever heard of complaining about anything like this, so I think there is no validity to it whatsoever.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#268 Consumer Comment
David - what about comment spam?
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
Of course, I assume the Oil Trading Academy is a ripoff, because, well, it's called "Oil Trading Academy" and it's a transparent get-rich-quick scheme. And the guy promotes it via COMMENT SPAM, from Las Vegas.
I'm not asking about the business itself, and I don't much care about the people who might fall for such an obvious scam.
But David, how about a clear explanation of your comment spam. You have spammed the comments sections of many business publications, like Fortune.com and Forbes.com and others, and who knows what other sites. Can you say anything that could possibly justify this?
I mean, let's say everything else about your "company" is totally legitimate. So, why then the comment spam, which you have done many, many times? That makes you at the very least a spammer, right?
I await your full explanation of your spamming activities.

#267 Consumer Comment
Let's begin again...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
OK. OK... Here is the deal. While David is busy busy busy hitting the "yes" and the "no" keys at the end of comments on here, and crying about forex factory, forex peace army, mason, jews, muslims, maybe gays and blacks and mexicans, I can't remember if they are out to get him too, and on and on... I would like to get back to the point.
Have I seen the "code videos"? yes I have. They are a complete FAIL and he spends A LOT of time discussing TIME OF DAY stuff that the market is supposed to make moves consistently etc, but there is no consistency in that so they are an EPIC FAIL! I also described how he behaves when you ask him for a refund (back then I could not have been more respectful) because you find no value in his Code but give him an opportunity to SHOW I am wrong and he has no interest in doing that. Instead, he goes crazy on you and calls you names and rants and raves like a lunatic. I think I have sufficiently proven I bought the d**n videos...
There is also the matter of NEVER being able to be successful in any live trading room or signal calling service or charting service all which would show he knows something... ANYTHING. But all are a failure by his very own admission and he had even provided refunds for those types of services. KUDOS to him for that.... Proving the refunds... I am sure that is totally appreciated.
We also know he makes NO money using his own products. Period.. NONE... If he did, he would happily prove it just as he is happy to prove ONE THING FOR ALL TO SEE, which is that he sells his CODES fairly regularly so he is HAPPY to prove something when he has proof but when he is lying through he teeth, he just gets loud and obnoxious and cries like a baby... I think we all see that. When he has no proof, that is what you get.
Now... Let me change my tune just a bit now... I think you will be surprised David...
I want folks with any kind of intelligence to view a couple of David's videos that he has RIGHT ON HIS YOUTUBE Channel, that he recorded, fairly recently, where he is attempting to trade his account, on demo of course. TO HIS CREDIT... Yes I am giving you credit David, you have posted these videos on your youtube channel for all to see you demonstrate your code that has 90% accuracy. KUDOS brother!!! We can watch you DO YOUR THING!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp
I didn't see these on there until just today so I apologize and I wanted to make sure, as a token of my appreciation for your transparency, that I would do something different for a change and PROMOTE your fine work!
So, for anyone looking for a oil trading program that has 90% accuracy that anyone can do once they know the code, because the code is obviously a REAL thing that will make you piles of money if you just learn it, just watch the videos and David, the expert, will clearly demonstrate to you, the power of the code and how easy it is to see and even a dummy like me could make money with it. I mean 90% is 90% right? d**n!!!
Watch David KILL IT in the markets and clearly prove that I have been wrong all along. 90% is absolutely impressive so obviously I want to do what i can to make up for calling David a lying scammer because he recorded these videos, I assume when he was trying to run his room a month ago, and it clearly shows what a fool i am. I mean... You are just so clear and concise and DEAD ON with your calls each and every time and there is NO ROOM for guessing or discretion whatsoever in your calls and your language! It is right there for all to see clearly!
I applaud you David. Please... As many as possible... View his incredible ability to kill the markets anytime he wants. You will be amazed!
Thanks for letting me say my peace David. I appreciate it. Please give me 100 YESs for approval. I really think I have earned it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXmfnp4Umc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satVfpOVYuU&feature=plcp

#266 REBUTTAL Owner of company
$10,000 REWARD
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 30, 2012
I am offering a $10,000 Cash reward to anybody who is able to tell me where this "Jeff" or "Felix Homogratus" or "Dimitri Chavkerov" or whatever this persons name actually is. It doesn't matter to me who you are. Do you know this person and work with them in slandering other people? Would you like to turn on this guy and collect this reward? All you need to do is tell me where he is exactly and I'll take care of the rest, just tell me his exact location. Contact me through my website Oil Trading Academy.
Now let me go ahead for the record and show that I'm not a scam.
Here is a video proving that Oil Trading Academy isn't a scam:
Oil Trading Academy Not A Scam
Here is a video showing how the website "Forex Factory" is a scam and has been attacking me:
Forex Factory Scam
Here is another video showing how the website "Forex Factory" is a scam showing more proof:
Forex Factory
Here is a video proving that the poster here named "Neil" who has attacked me and attacked others here on this board is a liar, caught using a fake IP address to post with here, and caught in his lie that he purchased my videos and wants a refund:
Forex Factory Exposed-Neil The Liar
Here is another video showing how the websites "Forex Factory" and "Forex Peace Army" are the same people running a conspiracy to slander successful traders online and running a scam website in general:
Forex Factory & Forex Peace Army Conspiracy
Here is a page explaining what the website "Forex Factory" has been doing to me:
Forex Factory
Here is another webpage explaining what the website "Forex Peace Army" has been doing to me:
Forex Peace Army
My $10,000 reward is good to anyone who can find this person who is slandering me online like this, it's the ultimate insult for me to have this low IQ reject of a human being doing this to me, it's mind boggling that there are human beings in this world like this but there are. If you are able to tell me where he is, it doesn't matter if you're retired FBI, or if you work for Ripp Off Report, or if you're friends with this person or work with this person, or if you're a detective it doesn't matter, if you're able to tell me exactly where he is I will pay you the $10,000 reward.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#265 Consumer Comment
David you are a pathetic nutbag
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 29, 2012
More fake posts by David followed by a bunch of hittings "yes" and "no" and then falsely accusing LEGIT businesses of fraud. Keep it up though. I HOPE Felix or whoever he his comes after you and DOES file a lawsuit on your silly stupid pathetic a*s because they are likely to be more than idle threats llike yours. Your pathetic threats accomplish NOTHING much like your trading and blackjack systems. You are such a low life!
The irony... The guy who can't make money by USING his sh-t but only peddling the sh-t on the internet and spamming all over the internet and folks' email accounts. You pathetic human being. You are SO happy to show how you SELL your system but you can't run a successful live trading room proving you know what you are doing. SAD SAD pathetic scumbag!
Keep threatening FPA and FF though. ROCK AND ROLL! I hope you get your stupid a*s sued for slander.

#264 Consumer Comment
David Jeff is Felix Homogratus
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 29, 2012
Hey David guess "who" this Jeff guy is? His name is Felix Homogratus, or known also as Dimitri Chavkerov. You can find pics of him at this website.
http://www.forexpeacearmyscam.net
This is who is doing this to you and he has done this to many people you can read all about these guys they are International gangsters. I will file a petition to the FBI on your behalf and I encourage others to do the same you can file on this website.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
I saw in your video about Forex Factory & Forex Peace Army being conspiracies and I agree with you. Look at post #196 that Jeff wrote the title reads "Can I SPAM YOU MY SECRET???".
Look at your video now of your post at Forex Peace Army and look at the title cause it reads "Well Let Me SPAM you a secret of how paying me money will make you money".
This Jeff guy is that person who posted on your post at Forex Peace Army and it's this guy Felix Homogratus he is doing this to you and many people. Read this.
" The founder of ForexPeaceArmy is known in the web under the names of Dmitriy Chavkerov, Felix Homogratus, Forex b*****d. He has the reputation of a fraudster with the aim to make easy money from the following machinations: blackmail of developing Forex companies, and sale of
false trading signals."
http://instaforex.com/forexpeacearmy.php
This is who is doing this to you David.

#263 Consumer Comment
Riddle
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 29, 2012
Q: How many light bulbs can David Kuvelas screw in, in the room he rents?
A: David doesn't get paid to screw in light bulbs so he is not interested. He only screws PEOPLE! That is where the MONEY is! Don't believe me? Watch his video bragging about how many people he ripped off!
OK David.. Hit NO a million times you loser!! LOLOL

#262 Consumer Comment
You Proved It David!
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 28, 2012
David you hit it on the head with post #254! Neil is a liar! Although his IP you pointed out might be his real IP. Telus comunications. Maybe check it. You proved it! Good job!

#261 Consumer Comment
OIL TRADE BULLSH*T ARTIST
AUTHOR: Speakfacs - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 27, 2012
OilTradingAcademy.com This ranting Maniac creates fake posters, I have posted earlier on this post about this fake macro code crap, I have nothing to prove to you idiot scam artist and charlatan I wasted 400 supposed macro code, worthless garbage I would be willing to give this to anyone who wants to dissect this scam. STOP CRYING ,JUST FACE IT THE GIG IS UP YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED everybody knows you are full of it, stop plaguing this post with long worthless words. You SCUM get a job stop trying rip people off.

#260 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Now Jeff Is Having A Conversation With Himself, ROTFLOL
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 27, 2012
Hi Jeff, You having fun talking with yourself here using your proxy servers? ROTFLOL.... Like your friend (or maybe it's just you) Neil is using proxy servers here to post with?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3m4jk-cwtg&feature=plcp
I have a little surprise for you Jeff, I'm doing a video now which is going to prove that the website "Forex Factory" and the website "Forex Peace Army" have the same exact poster, and that this poster is YOU! And I'm going to show this in a mathematical sense.
You are busted Jeff, and for the FBI I'm going to connect the dots for them and show and prove a conspiracy by YOU to fool and con people at your two scam forex websites and to come on here to this board and slander me, and the funny part is how mind boggling stupid you truly are you don't realize how easy this is for me to do. You simply don't have the brainpower to understand.
But the FBI will understand, as will any thinking person who watches my video. Soon Jeff you're going to be in a prison cell where you belong, and both your forex websites will be shut down by the FBI. Have fun in your prison cell.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
P.S. I'll be done with the video in a little while.....

#259 Consumer Comment
Hey Scambuster...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 27, 2012
Hey man. We have missed you at the last few meetings at the masonic lodge man... Where you been??? We had some groups come and visit us from Forex Peace Army and the Forex Factory looking to take David Kuvelas down because he is giving out the CODE that we all know about but have been trying to keep under wraps for YEARS now! It seems he knows about our computer that controls the entire oil trading market and has been making us our trillions so we can continue to control the world as he have been for centuries with the Illuminati in cooperation with our Jewish and Muslim friends! As you can imagine, A LOT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!
I mean, this guy is like GIVING AWAY our secret code for like $400 and $600! HE KNOWS BOTH THE Micro AND MACRO CODE!! This guy is a friggen genius! I never thought anyone would have been able to crack our code but he has done it and thousands know about it now!! I don't know how he hacked our computer that controls the market but we are looking to put a stop to it as soon as possible and the guys at FPA and FF are working feverishly by sending viruses to David's computer at the house where he rents a room in Henderson so we can slow him down but, I don't know, he is like wayyyyyy smarter than all of us!
What makes matters far worse and more complicated is - get this - the FBI stopped by and raded our lodge and confiscated everything including our cool jackets and even some of our idols we worship! They said something about us making too much fun of David Kuvales and when they got the call, we went on their highest priority of being "most wanted" and such. Needless to say, this David guy has some REAL PULL so we may have to reorganize our priorities! Since David now knows about our computer that controls the oil markets and he can call it anytime and he is selling it to everyone in the world, we obviously can't "print money" like we used to so we have to find another way.
David has given me an idea... You know Bob Guden right? Our Grand Poobah??? Well when he gets back next weekend from from his ice cream social and also training the Al Queda militants, he has a real nice video recorder deal and he was thinking of shooting some videos of us calling the FOREX market with awesome accuracy and we will take the best ones that we get right and SPAM the internet with those and let the world know we have a secret to make milllions of dollars and people will pay us for it! I mean, David has stole our CODE and he has the FBI taking all of our cool stuff and riding our a*s but that can't stop our spirit right? We have to reinvent ourselves right?
Why don't you come down next weekend? After we ride mopeds in the parade we are having a get together at the lodge and we can discuss our new internet marketing business. It won't be long before we replace our trillions that David took from us for cracking our computer code! We will show him!! What do you say?? We could use all the intellect we can get because this Kuvales guy is a scientist and philosopher and like 1000 times smarter that an all of us put together plus I think he talks to God regularly. I mean like the REAL GOD from the old Testament!! So we have some work to do. You in???

#258 Consumer Comment
Great Stuff Here
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 27, 2012
I posted here awhile ago and I see this dispute is still going on. Don't stop, this is great free entertainment, better than any book or movie for sure.
For those that are just getting to know David from oil trading academy, do nothing more than watch his video's ranging from breaking a masonic code to breaking a blackjack code to breaking the oil futures code to his ultimate future video where he will be claiming to be the Second Coming.
To everyone whose been scammed by him, please don't hurt him, just keep provoking him. While he is the ultimate nutjob, he may also be the most entertaining person on this planet right now. If your in need of a good laugh, please watch one of his videos. When you pick yourself up off the floor and are done laughing, I guarantee you that you will thank God for sending us his favorite clown.
I love this guy, he doesn't claim to be an expert in one thing like your normal looney. No, this guy knows all. When you watch his videos he doesn't just talk to you like your stupid, no he just straight up tells you how stupid we all are and how he is the "only" one who knows. He actually said and I quote" Noone on earth knows the bible like I do". I love it, but then I also love to laugh.
Everyone, Masons Illuminati atheists Christians Muslims Republicans and everyone in between, take a few minutes, forget who you are or what you are and check out this guys videos. Not very many have viewed them yet and I think everyone should enjoy the entertainment in them.
Before David accuses me of working for or supporting anyone on this post, rest assured I am independent of anyone on here. I originally found my way here because I watched a webinar featuring David and looked him up and found my way here. I am an Oil trader, I am not a Mason, I am only here for the entertainment.
David, please keep making those videos.

#257 Consumer Comment
Arguing with a Sociopath
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 26, 2012
I concur with Jeff.
You can't argue with a sociopath. I've done nothing but repeatedly demonstrate Jeff's logical contradictions and fallacies.
Do my eyes deceive me, or does it ACTUALLY appear that he's going to stfu after all this time?
LOL
We get it dude. You don't like the system.
Personally, I enjoy it. If you wanna see my charts from trading the system, you can see them here.
I don't trade the system exactly the same way David does, but I do basically the same thing. I'm thankful for David's system, because what I do is based upon what I learned from him.
THANKS DAVID!
Hopefully we can all just finally agree to disagree.

#256 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 25, 2012
Hello Jeff,
As before I respond to your post one by one:
"Facts: Any and all attempts to prove you can
trade live successfully have all ended in failure which PROVES beyond a shadow
of a doubt you have a system that does not work. You have admitted you don't
make money trading oil or playing blackjack but by SELLING SYSTEMS that you say
make money trading oil or playing blackjack. That says it all right there. In
fact, you are emphatic about it."
Not true, contact Rick Kontra at Global Futures and he has seen all my trades done live within Webinars with hundreds of people who attended, what you're saying here is a pure 100% lie. And I never said any of the things you just said, showing again how your agenda is to say enough lies to try and persuade people that what you're saying is the truth, despite the fact that everything you're saying is the exact opposite of the truth.
"You make accusations that Neil and I are part of
forex factory, forex peace army, masons, you said you know who we are and where
we are from, you say you will sue us and use your superior intellect and wrath
to bring us down, you say we and others are giving you viruses on your
computer... You are saying all of these things... NOT A SINGLE THING YOU SAY IS
TRUE.... NONE OF IT. Your a noteworthy and PROVEN liar and nothing more or less
than an internet spammer and scammer. You are self proclaimed scientist and
philosopher with NO CREDENTIALS except in your jaded mind."
On the contrary, I have just proven that Neil is a liar, here is the video again for your video pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3m4jk-cwtg&feature=plcp
"Now I see you are saying you will GUARANTEE that
if your courses don't PROVE that the oil market is controlled by a computer
then you will give them their money back. What you don't say is that you willl
accept no amount of pure logic or intellect or facts to anyone who makes
the argument, which would be easily proven, that the oil market is NOT
controlled by a computer and there is no code and you cannot even demonstrate
live proving it BUT, BUT, you will NOT give them their money back. If asked to
prove it LIVE with the 90% accuracy that you claim, you will NEVER DO IT.
Because you can't, because you know you have NOTHING."
Well you can say that all you want to Mason, and personally I don't blame you for trying to convince people of that lie, because if I were you and I put the entire financial markets onto a computer program under the ruse that they actually were trading in a free market, I wouldn't want to let that information get loose either, otherwise if enough people learned of that information that could become very dangerous for you, especially if the people learned it was the Mason's doing this to them. But the fact is Jeffry that my videos do in fact prove beyond any shadow of any doubt whatsoever that Oil is being controlled in price by a computer program, and there isn't a person alive on this planet who is capable of arguing otherwise. And you don't even know what the "code" is, ROTFLOL.
"The only thing GUARANTEED is that anyone who
challenges your false claims with facts and logic will be ridiculed by you and
you will shout from the mountaintops that they are masons out to get you or
from the forex factory or WHATEVER you make up and they WILL NOT EVER GET THEIR
MONEY BACK. Why?? Because you have created a screwed up world in your OWN HEAD
where you are GOD, and no one can be right but you regardless of overwhelming
facts. YOu will not accept actual facts in your world because if you did, then
you would have to stop being a pathological LIAR!"
Well actually Jeffry I've already proven everything you just said a lie in the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi4p8P40gw&feature=plcp
If what you're saying had any truth to it whatsoever you'd see the payments had problems with them, but you don't see that, and by the sheer number of sales I've gotten you'd see at least 100 or more people on this board screaming I'm a scam, but the only two people here are you and Neil, of which both of you have already been proven as liar and don't know what the code is nor can recite what the code is nor can even give any kind of hint as to what the code is, proving that neither of you has purchased my videos. But you certainly do want to try your best from other people from purchasing them that's for sure, and again I don't blame you, when people learn of this information it takes them out of the Mason's matrix and they begin to open up their minds to the reality of this world, to the Mason's world, a world of lies and deception on a grand global scale, where these Mason's have put the entire world wide financial system under the control of a computer program, where they are going to crash world markets in ONE DAY as per the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SnAjmFLiZE&feature=plcp
"If I for ONE SECOND feared you for bringing me
down for slandering you, I would not be saying all these things. If I for ONE
SECOND feared you have some sort of superior intellect, or ANY INTELLECT for
that matter, I would not be messing with you. The thing is, I know you are a
pathetic loser that relies on your slimy low life tactics to claim you have
something you don't have and you SPAM the internet so you can survive selling
this garbage because by your OWN ADMISSION, it is you ONLY source of income.
You are nothing but, and have always been, an internet scammer loser David. AND
THOSE ARE THE COLD HARD FACTS!!!! NO ONE IS MAKING MONEY USING YOUR SYSTEM
INCLUDING YOU!!! YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT and you cannot prove otherwise you
loser!"
Well actually Jeffry I've already proven it in the above videos, when people watch those videos right now they SEE you are the one who is lying, not me, you rely on them not watching them and just believing what you're saying. But if you're not afraid of me, why not just give me your name? Are you afraid to give me your name? Prove to the board that you are sincere and reveal your name to us all, how about that Jeffry?
By the way, here is a good video entitled "Forex Factory", perhaps you might enjoy watching it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSnYnmzSNo&feature=plcp
Make sure to bring your popcorn Jeffry....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#255 Consumer Comment
Fruitless to argue with a sociopath
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 25, 2012
Facts: Any and all attempts to prove you can trade live successfully have all ended in failure which PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt you have a system that does not work. You have admitted you don't make money trading oil or playing blackjack but by SELLING SYSTEMS that you say make money trading oil or playing blackjack. That says it all right there. In fact, you are emphatic about it.
You make accusations that Neil and I are part of forex factory, forex peace army, masons, you said you know who we are and where we are from, you say you will sue us and use your superior intellect and wrath to bring us down, you say we and others are giving you viruses on your computer... You are saying all of these things... NOT A SINGLE THING YOU SAY IS TRUE.... NONE OF IT. Your a noteworthy and PROVEN liar and nothing more or less than an internet spammer and scammer. You are self proclaimed scientist and philosopher with NO CREDENTIALS except in your jaded mind.
Now I see you are saying you will GUARANTEE that if your courses don't PROVE that the oil market is controlled by a computer then you will give them their money back. What you don't say is that you willl accept no amount of pure logic or intellect or facts to anyone who makes the argument, which would be easily proven, that the oil market is NOT controlled by a computer and there is no code and you cannot even demonstrate live proving it BUT, BUT, you will NOT give them their money back. If asked to prove it LIVE with the 90% accuracy that you claim, you will NEVER DO IT. Because you can't, because you know you have NOTHING.
The only thing GUARANTEED is that anyone who challenges your false claims with facts and logic will be ridiculed by you and you will shout from the mountaintops that they are masons out to get you or from the forex factory or WHATEVER you make up and they WILL NOT EVER GET THEIR MONEY BACK. Why?? Because you have created a screwed up world in your OWN HEAD where you are GOD, and no one can be right but you regardless of overwhelming facts. YOu will not accept actual facts in your world because if you did, then you would have to stop being a pathological LIAR!
If I for ONE SECOND feared you for bringing me down for slandering you, I would not be saying all these things. If I for ONE SECOND feared you have some sort of superior intellect, or ANY INTELLECT for that matter, I would not be messing with you. The thing is, I know you are a pathetic loser that relies on your slimy low life tactics to claim you have something you don't have and you SPAM the internet so you can survive selling this garbage because by your OWN ADMISSION, it is you ONLY source of income. You are nothing but, and have always been, an internet scammer loser David. AND THOSE ARE THE COLD HARD FACTS!!!! NO ONE IS MAKING MONEY USING YOUR SYSTEM INCLUDING YOU!!! YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT and you cannot prove otherwise you loser!

#254 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Forex Factory Exposed-Neil Proven A Liar With IP Address For FBI
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 25, 2012
Hello Jeff,
How are you doing today? As before I'll take your post one by one, and afterward I'm going to expose your friend Neil and provide his IP address for the FBI, and show how Neil has been lying from the very beginning, just as you have Jeffry.
"I have proven David's system is a fraud and I have proven David is a fraud and David proves everyday he is a mental case."
Actually Jeff it's just the exact opposite, you have not even shown whatsoever that you have purchased my videos, you know nothing about the "code" whatsoever, but you're using a 33rd degree Mason trick by stating a lie and acting as if that lie were a fact, using psychological warfare by trying to make people believe in your lies, using tricks and techniques of persuasion. And your agenda is to say the lies enough times in order to get people to believe them.
"Enough said right? Except that David will now put a LONG RANT together that will not address the fact he cannot prove his
system live and he admits it can't be proven live and therefore refunds people when on those deals because he fails them live but still, in his mind, it is perfectly fine sticking people with the same product that he can't prove."
There you go again, saying something which is completely false to begin with and then even say that I'm the one who said it, again showing that you are a liar beyond compare, you are as evil as a person can be, a 33rd degree Mason. Show me one place that I admit I cannot trade live? Or have not shown where I've traded live? On the contrary, just the exact opposite is the truth, I've said many times that I've shown my trading live more times than I can count, and anybody who wants to talk with a witness to these live trading can contact Rick Kontra of Global Futures, he has witnessed my trading in front of hundreds of traders many times, speak to him and he can confirm this to be the truth. Unlike what Jeff says which is nothing but the most horrible and vicious lies anybody could ever speak about another human being.
"He is crying to the FBI about folks launching viruses on him etc when that is such load of crap that everyone knows he
is full of sh-t. yet you defend this scam."
The reason why you say it's a load of crap is because you don't want people to realize what you're doing to me, and I'm here to explain it to them, I'm tired of your death threats, I'm tired you attacking my computers over and over again, I'm tired of you slandering me online everywhere, and so now I'm going to use my full intellect to come after you in every possible way, a war that you do not have the brainpower to win, watch and see.
Now my fine feathered friend, watch and see how a real scientist proves how your friend Neil is just another Forex Factory stooge and giving the FBI his IP address to follow, and by the way, make sure you have your brotherhood demote this clown at least 2 Masonic degrees for his stupidity and blunder, he cannot even get his IP's right, what a moron. In fact, tell them I said he should be demoted all the way back to the beginning, and put a dunce hat on.
Now here is the video that shows and proves that Neil here on this board is a liar and never has purchased my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3m4jk-cwtg&feature=plcp
This video will show you how Neil won't give me his last name, how he responded to me with the name of XX, and how is IP address is originating in Calgary Canada while his IP here on this board is from the USA, proving that he's using a proxy server to post with here.
You've been exposed Neil, and you Mason's at Forex Factory are going down, and I personally am going to see to that.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#253 Consumer Comment
I guess your right
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 25, 2012
I have proven David's system is a fraud and I have proven David is a fraud and David proves everyday he is a mental case.
Enough said right? Except that David will now put a LONG RANT together that will not address the fact he cannot prove his system live and he admits it can't be proven live and therefore refunds people when on those deals because he fails them live but still, in his mind, it is perfectly fine sticking people with the same product that he can't prove.
He is crying to the FBI about folks launching viruses on him etc when that is such load of crap that everyone knows he is full of sh-t. yet you defend this scam.

#252 Consumer Comment
Ad Hominems
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
All Jeff can do is attack David as a person. How many times has he posted on here?
A very, very small percentage of that is aimed at David's system.
The rest is all attacking David as a person.
Dude has nothing substantive to say. Unfortunately he has no life outside of stalking David online.

#251 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
Hi Jeff,
As before I'll respond to your post one by one:
But before I do, let me go ahead and point out to everyone that you are giving your own posts "Yes" votes and giving my posts "No" votes, and this is very obvious to everyone Jeff, you aren't fooling anybody anymore with your 33rd degree Mason ways. Now let me take your post and begin to open peoples eyes to what 33rd degree Mason's do in this life:
"I have never heard and internet spammer/scammer
whine like a little baby like you David! It is just embarrassing! I would
imagine your folks don't have anything to do with you because your such a whiny
little child with these fantasies that you make up about yourself and the world
around you. It is so absurd that if this is how you always have been,
surely your folks have disowned you I would have to imagine. Peddling this
garbage on the internet and having these narcisstic rants of yours is obviously
a coping mechanism for some serious mental issues. "
So by me informing the FBI about what you're doing to me is what you call whining? This is a 33rd degree Mason trick, what your doing here Jeff is trying to make me look bad by calling me names like a whiner, and that this is embarrassing for me, and that my folks have disowned me, etc. What you're doing here Jeff is lying and trying to get people to believe in your lies, by ridiculing me, hoping that people will read what your saying and believe it. This is also what you do at your website Forex Factory, you go around pretending to be a trader of the forex and you scam one person after another with your 33rd degree Mason tricks. You don't see anything wrong with what you do, in fact you enjoy it, because you are pure evil by your very nature, the most vile human being I have ever encountered in my entire life.
"Stop your crying will you? Be a man for God
sakes. You are an embarrassment to yourself and humanity in general for
goodness sakes! If you want to keep on your soap box and the the rants
and raves fine but quit crying you little baby! Keep screwing people and
collecting your checks for goodness sakes. It obviously is working for you. You
probaby use this board as your tool to convince people of the
"conspiracy" to get you so you can con them into buying. It is
probably your best tool... Admit it! IT IS ISN'T IT? Crybaby!!!"
Actually Jeff I'm probably a thousand times more man than you ever thought about being or ever could be, you are a worm at best. I am not an embarrassment to myself or humanity, just the exact opposite, people everywhere like me, because I'm good looking and I'm friendly and I help people in this life, help them to learn things that helps them, another words Jeff I do the exact opposite of what you're saying, when you speak you're speaking about yourself, not me. My video on my main page of my website is proof that everything you're saying against me is a lie, and I show that mathematically, and I have checkmated you Mason, and this is only the beginning Jeff, I will get the FBI involved with this and you will be in prison, and I won't rest day or night until that day comes.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#250 Consumer Comment
Need a kleenex??
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
I have never heard and internet spammer/scammer whine like a little baby like you David! It is just embarrassing! I would imagine your folks don't have anything to do with you because your such a whiny little child with these fantasies that you make up about yourself and the world around you. It is so absurd that if this is how you always have been, surely your folks have disowned you I would have to imagine. Peddling this garbage on the internet and having these narcisstic rants of yours is obviously a coping mechanism for some serious mental issues.
Stop your crying will you? Be a man for God sakes. You are an embarrassment to yourself and humanity in general for goodness sakes! If you want to keep on your soap box and the the rants and raves fine but quit crying you little baby! Keep screwing people and collecting your checks for goodness sakes. It obviously is working for you. You probaby use this board as your tool to convince people of the "conspiracy" to get you so you can con them into buying. It is probably your best tool... Admit it! IT IS ISN'T IT? Crybaby!!!

#249 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Complaint To FBI Filed
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
Complaint To FBI Filed:
Complaint Id: I1210241534261552
The people at the website "Forex Factory" are coming over to a Ripp Off Report on me and slandering me for the last year, Jeff and Neil. Both are saying that I'm a scam, that I sell garbage, that I scam everyone and cannot trade, and say that I'm poor and rent a room. They have been so convincing to everyone that I get emails all the time of people saying I'm a scam, and reciting what Jeff has said about me. They have sent me many death threats, took down a computer of mine with virus attacks, and are attacking me now with trying to give me another virus to take down my computer once again. I have asked them to stop many times, and they won't do it. Even in light of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi4p8P40gw&feature=plcp
Despite that video they are still attacking me, still saying I'm a scam, still saying my videos are garbage, and these people have not even purchased my videos and they know nothing whatsoever of the "code" I teach within my videos. I know these people are from Forex Factory, they have attacked my own videos on YouTube and had them taken down under "copyright infringement", when these videos are all mine recorded on my own computer, and yet twice they have YouTube take them down by filing a false claim of copyright infringement. When they claimed this YouTube informed me of who was making this claim, and it was Forex Factory. These people are threatening my life, they are attacking me everyday at Ripp Off Report, saying that everyone there posting is me doing all the posting. The website "Forex Factory" is a criminal website and a complete 100% scam, run by Mafia criminals, and I'm calling for criminal charges to be placed against these people for "conspiracy". I thank you in advance for any help you can offer me, for I do need it very badly.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
I'm appealing to the FBI for help in the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi4p8P40gw&feature=plcp
Here is a video entitled "Forex Factory Scammers", this video explains how the people at Forex Factory work, how they control conversations by lying over and over again to make people believe in the lie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7X5SG_js18&feature=plcp
This next video is entitled "Forex Factory", and this video I show how Jeff (Highland Village) at Ripp Off Report is continuing to attack me and speak lies trying his best to make people believe these lies are truth, the agenda here is to lie enough times in order to convince people what he is saying is the truth, despite the fact that everything he is saying is the exact opposite of the truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSnYnmzSNo&feature=plcp
" #124 Consumer Comment
Code trading for real
AUTHOR: JDNeeman - (El Salvador)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2012
Hello,
First of all my name is J Dennis Neeman Sarano, and i live in El Salvador at the time, im Israeli Army reservist and Agro-industrial Engineer, i have been trading Forex for about 6 years, and NO im not David, you can write me or call me at jdneeman@gmail.com or at my mobile 50379283218 to confirm my identity.
the last year i came across David website oiltradingacademy, i bought Davids Secret code videos in the US and brought them with me but didnt had the time to watch them untill a month ago, i came to realize that the code was so obvious and real, and i started using it with my regular trading on forex specifically the EURUSD pair, if you have watched the videos you can properly identify the code and is amazing how other traders perform their trades using the code even if they dont know what the code is, you can search you tube real trades videos and look how the code just jump up most of the time, at the time i have started to trade Oil in my trading platform and have had a success rate of 70% and still working to get a higher success rate ( remember i only have 1 month trading with the code), then i saw the Macro code videos and i was set free!! i took only one trade a day using the macro code on EURUSD and Oil, my conclusion to people that come across this site and want to buy the secret code or macro code is: IS REAL, IT WORKS, ITS PROFITABLE, AND IS NOT SCAM, please if you buy this and request some help i can help you with my little experience and of course David is there to help us all!,
Wishing the best.
J Dennis Neeman."

#248 Consumer Comment
re: Haters gonna Hate
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
David if he had proper records would know my name is Neil.
He or you can email me anytime at nery2525@hotmail.com
I will let you know if he emails me.
The only one BUSTED is you Randall. I only deal in truth and facts which David and you don't.
I know he does not have hundreds of customers - go back to David's video and count up the customers (non refunded ones and single purchases - not multiple customers for the past year.)
Since Nov 3, 2011 to Oct 22, 2012 I count 121 customers at most with Vinny, Redgie & Chu at least there 3 times so maybe 110 customers in a 1 calendar year.
Where are the hundreds or thousands of customers? Not there by David's own admission.
David just doesn't want to refund me - plain and simply.

#247 Consumer Comment
Haters Gonna Hate
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
First of all, I would like to say that I agree with Neil and Jeff. This is a dead horse.
Odd that you're so obsessed that you will continue to beat it. Unlike a normal, sane person.
Second, if David has your name, then all you have to do is tell him what that is. Then he can set up a time to go into the trading room with you and you can demonstrate how the video doesn't work, and/or he can just give you the refund.
But you won't do that, because you don't really want a refund. You want to sit on the net and complain about nonsense.
Thirdly, if you're not saying anything untrue, then why are you afraid to give your real name? Because you know you are intentionally libelling David, and you don't want him to sue you.
BUSTED.

#246 Consumer Comment
Prove it David!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
Prove I am a mason!!!!
Prove I am work for Forex Factory!!!
Publicly prove it. The problem is you can't!!
I am NOT a mason.
I do NOT work for Forex Factory.
I will bet you $5000 you can't prove it.
Put your money where your month is.
You have 1 week to prove it.
Be a man put your words into action.

#245 Consumer Comment
David - such an idiot
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
I saw my name scroll thru when you showed all your hundreds of sales.
I would love to see the EXACT number of sales and refunds you have from Code 1.
Prove it! Deal in facts. not name calling. Man up!

#244 Consumer Comment
The first 30 posts say it all, nothing has changed
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
We are approaching 250 posts and nothing has really changed. I proved early on I purchased this code by explaining exactly what he says his code was and I proved it doesn't work as can anyone who looks at the market everyday. Anyone can look at the oil market anyday and realize there is nothing to his garbage.
It's been almost a year now and all he has ever done is threaten, call names, espouse unwarranted accusations, he whines both here and in all his videos and yet constantly calls himself a scientist and philosopher which is far different than any scientist or philosopher I have ever met. I have never met a scientist or philosopher who spams the internet for a living for 10-15 years peddling garbage like he does and when asked to prove it live to support his claims of 90% accuracy, he fails miserably to do it and yet keeps screaming from perch that he has figured out a "code" both in blackjack and oiltrading and sells it for a price point that very few will suffer much if they lost it, which is what internet spammer people do. Oh yeah, and the no refund policy keeps him able to continue to do it. It is a pretty standard model for internet marketers.
So again, little has changed since those early posts. Just more threats that never amount to anything.
PROGRESS....
However, just now he has finally admitted rather emotionally that he only makes money peddling stuff over the internet, he has admitted his failings at any and all attempts to prove his system LIVE right in his video which apparently he DOES provide a refund for on those failings which I appreciate, and while he is still hurling insults and making wild accusations etc, it would seem he as admitted that his earlier threats were completely unfounded and amounted to nothing and always will as will his CALL OUT TO THE FBI to listen to his rantings as if they are monitoring a guy renting a room in someones house spouting conspiracy theories. Although they MIGHT consider it as it is people with David's demeanor that end up in mass shooting genocide type of situations when they finally CRACK UP and can't take it anymore. You always here about the post analysis of those situations and learn of the people that "could see something like this coming" sort of stuff after the fact. They sound A LOT LIKE DAVID... Scary!

#243 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Neil
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
Neil, you can keep saying this over and over again all you want to, it shows that you have nothing better to do with your time. And it shows you have an agenda here.
You say that until I refund you you're going to keep saying I'm a scam, well good for you, but my video proves you wrong as I've sold hundreds of my videos and nobody is here complaining calling me a scam.
Also like I've said I have no clue who you are. Do you call me on the phone? No. Why? Are afraid to call me on the phone? Do you tell me what your real name is? No, why?
Do you ask to come into my room and show me how my code doesn't work? No, why?
But do you come on here and keep saying the same things over and over again without any effort whatsoever to get what it is you say you want? Yes, why?
You see Neil, all you are is a liar, nothing more, that's all you know how to do, is lie. When you say you're not a Mason, you're lying, I know you're a Mason, and I know you work for Forex Factory just like Jeff does.
If you have any truth within you whatsoever, you would contact me, you wouldn't keep posting here on this board and say something really super stupid like my code doesn't work, ROTFLOL. Well I guess my hundreds of clients prove you wrong, and proves that you are a liar.
And as you keep posting Neil every time you do I'm going to point out exactly how and why you're lying, and show people the truth using simple basic logic, something to which you don't understand because your position is the harder position to argue, you have to use lies to do it with, while all I have to do is use the truth :-)
To Randal, thank you for defending me here, I really appreciate this. And as you can see these two Masons are going to continue to say that you are me, or that you are not even a customer of mine, ROTFLOL.
Now you can see Randal the evil that exists in this world, for there are people in this world who love to lie, they enjoy lying like some people enjoy doing normal things like traveling or playing sports. And that's what Masons do, they have to lie constantly because they cannot tell people what they really do in this world, for if people found out what the Mason's are actually doing to this world the people of the world would stand up and kill every last one of them, and torture them to death.
For instance, if people knew the Masons have put everyone as a financial slave and made a scam financial system using their Central Banks to put in a money system where it's a scam from the beginning in that for every dollar loaned out it comes with an automatic interest, so the only way to pay off that interest is to borrow more money, which also comes with more interest, but the only way to pay off that interest is to borrow more money, so mathematically the interest can never be paid off, it's mathematically impossible to do so.
Then what these Mason's do is two main things with this scam:
1. They tied this debt to an income tax on the people of the world, making them permanent slaves to the debt that can never be paid off.
2. They inject too much money into the system and give easy credit so that inflation will be strong and everything will go up in price, making it so that you have to borrow more and more money to buy things, causing you or the government to go further and further into debt, which that debt is tied to income tax, causing everyone to be slaves forever.
Now if people knew that these Mason's have done this in 1913, they would be killed immediately.
If people knew what they've done with Hollywood movies and brainwashed the entire culture into morons, they would rise up against these Mason's and kill them immediately.
If people knew that it's the Mason's who have taken away God in the USA, and taken away Christmas in the USA, they would rise up against them and kill them.
The Mason's are a disgusting evil people who worship Lucifer, that's their big secret, that's what they don't want people to know, and they are all going to Hell, thank the living God for that.
These Mason's want to come here and attack me over and over and over again for the last year because of what I'm teaching people, they hate this and don't want me to do it, and so they attack me constantly, say that my videos are garbage and everybody can see that, when in reality my video shows the exact opposite of this, and proves it mathematically, and yet what do they do? Do they see this truth and then admit to it? No, they continue to lie and say I'm a scam, because that is all they can do, they have no other choice but to say this about me, they must try their best to stop anybody they can from learning this information.
That's why I'm now going to start sending out Press Releases and start doing videos everyday teaching exactly what the Mason's are doing in this world, to wake people up to the truth and take them out of the Mason's Matrix of lies and deception in this world.
And these Mason's are going to freak out.....
Take care Randal and Happy Trading....
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#242 Consumer Comment
David - give it up!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
David - here is a blurb of an email I received from you:
"Hello, If you are receiving this email it's because you've purchased my Advanced Videos and I'm now notifying you that there is an Update Video available for download: http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/academyclassvideos.htm If your username and password isn't working email me and let me know and I will send you a new one...."
So who is the moron, David - you don't even keep good records of who is a client and who is not!
Don't slander me by accusing me of having a low IQ - I don't.
I am not the scumbag - you are! I don't lower myself to your level by name calling like you do all the time.
I am not a mason - don't believe in them.
I have spoken to you more than once - check your records if you have them.
You have my real name if you keep proper records - oh and by the way you have no basis for a law suit - you have the same basis as I do on low - in fact I probably have more - seeing as you refuse to refund me my money!
I would love for you to prove that I am related to Forex Factory - in fact I dare you to!!!
Nice customer service
If you don't refund me - I will continue to expose you as the the charlaton you are, David.
I will not lower myself to call you names any more - unlike you.
After all name calling is all you have for a basis for a lawsuit.
I on the other hand have a useless system and a bunch of name calling from you.
If you are really a true Christian - you would not belittle yourself by name calling.
Be a man - act like a man and own up!
I don't lie - I just deal in facts - unlike you!
The ball is in your court

#241 Consumer Comment
CHEESEHEAD - You don't know what you are talking about
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
My access is not longer available - that is how David treats his customers.
He has lots of technical issues - if you were a real customer you would know that.
What is he going to sue me for? being a unhappy customer?

#240 Consumer Comment
More Naysaying Nonsense
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
First of all, if Dave has your name, he would be suing you by now.
Second of all, the deal is, if you can show David how the videos don't work, he will refund you.
Third, David does NOT have to "let you see" the videos. You download them.
All of which you would know, if you were a real customer.
Thanks for playing.

#239 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Neil
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Actually Neil I have no idea who you are. You have never called me on the phone, you have never shown me that you've purchased my videos, what is your real name?
By the way Neil, you said that everybody can see that my videos don't work.
Do you realize that you make yourself into a moron beyond belief? Your IQ level must be one of the lowest IQ's in all the world, because you've watched my video and seen hundreds of sales going through, and yet nobody is here complaining, and you've seen people buy my code 1 videos and then turn around and pay even more money for my code 2 videos, of which you say everybody can see they don't work.
What you say is the epitome of illogic, showing and proving that you are a liar, and a deceiver, and a manipulator, another words you are a scum bag.
Tell me, have you ever been a man and called me on the phone like a man? No you haven't. You are a Mason is what you are, attacking me, lying about everything you're saying, putting on an illusion for people to try and make them believe my videos are garbage. And yet you saw all the people who bought my videos and then gave me a review about them, calling me a genius, thanking me for being so nice and sharing this information with them, and what do you say? You say everyone can see my videos are garbage.
I'll tell you what Neil, if I do find out your real name, you will be getting a lawsuit from me for slander, so go ahead and tell me what your name is.
My video proves that you are a liar, and it proves it mathematically, making you look like the first class moron idiot liar that you are.
You Mason's crack me up, you really do, and now everyone can see what you're doing here to me, and now they know why, because you're from Forex Factory and you are Mason's and you want to discredit me because you don't want people to know about your Forex scams and you don't want people to know that the entire financial system is being controlled in price by a computer program, and not by "buying" and "selling".
You Mason's crack me up, you must be jumping up and down freaking out, ROTFLOL....
This is only the beginning boys, I have only just begun to fight you, now I'm going to expose you like you don't have the brainpower to understand.
At this point Neil I wouldn't give you anything at all except for a lawsuit for slandering me here on this board, speaking nothing but lies that is easily proven in a court of law.
Have a great day Mason,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#238 Consumer Comment
Randall - you are an idiot!!!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
I don't claim anything. I only deal in facts. I paid for this crap and was never offered a refund. Facts not claims!
David supposedly stands behind his code but didn't and doesn't offer me a refund.
David has my real name, you moron. Unfortunately I saw it scroll by in David's video.
Now who is lying and making things up Cheesehead!
Anybody can see that the videos are no good.
Of course I want a refund but none was ever offered and David does not let me view the videos now.
Nice customer service.

#237 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Hi Jeff,
If you think what I've just done Jeffry bothers you, just wait my friend, from this day forward I'm going to pour hot coals over your head with the truth, something which you cannot stand in this life, something which is your enemy in this life, the truth. While for me the truth is my best friend, and my whole entire life that's what I've lived by, the truth.
And this video proves the real truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi4p8P40gw&feature=plcp
And it proves it mathematically, showing how everything you've said about me here on this board is one big lie, showing how even after you watching the video you still slander me, still say I cannot trade, still say my system doesn't work, making yourself look more and more like who you really are, the mask you've been wearing Jeff is coming off now, and everyone can easily see the vicious hateful resentful person you are, filled with hate and lies and accusations of the most vicious kind.
And the FBI can also easily see through you, and that's why without you having the brainpower to understand or comprehend, you're going to be caught and prosecuted for your criminal actions, not just against me, but against all the other traders you have done this to. There is only one suitable place for you in this world, and that's in a prison cell Mason.
All people have to do is watch that video above and they will see what an incredible liar you are, you have been checkmated Mason. Next comes you being in a prison cell where you belong.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#236 Consumer Comment
I stand 100% behind post #230
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
and I fully support his video he put together showing he is a successful internet marketer and absolutely NOTHING else other than that, as he will NEVER show he makes money trading nor has anyone that are his clients that make money trading. It will never happen. The Challenge has been made and never accepted.
Meanwhile, he is SCREAMING from the mountaintops of his success of selling a system he can't prove even works and has a no refund policy. BOTTOM LINE END OF STORY. The rest is David's obvious pig headed insanity.

#235 Consumer Comment
Neil Seems to be Lying...
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
When I paid for David's videos, part of the deal was that you could get refunded if you could show that the videos were no good.
I personally did not ask for a refund, because I am quite satisfied with them.
However, Neil claims to have paid money for the videos, but also claims that no refund was offered. Thus I suspect he is being less than truthful.
If Neil really bought David's videos, he would know that the refund was part of the deal.
Furthermore, in order to request a refund, he would have to give David his real name, so that David could tell if he was actually one of his customers.
So which is it Neil? Are you or are you not a customer?
Do you or do you not want a refund?

#234 Consumer Comment
David has never offered me a refund
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
David has never offered me a refund. Why is that?

#233 Consumer Comment
Jeff Contradicts Himself (again)
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Jeff, if you had asked for a refund, you would have had to have used your REAL NAME. We both know this never happened. I bet David would be willing to offer you a refund right now.

#232 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You Will Be In Prison Soon Mason
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Hi Jeff,
Soon you will be in prison where you belong Mason, and now I'm going to start teaching the world about you people, what you people do, how evil you are by your nature, how you started the entire Forex market to be a scam to take peoples money, and how you now run the website Forex Factory, one of the biggest websites in the world, to fool people and get them into trading a market that you know they will lose their money.
My video proves that what you just said is yet again another lie, because Jeff that's all you know how to do, because you are a Mason, and you Mason's only know lies and deception and evil, because that's what Masons are, evil human beings.
This is all going to be over with very soon now Jeff, the big boys are now stepping up to plate and we're coming to get you.
Get ready for a Federal Indictment....
And now I'm going to make one video after another teaching about you Masons and everything you are doing in this world.
By the way Jeff, as anybody can see who watches my video, there are people there who have purchased both my video courses, showing that they were happy with their first purchase and purchased again, proving that you lied once again in your post, trying to make people believe a lie simply by speaking the lie, expecting them to be stupid and not understand your trick you are trying to play on them.
Another words that's what you do, is use tricks and lie through your teeth...
Let it be known to the world, it's the MASON'S doing this! They are PURE EVIL human beings, it's time to wake up everyone, the Mason's are the enemy of all of mankind, and I David am being attacked by these freaks for waking people up to their crimes on humanity, and now I David will continue to teach even more on what these people are doing, because it's not just that the Mason's have put the entire financial system under the control of a computer program, it goes far beyond that.
For instance in all Hollywood movies in every script they use the following terms:
God's name in vain
Christ name in place of a curse word
The Hell
It is a mathematical impossibility for every writer in Hollywood to choose to use those terms in their scripts, proving mathematically a conspiracy to put these terms in all the scripts.
The people of Hollywood are Mason's, and they are pure evil human beings...
The following video provides mathematical proof of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nPQn7z95M0&feature=plcp
And as my video about Oil Trading Academy not being a scam, as I said int he video Jeff wouldn't admit he is wrong, he is simply going to keep attacking me because that's what he's paid to do, if he didn't attack me he wouldn't get paid on Friday.
The website Forex Factory is where Jeff comes from, and soon Jeff is going to get what he's got coming to him.
And now everyone can realize once and for all that I'm the one who speaks the truth, and Jeff is a Mason from Forex Factory, let's shut these people down and stop them from doing this crime on humanity.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#231 Consumer Comment
David - so full of crap!!!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
I love to see the proof that I work for Forex Factory - LOL!!! Death threats!! LOL Viruses! LOL 10 a day! LOL I have better things to do I would love for you to prove this. Watched your latest video - by the way we can all read, you don't have to read the amounts even the ones refunded! I have never said you are poor and a pauper - get your facts straight. Now who is slandering who?
All I said was "the system" does not work and I wanted my money back. And you have refused. Just refund Jeff and me and we will go away. $800 plus interest is nothing to a guy like you with "hundreds and hundreds of happy customers"
I am far from Evil. I have never said you faked reviews - check your facts, David. By the way, I asked Fransa to show me how she makes money and she refused. Nice client base - that doesn't want to help each other
I have looked at your videos and all you do is guess at the half-hour or quarter-hour that the market reverses. There is no code - if there was you would be able to publish a document demonstrating it. Haven't seen it - just some confusing videos by David.
Why do you say I "hate you" - I don't even know you other than you refuse to refund me. I draw my conclusions from your actions and your videos. The ball is in your court.

#230 Consumer Comment
Lets summarize David's latest video
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
1) He makes an argument that because he is a successful internet marketer offering no refunds on his videos and he sells a lot of them, that he is not a scam. That is what he spends his entire video doing, showing he has a lot of orders of his videos, showing no refunds on JUST those videos, which he specifically offers "no refunds" on, and he says this proves he is selling something that is legit. Being successful selling crap that offers no refunds means he has a legit product in his mind. That is his WHOLE argument. Yet, I have never ONCE EVER accused him of not being a successful internet marketer. I have in fact said, EXACTLY WHAT HE JUST SPENT 36 minutes on a video proving, that he is ONLY an internet marketer and NOT a successful market trader! He has spend 36 minutes proving exactly what I have been saying all along, which puts him and I on the same page. Imagine that!
2) He had a ton of refunds, which he admits are for his signal calling service and his charting service, which, are services he attempted to provide, which would show he has some potential to be a successful trading guy but they have all failed every single time, and those are the ones he has the refunds for. NOT the "code" videos which he specfically says he has no refund for, but the LIVE stuff that he cannot be a success at in his history of doing this, he gives refunds for, thank goodness. Again, proving my point. He can't and doesn't have any idea on how to call the market because he has no system that works. So him and I are on the same page. He has no proof his system works. NONE
3) He says "everyone is happy and no one asks for a refund" for the video sales. How do we know that? What we KNOW is based on our experience, he does not give refunds on the "code videos" so how do we know everyone is happy? He has a NO REFUND policy on his after the fact videos so there is absolutely no way of knowing this. DuH!
4) He claims to have the highest satisfaction rate or lowest return rate in the industry, bar none. He says this several times. That is not even possible to make this statement because there is absolutely no way of knowing that, yet he just SAYS IT so it must be true right? It is impossible to make this statement and have any truth to it but that doesn't stop David. Never has. He just says it.
5) He claims various people are launching various viruses and attacks against him day in and day out etc. Seriously David?? Are you serious? If that were true you REALLY COULD get law enforcement involved with you but since it obviously is not, you cannot. Come on David. Seriously?
6) Anyone catch the kid in the background? That is not his kid. That is a kid of a family that he lives with in that house that he rents a room in. LOL
Lastly... the guy will still not show, that he can demonstrate his own code to work on any level of consistency, when challenged, as his attempts at doing so have failed again and again and that is why he is a scam. He even admits to stopping services that were his attempts to do so because those attempts were unsuccessful and he refunded the money for those services. He admitted this right in the video several times!
I have NO PROBLEM with this video. It supports all my claims about David and I could not have done it better myself so thank you very much David. You are a successful internet marketer and nothing more, and nothing less. You cannot and have not ever supported yourself trading, because you cannot trade, because your product(s) don't work. Period!

#229 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mathematical Proof Jeff & Neil Are Lying
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
To all law enforcement, specifically the FBI, I'm calling
for criminal charges to be placed against the website Forex Factory for hiring
both Jeff and Neil to slander me here at this board. Here is the video that
proves once and for all that both Jeff and Neil are liars, and that I am the
one who has been telling the truth all this time. I'm asking the FBI now to
help me catch both Jeff and Neil and put them into prison for conspiracy. Thank
you in advance, David Kuvelas, owner of Oil Trading Academy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi4p8P40gw&feature=plcp
This video provides absolute mathematical proof that both Jeff and Neil are
pure liars, who I know both come from the website Forex Factory.
Sincerely,
David Kuvelas
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#228 Consumer Comment
I just did David/Randall
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Yo David. I just described the circumstances that happened after I bought the stupid videos where there RARELY seemed to be a TIME that corresponded to any turn of the market. It was totally random essentially but your videos insisted it was consistent and predictable, which is simply untrue.'Yet, that is what you constantly refer to. If you look through my posts, we have covered this ad nauseum and it is the reason I am here, because your stuff is crap and you know it is crap.
Further, there is NEVER a mention of 'time' when you are trying to demonstrate your system live. You know, all those times you have tried in a demonstration and in your live trading room where you fail as often as you are successful? You are simply a pattern trader and you probably wouldn't be too bad if you didn't suck at it half the time! LOL
Finally, your paypal doesn't match your name as I recall. You use someone else's name. I expect there is a reason for that that is probably a little sinister I would imagine.
You see, people like you David, who claim to have something too good to be true, so SPAM the internet everywhere you can and do fake reviews etc like you do, are pathetic and obvious.
You ask me to prove I bought the crap... I am here am I not?
If you would have just kindly refunded me, I would not be here exposing you, you bonehead!
Why do I have to prove anything, even though I have, when you cannot prove that you and trade live with any consistency and you can't prove to ANYONE you have ever made any money with your CODE?
That really is the question is it not? yet you will not try to prove me wrong by proving you have something other than after the fact videos which, if i wanted to show videos shot everytime my dog took a crap and the market went up, I could do that to and post them and people would perhaps offer me a million dollars for my dog right? After all, I just need to put post videos up there everytime it happens to happen right? SIMPLE! The money will FLOW IN to have my dog on a video feed perhaps!!! LOL
Hey... Stranger things have happened and people are desperate as evidenced by your very existence right David?

#227 Consumer Comment
Prove it Jeff
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Jeff, you can prove you paid for David's videos by giving your real name.
You like to sit there and mock behind an anonymous computer identity. But if you REALLY have nothing to fear from a libel suit, you would give your real name.
Not only would this give you at least some credibility, you would be able to prove that you really paid money for David's system.
But I don't think you will do that.
Because I don't think you CAN.

#226 Consumer Comment
Yes... I DID buy his garbage! Thats why I am here!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Hey David (Randall). I did buy your garbage and that is why I am here. Not only was it total crap but when I gently and kindly asked you to maybe do a live session with me as to explain to me in more detail what your videos were saying with certain times always something too look for etc, then I might get what I didn't understand because after looking at your garbage, I realized it simply did not hold any water.
Plus I have seen you try to demonstrate it live as you stutter and stammer through it all the time only to see you get about 50% success overall which is a far cry from your claim of over 90% or whatever you are saying these days. I have watched you open and shut your live trading room as you continue to fail to show profits for any length of time with that.
Remember, wWhen I was VERY NICE to you, you jumped all over me like a rabid dog and started calling me names and just went absolutly crazy?! Now, normally, if you were a somewhat mentally stable guy, you would know EXACTLY who I am but since i am sure this is a VERY frequent occurence for you. But judging by the fact your stuff is garbage and seeing your demeanor on here and other places on the net as you attack people like a nutjob, I realize it is impossible for you to know who I really am because it would be difficult to "narrow it down"
As Neal points out, if you would just refund unhappy people, problem solved. But you don't because you are a greedy little internet scamming p***k

#225 Consumer Comment
David - give it up!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
The FBI will not waste there time on you. One interview with you will satisfy them. You have never proved that the code works. Your videos certainly do not definitively. I would love for you to show the FBI in 3 (or 5) easy steps how it works and let them decide.
If your product is so good, you should stand by your "reputation" and refund unsatisfied customers. The discussion would end right there. Unsatisfied customers would disappear and you would have a happy client base --- think about it.

#224 Consumer Comment
Jeff=Online Stalker
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Jeff, by your own admission, you are NOT a customer of Dave's. Therefore you don't and cannot know what his system is like, nor are you aware what his customer service is like. You clearly have no agenda at all but to stalk David personally. No one is forcing you to trade David's system. No one is trying to convince you of anything or jam anything down your throat. Yet for some reason, you have some sort of perverse animosity toward David. That's the mark of an obsessed crazy person. We get it. You're skeptical of David's system. Apparently you're also obsessed with David the man.

#223 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Neil
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Hello Neil,
Let me take your post one by one:
"David - you are so far off in left field - it is unbelievable - I have never slandered anyone."
You have never slandered anyone? You just slandered me, you just said that I have lot's of people out there unhappy with my hocus pocus. What proof of that do you have? Do you have any proof of that whatsoever? No you don't, so you just slandered me. But I do have proof that what you just said is a lie, I have mathematical proof, and in a few days I'm going to show all the sales I've gotten from Oil Trading Academy, and show how virtually nobody has complained or wanted their money back, showing and proving how much of a liar you are.
"I just asked for my money back - which you refused."
No it's you who refused to show me how this doesn't work, you could not come into my trading room and simply show me how this doesn't work, why? Because you know that's impossible to do, since Oil is controlled by a computer program it does the same thing over and over and over again, which is easily seen, which my videos show and explain and teach over and over and over again, taking winning trade after winning trade using the code, explaining the code, teaching the code over and over and over again. This is why you know that you cannot come into my trading room and show me how this doesn't work, because you KNOW that it does work. As my videos show over and over again. What you don't want people to know is that Oil is controlled by a computer, you want that fact kept from people, so you come on here to discredit me and agree with Jeff whom you work with.
"I don't waste my time going to traders central."
Well guess what Neil, I have proof that this statement is a lie, you have in fact gone there and your IP proves that fact. It's funny about you and Jeff, all you know is how to lie, and every word that comes out of your mouth is another lie, it's amazing and as a scientist I find this very interesting because I have never once seen anybody lie like this, and goes to show how Forex Factory needs to be shut down and the owner put into prison.
"I never give my real phone number out - as I don't like follow-up marketing crap and have my name and number sold to some one else - clear and simple."
Oh so I guess that explains the coincidence at Online Traders Central then huh? I'll let the FBI decide that Neil.
"You can include me in any lawsuit you want - you have no basis and will just be wasting your time and money if you have any."
No I guess it will be wasting the time of the FBI, I'll let them decide, I simply present the facts as a scientist.
"I asked your many followers on here to provide me details of any real trades that have executed and no one has come forward to show me based on your "code"."
Why should anybody here provide you with anything? Who are you? If they provide you something, what benefit is it to them? Are you going to pay them money? Are you going to be their friend? What are you going to do for them? They don't even know you, why should they do something for you? Do you see Neil how you use this as an excuse to call me a scam? Because nobody here will provide you proof of their trades, that means I'm a scam in your logic. I hate to tell you this Neil, but you are a nobody, that's what you are, a low IQ nobody, and nobody is going to show you anything. But let me ask you a question, did you call the Jewish guy on this board who has left their phone number and email address to be contacted, who served in the Israeli army and now works in Central America? Did you call him up? Or email him? Because he bought both of my video courses, and knows both codes, so does Randal, he also knows both codes, while you don't know anything at all except for how to lie and bear false witness against me.
"All I ever got were some insults. So spare me your drival and refund my money and I will let you go your merry way."
Show me how my system doesn't work and I'll be happy to refund your money back to you. My videos prove mathematically that no human being on this planet has the brainpower to argue with me about that Oil is controlled by a computer program. This is a 100% FACT that my videos prove, the only reason why you say it doesn't work is because you are a fraud, you are from Forex Factory, for even girls understand my videos while you pretend you don't. Go to my website, I just received a review there on the 20th, under Code 1 reviews:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/videofeedback.htm
That's from Violetta.....
You see Neil, I'm onto you, and you have lied about what you've said, and I guess you think if you just lie enough and deny everything that it's going to save you. Well now you're up against the man who broke the "Blackjack Code", and broke the entire "Futures Markets Code", and broke the entire "Masonic Code", and I'm breaking this information to the public and law enforcement, that you and Jeff are working in a conspiracy to slander traders and Online Traders Central has your IP going into places where traders have been slandered just like me. We are now onto you Neil, and the FBI is getting involved, as our lawyers. The time to pay the piper is coming, and I truly feel sorry for you and Jeff, it's sad that there are people like you in this world.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#222 Consumer Comment
David - go back on your meds!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
David - you are so far off in left field - it is unbelievable - I have never slandered anyone.
I just asked for my money back - which you refused.
I don't waste my time going to traders central.
I never give my real phone number out - as I don't like follow-up marketing crap and have my name and number sold to some one else - clear and simple.
You can include me in any lawsuit you want - you have no basis and will just be wasting your time and money if you have any.
I asked your many followers on here to provide me details of any real trades that have executed and no one has come forward to show me based on your "code".
All I ever got were some insults.
So spare me your drival and refund my money and I will let you go your merry way.

#221 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Neil
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Hello Neil,
I'm onto you as well Neil, and you will also be in the lawsuit, and we're going to find your connection to Forex Factory as well, and I have your address and your IP address.
Tell me Neil, when you and Jeff attended my Webinar at Online Traders Central where there were over 300 people that attended, could you explain to me why it was only you and Jeff that didn't give their phone number or their address on the signup form?
Is it just a coincidence Neil that the only two people who didn't give their phone number and their address out of 300 people are the two people here on this board calling me a scam?
No Neil it's not a coincidence, and I'm going to include you in the lawsuit. You and Jeff are working together to slander traders at Online Traders Central, and I'm going to prove that. Next I'm going to give your address here on this board and make you public so that law enforcement can also begin to monitor you as well.
For you are nothing but a liar Neil, that's what you are, just like Jeff you the scum of this earth, and you will pay for your obvious slander against me. I have over 500 clients, and you lie about me and say I don't have any clients.
You cannot imagine the hole you and Jeff are putting yourselves into, and only when you are in prison will you understand, and that day is coming very quickly Neil, and my next post here is going to include your full address and your IP address so that you can begin to be investigated by those who are doing so right now.
And you know what the funny thing is Neil? You thought you could just do this to me and get away with it. You're going to find out different really soon Neil.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#220 Consumer Comment
Randall - Get real!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
Randall - David does not have thousands of customers - he just has a few devotees and a lot of unhappy customers who were ripped off by his hocus pocus.
If David would just refund those unhappy customers - the complaints would magically disappear.
And the Computer can continue to run the world.

#219 Consumer Comment
Yo, Jeff!
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 22, 2012
David DOES have thousands of customers. You should actually read what he's telling you.
Also, if you have an issue with the SYSTEM, please address it.
Dave the man is not the topic at hand.

#218 REBUTTAL Owner of company
As You Can See Law Enforcement, He Isn't Going To Shut Up
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 21, 2012
Hello Jeff,
As before I'll take your post one by one:
"PROVE you use your system (both the scam blackjack and scam oil trading stuff) to make real money."
There are people at my Facebook account all stating they are making money. There is a person named Vinny on my website review section that has said he just made $1800 in 3 days, and he's on my Facebook page as my friend. There are other people also there as my friend who say they are making money. The only person who isn't making money with my system is you, because you have never purchased my system, even though in the beginning of all this you said you had purchased my videos, which come to find out you haven't, and know nothing whatsoever of the code. So you have already proven yourself a liar, maybe you don't have the brainpower to understand that.
"Once you do that, you will have thousands and thousands of clients! Good idea right? Seems fair right??"
Well I've already sold over 500 videos, no thanks to you trying your best to discredit me and call me poor and a pauper renting a room, who tries and tries to make trades but cannot do so, and that I'm going to start another website because that's what scammers do. These are all things you have said about me, all of which are pure lies, because that's what you people at the website Forex Factory do, you lie for a living, that's all you know to do in this life is lie, and so that's what you do professionally, you lie and slander and you enjoy doing it, showing how truly evil you are. Forex Factory is going to receive a lawsuit from a lot of people soon. And we're going to learn of your identity, and then you will pay for what you've done to me and to so many other traders out there, lying and slandering them all so Forex Factory will have more business to it. I give you credit for your nerve, but pity you for your stupidity.
"Since you have failed again and again in a live trading environment to prove anything works the conclusion is simple. IT IS A SCAM and you are a criminal SCAMMER. Simple as that."
Again you speak nothing but lies and speak the exact opposite of the truth, I have proven it over and over and over again more times than I can count now, to thousands of people in a live market. All you do is speak the most outlandish lies in the world and then you expect people to fall for your lies, you are truly pure evil, and I want you to know that whomever you are, I have never once in my life encountered somebody as evil as you are, all you do is speak one lie after another, you know of no truth, obviously you are not capable to speak any truth, all you do is spout on vicious lie after another at me. And this is why I won't rest from this day forward until you are caught and put behind bars, your day is coming.
"You know there are people that show they are trading live everyday which AT LEAST shows they have something legit but your inability so show that clearly shows you are nothing but a liar David."
I am a scientist who have discovered that the entire Futures markets are controlled by a computer program, my videos prove this mathematically, all my clients are happy with what they've learned, my videos have the lowest return rate in the entire industry, and I've sold over 500 of them. I don't need to trade anymore, and in fact looking at the computer screens hurts my eyes really super badly, and therefore I cannot look at them anymore so I don't do any trading at this time. Nor do I need to, now I simply teach people the "code" for the market so that they can go out and make money, of which hundreds of people right now are doing exactly that. But not you, because you have never purchased my videos before.
"I know it, and you know it. ALL THE OTHER BS you spew means NOTHING. IT MEANS NOTHING... Just rheotoric! You know it"
Where is your proof of this? You don't even know anything about the code, you have not purchased my videos, all you're doing is speaking nonsense and lies. Nobody in their right mind would sit here and call me a scam when they have never purchased my videos and doesn't know anything about the code at all. Everything you have said here on this board is a lie, easily proven, in fact you have not stated one fact on this entire board, not one. You have lied about your name, your phone number, your address, you lied that you've purchased my videos, you lied about me personally, everything you've said is a lie. I have never seen anybody lie like this in my life. And you also let it be known who you really are when you said that I've been unfair to the Mason's. How would you know? How would you know I've been unfair to the Mason's? You see Jeff, you are a Mason, and you work for or possible own Forex Factory website, and your whole life and everything you do is based upon lying and deceiving, and this is what you enjoy doing, it's called being evil, where you take pleasure in doing wrong, in lying and manipulating and hurting other people, you enjoy this, and take great pleasure in it, showing how evil you are.
I am calling for criminal charges to be filed against the website "Forex Factory" for "conspiracy" to slander other traders with systems for trading in the industry for the purpose of getting rid of any competition to them. Conspiracy holds a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years in Federal Prison. I David Kuvelas am calling for the owners of the website Forex Factory to be held accountable for hiring people on the Internet to go around slandering people like myself in order to discredit them and their systems to further the financial gain of Forex Factory. Another words I'm calling for putting these online Mafia criminals into prison where they belong. FBI step forward, this isn't a game nor is it a joke, every word I have said is the truth, make no mistake of that, let's put these criminals in a nice little jail cell where they belong, and stop them from doing anymore harm to the community.
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/ForexFactoryScam.htm
By the way Jeff, when you told YouTube my videos were all copyright by Forex Factory and had my videos taken down, your IP will be caught there, and it's caught at Online Traders Central and it's caught at Yahoo for your email. The FBI is going to catch you, and you're going to pay for what you've done to me and to all the other traders out there you've done this to. What you're doing is a conspiracy, which holds a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years.
We're coming for you Jeff and your website "Forex Factory", the ultimate scam website that ever existed before which is going to get shut down.
It is an insult to me that a person like you, the ultimate scum of this planet, would have the nerve to call me, a true honest person who lives an honest and godly life a scam. I will have my justice against you, and I won't rest until I do.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#217 Consumer Comment
Stop your crying David and SHUT ME UP!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 21, 2012
PROVE you use your system (both the scam blackjack and scam oil trading stuff) to make real money.
Once you do that, you will have thousands and thousands of clients! Good idea right? Seems fair right??
Since you have failed again and again in a live trading environment to prove anything works the conclusion is simple. IT IS A SCAM and you are a criminal SCAMMER. Simple as that.
You know there are people that show they are trading live everyday which AT LEAST shows they have something legit but your inability so show that clearly shows you are nothing but a liar David.
I know it, and you know it. ALL THE OTHER BS you spew means NOTHING. IT MEANS NOTHING... Just rheotoric! You know it

#216 Consumer Comment
Wow, Jeff's STILL Obsessed?
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 19, 2012
Ha ha ha, get a life man.
If you don't want to trade Dave's system, then don't! Why are you so obsessed with hating on David?
I see you still fail to criticize the actual system. You are completely focused on attacking David himself.
Do you really have nothing better to do with your life?
Maybe you should invest in these videos and actually give the system a chance. It's pretty good, imo.

#215 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hello Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 19, 2012
Hi Jeff,
As before I'll take your post one by one:
"Still waiting on you proving your personal success of using your self proclaimed CODE on trading the markets and making your millions and also the same with your blackjack CODE! LOL"
Yes I'm going to make a video in a few days showing all 500 sales I've made at Oil Trading Academy, showing the hundreds of sales for $400, and the hundreds of sales of $600, and then within the video I'm going to make fun of you, and ridicule you, and explain to everyone watching the video how you're from Forex Factory, and what you people at Forex Factory have been doing to me, and then within the video I'm going to ask law enforcement to help me find you and shut your Forex Factory website down. And then I'm going to take the video and send it to every FBI office in the USA, send it to every law enforcement agency within the USA, pleading with them to help me find you and shut Forex Factory website down so that you and your ilk won't have the chance to go around slandering good honest people like myself any longer, and put you criminals into prison where you belong.
"PROOF OF EVERYTHING YOU CLAIM is in the pudding you nutjob! RIGHT? right!!!"
Has anyone ever told you that you speak like a child? You do, your level of intellect comes through in the way you write, in the things you say, you think as a child thinks, you throw insults like a child does, like somebody with a reprobate mind does. Having somebody like you throw insults to somebody like me is like a Mcdonalds worker throwing insults at Einstein or at a scientist.
"It will be forever something you refuse to prove and we both know that. You can ramble and ramble and ramble all you want, but you will NEVER PROVE you can success with a live trading room for more than a couple of days and you will NEVER prove any of your crap works. That is the BOTTOM LINE, END OF STORY, CASE CLOSED... NOT EVEN AN ARGUMENT..."
Oh don't worry I'm going to prove it, and in the process once and for all show the world that you are the biggest liar I have ever witnessed before in my life, all so that I can prove to law enforcement which one of us is lying and which one of us is speaking the truth so that I can get their help with shutting down Forex Factory website and throwing you into prison where you belong. The minimum mandatory sentence for "conspiracy" is 15 years, and this is what charge you will be charged with, as this charge is meant for the Mafia, of which you certainly are. You are the Mafia of the Mason's, the Mafia of the Forex market, you are from Forex Factory where you have scammed thousands of people into getting into the Forex market so that your entire Mafia friends can take peoples money from them. All of you are the most evil of human beings and I, David, am going to make you pay for what you've done. And I'm organizing an army of people against you as I'm writing this.
By the way Jeff, I want you to notice how you've gone in to every post that's here and given each of the posts that speak positive about me a thumbs down or a "No", and each negative posts about me a "Yes". You have done this because you want to make it appear that everyone thinks I'm a scam, when in reality it's you who has done this. And obviously you don't have the brainpower to be able to figure out how obvious this is. But I have noted it for record purposes so that I can show law enforcement what you've done, and how you work at Forex Factory, where the whole website is an illusion that you make up for people to trick them, exactly what you're trying to do here.
No matter where in the world you are now, we're going to find you, and you will be in prison soon enough.
And in the video I do Jeff I'm going to make fun of you, and ridicule you, for it is I who am rich, it is I who speaks the truth, it is I who lives in luxury, while it's you who lives in a shack in Columbia, a first class third world loser working for Forex Factory to go around slandering other traders in the business so that Forex Factory will get more business.
Again I'm calling on any and all law enforcement to get involved with this case, we need to put a stop to these criminals for what they are doing to humanity. This should no longer be allowed anymore, I'm calling on all good people to take a stand now and let's put these criminals behind bars.
I am open and ready to be contacted anytime by law enforcement concerning this matter.
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer me.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#214 Consumer Comment
Still waiting...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 19, 2012
Still waiting on you proving your personal success of using your self proclaimed CODE on trading the markets and making your millions and also the same with your blackjack CODE! LOL
PROOF OF EVERYTHING YOU CLAIM is in the pudding you nutjob! RIGHT? right!!!
It will be forever something you refuse to prove and we both know that. You can ramble and ramble and ramble all you want, but you will NEVER PROVE you can success with a live trading room for more than a couple of days and you will NEVER prove any of your crap works. That is the BOTTOM LINE, END OF STORY, CASE CLOSED... NOT EVEN AN ARGUMENT...
RIGHT???

#213 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Now You SEE Why Forex Factory Needs To Go Down
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 18, 2012
Hello Jeff, (From Forex Factory website)
Let's take your post again one by one just like before:
"Now you are ASKING FOR HELP?? Wait... Haven't you been warning me for months and months and months of incurring your wrath and what I can expect right around the corner essentially?? What happened? You type some threats about what you are GOING TO DO into this message board and then go back to sitting on your thumbs and watching "The Matrix" for the 900th time?? LOL That's your strategy???"
Since you are using a fake name and address and phone number everywhere you go online, and since you hide behind fake IP's that you use by going through a proxy server, this is what I have to do, call upon law enforcement to help me find you, because you are a criminal hiding your tracks, all the while you act like you are a normal person, another words you are sick beyond measure. You are what's called a "Mason", a person who worships Lucifer and lies through their teeth about everything under the sun, like calling me, David, an honest person, a scam.
"What are you asking for help for? That goes against everything you have said about me incurring your dangerous wrath etc
doesn't it?? You make all of these incredibly wild accusations, claim to know who I am, claim to have my IP Address, my email address, my home address, who I work for I suppose, and yet, you can do nothing about it... Hmmmmm....Can anyone say IDLE THREATS?? I think so... Fact is, all that you posted as far as announcing who I am is more lies but you are trying to pass them off as truths as if to impress people. Problem is... Nothing you ever say happens or can prove David!"
The truth about you will come out, and I will find out who you are, and when we do then you will pay for what you've done, and I will find someone within law enforcement to help me, you'll see. And right now I'm organizing a lawsuit against your company, Forex Factory, and we're all going to sue you for slandering us all, because this is what you people at Forex Factory do, because you are evil human beings slandering everyone else so that you will gain more business, this is called being evil, and this truth about you is going to come out, and I'm sending our press releases about this, finding someone in law enforcement to help me find you.
"BTW, anyone ever wonder why David threatens to show his massive earnings selling his garbage online but he NEVER threatens to show is earnings from actually USING that garbage he sells? Pretty funny huh? That should say it all right? At least to those with any common sense whatsoever."
You have no clue what you're talking about, you want me to show you which corporations are mine? I don't think so. Have you ever wondered Jeff why you come on here calling me a scam when you don't even know the code? And have never bought my videos before? Why would you do this? The reason is because you are from Forex Factory, and this is what you're paid to do, slander me. You are the one who is poor, while I'm the one who has money.
"He sits in his rented room in his fetal position worshipping some Idol I would imagine he has fashioned to represent his God and
conjures up his reality and tries to develop a following around it. That about right David?"
Tell me, do you know anything about intelligence? Do you know how to have a normal conversation with somebody? Or do you just love to be mean to people? Listen, I already know the answer to that question, and that's why you don't understand what's coming for you, because you're just evil and don't realize what that means, how lost you are in this life, how lost you are in the life to come, you simply don't realize how you've damned yourself like this, the Bible says that all slanders will find their place in the Lake of Fire. And the reason for that is because of the damage you cause when you lie like this, you are causing damage on a very complex level, you are destroying knowledge, destroying truth, you are taking and stealing the truth away from people with your lies. This is why Satan is the liar and the father of all lies, because he is the destroyer, just like you are here to destroy, and it's very sad for you what you do.
"I know, I know.... Hits a little close to home doesn't it? Like I am there WATCHING you!! Dont' worry... I am not. I just know
guys like you. Your a narcissist sociopathic introverted nutjob."
Talking with you is like having a conversation with an 18 year old working at Mcdonalds, not exactly my cup of tea if you know what I mean.
"Keep threatening David. Keep gathering your LEGION OF DOOM to rain down upon me. Keep peddling your scam for anyone
desperate enough to shell out money to think they have some holy grail and lose thousands trying to make it work."
What you call a scam people at my Facebook account say different, there are all kinds of people at my Facebook account who have posted right here on this board for me, and have given me reviews at my website, they have made money with my system, and countless hundreds more have, I get emails everyday about this from people. It feels really good to help people like that Jeff, something you will never know in this life because you are a destroyer, not a creator, don't bring anything good to the world, all you do is bring destruction, and lies, and you destroy people, for this you are deserving of H**l.
"I have been in your live trainings and room brother. I know you know nothing and that is why you don't keep a room open.
Too many people SEE you know nothing and it hurts your scam business of selling after the fact videos where you sell HOPE without PROOF...."
I have made over $200,000 with Oil Trading Academy, more money than you will ever see in your life getting paid the peanuts you're paid to slander people by Forex Factory, it's you who is the pauper, the low life, and it's me who is the guy who has class, and style, and lives a good clean honest life, away from sin, and that's why my face and my spirit shine through, and when people see me on camera they will witness this for themselves. While I'm sure if we saw who you were we would repulse in your appearance.
"Common Sense and Reason brother. That is what I have going on over here. Nutjob rantings that contradict one another on your end and idle threats that go nowhere. What a life David. I bet your RICH FAMILY has nothing to do with you right. But it is because that are evil Mason's right??? LOL"
A "nutjob" as you call it is somebody who would come onto a board like this one and call somebody a scam without even ever having purchased their videos, this is what's called a nut case, and you certainly qualify as one of these that's for sure. Here you are throwing every insult you can think of at me and you haven't even bought my videos, don't know anything about the code, and therefore have shown yourself for who you really are, which is a paid person from the website Forex Factory which is a scam website which goes around to traders like myself and slander them, apparently so your website can make more money. You are the sickest of sick human beings on this planet, and I'm going to see to it that your website is shut down, and that you are thrown straight into prison where you belong.
Again I'm calling on any law enforcement reading this to take on this case for me, I have other traders emailing me now saying that these people at Forex Factory are doing the same things to them as they are me, this is a conspiracy by them to do this to people in this industry, and we need to stop this criminal action.
You can read more about what Forex Factory is doing to me and join the fight against them here:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/ForexFactoryScam.htm
Let's organize ourselves together against these group of criminals, because I'm not the only one they are doing this to, people need to be made aware of what these people are doing, they are pure 100% evil human beings, let's get some justice from these people and put them where they belong.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#212 Consumer Comment
Please stop... this laughing is hurting my stomach!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 18, 2012
Now you are ASKING FOR HELP?? Wait... Haven't you been warning me for months and months and months of incurring your wrath and what I can expect right around the corner essentially?? What happened? You type some threats about what you are GOING TO DO into this message board and then go back to sitting on your thumbs and watching "The Matrix" for the 900th time?? LOL That's your strategy???
What are you asking for help for? That goes against everything you have said about me incurring your dangerous wrath etc doesn't it?? You make all of these incredibly wild accusations, claim to know who I am, claim to have my IP Address, my email address, my home address, who I work for I suppose, and yet, you can do nothing about it... Hmmmmm.... Can anyone say IDLE THREATS?? I think so... Fact is, all that you posted as far as announcing who I am is more lies but you are trying to pass them off as truths as if to impress people. Problem is... Nothing you ever say happens or can prove David!
BTW, anyone ever wonder why David threatens to show his massive earnings selling his garbage online but he NEVER threatens to show is earnings from actually USING that garbage he sells? Pretty funny huh? That should say it all right? At least to those with any common sense whatsoever.
He sits in his rented room in his fetal position worshipping some Idol I would imagine he has fashioned to represent his God and conjures up his reality and tries to develop a following around it. That about right David?
I know, I know.... Hits a little close to home doesn't it? Like I am there WATCHING you!! Dont' worry... I am not. I just know guys like you. Your a narcissist sociopathic introverted nutjob.
Keep threatening David. Keep gathering your LEGION OF DOOM to rain down upon me. Keep peddling your scam for anyone desperate enough to shell out money to think they have some holy grail and lose thousands trying to make it work.
I have been in your live trainings and room brother. I know you know nothing and that is why you don't keep a room open. Too many people SEE you know nothing and it hurts your scam business of selling after the fact videos where you sell HOPE without PROOF....
Common Sense and Reason brother. That is what I have going on over here. Nutjob rantings that contradict one another on your end and idle threats that go nowhere. What a life David. I bet your RICH FAMILY has nothing to do with you right. But it is because that are evil Mason's right??? LOL

#211 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Hello Jeff,
I will respond to your post one by one as before:
"Your Honor, please read the posts of this raving
lunatic on this ripoffreport dialogue and then spend some time on his website
and look for his videos of his paranoid rantings of conspiracy, religious
nonsense, and unfounded accusations of the Masons."
How is my video course a scam? In the videos I clearly talk about the code, if you have bought my videos, what is the nature of the code? How does the code work? If you cannot answer these simple questions then this proves you have never purchased my videos, and are attacking me for other reasons other than my video course. You are from Forex Factory, and this is all going to come out as the truth in the months to come.
"If you will take that along with his admission
of ripping off hundreds of people with his scam blackjack system as well scam
oil trading system for an amount of money from each person he knew would be a
key to getting away with it, what you will find is a narcissist lunatic that
should be locked up before he TRULY harms either himself or others."
Do you see what Jeff just said here? This is a psychological trick being used, notice how he said "along with his admission of ripping off hundreds of people with his cam blackjack system". Notice how he says a falsehood and disguises this as a fact? Another words he says a blatant lie and acts as if this were a true a correct fact, when in reality it's a pure lie being spoken, one deliberately intended to trick and manipulate and brainwash. These Forex Factory people are the most evil human beings I have ever seen, and the FBI needs to put a stop to these people once and for all, before they do this to many more people than just myself, they are slandering many people out there, and we now need to come together and realize who it's been doing this to us, which is Forex Factory. This guy "Jeff" is just a clown working for them, hired to slander other people of success in the business, to give more business over the Forex Factory. These people are the sickest of the sick of human beings on this planet, and they NEED to be stopped.
I have called upon law enforcement to help me put these people behind bars here:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/ForexFactoryScam.htm
This is a call to all good people of conscience, who value honesty and value the truth, if you know anyone of any position high up in law enforcement, ask them to get involved, everybody knows a Judge, or a lawyer, or an FBI agent, I'm now asking for your help in public to get involved, help me to take these criminals down. I can provide proof of what Forex Factory is doing to me, and I know this "Jeff" character is working or from Forex Factory. I'm not the only one he is doing this to, there are other traders he is doing this to, his IP has been tracked over at Online Traders Central as doing this.
Again I'm calling on anybody who may know somebody on consequence to help me take this criminals out, take them down, put them straight into jail where they belong, and not let them slander good honest people like myself anymore.
I am available for contact by any law enforcement concerning this matter.
Thanks in advance for any help any of you can offer me.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#210 Consumer Comment
Your Honor, please read...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Your Honor, please read the posts of this raving lunatic on this ripoffreport dialogue and then spend some time on his website and look for his videos of his paranoid rantings of conspiracy, religious nonsense, and unfounded accusations of the Masons.
If you will take that along with his admission of ripping off hundreds of people with his scam blackjack system as well scam oil trading system for an amount of money from each person he knew would be a key to getting away with it, what you will find is a narcissist lunatic that should be locked up before he TRULY harms either himself or others.
Case closed...
Dave the Henderson, NV WHACKJOB!

#209 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Hello Jeff,
Let me take what you said and respond one by one:
"I have invited you 100 times to come and get me and bring your "world of hurt" that you posses because you are this
"superior being" in every possible way! ha ha ha"
Yes you indeed have invited me many times to come and get you, but the problem is that you won't ever give me your address, or your phone number, or tell me your real name, all you do is say one thing as if it were the truth when in reality there is no truth to it whatsoever. For instance you just said you have invited me to come and get you, but how would I do this when all you do is give fake names and fake addresses to me and everyone else like Online Traders Central? Why don't you go ahead and give me your real name? Or your real address? Or your real phone number? Is this your real email address?
otovarm@hotmail.com
Is this your real address?
Cra. 1b oeste # 1-44 Apt.211 Cali FL 0 Columbia 7/20/2011
If you would be so kind as to tell me who you really are and where you live, my lawyer and I are ready to file a lawsuit against you, so please go ahead and reveal yourself so that you don't need to invite me to come and get you anymore.
"It would be HILARIOUS if it wasn't so sad!
When are you going to start your fake postings from your "satisfied
clients" who are all millionaires monitoring the internet so they can
defend you because they never have anything better to do?? ha ha ha You know...
the happy clients who all sound exactly like you even though they all come from
all around the world?? LOL"
My fake postings? Actually what I'm about to do is record a video and put it up onto YouTube, and within this video I'm going to show my face, and I'm going to show my entire Paypal account and how I've sold over 500 of my videos, and show all these sales, showing and proving mathematically how you're a liar. And I'm going to show the names of the people who have posted here and show that they have bought my videos and what their address is within Paypal and show how their address and the address shown within Paypal match up, showing and proving how you're a liar. Then I'm going to appeal and call on all law enforcement to help me find you and put you into prison, I'm going to show the video to judges, lawyers, detectives, FBI and anybody else who will listen and help me put you behind bars where you and your Forex Factory scum belong.
"Love those stories you make up about me as you continue to make up your own reality and then live in that which drives you
insane! It actually makes me laugh to myself because you are so easy to rattle!"
That's because you are a paid person being paid peanuts per hour to slander me, and we're going to find out what your relationship is exactly with Forex Factory and have your entire website shut down, and the owner thrown into prison. You show yourself here only to "rattle" and cause trouble and bear false witness against me, because that is what you're paid to do.
"Here is the interesting thing. If you were all you say you were, and knew all you say you knew, and were about all you say you were about, you wouldn't be here. You would be a gazillionaire with a huge following (which I realize a narcissist like you longs for) and you wouldn't worry about little old me, who you are so far off base on anyway. But you are NONE of those things and that is why you are here like the little crybaby child you are making false threats you will never follow through on. Pitiful David... Just pitiful... I would say I feel sorry for you but I don't because I don't like scammers like you David. Bottom line"
As you're about to find out this isn't a game, and you're going to pay for what you've done, and now I'm going to get the long arm of the law involved to help make that happen, when I show an FBI agent what you've done to me and can prove it, they may take an interest in this case and help me find you, and prosecute you.
But first I'm going to prove mathematically how you're a liar by showing all 500 of my videos sold within Paypal, proving how much of a liar you are, for if I were actually a scam there would be hundreds of people here screaming I'm a scam, and all that's here is you.
I have made over $200,000 dollars with Oil Trading Academy since March of 2010, that's more money than you will ever see in your entire life, all while you call me a pauper, when in reality you're probably from Colombia and grew up in a shack, while I grew up in Montara California in a $500,000 home, and my entire family is rich....
Trust me, I will make you pay for what you've said about me, and as they say, revenge is a dish best served cold....
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#208 Consumer Comment
GO FOR IT!!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I have invited you 100 times to come and get me and bring your "world of hurt" that you posses because you are this "superior being" in every possible way! ha ha ha
It would be HILARIOUS if it wasn't so sad! When are you going to start your fake postings from your "satisfied clients" who are all millionaires monitoring the internet so they can defend you because they never have anything better to do?? ha ha ha You know... the happy clients who all sound exactly like you even though they all come from all around the world?? LOL
Love those stories you make up about me as you continue to make up your own reality and then live in that which drives you insane! It actually makes me laugh to myself because you are so easy to rattle!
Here is the interesting thing. If you were all you say you were, and knew all you say you knew, and were about all you say you were about, you wouldn't be here. You would be a gazillionaire with a huge following (which I realize a narcissist like you longs for) and you wouldn't worry about little old me, who you are so far off base on anyway. But you are NONE of those things and that is why you are here like the little crybaby child you are making false threats you will never follow through on. Pitiful David... Just pitiful... I would say I feel sorry for you but I don't because I don't like scammers like you David. Bottom line

#207 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Surprise Coming Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Hi Jeff,
I have a little surprise coming for you Jeff, is this your IP address: 98.254.165.57
How come you give your address as living in Westin Florida, and Texas, and Columbia?
How come you are over at Online Traders Central smearing other traders with systems?
You see, I'm working right now with Online Traders Central, they are assisting me and my lawyer and we are finding out all the things you are doing, and do you know what penal codes you are breaking?
You see, you are about to be taken down, a whole world of hurt is coming your way, the fact that you think you can come on here and smear my character and lie about me through your teeth like this shows that you are a psychotic human being.
And I'm coming after you, and will see you in person, try not to pee your pants when that happens because then you will know that you are in the presence of a superior human being to you in every possible way.
Tell me, why do you continue to come on here when you cannot even cite what the code is? Don't you think people are going to see through your lies? You haven't even bought my videos, you don't even know what the code is, don't you think people can see that now?
Or do you think that people are just really super stupid and will just believe the idiotic things you say?
Obviously you take people for being fools.
And you underestimated me, you didn't think I would be able to find you while you're using your fake IP address there in TX, but I have found you and I'm about to make your whole life come to an end, you will be in prison very soon, with the help of the FBI....
Good luck to you Tovar, it's all about to come to an end now....
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#206 Consumer Comment
Update
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Have a somewhat boring and monotonous update to put here. Lest anyone think that anything has changed with David I thought I would let you know you can think again.
Despite all of David's threats against me, which I was obviously not scared for a second, he pursued nothing because at the end of the day, he is cowardice blowhard who threatens people all over the internet who attack him for his lying and scamming ways, but his threats amount to nothing but hot air, because in the end, he is what he is, which is a lying coward.
He tried a few times to start a live trading room this year, as he has done in the past, but just like in the past, it lasted just a few days as he failed to demonstrate a working system LIVE as he can when he posts his AFTER THE FACT videos where he only shows his winners and convinces people he has something figured out, which he obviously does not.
David still lives like a pauper, probably much poorer than 90% of his "clients" who he convinces to buy this system, despite his self proclaimed ability to print money. His last whereabouts was simply renting a room from someone in their house. Big success story right?
He is still spouting conspiracy theories, govt corruption, religious rants, etc. I believe he is still hocking a blackjack system that doesn't work. Anything he can to garner attention and and take advantage of the desperate and naive.
Like I said, a boring and monotonous report but felt it should be updated lest anyone think anything has changed with this guy.
Oh... lest anyone think that he identified me with his absolute certainty and his amazing PI skills, he did not. Just more hot air. I figure most people knew that but just in case anyone thinks this guy has ANY TRUTH in him, fat chance

#205 REBUTTAL Owner of company
May The Real Con Step Forward
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Actually the only person here who is the con is you, and anybody here with the nerve to me, David Kuvelas, a scam.
If you have bought my video course, prove it. Show me one single thing about the code? Can you explain to me what a "key reversal" is? How about a "temp reversal"? Or a "secondary reversal"? Or a "special"?
Tell me anything about those, explain what those mean to me and show me that you have bought my videos? How much do you want to bet you cannot do that? And why not? It's because you've not purchased my videos, that's why.
You, like Jeff, are what's called liars, you are the scum of planet earth, and you have the nerve to call a man like myself, somebody who is honest, and speaks the truth about everything on this planet, and you have the nerve to call me a scam. You should be hung from the nearest tree with a rope. And it's men like myself who have always done this to people like you. People who lie through their teeth, like yourself.
I stand absolutely amazed that you people can even speak this way about me and get away with it, all because you hide behind your fake IP addresses, and behind your fake names, never to come out in the open to be known by the public, so that you can attack me every chance you get and never be caught, never be taken to court, because you do the very thing which you accuse me of doing.
This is always the way you people work, the way evil works, all you know is lies, and accusations, and bearing false witness, and accusing of somebody doing the very thing which you yourself do.
It's said for you, it truly is, because there is something going on much larger than you can begin to understand or comprehend. But that is not my concern. I'm simply here as a real man, 44 years old, defending myself and speaking the real truth of what's going on here, that I am not a scam, I am the epitome of the exact opposite of a scam, so much so I have people here trying the best they can do discredit not only me but my whole entire system itself.
They are the enemy, they do not want people to know the FACT that Oil is controlled in price by a computer program, and I broke this computer code in 2006.
There isn't one post here that is mine other than my own name, not one single solitary post, and if you notice every post is coming from a different part of the world, if it were me then somehow I'm able to be all over the world.
Only an idiot would believe this, and only an idiot would say this, or in this case, the enemy, my enemy, and all peoples enemy that value the truth.
What I speak is the truth, simple as that, and no man can prove it otherwise.
Nobody here calling me a scam has said one thing about the code, not one single thing, because nobody here who is calling me a scam has even purchased my videos, they have no interest in doing that, they simply want people not to learn of this information. I'm sure they are losing millions and millions of dollars from this now.
What's next? They going to try and kill me for revealing this information? They want to put me in jail, now they maybe going to want to kill me? All because I'm the scientist revealing this dangerous information?
And you want to say something really super stupid like I'm the one doing all the posting here? Who is going to believe that?
Let the truth be known and the truth be spoken, I David Kuvelas speak the absolute truth, and no man can take that fact away from me, the Oil market is 100% controlled by a computer program, I'm a scientist and broke this computer code in the year 2006, don't let any of these lying con men take the truth away from you, for this is what they are trying so hard to do.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#204 General Comment
A complete Scam
AUTHOR: Speakfacs - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I purchased his video some time ago, very foolish thing to do after spending countless hours on in and disecting it I realized I was stupid I to buy this garbage. This guy is a real Sociopath Charlatan, He's pretending to be other people and writes his own testemonials. I will call you out you thief and rat I will be willing to share the SCAM so they can see the SCAM he propagates get job you pathetic Piece of crap stop trying to steal off honest working people, Sorry excuse for a human.

#203 Consumer Comment
Good observation
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 15, 2012
Nice to more than bogus posting on this board on occasion. I think you nailed it too. David has pushed a lot of stuff on the internet over the years, all of it garbage. He thrives on not only ripping people off, but the attention he gets doing it. He LOVES to be hated and given any opportunity to pontificate, he is all over it.
A few months ago, he was trying to sell his after the market observations on charts marking where the market changed directions and calling that the "code" and thinking people would actually pay for that! I mean, something a 2 yr old could do and he REALLY thought people would pay for it!
Most recently, he tried to do his live trading room but ONLY if people paid $50 a day! That's right... A DAY! You know how long that lasted? 3 whole days... He actually posted his results showing a small winning day the first 2 days and then the 3rd day a significant loss almost wiping out the first 2 days. So much for 90% accuracy right? After that, no more live trading room which has happened many times before. I expect he got next to no takers on that for that ridiculous rate. It was a pretty desperate and telling move on his part.
Remember all of those over the top threats he made to me both verbally and legally? I kept egging him on to "bring it on" because I knew he was all hot air... Nothing happened of course. He is all show. Just whackjob rantings.
You are right though. Only a matter of time before he is selling some other garbage or getting in some sort of trouble for screwing the wrong person or ending up in prison

#202 Consumer Suggestion
Thought it was funny at first...
AUTHOR: Lucky13 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
At first I thought this thread was really funny. But it started to get quite offensive. I guess all are entitled to their opinion, but this guy has stepped far over the line of decency.
If you want to learn to trade, check out any of the trader forum and blog sites, and look for credible, experienced teaches and mentors.
I think this guy's post says enough about him:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/masoncodebroken.htm
Make your own decision. My guess is he moves to start selling religious garbage, if doesn't end up in prison first.

#201 Consumer Comment
I am using he Code
AUTHOR: Hugo - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 21, 2012
I have been using the strategy devised by the Oil Trading Academy for one week on a demo account.
Before doing that I put time and efforts studying the 12 Videos. Gladly, the clincher was Video # 12, Update 2. The heart of the strategy (CODE) is explained there with clarity. Mr. Kuvelas (David) gave it all.
I needed to sharpen my trading skills for a live account (funded this weekend). I will be adding this
strategy to my decision when I click the Buy or Sell. After trading Commodities for decades, now, the first thing I will be forced to look on the chart is the very bottom line. I did not do that before.
Obviously, the strategy is not perfect. No one has it. And with all sincerity there is one thing I do not like at all: the strategy does not use ANY INDICATORS. Im an indicators trader. Since the early seventies I use Williams %R and since the 90s the CCI indicator. I know, they are lagging crutches but they are powerful. However, now with the input from the CODE readings I will have more confidence when placing the trades.
Many things I like with this strategy (THE CODE). Mr Kuvelas hammers on all his Videos the imperative necessity of a tight stop. This is not a trendy entry but rather, a spot,
where the order is going to work or fail. And it fails once in a while. But when that happens, it gives a small loss. I noticed targets of 20 and 30 cents very common. Before I was scalping for 5 to 7 cents. I recommend these Videos, the strategy and Mr. Kuvelas work.
I do not know Mr. Kuvelas personally. I may have the pleasure of meeting him one of these days since I live in Las Vegas. I had one brief phone conversation and crossed few e-mails. My impression is that of a dedicated professional trader, focused on one thing: trading the crude and teaching his knowledge. My next step is buying what he calls the Macro. Must be something special.
I feel sad this gentleman got embroiled on this ugly argument. I hope both sides will come to their senses and lower the rhetoric or just stop the insults. Both points of view are well taken, and critics are needed to alert us when someone really is trying to get money under a false pretense. Besides, we are just passing by briefly in this short life.
Anyhow, Mr. Kuvelas, thank you for your work and sharing and for bringing another angle on how to make Crude Oil trading a little more profitable. The best! To you.
Hugo

#200 Consumer Comment
OTA - uncomplicated, exciting & profitable.
AUTHOR: eracible - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I've been in Forex & Real Estate for years. I've recently entered Oil, and I've had enough experience on the ground with Oil Trading Academy to know that the system works.
I've also had enough experience with Ripoff Report.com to believe that this site contributes a good service & is a go-to resource to help with Internet purchase-decision making.
Which is why I'm moved to share the results of my involvement with Oil Trading Academy here. And to help correct misconception & what appears to be arbitrary comment.
I live in a City that Allstate Insurance refused to believe (at first) that I owned what I had reported stolen - simply because my City wasn't the typical residence of a successful RE entrepreneur.
What does where one chooses to live, using one's 1st name only, or making a claim have to do with the efficacy of a trading system??? Call it "The Code", "The Force", or anything else, the results I've had testing and using Mr Kuvelas' system have been uncomplicated, exciting & profitable.
As for his being a "scammer" - I completely disagree.

#199 Consumer Comment
Nice to see another common sense post
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 12, 2012
Thanks for taking the time. Just sat in on another "brilliant" webinar he did to generate sales literally just a few days ago. You know what he did on this one? it was a chart from earlier in the day with circles he had drawn at the areas of turns in the market where he said his "secret code" told him of these trade signals. That was his demonstration. Circles on a chart from earlier in the day!
David had the nerve to talk for an hour once again about his incredible talents and skills and discoveries from years ago that predicted these circles on the chart. Crazy stuff
These were the words in his advertisement to bring people in:
This Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:30PM EDT we feature "New Indicator With 90% Accuracy Rate Discovered!"
presented by David of Oil Trading Academy
TO REGISTER NOW, Click Here
Please join us for this exciting one hour session featuring David of www.OilTradingAcademy.com as he discusses this revolutionary new indicator, and the impact it could have on your trading!
This is the best indicator you can use, making other indicators obsolete. Soon the whole industry will be talking about this new Indicator. This is your chance to preview it before everyone learns about it.
The guy has NO SHAME.
Time now for some fake posters to come on here and defend him as usual

#198 Consumer Comment
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!!!
AUTHOR: SCAMBUSTER - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Does it really take a $400 loss before you decide this is a total scam? Secret codes, magic numbers, etc? Computers controlling the entire future's market?
It took all of 2 minutes viewing one of his fake demo's to realize i was watching a simulation. Most brokers have it. it allows you to go back and "REPLAY" a days trading and use paper trades. It's a great tool for testing your idea's, indicators and such. If this guy wants to come clean, he should post a statement from his brokerage with his trading activity. Sounds pretty simple but you will never get any of the market scamming creeps to do that. The first sign of a scammer is they will attack you as soon as you question them. In fact, just show us your entire screen when making those bs video's and prove that your not using a simulation.
Use common sense everyone. 90% accuracy? If anyone could trade any market with 90% accuracy, you wouldn't be making millions, you'd be making billions. You could sit there all day riding that chart up and down up and down. There is no secret code. If there was, he would be a billionaire and I have never seen anyone who's successful that spends all his/her time trying to pawn secrets for $400. there are tons of people selling legitimate IDEA's for trading. Ideas, and tips to help you become a better trader. But you dont really need to spend money on that stuff. If you want to be a good trader, the tools are in front of you. Watch his simulated trading, most of his trades are high probability trades with minimal risk that are easily identifiable if you use the tools and use discipline.
Here are some secrets for FREE. If you are 90% wrong in your trades, you can still be successful and make a good living. How? DISCIPLINE. In my "opinion", the number one reason people fail at trading is they dont use a stop loss. You hear it over and over about someone's account being drained because there stock fell. Why would you trade without putting a stop loss in there? It sounds so simple but tons of traders don't use it. If you learn to use the tools, indicators, charts, etc, you will be able to trade. You will be right MOST of the time, but at the wrong moments. Use a stop loss to get you out of the mistake so you can get back into the trade at the right moment. It's that simple.
Watch this guy try trading live once. It's quit entertaining to say the least. "Hold on, I'm reading the secret code, its telling me that the price is going to jump, hold on hold on, let me read it again, almost there" BAM, the price drops significantly instead. Why? because this secret code changed in the middle of a one minute bar. The secret code that does not change during the trading day, the secret code that stayed the same for two straight weeks two weeks ago. All traders have there little secrets and tricks, but this guys only secret is he is about to scam the hell out of you. And that is his big secret.
Spend 10 minutes researching this guy. It goes well beyond this secret code.
Blackjack codes, magic numbers, masons controlling everything. This guy is running scam after scam and then preaches religion to top it off.
Let me make this clear. I am not associated with anyone on this forum. I am an honest person trying to keep at least one person from wasting any money on this guys scams. and i must say, reading his posts and all his fake named posts has been very entertaining. A guy with a multi billion dollar secret code, and he's worried about finding someone's name and address so he can sue them. If you were making millions, billions with a secret code, would you worry about and stress out about anyone's opinion about your secret code? Or would you just continue to make your millions, billions, enjoy life, and HIRE someone to take care of the rest? Me too, I would make my money and enjoy life.
Ps... There are alot of good women traders. I would trust any woman or even any child to make a buy/sell decision before this guy. Its 50/50 for the blind trader, up or down, I'll take those odds any day over this complete scammer.

#197 Consumer Comment
Oil Trading Academy is not a scam as far as I can see
AUTHOR: Mr Willemsen - London UK - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 25, 2012
Hi,
My name is mr Willemsen - I live in the UK (London) and I have bought the first course of the Oil Trading Academy.
My dealings with David have always been professional and good: every single email has always been answered and the videos were made available upon payment with PayPal.
To me the Oil Trading Academy seems very real and despite what people may find of David, the product does not strike me as a scam: think about it for a minute, there is almost no up sell, like in we month your monthly money for some sort of signals, David is on the Internet with his real name and phone number, which is more than what a lot of people can say and the product seems just fine to me.
In addition, it is not like the product is being sold as a get rich quick scheme and then flogged at a high price with limited number of available units (you know in a shiny box), instead the website plainly does what it says and all info in the product is good. Whenever I did not understand or had additional queries I always got an email back from David and all questions were answered.
This whole Ripoff Report about the Oil Trading Academy seems to me more like a witch hunt and I wonder who may have any benefit in all these accusations ...
No much else to say. I think anyone charging what David charges and does it the way he does it is just on the level. Everyone who things otherwise may think about the following one: why would David charge only what he is charging is this was and bs? He would make it more shiny and up the price to a 999 USD with lots of "bonusses" and maybe some ongoing charge for some bs indicator ... does he? No, just the product with good support and a plain and simple honest price ...
Serious witch hunt if you ask me ... sounds like someone is personally out to get David ...
Mr Willemsen
PS feel free to send me your email address if you do not believe that I am a real client of David, living in the UK, I'll be happy to send you a picture with a newspaper to prove it !

#196 Consumer Comment
Can I SPAM YOU MY SECRET???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2012
David at it fast and furious. Today he had 3 successful demo trades in a row and of course you are gonna hear about it and LISTEN to how calm David is when doing these trades because he knows he doesn't have to post them if they don't work out but he will if they do. This arrived in my email today:
Greetings Traders,
If you know the Secret Code you can easily trade like I do, and become rich from it, able to make as much money as you want. I recorded all 3 of my trades today and here they are one by one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B7O2sDkhb0&feature=plcp&context=C41e899bVDvjVQa1PpcFOgtTM6iitVH3EhEW7Q9TffONI-kMyeDWY%3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xdNzS8X9A&feature=plcp&context=C415aa22VDvjVQa1PpcFOgtTM6iitVHx3aWXYYICtuOX4zw9xoIDo%3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO2jQsM5v14&feature=plcp&context=C415aa22VDvjVQa1PpcFOgtTM6iitVHx3aWXYYICtuOX4zw9xoIDo%3D
Don't allow yourself the luxury of being skeptical any longer. If you want to become rich trading you have found the right person to show you the way. Not only can you buy my videos and learn of the code, but in a few days to a week I'm starting a new charting service which is going to chart the code everyday, so that you SEE the code each and every day, learning the code and make your own fortune from using the code. This isn't a joke my friends, nobody can prove what they say like I can, and like I have and am continuing to do. I'm going to make you rich with what I'm going to teach you, but first you must put down the skepticism and make the first step towards financial freedom and riches if that is what you desire.
When you're ready, I'm here to teach you the ultimate system of trading and make you rich.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823
Oil Trading Academy, 401
Via Sonador, Henderson, NV 90012
Looks like David's house that he rents a room has an accepted offer so he will have to move soon.. Where ya headed David you nutjob you? When you gonna start posting your charts showing your "code" which is nothing more than price action and patterns? If you are gonna do that, surely you will be admitting there is not code but simply common high probability patterns and PA which you admitted in your webinar the other day right?

#195 Consumer Comment
Dennis
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 19, 2012
Hate to tell you Dennis is you only got 20 cents it is not $1.00 - 20 cents is 20 cents.
Life is full of would have could have should have's
If it works for you great - for me there is nothing there and I know how to trade.
David looks at time of day, price actions and maybe time and sales - that's it.
There is no CODE - if there was he could explain it in black and white.
And there is no giant computer controlling the world and the markets.

#194 Consumer Comment
Aren't these traders suppose to be too busy
AUTHOR: Brett - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 19, 2012
Reading from comments above, it looks like David's client/customers should be very busy with their lives in trading to worry anything about a report on ripoff, at least thats what I was told between Fransca and Randall, so why are you guys still spamming here with same text again, stop trying to sell products, we don't need your testimonial, people come to ripoff are not looking to buy products, although you can certainly post them on Oil trading academy, this place is for real stuff guys... lets give Jeff and David some room to battle out instead of posting fake testimonials.
Waste viewers' time to scroll through junks.

#193 Consumer Comment
Support
AUTHOR: Dennis - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 19, 2012
I am a new purchaser of David's method. I am over 70 and have traded for many years both successfully and not. I've seen most of what is out there and there is a lot of junk. This isn't one of those. I don't care what the nay sayers are writing his concepts have merit. Any price action trader can benefit from his knowledge.
I got an email out of the blue regarding a 1 hour webinar which I attended, but it was to short to draw any conclusions. Later I got an email from Global Futures about another of his webinars of 3 hours duration. I attended, took one of his trades and made $200.00. His other 2 trades were a win and a loss. I called him, talked for 5 minutes and bought both courses. Friday I took 2 trades and made $400.00. The second trade was a $1,000.00 trade, but being old and conservative I just took the 20 tick exit. Today I took 2 trades, one pre US oil market open and one during. Still being conservative +$400.00. David demonstrates all his trades, but I only take the easy ones. You won't know these unless you take the course. He doesn't say which one are the easiest, but with a little study you can pick them out.
David may be a little esoteric in his presentation and his naming, but don't let that deter you. His program gives you a framework in which to trade and all you have to do is execute. He gives you valuable tips on support and resistence areas for the oil market that you see working with his code daily; also gives you good tips on how to enter a runaway trend trade. I backtested his work over a few months this weekend. I may have been able to pick it up a little faster than newer traders because I have traded for a long time, but it is definitely doable.
I will not get caught up in this controversy as it is ridiculous and will not respond to anything negative pointed at me. Don't even think about calling me a David fake. However, I may continue to moniter this site from time to time and will update how I am doing with his ideas.

#192 General Comment
Rules fo the System.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 19, 2012
If you want rules for the system, buy the videos. And yeah, Macro is better, but you have to master the fundamentals of the Code first. Buy the code, use that to make money to get the Macro.
Btw, I got David's Blackjack videos too. AWESOME! It ain't card counting, but it wins.

#191 Consumer Comment
Have to agree with Jeff
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 19, 2012
Was on the second webinar - nothing in the code at all. David watches the clock at 18 minutes after the hour, it is going to reverse.
I don't see him trading at 80-90% that he quotes. Some times the trades are guesses and that is why sometimes he wins and sometimes he loses.
Would have like to see his trading on Thurs and Friday when the gyrated so badly and quickly - lose your 20 pennies real quick. But eventually when trying to catch a falling knife you when - but keep those stops in or you will lose your shirt!
I have not seen anyone on this forum definitively state some RULEs and successful trade.
All I hear is the 'Macro' codes is better - then why bother selling the 'Code' if it isn't very good!
Just my humble opinion.

#190 Consumer Comment
I think you meant "loser"
AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 18, 2012
Here is an easy way to remember which spelling to use: you are a "loser" (noun), while your mother is "looser" (adjective).

#189 Consumer Comment
Trade Oil from someone with experience
AUTHOR: chuck - (Virgin Islands (US))
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 18, 2012
I am a futures trader and have been for three years.
ES,TF,YM,6E,6B,grains,metals,energy.
I make money. I have tried many trading rooms and bought many trading courses.
Oil trading academy comes from someone who has watched oil trade long enough to learn the quirks of this market. Every market has it habits and tendencies. They can change and often do.
What is offered is for real and NOT a SCAM. All information is current and valuable.
$400.00 for the secret code is a bargain for all the time you will save learning a new instrument.
The macro code is more valuable. Buy the secret code and the money you make will let you buy the macro code. I have been using the same broker and this is a great deal with great people if you don't need someone to hold your hand. All this for $1000.00 is a steal! Go some where else and try and get a better deal. You won't! So many traders lose because of bad advice and costly brokers(forex).
Who cares where David lives...whats with that?? How does a web site look fishy?? Does anyone really need to know where you live to decide weather the information is valuable?? Some pretty stupid statements. The person making these statements is not a trader. Just another looser!

#188 Consumer Comment
And the award for most sock puppets goes to.....
AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 18, 2012
The oil trading guy! Granted he is a bit low-rent, but he does work his but off to try to fool people!

#187 General Comment
Scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 18, 2012
The only scam you will find with Oil trading is the chart which is computer controlled and not real trading.
Fransa

#186 Consumer Comment
Why all the hate......
AUTHOR: Dave - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 15, 2012
Ok, its really simple, it works - with some personal time invested, anything thats worth having takes some time and effort. David has discovered something that once you understand how it works it can change your life.
Regarding customer service - I've made several on-line purchases, David provides the best service that Ive experienced at answering questions and trying to help with understanding his material, in fact I would say that up to this point, he has gone far above and beyond what was required, i would like to take this opportunity to publicly say THANK YOU!!!!!
I have some advice for All the haters - learn his material, make some money, take a vacation and start enjoying life instead of spreading all the hate.

#185 Consumer Comment
OK. He posted his webinar
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 15, 2012
For ANYONE who has the patience to sit through over 3 hours of a webinar with David, he posted the webinar on his website. Here is what you will observe, which is what I have been stating ALL ALONG...
1) First of all you get to listen to him rant and rave about how he is basically the smartest guy in the world and he is the ONLY one who knows this "code" he discovered 6 years ago and it hasn't changed still and it is 90% accurate which is impossible unless you have his CODE etc, etc. and he can predict the exact direction of the market 24 hours and day 5 days a week etc. That is always a joy to listen to and he does that several times for those that like to hear him spew the drivel
2) You can count dozens and dozens of times where he "points out" hindsight signals. He does that over and over again like most charlatans.
3) I would say over 100 times or more he says things like "We are a little tricky right now but it will mostly likely do it go higher or maybe not It may come down here. I do have a short entry but I am going to wait a little bit and take the next one. OK.. Hang on a second. Looking for an entry. It may be a long entry. Still waiting. I am waiting for the code to reveal itself to me up or down. One or the other. The code will tell me which way and I know with precision at all times what it will do. It is crazy people will call it a scam It is ironic to me OK. I am getting a long entry No wait Looks like it is
coming down a little more Stand-by... Listening for the code here Its a little bit slow Its most likely going to take off higher and break that previous high We will wait OK Waiting Watching what it does. Still waiting. A little bit tricky here. I am now deciding which code to use so I can get the right
entries as there are multiple codes and it is important to know which one to use so you can get it right I am trying to establish which code I am going to use. The code is unlike anything you have ever seen before. Please guys dont message me anymore I need to concentrate (earlier he invited people to IM him with questions Now he is asking they dont so he can concentrate on the code)
Complains of it being so slow when COMMON KNOWLEDGE is that (CL is very slow at lunch hour but he doesnt seem to know that.)
OK. Getting a long entry here. But dont like it that much
OK Not going to take it. OK. Now I can take questions.. I have to wait for it to break one way or the other. I can take questions now.
Someone asked.. Does the code change everyday? David's answer yes and no... he tried to elaborate but contradicts himself but eventually reveals there are like "7 codes" I think is the number he said.
I can't tell you how many times he said the MACRO code is 10 times more powerful than the "secret code" but it was A LOT and he actually made the statement that you just pay $600 for the macrocode and in your first trade you will make $1000 AND THAT IS 100% GUARANTEED... lol
Countless times he would do very contradictory statements of which way the code was saying the market was going all the while he wasn't trading anything but when it would eventually go one way or another to any extent, he would say in hindsight "see it went long like I said it would" suddenly forgetting how many times he said it was going short and vice versa.
His said many times his macrocode is 20 penny stops and 100 penny exits and designed to set it and walk away so you don't have to stress it. Toward the very end, when the market tanked, he waiting for it to bottom so he could catch the retrace (a very common trade) and he said THIS IS THE MACROCODE and he shouted this was the 100 penny minimum or maybe even 200 penny trade... (it went about 50 pennies and then came back down eventually and would have taken his stop if you were to do what he said his instructions were for the all powerful macrocode).
A ton of dialogue of subjective talk which is not unusual with charlatans but it is all here to see if you want to take the time to watch the video. If you end up believing David knows something no one else does after watching this video, then you deserve what you get, because he does not and the video will show that.
Also, and his is important, David FULLY admits he is merely looking for occurences of various types of patterns, which he constantly denies when asked. You can hear it many, many times. He is merely a common pattern trader as well as using support and resistance etc. There is nothing wrong with being that, but he always denies being that while preferring to convince people he knows something unique that no one else does etc so he can be a "God" essentially in your eyes. It is just patterns he is looking for and when i bought the "secret code" videos, he rarely talks about patterns, it is all about TIME and yet that is never mentioned ONCE in this video because he know that is BS but it makes for good consiracy theory so that is what he tries to sell to make you believe he knows something no one else knows etc.
Finally, David is offering to post after the fact screen shots or maybe videos daily on his website to struggling people who bought the code and he will SHOW where to have looked for entries after the fact which would again mean nothing more than pattern entries etc that he would have to show like any person demonstrating something to someone after the fact.
In conclusion for anyone taking the time to read this:
1) David admits he is nothing more than a common pattern trader. You will hear that many times in the webinar. he admits the term "code" throws some people because of the term itself. The microcode is looking for common patterns and occurences on the 1 minute and the macrocode is looking for the same on a longer time frame. That's it
2) Even though that is all David is, you will gather there is a TON of subjectivity in listening to David talk as he is calling the market both ways at any given time and really struggling while calling 10 x more trades in hindsight. For a common pattern trader, you can listen to him really struggle and be really wishy washy so you know it is very difficult for him just like it is for any trader because there is no "code" otherwise he wouldn't struggle like he does.
3) As I have said, I don't know that David can't trade (I am quite sure he does not for a living that is why he rents a small room) but I am quite certain you will learn NOTHING with his "secret code" videos because I have them and I have not seen the macro code but if it is anything like the "secret code" it is useless - His MACROCODE may be OK it is hard to tell BUT he seemed to be admitting often that his "secret code" videos MANY people were struggling with and that is why he made the MACROCODE and he kept pushing the MACROCODE stuff during this webinar so who knows? Everyone knows it is a lot easier to be more accurate on long timeframes than it is on short timeframes so maybe that is why he is pushing it. However, I would totally disagree with 20 penny stops and 100 penny exits etc. But longer timeframes are much easier to see trades. That is common knowledge.
I go back to my advice to David. Call it what it is, teach something of value, stop acting you know something no one else knows and pretending something else is controlling the markets because you clearly can't call market direction at any given time as you say you can. TELL THEM YOU STRUGGLE just as you have on all your "live" demos because while you are looking for high percentage "patterns" not some "code". The patterns are simple to create a statistical probability advantage and proper money management does the rest which is Trading 101 standing the test of time concepts. If you just do this and teach it properly, no one would have issues with you. But you don't do this and you don't teach it properly. You are all but admitting the "secret code" videos are garbage right?
If you will just do that and stop pushing garbage that clearly doesn't teach that or anything really, you can make an honest living. From what I was hearing you say, you MAY be hinting moving in that direction, which is great if you do.
Please stop the fake posting on here with pretend supporters.
Again, everything I just pontificated about here you can watch the video and see for yourself on his website.
Meantime, I still haven't been, nor will ever be served as David knows it is a waste of time because I have never lied about anything.

#184 Consumer Comment
What a successful day
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 15, 2012
David, what a wonderful day. You made it again. I mean to me the webinar was successful, good turn up (over 70 attendees) and a fantastic experience. A lot was learned, not how many trades were taken but what drives David to take those winning trades and the answer off course is the power of secret code.
I am happy to hear that Jeff spared some of his time to witness this. If you think this does not work, why both with the webinar. Stop your hatred and join the team.
David, thank you for your generosity. Well done.

#183 Consumer Comment
Just got off of David's webinar
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 14, 2012
I don't want to say too much because I REALLY want him to post it to show it in its entirety before I comment. He was 2 for 3 this time as far as what he demoed. I don't want to say anything because I REALLY want him to follow through with POSTING it for all to see how he talks and how subjective his language is. I found myself laughing out loud A LOT but maybe its just me, right??
Let's see if he does. Understand this... I really WANT him too put it up for all to see and when he does so, I will put my summary of what it was like and what happened. If I say something now, I am afraid he won't post it like he PROMISED... Remember David promises stuff all the time but he never does what he says so let's see if he does it first.
I will have my field day then otherwise if I do it, he won't post it and it will be my word against his.
Thanks

#182 Consumer Comment
lol, maybe he will sue me too!
AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 14, 2012
The posts where David threatens to beat "Tovar" up are classic, and they give some insight into his socioeconomic background (well, that and the fact that he thinks a 200k condo is something to brag about).
I took a look on his site, and if his claims were even close to reality, he would be a billionaire in no time. Frankly, his site is such an obvious scam that whoever pays him $400 deserves to lose it. A fool and his money and all that...

#181 Consumer Comment
I'm big fan of this new Ripoff blog
AUTHOR: Brett - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 14, 2012
You should read the rest of it, its pretty interest just ignore the advertisements that usually follow David's post, David is suing Jeff for the past 4 months (still pending) and I'm still waiting for that big climax to this story of David vs. Jeff... somehow David's lawsuit is not reaching Jeff and now his admitting David got Jeff's legal name wrong or something.
LOL, this is one of those funniest scammer story next to P-P-P-P-PowerBook Prank by another Jeff (not sure if they are the same Jeff). Guys keep up the good post, it really helps me past my day in office.

#180 General Comment
Boring Naysayers, A Summary.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Well I can see that Tovar and his friends still have nothing to do than hang around on the net trying to tear down successful people, so that they can feel less like losers in comparison. That is very sad. But I guess not everyone can be successful in life.
Allow me to summarize Tovar's position:
David teaches stuff that is valid, but he personally can't trade the stuff he teaches.
David teaches stuff that is invalid.
David teaches stuff that is "trading 101."
David teaches stuff that no one has ever heard of before.
Oh yes, and the myriad personal attacks. David is this, David is that, bla bla bla therefore if David says the sky is blue it must be some other color.
David lives in a condo, therefore he must not be successful. (Condos are a great investment right now. Maybe the truth is merely that David is not only a successful trader but a shrewd investor in real estate as well.)
Oh yeah, one more, David cherry picks his videos. (Even it is not possible to reset Strategy Runner demo accounts to zero. It logs your total gains and losses for the day, so if you had lost previously in a trade, it would show up on the trading pad.)
The fact is David gives his real name and contact info, thus opening himself up to all sorts of harassment by people who have nothing other to do in their entire lives. Meanwhile people like Tovar hide behind fake IDs and anonymity to smear an honest man who is just trying to conduct his business like a normal person.
And by the way, I've posted my own charts and my own trades numerous times. And no, I'm not David, but what difference does that make? The charts speak for themselves.

#179 Consumer Comment
Holy moly - this David guy sounds like quite the sleezeball
AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I only read about 1/2 the thread, but it is obvious this guy has about a dozen identities on here, all "praising" his system. First of all, anyone that promises you a winning system in ANY market - stocks, commodities, forex, whatever- is full of it. Unless you have inside information, you cannot beat the market long term (that is practically the definition of a 'market').
But what I find absolutely hilarious is that this slime-ball claims he is successful because he owns - wait for it - a one-bedroom apartment that is worth less than 200K?? I mean with that kind of "wealth," it would seem that not only is he no good at trading oil, he is not even good at convincing OTHERS he can trade oil!
Hey you guys should follow my roulette system; it is so good it allowed me to by this '96 Yugo!
Oh and David, feel free to sue me as well. You seem to have really nailed the other guy to the wall with your legal prowess.

#178 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You Are Pathetic
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
No Tovar, it seems you are the pathetic one, you don't appear to even live at the address you reported, you are nothing but one big liar Tovar, and I doubt at this point this is even your real name either. But don't worry, I'm going to find out who you are, and where you live, and when I do I'm going to nail you, no matter where you reside on planet earth.
But make no mistake, nobody here believes one word of your nonsense, you are the biggest liar I've ever seen in my 44 times around the sun, you deserve death, but I'll let God judge your soul....
I'll let a court and a Judge judge your actions and libel defamation of me here on this board.
You are what is called a professional liar, you get paid to lie on the Internet and slander....
Again, you deserve death......
Make no mistake about that.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#177 Consumer Comment
Empty words... Empty threats... blah blah blah
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
What's the matter David? Can't afford to travel? You on some sort or probation you pathetic loser?? I wouldn't doubt that knowing you. You afraid to leave your tiny room or maybe your bubble?
You can still serve me right? What's stopping you? You keep threatening, threatening, threatening over and over and over again but you know what??? NOTHING... Absolutely NOTHING just as I told everyone about you.
You are pathetic David.

#176 Consumer Comment
When the student is ready the teacher appears
AUTHOR: Larry - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
This is a rebuttal to the report against David of Oiltradingacademy.com.
I have purchased David's Secret Code and Macro Code not too long ago. I have contacted David over the email and also spoken with David over the telephone. I have not known David before and I have not known him long enough to call him a friend even though I feel he is a friendly and a nice person. Very helpful.
I have no incentive to pay David a compliment except from knowing him having purchased his products.
I think David is not a scam , he is a trader and very experienced in what he does. Speaking with him he has a depth of knowledge.
In the secret code in the first video he mentions so many times that one has to get used to small losses like 20 pennies in the Oil Market . He is right we have to get used to losing and keep loses small. Trading is ,in my opinion very difficult. Our biggest challenge is our selves and our fears especially fear of losing money.
It is irrelevant where david lives or how he lives. He is selling education and experience . If we have spent time learning and trading as I have , one will appreciate where he comes from. There are no fast tracks to riches.... the student has to be ready ... David is a teacher if the student is ready.
I wish David well and I am grateful that he has shared his secret , it gave me a different insight ...I would recommend David ...as a tool in ones quest for market mastery ....a very difficult task I might add...
David has also shared his stock trading methods with me ... I can tell from his advise that he is a straight shooter and a good person...
I wish david well and all the best in his trading . Thank you for sharing...
Larry

#175 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Once Again Jeff Lies Through His Teeth
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
The only person on here who uses his false name is Jeff who is really Tovar Octavio....
Tovar Octavio (Jeff) apparently has a serious problem telling the truth, every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie, and tomorrow I'm going to prove that in front of 85 traders in real-time and record the entire 3 hour long Webinar to prove to the world who the liar is and who the genius is.....
I can tell you one thing though Tovar, you are seriously lucky I don't come over to your house and knock every one of your teeth down your throat for saying the lies you've said about me here, and too bad you're such a sissy boy you won't meet me anywhere so that I can show you what a sissy boy that you are.
But don't worry chump, I'll be seeing you in court where you will wet your pants, say you're sorry, and beg my forgiveness.....
Watch and see Tovar.
And if that were not an option for me, trust me, I would be at your house and I would show you which one of us is the man and which one of us a lying punk.....
When you grow up and become a man, you let me know.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
702-473-5823

#174 Consumer Comment
Just an update
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
David is still a scammer.
David does use his REAL name and address.
His videos online reflect nothing about how he tries to trade live for folks. You won't even see a hint of similarity because he doesn't trade that way. David doesn't trade at all with real money because he is not successful at it. He is successful at putting after the fact videos online and leading people to believe he has a "code" which is just laughable. David does nothing but simple ABC trades and looks for momentum etc but he can't do it successfully despite him understanding Trading 101 concepts. Anyone can read forums or read trading books and understand patterns etc, but few can trade successfully, including David. So it is the old adage, if you can't do, teach. Except what he sells, teaches NOTHING and is a fraud.
As to your inquiry about him serving a lawsuit. As I told you earlier with 100% certainty. It has not happened and WILL not happen. At the end of the day David is all talk and NO ACTION.
Really nothing else to report. I see David's other personalities are still posting nonsense on here.
Once again, all I have ever said is the truth and all David has claimed and stands behind are lies. Period.

#173 Consumer Comment
*****OIL ALERT: Anyone can 'Google' this- DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS, and watch that video....
AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
on the web to understand why oil prices surged in 2008.
Feel free to stay at this site and type in the following and read the Ripoff Reports for additional information-
EXXON
BP
MOBIL
OIL
OPEC

#172 Consumer Comment
No interest in buying what your selling
AUTHOR: Brett - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Please stop advertising, I don't buy junks or services online, I get all the knowledge I need for free. I didn't question your identity.... but just a side note, if you really want people to believe you then you should stop trying to advertise to people...
Now since you are busy with your business of trading and stuff, please stop posting back on ripoff and waste my time scrolling through, I want to see Jeff and David in action \^o^/

#171 General Comment
Nail Jeff
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Yeah.. you are quite correct Randall us successful traders don't have much time hanging around here, just popping in here now and again,would love to see David nail Jeff:)
I am still Fransa from South Africa doing well with my oil trading on David's system

#170 General Comment
Boring Naysayers
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 12, 2012
Most of us using David's system are too busy being successful to spend time on boards like this. It's only the people who have by their own testimony, failed at trading David's system who have time to spend stalking people around the net talking ridiculous nonsense. This is because they have also failed at life.
If you want to see my trades from today go here: http://www.fcreview.blogspot.com/
If I have time and inclination, I will continue to post them. I made 65 pips today using David's system. And that's after exiting the overnight Macro Code trade early, so I could sleep without monitoring it. That would've been about another 100 pips, as you can see on the charts I display.
And no, I am not David.

#169 Consumer Comment
Any follow ups?
AUTHOR: Brett - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 12, 2012
Its been a week since last follow up message from David and Jeff....
Guys just to want you all know that I have been following this store for over two months now, so any follow up on this report? Are we about to get to climax? Lawsuit filed (yet David?) and court order send (yet David), Jeff open the letter for court date (yet Jeff?)
Jeff did you get a court order with David's real name and home address? If you did you should post his real info online as well. Readers like me are very interested to know real address.
This is like reading a story on detective and a psychopath going on and on on the internet and real time too (LOL),
Please someone make some good updates, and preferably the primary characters not those side pseudo characters (David)..
Brett
PS Really want to see if David got the balls to file the suit. Or Jeff got the balls to counter suit (or....) lol

#168 General Comment
US Dollar tied to Oil
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 05, 2012
Everybody knows the price of Oil is manipulated. This is because the US dollar is "pegged" to oil as a strategic commodity. Nixon took us off the gold standard in the early 70s and created the "petrodollar."
The very function of the "working group on financial markets" as a subgroup within the "exchange stabilization fund" is to protect the US dollar from outside attacks against our currency and our economy in general. That's no great mystery.
Every nation that has a currency has it's own exchange stabilization fund.

#167 Consumer Comment
*****OIL ALERT: Anyone can 'Google' this- GOVERNMENT UNCOVERS OIL PRICE MANIPULATION, and...
AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 05, 2012
read the related articles on the web.
Then 'Google' the following and watch the video and read the article on the web-
DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS
THERE IS NO GAS SHORTAGE

#166 General Comment
Personal Attacks
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 04, 2012
No one cares who "almost" bought the videos. No one is required to do so. If you have an issue with David's system, feel free to post it. Maybe some of us can answer your questions. If you don't want to use David's system, that's great too. Maybe you have something that works better.
So why do people have to come on these websites and make all these personal attacks against the messenger? Obviously because they have nothing better to do. Nobody likes a hater.

#165 General Comment
@Hans
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 04, 2012
See if you can find my IP address and tell me it comes from David's computer. And before you do that please go read all my posts here. I am sorry for all you sheeple that just take what you read on a scam site at face value..I am sorry that cause of your negative attitudes that you loose out in life.
Fransa

#164 Consumer Comment
AMEN Hans and congratulations Jon!!!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Way to go Jon. I am very happy you got a refund from this internet spammer and scammer.
Hans, thank you for telling of your situation to prove David fake posts all over the internet. While it is obvious he does this because his posts all sound the same and it is a ploy by all internet spammers pushing JUNK to convince the public it is something of value, I appreciate you coming on here to confirm it. I am sorry he invaded your site to push his crap and unfortunately, he hits wherever he can find but that is what spammers do. There is NO moral compass whatsoever.
I do agree with Jon that you can never argue with David hoping to change an evil guy like him. I am so disgusted that he not only screws people, but he berates them after he does it. Guys like him are just a cancer on society but they are too small time for law enforcement to care and $400 is a small enough amount that people don't make a big deal out of him and he knows this and relies on these facts to continue his scamming. He doesn't need a lot of suckers to make a nice living so this is what he does everyday and that is why he is crying like a little child about his scamming income going down.
What a sorry, pathetic, low-life loser of a human being.

#163 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Changes Nothing
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
None of that changes the fact that the Oil market is controlled in direction by a computer program, and that I as a scientist broke the code in 2006. I'm the only human being on this planet who broke the code, and nobody on this planet knows the code like I do. And nobody on this planet can prove it like I can and like I have. Traders from all over the world are now making fortunes using the Secret Code and Macro Code.
If people want to learn the code, then they have to come to me, whether they want to or not. And the fact is I'm a very friendly and nice person who has helped hundreds of people learn to trade Oil, and obvious you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#162 Consumer Comment
I almost bought the videos
AUTHOR: Hans - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
About a week ago, I saw an ad for Oil Trading Academy so I checked it out. Looked pretty shady so I checked out ripoff report. I could care less about what consumers say, but when the owner comes on and makes delusional comments, that's a red flag.
I decided NOT to buy based on David's comments and David's comments alone. His unethical behavior of listing the name and address of an unhappy customer is a big no no and for that he is not getting a dime from me. His unprofessional, rude remarks, calling people idiots for not finding success is his videos is appalling. He is a disgrace on the investment community and he should shut down his business and think about working in a back room at McDonalds.
I wasn't even going to post a comment here since I never bought his videos, but I just had to warn people that he must be a scam since I'm a WEBMASTER at a finance blog and received a bunch of spam comments about joining Oil Trading Academy. Not only was there a poster, but there were posts with different names under the same IP address all claiming to have used the code to make money.
Next time, if you're going to spam my site, try not to be so obvious by posting your own testimonials from the same computer.

#161 Consumer Comment
PayPal Refund
AUTHOR: Jon - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
As everyone knows i bought David's beginner videos and i was an unhappy UK consumer. I was vilified by David and became the "UK f*g" lol! I Have no intention to labor the issue.....you will never win with an individual like David, its best to get what you need, and get out as quick as you can!
I complained to PayPal, and i now have my refund.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5615/refund.jpg
That is why this will be my last post here.....i am done now and all this has cost me is a little pride. I can deal with that....we all make mistakes. I am however more educated and i will be a little more cautious from now on.
I suggest if anyone else is unhappy with their purchase, don't spend anytime debating the issue with David, simply apply for your refund....for the sake of your sanity lol.
Goodbye....FOREVER!

#160 General Comment
Jeff's Emotional Meltdown
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Jeff, I am a customer of David's website. I have all the videos, including the MACRO code. I don't care if you don't believe me. Fact is, you're obsessed with the messenger, not the message.
Jeff can't criticize the actual SYSTEM, because he is not listed in David's customer files. He never bought the videos! How does he even know what he is talking about? He does not and cannot.
Let's look at the substance of Jeff/Torvo's claims. First he claims that David's system is "trading 1o1." Then he claims that it's something so new no one's ever heard of it. First he claims that the system is successful, but that David himself is personally unable to trade it. Subsequently, he claims that the system is not successful. At times, he even claims there IS no system! However it is impossible to know whereof he speaks, because he doesn't even have the videos!
Most of Jeff/Torvo's arguments are personal attacks against David. David is a loser, David is pathetic, David should change the name of the system (apparently he thinks that would make it work better,) David should sell boner pills. David this and David that. He is obsessed with David.
He also accuses ME and others of being David. In his hyperbolic madness, Jeff sees David everywhere!
If anyone wants to know my true identity I will reveal it. I live in the midwest. I've been trading David's system on a demo account for about a month now and I'm having a great time with it.
However I ask: WHO CARES? Even if David did post here under other names, would that mean that his system doesn't work? Hardly. Jeff/Torvo has and will continue to do and say anything so as not to deal substantively with the matter at hand and that is David's system.
Furthermore, Jeff/Torvo seems to HAVE NO LIFE outside of these naysaying websites. He might even contribute to society in some way if he actually found something to legitimately complain about. But the rest of us don't have our entire lives to spend engaging in personal attacks against successful people, because we are successful ourselves. We're too busy doing that.
Ironically, if Jeff/Torvo would actually GET David's videos and learn the system, he might be too. But I'm not holding my breath.

#159 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Do You See How Tovar Just Keeps Saying Same Thing?
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Tovar (Jeff) just keeps saying the same thing over and over again, that everybody here is me doing the posting, even when their IP location shows they are coming from all over the world.
This is how this guy operates, his whole business at Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army is to lie to people to fool them into believing there are successful traders there so that people will click on the ads up top and to the left and then sign up for one of the brokers they advertise. This is called an "Introducing Broker" and they make $125 to $250 each time somebody signs up. This is why they put on an elaborate hoax to fool everyone into believing there are successful traders at these websites, and that Forex Peace Army is there to help you so that you don't become scammed, when in reality it is they themselves that are the scam. Same exact thing with Forex Factory.
Tovar (Jeff) is the only person here who has hidden his real name, everybody else I know who they are with the exception of Biffco, Tovar Octavio (Jeff) is the only person out of everybody who has hidden their name here, and the reason for that was to attack and slander me and use libel defamation with clear intent of malice. This is why in a courtroom he is going to lose, but more than that I will get the FBI interested in this guy by showing them who this guy Tovar (Jeff) is, and showing them the conspiracy that they are running. Conspiracy is a minimum mandatory 15 years in Federal Prison, and this is what I'm going to nail Jeff (Tovar Octavio) on, and help the FBI nail this guy once and for all, so that these websites can no longer scam people anymore, and so that he will finally stop being able to lie about me here.
Nobody should have to go through this in this life, and it's only because of these types of people like Tovar that we have to, some people in this world are just liars, that's all they know how to do is lie, everything they do and say in life is another lie, and they make their living lying. Then they accuse somebody like me of being the liar, and constantly lie through their teeth accusing and lying non-stop.
When I get Tovar Octavio in front of a Judge this guy is going to be more sorry than he is capable of comprehending obviously, the Judge will make him do exactly what the Judge wants him to do, including coming onto this board and saying he's sorry for lying about me, thus humiliating him in public and setting the record straight that I'm not a scam and that my videos are not just real, but the most real system there is to make money from the Oil market.
I will be filing the lawsuit against Tovar Octavio within two weeks, I need more time for my investigation of him before doing so.
Take care,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#158 Consumer Comment
Once again. the whackjob has a conversation with himself...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Notice the David to Randall post happened instantaneously? Ripoffreport has an average of a 3 hour delay between the time you make the post and it actually shows up online. Yet somehow David seems to have posts talking to one another inside of a couple of hours that post at the same time which is IMPOSSIBLE.
David you liar of liars and moron of morons... This PROVES you are Randall 100% because you can't have 2 posts come up within a few minutes of each other talking to one another unless you are the same person you moron! DUH!!!!!!!!!
All of your multiple posts of multiple characters come up at the same time which shows clearly you are the same person plus you can't help but have a little bit of YOU in your posts. Hard to suppress the nutjob rantings isn't it?
Man you are absolutely PATHETIC. When one googles your name and sees you are a typical slimy home based business peddler for years and this is just your latest rendition of that which is doomed to fail like the others since you can't demonstrate live trading success makes you a LOSER...
You and your multiple personalities keep talking to one another you LOSER. Why don't you sell BONER pills or something and you can put fake before and after pictures up there and fake testimonials like you do now?? I can TOTALLY see you getting into something like that as you are slimy enough!
Do that why don't you you whackjob???

#157 General Comment
Tovar's Creepy Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
You're right David, I'm having an AWESOME time with the MACRO code. Thank you so much for having it available to us. If people don't want to take advantage of it, that's fine. But I just don't see why they are so obsessed with naysaying against you.
If Tovar has a better system, why does he spend all this time here, stalking you all over the net and making negative comments which he can't even back up? It's weird. The only explanation is that he does have some sort of perverse agenda.
I only agree with Tovar approximately half the time. That's because he persistently contradicts himself. I agree with him that the system is tradeable, and can be successful. However at the same time, I do NOT agree that it cannot be successful. LOL. I do agree with him that the system involves some ideas that are new. I do NOT agree with him that it is "trading 101." It's not very difficult to understand, that is true. But it is based on some unique insights.
As for your youtube videos, Tovar keeps ignoring the facts that 1: You can't reset strategy runner to zero. If you were cherry picking trades, that would show up in your daily profit/loss counter. 2: You can look at the trades you're making in the videos and follow your own charts, and see where they were in the price action, enabling you to see that a: these are charts from that day and b: there are entries indicated there. and 3: he also ignores my own charts I posted, with the trades timestamped upon them by the strategy runner software.
He's really becoming shrill now. He's not even making claims, just hysterically attacking the messenger. I mean really, name calling? Please.
If this dude had anything positive going on in his life whatsoever, he wouldn't have time to stalk people all over the net and call them childish names in a hysterical tone. He'd be too busy enjoying life and making positive contributions to society, like you have done, David. Again, I thank you so much for making these videos available to us.
Not everyone has to like David's system. Maybe some people prefer other methods. Then they should go do that. Why would anyone obsess over negativity like this? It's just ridiculous.

#156 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Randall
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Hi Randall,
Do you see how when you tried to tell Tovar (Jeff) to get the Macro Code how he then went on to say in reply to you that he is in agreement with you that the videos are crap and worthless? This is a tactic he uses so that when people read his posts they will assume that you also think the videos are worthless as well. This is the exact tactic used at Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army, this guy is a professional liar, he makes his living lying at these websites fooling people into believing that what they offer there has any value, when in reality Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army are scam websites setup conspiracies to fool people and take their money from them.
I'm having Tovar investigated to find out his exact relationship with Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army so that I can show the Judge, and so that I can inform the FBI of him and what he's doing on the Internet.
Obviously Tovar is a psychopath afraid of nothing over the Internet, he needs to be taken down for the betterment of humanity and I'm going to be the one to make this happen. These Forex people are criminals who have defrauded thousands of people out of their money.
The mere fact that Tovar took your post and twisted it into a lie shows his clear Malice, and obviously his stupidity, now I know the mans address and real name and he still is dumb enough to say his lies, obviously we are dealing with a person who has no care for his life and what's going to happen to him, and now I'm going to take this man down and sue him for everything he owns, not to mention getting the local Sheriff and FBI after him.
Tovar is going to be a good example of what happens to these kind of people, and I will show everything here publicly so that all of us can see justice served to the community.
Take care Randall and I'm very happy you are liking the Macro Code, and now you understand why I say this is the ultimate system of trading :-)
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#155 Consumer Comment
More of the same
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
More mindless paranoid rants with no merit...
More fake posts....
More accusations that aren't true...
More threats you will never carry through with because you are a coward...
You have had 2 "live" demonstrations in 6 months to PROVE you are for real but went 1-3-2 proving you suck and you sold NOTHING as a result but you blame ME??? It's not my fault you can only show success on cherry picked after the fact videos. How do you expect people do buy when it is clear you can't show success trading live? Duh! You put yourself out there and you FAILED miserably David. That is not on me but on YOU.
Keep doing what you are doing and keep getting what you get David, you moron.
Keep obsessing over me David... I admit... I LOVE taking people like you down with your monster EGO as you take advantage of people all day long.
Sincerely
Tovar X Octavio
"Crusader to rid the world of scammers like David Kuvelas"

#154 General Comment
Got it for free
AUTHOR: Bela - (Hungary)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
I got the access to download David's Oil trading videos for free after puchasing his videos about Blackjack. He proved me how he able to make a long term success playing this game and revealed this secret. I do not know any other reason why he gave me his oil trading videos for free!!! other than he is a very helpful person who wants to make other lifes easier on the finance field. Thank you again David for helping me and all of those who not belive him should work on their own success and not try to fall someone else like David into discredit.
Bela

#153 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Defamation, Libel, Malice
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2012
Defamation, Libel, Malice......
Slam dunk case here, it couldn't be easier.....
For the casual reader, everything "Jeff" (Tovar Octavio) has said here has been a lie directly against me. He does not know anything about the "code", he has never purchased my videos, and everything he say's is nothing but one lie after another, I personally have never seen anybody lie like this in my life. This person is a criminal, he is directly involved with the Forex market and is attacking me here because I teach people to stay away from the Forex market, and to trade Oil instead. For this cause he is here attacking me viciously non-stop, posting post after post, attacking me personally and calling me names and trying to ridicule me by saying I pay $300 in rent, etc. He even goes so far as to say all the people here posting from around the world are all me doing the posting. His whole agenda here is to discredit me, and obviously he is not even afraid of a Judge.
I'm willing to bet though when I get him in front of a Judge he will finally understand what he's done here, and realize he has no evidence for anything he has said, while I have all the evidence that what he has said is a lie, and that people have believed this lie, and that this lie and lies have cost me a great deal of money in lost sales because of what he's said and because of the length to which he has gone to discredit me, shows clear Malice, obviously he knows these people posting are not me, he is just saying that to discredit me, he is using Malice in his defamation of me, and through this I've lost a great deal of money because of Tovar Octavio.
Now I finally have this mans address and identity, he can no longer hide from me, I'm about to file a lawsuit against him for defamation, libel, and Malice......
To those of you have who posted here to defend me, I thank you very much for that, most people won't do it because they want to keep the "code" for themselves, not letting anyone know of how good it is, so I thank you for helping me here. When I show the Judge the printout of everyone who has bought my videos, your names will be highlighted to show the Judge who you are, and that your name is the same as your name here on this board, and that your IP address location is the same as the address within your sale at Paypal, in this way the Judge will know you are real people and that you are people who have bought my videos, unlike Tovar who's name is not on the list of people who have bought.
I will be posting the picture of the lawsuit here on this board, to show publicly what I'm doing to this man.....
I thank all of you publicly for defending me here, God Bless you for that!
Always stand up for the truth, and what is right, regardless of what everyone else is doing.....
Rest assured Tovar is going down, he has absolutely no defense whatsoever, no proof whatsoever of anything he is saying, the man has no defense in anyway shape or form, while I'm going to show a direct mathematical relationship to the time he started posting here to the time my sales plummeted off a cliff, showing and proving the damage he has done to me here, and he is going to be found as guilty as can be and I will be awarded a large judgment against him.
Remember, Tovar thinks that every trade I show is a cherry picked trade, and he thinks everyone here is me doing the posting, and he think my code doesn't work and there is no code, and he then patronizes me by offering his help to me if only I will stop selling my scam systems. Do you really think the Judge is going to buy that the guy really believes this to be true? I'm willing to bet the Judge isn't going to go for that, and I will show and prove Malice in this manner. Each month that goes by I'm losing about $10,000, he is going to owe that money to me.....
Again I will post a picture of a copy of the lawsuit once it's filed with the clerk.....
Thanks again everyone for defending me against this psychotic psychopath, from here the court and the Judge is going to take over.....
God Bless,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#152 Consumer Comment
I'm waiting whackjob
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
I will be waiting on my porch and maybe the Sheriff and I will have a beer and read this forum together along with others on ForexPeaceArmy and some others on the web and we will have a good laugh over it.
Keep talking windbag. All that hot air is probably a significant cause of global warming! See all the trouble you cause with your mere pitiful existence? You rob people of their money and your hot air may contribute to global warming.... Wow...
Just so you know Mr Windbag, I am kidding about he global warming comment. The rest I stick by 100% and if you have the balls to come by my house I will take my commentary and write it on a big stick and shove it your a-s.
I just WISH you weren't all talk. It would make my day.
Not sure there is anything constructive going on here now or perhaps for weeks but unless you have anything else to say except for calling me names and making empty threats as you always do, I think I will just let you stew in your juices of denial for while and in the meantime I expect to hear nothing from no one because you don't have it in you. I know you too well.
Later Idiot

#151 General Comment
Tovar's Ongoing Self-Contradictions
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
Ok, NOW you're saying that David is NOT teaching Price Action Trading. That he IS teaching something completely new. How do you reconcile this with what you said earlier? Previously you stated that David's system is "trading 101." Is it "trading 101" or is it something completely nw?
Now you're also saying there is nothing to it. Well, which is it? Pick a side and stick to it. If it is "trading 101," then how can there be nothing to it?
Previously, you stated that David's system works, but that David himself was merely unable to make it work. Now you are saying David's system does NOT work. You're even ignoring the chart I posted the other day, containing my entry and the price action to follow. That wasn't an after the fact chart. It was a chart with my trades shown on it, put there by the strategy runner software itself as I was trading.
You're also attacking the name of the system. Who cares if it is called David's Price Action System or "The Code." What difference does it make what a thing is called? Would it work better if it was given a different name?
Again you claim to have ordered Dave's materials. But he says he does not have his name in his records. So you you even have ANY of the videos? If not you should get them. I recommend them, not only if you want to trade successfully, but if you want to criticize the system, you should at least know of what that system consists.
One more thing about David. David has something positive to contribute to society. His site is filled with testimonials from people thanking him for offering his system. David has a meaningful, fulfilled life. He doesn't have to become a hater. He doesn't need to artificially create "meaning" in his life by stalking other people around the net spouting negativity. Do you have something positive to contribute to life?
If you have a better trading system perhaps you could share it with us.

#150 General Comment
Tovar's Ongoing Self-Contradictions
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
Ok, NOW you're saying that David is NOT teaching Price Action Trading. That he IS teaching something completely new. How do you reconcile this with what you said earlier? Previously you stated that David's system is "trading 101." Now you're saying there is nothing to it. Well, which is it? Pick a side and stick to it.
Previously, you stated that David's system works, but that David himself was merely unable to make it work. Now you are saying David's system does NOT work. You're even ignoring the chart I posted the other day, containing my entry and the price action to follow. That wasn't an after the fact chart. It was a chart with my trades shown on it, put there by the strategy runner software itself as I was trading.
You're also attacking the name of the system. Who cares if it is called David's Price Action System or "The Code." What difference does it make what a thing is called? Would it work better if it was given a different name?
Again you claim to have ordered Dave's materials. But he says he does not have his name in his records. So you you even have ANY of the videos? If not you should get them. I recommend them, not only if you want to trade successfully, but if you want to criticize the system, you should at least know of what that system consists.

#149 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You Are Begging Me Tovar
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
You are begging me Tovar to come out to your house and bust every one of your teeth down your throat, but instead of doing that my lawyer and I are contacting the local Sheriff there and let them know what you are doing here on this board against me.
A whole world of hurt is about to come your way Tovar, don't ever say I didn't warn you.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#148 Consumer Comment
Yo Randall (David)
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
I will call you Randall.
If you will get your head out of your a-s for a minute you will see CLEARLY that you and I are on the same page.
The videos I have are total crap and there is NO CODE. That is no arguing that. If David can do simple PA and Pattern trading then GREAT! Have him sell that and call it DAVID THE GREAT'S PRICE ACTION Oil Trading Academy which teaches you reliable price action and patterns to trade oil! I HAVE NO ISSUES with that at all. He can even pontificate all he wants to and he can scream about conspiracies and Masons and Jews and Infidels and Koran or whatever else he wants to. I have no issues with any of that that whatsoever AS LONG AS HE IS SELLING SOMETHING OF VALUE.
Right now, the stuff I ordered, is total crap and ANYONE who has 10 minutes of trading experience will see that. As far as I am concerned, if he still wants to peddle crap but will offer a 100% refund with no questions asked, I can live with that also. But he doesn't do that. He posts after the fact videos showing he regularly goes for $1.00 and $2.00 trades and it is all determined on predictable time etc and that is simply BS. Can he do it once in a while? Sure.. ANYONE can. I just did a $4.00 short from CLs high yesterday to today. Do I have a code? NO! It is based on patterns and price action. Period!
I am encouraging David to produce videos based on solid and proven information so people don't get ripped off or worse, blow up their accounts because he pretends he is some sort of revolutionary. His "Code" both in trading and Black Jack doesn't exist and that is a fact.
We are both on the same page "Randall". If he can produce legit stuff, then I say GO FOR IT because I think he is capable and there is NO reason he shouldn't want to do that whatsoever. he can even get rick doing so, so he can make a decent live for himself.
I think you will agree with that.
If he wants to take me to court, I am totally down for that as well and then I will squash him in front of a judge as I countersue and get my money back and then that will be proven public information for all to see and then his name will really be mud more than it already is. I have NO problem crushing someone's ego like his.
David's future is in his hands. He can make a very nice living producing legitimate materials that actually show real and proven methods and TEACH people what he is looking at. He is certainly skilled enough - I think - so why he doesn't do so is beyond me.
Got it?? Good. Enough said.

#147 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Big Surprise Tovar
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
Actually Tovar I'm more of a man than you are capable of comprehending, and you are in for one whopper of a surprise coming in your life. This is a slam dunk case, you are as guilty as a person could possibly be in this life, and you are going to pay like you cannot yet imagine. No lawyer will even take your case, you will be all alone in the courtroom, which I highly doubt you will show up, escaping back to Columbia. But make no mistake, your current employer is being notified of what you've done here and I will follow you no matter where you go and show everybody what you've done here, the lies you've spoken of about me, the vicious non-stop character assassination you have done against me, in which not one truth has been spoken. You are the most vile human being I have ever come across in my 44 times around the sun, the epitome of the most disgusting lying human being I've ever seen before. And now I'm going to make you pay legally within a courtroom.
You think everybody here posting is me. You think I won't do anything to you. You think my videos are a scam and yet your name isn't on the list of people who have bought my videos, you think my BJ system is also a scam, you think a lot of things Tovar, everything except for the truth. Trust me, my mission now is to get justice from you, you have screwed yourself and your whole family, and you have destroyed my business and my reputation personally, and now I'm going to have a Judge make you pay for what you've done.
So please keep thinking I'm not going to do anything, get ready to be served with a summons to appear in court, it's coming very soon Tovar.
By the way, you are the most whacked out human being I've ever come across, you are the epitome of what the legal system is for....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#146 Consumer Comment
OIL POEM...
AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
is available at this website.
Just type in 529757 at this site and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #23' at Ripoff Reprt #529757.
Thank You

#145 General Comment
TORVO'S SELF CONTRADICTIONS
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
Fact is this is a cool system. I've been having a great time with it. To really get the large view, you need to get the MACRO code. Without that, you're nickel and diming it. That's ok, you still get legit entries and you still make money, but the MACRO code increases your batting average, because it helps you identify trends.
I do NOT think you can truly judge David's system without knowing the MACRO code.
Another thing. So WHAT if David isn't teaching any specific "mainstream" or accepted approach to trading. Do you think price action trading was always an established method? Someone had to be the first one to come up with that. People probably criticized that person for defying established knowledge.
You don't have to adhere to known methods in order to be successful.
HOWEVER, you also state that David's system is "trading 101." So you're actually contradicting yourself. Is it established knowledge or is it NOT established knowledge? Pick a side. Is he "not teaching anything new," or is he teaching something COMPLETELY new?
Oh yes, and you should also give RELEVANCE.
FACT is, you don't KNOW the system. You only know the introductory part of the system. Get the MACRO code. Try it out. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Or, maybe just get a life and stop being a hater!

#144 Consumer Comment
If there is one thing I know, you are too much of a coward to do anything...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 02, 2012
You know how I know NOTHING will happen?? It is because all you are is TALK TALK TALK TALK. You do nothing but lie about everything but being the sociopath you are, in YOUR mind, it is as good as DONE because you say so right?
You have created this pretend world like a 6 year old girl for 20 plus years where you create this pretend "matrix" like you like to call it and you are the one in control of it all and everyone is a bunch of idiots that participate in it. You create BS videos and make up a "code" that doesn't exist and a bogus Blackjack system that is bogus like 99% of them etc. You threaten, threaten, threaten but it is nothing but hot air because you are nothing but a coward who gets off pontificating online behind your computer with your pretty videos and hollering at anyone and everyone that calls you out.
You are nothing but a loser internet spammer and the REALITY hurts doesn't it? How many videos did you sell after that embarrassing "live" demo? None right? Even the most naive could see how bogus that was.
Bite me with your meaningless threats David. They mean nothing and you mean NOTHING.
Stop embarrassing yourself... Loser.
Tovar X Octavio
P.S. I can see you getting going NUTZ right now David and it makes me laugh... I have to be honest.

#143 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Soon Tovar
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
Soon a Judge is going to make you shut your mouth, I promise you that punk, and in person I will show you what a real man is, while I get to see what a first class sissy is. You are going to pay for what you've said here, thank the living God it's not going to be with your life.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
Here comes the lawsuit:
Tovar Octavio
1565 Golf Club Road
Highland Village, TX 76226

#142 Consumer Comment
Soooo.... I guess that means you are going to keep scamming then huh??
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
I stand 100% behind everything I have said about you, David.
I keep giving you a chance to stop the lies and the scamming and you just won't take it. That is sociopathic and utterly narcissistic behavior but we have covered that again and again with all the evidence of your rants and raves as you are poor as dirt yet claim you can do what you can do and cry over losing a few lousy bucks trying to peddle your junk videos.
You are what you are David and that is a pathetic human being. I will be waiting to be served so I can crush you like a bug in court you half-wit.

#141 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Must Be Insane
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
Tovar, you must be insane, obviously you are mentally ill and deranged, but I'll have to let the court make that decision since I'm not qualified to do so. But you have lied about every single thing you've said about me here Tovar, and I can easily prove that while you cannot prove one single thing you've said. Buddy, you are in bigger trouble than you realize, I'm going to be able to seize your assets, take a percentage of your paycheck, you are going to be in debt to me and obviously being from Columbia you do not understand the laws here in the USA.
I'm really sorry about this, but you are the one who has done this to yourself, and now I'm going to use the legal system to seek the justice I deserve from you, you have lied about everything you've said, from living in a one bedroom apartment to paying $300 in rent to renting a room in a house, to losing trades in my Webinars, everything you have said about me has been a lie, in fact you've not spoken one truth, obviously you're 100% insane, and your insanity is now going to land you in court here in Henderson NV where the lawsuit will be filed against you. I'm going to drag you here to court and sue you.
I'm realizing who you are, I'm fairly certain you have serious mental issues, but believe me that's not going to stop me from what is coming next.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#140 Consumer Comment
So you know my name... So what???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
That doesn't change anything. You are still selling garbage David and you know it and I know it and so does everyone whoever bought it and have long since deleted it from their hard drives.
Maybe after you read the post before the one you just did you will change your mind as it is quite fair I think and perhaps it did not appear before you just did this post. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and wait until you respond to be sure.
Are you interested in doing legit training videos based on patterns and price action so at least you are actually teaching something legit? Will you drop this "code" crap once and for all?? I mean, I guess you can call it your "code" if you want to I don't know but if all you are going to teach is common patterns and PA then don't you think you should come up with something else since there really is no "code"?
Let me know. If you take that on and stop peddling crap, I am a totally forgiving guy and this will all be water under the bridge.
What do you say David?
Sincerely,
Tovar J Octavio
P.S. that also means no pedding the BS Blackjack system either. OK?? It is BS and we both know it. Let's transform and do good things

#139 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff Is Tovar Octavio
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
Hello Jeff, guess who? I have found out your identity, your name is Tovar Octavio, I have your address in Highland Village TX, and I have your IP address. I know your affiliations with the Forex market and now today is day 1 of your lesson. You will be receiving a lawsuit from me with a summons to appear in court very soon, my lawyer and I are preparing the suit against you now. You're about to learn a valuable lesson in this life kid, a very valuable lesson, and I'm sorry that I have to mess your life up like this but you are the one who has done this to me and now I'm going to seek justice against you in a court of law. I was getting 30 sales per month, now I get 5 sales per month because of your character assassination against me, I will be suing you for the difference and for the extreme pain and agony you have caused me. I'm very sorry that this has to be done, but remember you are the one who started it, not me. Now I'm going to be the one to finish it. I guess you can go back to Columbia and try to escape, but if you don't you are going to be paying me $100,000 for loss damages and character assassination. Here comes the lawsuit Tovar Octavio......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#138 Consumer Comment
Hey David (Fransa) and David (Randall)
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
Hey Davids. Yes, I was being nice and saying you perhaps DO understand trading 101 pattern analysis. I thought you would give me kudos for being nice about that. I don't have any issue with you about the idea you may have knowledge about this sort of thing.
#1 I never said you don't know how to trade but what I DO know is the videos teach you NOTHING about Trading 101 pattern analysis. Do you understand what I am saying here?? NOTHING in your videos teaches you how to trade like you can read about in any pattern analysis book found in a million places or for free in a bunch of forums online. If one buys your junk, I GUARANTEE you will go broke because there is nothing there. There is no repeatable time of day situation where something happens predictably etc and therefore you are running a scam. There is nothing you have discovered that is original or you have figured out etc. There are no two ways about it. What you attempt to do, and unsuccessful twice now in in webinars, has NOTHING to do with that you sell. You consistently use terms that are relative to pattern and PA trading in your commentary... Period so that makes you a PA Pattern trader and there is NOTHING wrong with that at all. The ISSUE is in your videos you don't teach that and that is why what you sell is a scam David. You don't teach people something that works at all. If you did, I would not have an issue with you.
#2, You didn't demonstrate live DOM trading which, of course one would have expected because you "demonstrate" that on your after the fact videos you sell. Why don't you do this? It was because it allows you to talk and talk and talk and do a lot of conjecture talk and if a call you make doesn't work out, you can simply say you either brought the stop into break even or if it did take your break-even stop out, he can say you didn't bring the stop in yet even though you said twice that he did so. That would be the only reason you would not show your DOM because we could the "see" what you are up to. The fact is, anyone who was listening and knows the first thing about trading knows AT BEST you had 2 BE trades and missed a HUGE runner which you are supposed to know all about.
Either way, I thought I was being very nice to you David. Let's be clear, I am NOT saying a "code" works because there is no code and I have yet to see anything you DO work outside of after the fact videos. There is no room to misinterpret this statement David. What you sell is BS but you like to put yourself on a pedestal and act like you are something special so you act like you discovered something new but it simply isn't true. Why aren't you OK with just selling real product with real Trading 101 concepts and be OK with that? A TON of people sell the same old stuff and if you are a good marketer, which you are David, you can sell a lot of it. So why don't you just do something legitimate and sell something real?
I am not saying you can't trade because I have never seen if you can or not but I am being generous and saying you "MAY" be able to trade but I have my doubts it in the long run otherwise you wouldn't be running this scam if you could... I am open to thinking you may be able to because I can see what you are attempting to do. You just haven't been able to do it
The videos you sell to people don't talk about pattern/price action trading at all. Here is the thing David... If you sold videos that actually did talk about trading 101 pattern and PA trading, I would be OK with that. But you DON'T do that. You sell garbage that doesn't work based on predictable time situations that occur regularly but that simply doesn't work in ANY level of consistency. There is NO CODE... Just stop with the madness OK?
So David, you can see I am trying to be civil with you. If you want to run a legitimate company and website and actually teach people pattern analysis and PA trading, I say GO FOR IT... But don't sell garbage that doesn't work and rip people off. That is what I am trying to say... You can do what you do and draw on charts and show people ABC trades and wave analysis and double tops and bottoms and wedges and support and resistance. Granted, it isn't as sexy as saying you have a "code" but at least you won't be lying to people and selling garbage right? If you did that, I am SURE with your spamming techniques etc and ability to put videos together etc you will do very, very well for yourself. I have NO ISSUE with that David and neither will anyone else. Sound fundamental trading principals demonstrated in even after the fact videos can be OK simply because they are proven principals that have stood the test of time. There is no problem there particularly since that is all you are really doing man.
So that is just my advice to you. If you can't demonstrate live trading... I am even OK with that. Just don't act like you can when you can't. You can sell A LOT OF stuff if you do what I just said and you can have a good reputation and make a good living selling stuff like so many people do. I have no issue with that at all... OK?? Alright... thanks David. So don't twist my words around. I trying to give you good advice based on sound business and moral principles and I hope you will take me up on that. Seriously. Stop the madness man

#137 Consumer Comment
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AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
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#136 General Comment
@Randall
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
Randall, I think we must just accept it , some are going to get it and some not, pity though.
Happy Trading.
Fransa

#135 General Comment
Jeff Admits: The System Works.
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Jeff, honestly, with this macro code there are some days I just feel like I'm stealing. I lost a couple trades earlier this morning, then I entered another one and got it all back and then some. I had to exit the trade early, because my girlfriend called me, but the trade would have gone for over 200 pips. It was great. Then at the bottom, it turned and went all the way back up.
Another great day of trading with some great entries. This is the best video game ever, and the kicker is, if you get the high score, you get to go on vacation! LOL.
Of course David doesn't give the secret of the code away for free. What's the point in that? The man developed a great system that is as easy as pie. He deserves to be compensated for it. It's certainly worth the money. It's transformed my trading.
I may have saved some of my charts from today. I'll post them if I have them. Ok, here I saved my chart. I had two losses earlier in the day, but I gained all that back here, plus a little extra. I jumped out of this trade early, because my girlfriend called, and I went to pick her up for lunch. However if I was trading a live account I would have taken it all the way down to target. There were actually two trades entered here. That was a software glitch. My computer is a little messed up.
Anyway, price action eventually went right down EXACTLY to what my hundred pip target was. It later went down even further, and without giving away any proprietary secrets of David's system, there were some very juicy entries later in the afternoon. I wasn't present to trade them, but they would have been like stealing money.
I think the one trade you refer to was a situation in the macro code where the entry came earlier than expected. It still came, and was very profitable. You can see the price action on this chart. I will try to upload it here. Ok, it won't let me upload it here, so go to this link http://kiwi6.com/file/7rgrb3vdb8 and you can see my chart. Entry is in the green circle, exit is in the red circle.
Jeff I'm glad that you finally admit that David's system works. However I do think it's a bit much for you to not admit that David personally can't trade it. How do you think he figured it out without trading it? Please refrain from attacking the messenger. He's doing us all a great favor by offering this system for public consumption.

#134 Consumer Comment
Just got off of David's LIVE Webinar
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I will do a very honest assessment of what I just heard and observed... I say HEARD because there was chart up there but David never places a trade to observe on the chart for anyone to see. There is no reason why he could not have done so and I was certainly expecting him to because he does that with his after the fact videos, but no DOM because he will not demonstrate live trading... BUT, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and listened very carefully...
First of all, I want to say I think David POTENTIALLY can trade. I am not sure. What I have observed him do in two of these webinars now is simple price action trading looking for higher highs, lower lows, double double tops and bottoms, ABC hooks and just general VERY popular price patterns you can read about in a million places for free. He combines that with letting losers be small and winners be larger etc. It is TRULY Trading 101 stuff and that is the bottom line. That is ALL it is so make no mistake about that.
I observed he started to get on his pedestal and self professing his is an expert in quantum this and that and a scientist and philosopher etc etc really talking himself up... He was really going there hard for about 3 minutes but i think he caught himself going off the deep end and finally reeled it in. It was hilarious... He sounded like typical David and I was chuckling pretty hard at that.
So, like I said, he had a chart but no DOM or Chart trader to show him trading which is really important... Why?
He first gets on and said "Did you see that LONG with the breakout that just happened." All he was identifying was what just happened with a breakout in the price action in hindsight but it was an easy trade to identify because it had tested the area 3 times and was due but it was a hindsight call by David. I let it go but it is so typical of people on these things looking at hindsight stuff.
Then he finally called a short at some point after saying things like "if he breaks that then it will go up or if it doesn't it may come down but and I will look to the code for an entry"... he was basically saying stuff like that over and over and over again of just if-then-else-maybe type stuff.
He finally called a short like i said (remember you can't see it because no DOM) and it was a good call where I would have taken the exact same trade but I would have been out in 10 ticks where he was going for more and I know the extra ticks are hard to count on in that particular trade. He was going for 20 because he says that is what he does always. After the price bounced up and down a bit, he got nervous and announced a couple of times he had brought his stop to Break Even. Well, when he had said that, the price action came up to take his stop twice. Each time he THEN said he didn't bring the stop down yet as he was still waiting to do so. Once the PA did what he wanted it to do for the 3rd time, and was well on its way, he claimed he brought his stop in that time. Again, there was no way of knowing because the chart didn't have a DOM like he has in his AFTER THE FACT videos... So one would easily say he got stopped out on that one because he had clearly brought it down earlier because he announced he was not liking it and wanted to protect himself which any normal person would have done but he wanted to to say either he broke even, or he got his profit and by not admitting it took his stop, he would claim he got his profit.
Then he was looking for price to come down to a certain point and gain and entry for a long but it never reached that point and then it took off like a rocket. Of course he would say, "see I told you it would be going long and look at it go" But he never got in. If it would have just gone down and he woud have been able to say "see, that is why I didn't get in" etc... Anyway.... Just patting himself on the back with the 50/50 chance of the uptrend continuing but he didn't get in on it and it was a HUGE move that he missed.
He waited until it topped out and was waiting on price action patterns to show him a short. You could never tell if he was in a trade or not because he wouldn't commit to it but then he FINALLY said he was in and he just so happened to pick the perfect entry short that the price action had barely reached for him to get in but I understood why he said that, it was because he needed to get a good trade so he acted like he got in perfectly because it was 8 cents in his direction already by the time he said he was in a short... Well, it didn't matter because that trade got stopped out also..
So what I observed is A LOT of conjecture and waffling back and forth and by the way never a single word about using "time" in his trading. NOT one time is it mentioned and yet in his video trading he sells that is his main talking point... Isn't that amazing?? Where is the code??? There is no code...
At the end of the day, I think David and I think very similiarly about where to enter trades because I look for the same entries he is looking for based on my observations and he is a scalper basically like me also. But that is all he is... He is a price action pattern scalper that has basic trading 101 rules for trading... I am not sure he can trade or does trade at all because it is one thing to do appear to look for PA that is typical of what I would look for, it is quite another to do it and since he lives like a pauper, it is apparent he doesn't trade at all as it takes discipline regardless of what you know.
So again... I am NOT saying David is not capable of trading. What I AM saying is that there is NO CODE whatsoever at all in a million years and he does nothing with time of day in his trading and his videos teach NOTHING about him being a price action pattern trader.. that is what I am saying... His after the fact videos are nothing like what he talks about in his seminar stuff.
One person in the event said "it sounds like there is a lot of room for interpretation here and descretionary / qualitative decision making vs a strong idea of whether to go short or long at any given time.." Do you teach about that?" David never answered the question.
Another person asked "It looks like you are a pattern/price action trader right". He answered that and said "Well, not really... Let's just say there is a micro code and a macro code that I have figured out and that is what you see here"
Another person said "That is one of the strangest webinars I have ever attended. I can't tell whether he can trade or not". That comment was made after David had left after claiming he had the one successful trade which, based on what I very carefully heard, he was stopped out on so he broke even twice in the webinar...
One would have expected he woudl have his DOM on there JUST like his videos right??? Wrong...
You really had to listen to a lot of general if-then-else stuff going on. The first trade he clearly called but he got stopped out and the second one he did NOT clearly call at all but got stopped out anyway...
That is my 100% honest assessment of what I saw today and I don't think anyone in the room who observed it would say I have not assessed it exactly right. If you would have tried to follow his calls on his two trades, you would have been stopped out on the first one and the second I am not sure you would have got in because he called it after the fact but he got stopped out anyway so that is my observation.
Sorry David... believe it or not, I wanted to see something from you but as soon as i didn't see a DOM again, I figured this is what would happen. It was the same as the last time when he was like 1 for 4.

#133 General Comment
@ Jeff
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2012
Jeff..quite an observation there..I don't think I am just like David, cause I am female.:)..but yeah,we do have alot in common , intelligent and no patience for people who refuses to use their God given brain to think out side of the box.
And you still haven't made an effort to find me on FB. I am as real as you can get. The one with the green eyes.:) Come get me Masons.
Fransa

#132 General Comment
@Jeff
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2012
You are just ranting and raving here..why don't you go over to David's website and see what is waiting for you.
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/
Yes I did say I was going to leave here but since I went into David's website and saw the video's of his trading last week, I decided to stay cause I want to see the hogwash you come up with.
And now I would like to see what you have to say when you join his live trading.
Fransa

#131 General Comment
TIME
AUTHOR: Dreame - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2012
David,
Thank you for your taking the time to respond to my post, no less bring up, almost randomly, an aspect of the universe I too have pondered at one time.
As a student of the Qur'an, I am outlawed from playing games of chance, which means that if I cannot treat blackjack as an investment with statistical advantages, then I would have to remiss. I will say that I have taken what I have learned to this point about the game and furthered calculations on my own to validate the system I use now. It has taken me countless man hours and iterations to develop what I have today, and I continue to strive for knowledge. I would most certainly be interested in what you have to say on the subject, and although $400 is not an unreasonable amount to spend on a potentially powerful system, I need to continue to explore the math and identify the hole for myself before I can invest in information that claims it all to be a lie. I saw holes in the way those around me carried themselves, and it prompted me to learn the Arabic language and explore the Qur'an over 10 years ago. I mention that because, as a student of the Holy book, I can relate when you speak of "living in a matrix", as reading the Qur'an liberates me from the slavery of regressing to our inherent weaknesses to sin.
If I remember correctly, it has been postulated that 1 light year is equivalent to 1000 earth years. That's almost nonsensical since a light-year, by definition, is a measure of distance and not time, and I honestly cannot recall how or when I arrived at such a conversion of light years to earth time, but I continue to believe it to be true. Therefore, if we were able to travel out into deep space at light speed for a period of one year, we would, theoretically return to the earth 1000 years into the future, yet only age 1 year ourselves. Whatever the case, time like all else in this life, is only relative to the points of reference we use to measure it.
Pulling from various parts of the Qur'an, God, known anciently as Allah, is "the light of the heavens and the earth" and in another part of the book, expresses that "a day to Allah is as 1000 years of your (human) reckoning". The majority of us Westerners are aghast at the idea that God could be non-human, and in some circles it would be considered blasphemous, but as you are aware, most people are not interested in the truth. Many scientific aspects of our existence were postulated by the early Arabs who studied the Qur'an, then the Europeans like Einstein and Newton swoop on in and expand on the knowledge of these Muslim civilizations, then almost passively place the veil over the Western world we know and love by regarding those revolutionary times of exploration and discovery as "the dark ages". Not that it was Einstein's or Newton's fault, but perhaps the Masons you speak of that write the history for the world to falsely believe.
In any event, congratulations, again, on your continued success. I hope to be exposed to your ideas one day, and I truly hope it is not some big disappointment Martingale type progression system. Although my counting is labor intensive and shows small, but steady growth over time, short of mentally tracking each and every card that is dealt and constantly recalculating the probability of a given combination of advantage cards and betting appropriately, I am curious to know of any other pattern of financial potential. I do know one thing, though, there MUST be one. Perhaps you have discovered it, cause no matter how many players against the dealer, it is absolutely amazing how often the dealer wins. Mimicking the dealer by mechanically drawing to 17 no matter what or not taking a hit at all doesn't work, as I have already tried, and I know this game comes down to HOW you bet and that is the secret. I'll have to at least listen to your videos one day, and I am absolutely interested in the math behind it.
-- Dreame

#130 General Comment
CHALLENGE TO JEFF
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2012
Jeff, you want to see something amazing? Get the macro code. Check out the charts for the past new weeks once you know the macro code. You will be ASTONISHED.
I'll send you the charts myself if you aren't already running Strategy Runner. The secret code is pretty good, and it's a solid system. I've been running it for a month now. But the macro code will simply blow you away.

#129 Consumer Comment
I 100% stand by post #123
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
All of this is a scam. Now he has is cast of personalities talking to one another talking illuminati and Masons and conspiracy all sounding like who?? Sounding EXACTLY like David that's who.
Notice they all post right in a row not even waiting for Ripoffreport to put the post on the board which takes at least several hours to post as everyone knows. Nope... The cast of characters are talking to one another all posting in a conversation all being done within a few total hours which is not possible because the posts don't appear that fast on Ripoffreport... There can only be one way this can happen... JUST ONE... They are all the same person... What?? NO WAY?? David talking to himself with fake postings? You have to be kidding me! NOT POSSIBLE!!! LOL And he is 1000 times smarter than everyone sitting petting his cat in his rented room...
He forgets that one of his personalities "Fransa" said she would leave several days ago but JUST LIKE David, the only guy making the posts, she can't leave and why? Because she is David and he can't do it because he is is a narcissist! Fransa is JUST LIKE DAVID... I wonder why??
Post #123 all 100% facts and a culmination of all this entire blog etc. David will never trade live and show you and 100 penny trades... EVER... because he can't.

#128 General Comment
@ Randall
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
Randall..Macro is the ultimate , once you learn and understand the Macro code ... this will be all you trade.
I only trade the Macro.. and then there is a "certain time" that I can see a CODE, for a complete run up for the whole day. And of course the gap trade. These are the only ones I trade.
All of these trades indicated by the "secret code"
Keep at it, you will not be sorry.
Regards
Fransa

#127 General Comment
Macro Code, BJ System
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
I don't know anything about David's Black Jack system. It sounds interesting, because I like math puzzles, but I haven't looked at it, so I can't comment on it.
Keep in mind though, just because something's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm not saying David's on par with DesCartes, who "discovered" analytic geometry or Leibniz, who invented the calculus. I'm just saying.
As for his claims of high percentages of success, what you say is accurate in a random market. However what David claims (and what imo appears to be the case) is that price action in the oil futures market is in fact NOT random, but is artificially contrived and manipulated. Now whether this is due to "The Illuminati" or merely algos of Goldman Sachs (is there any difference?) is neither here nor there. The fact is these are observable, repeatable and predictable phenomena.
Now I just want to say something about the Macro code. Wow! LOL. I'm blown away by it.
YO, JEFF! CHECK OUT THE MACRO CODE. For real. LOL. This is AWESOME.
Seriously, I'm checking out these macro code videos, then going over my old charts that I've been saving for the past month while I was running the more introductory "secret code" videos. WOW man! I'm leaving a ton of money on the table!

#126 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Dreame
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
To Dreame,
Imagine how I feel for a moment. Not only did I discover the Blackjack Secret Code on my very first trip to Vegas, but additionally when I tell people of it they do not believe, and in order to make them believe at all, I have to prove it to them at the casinos. Additionally, whenever I do play, all the dealers and all the players all think I'm the biggest blackjack idiot on the face of the planet, from their perspective I'm playing the exact opposite of how you're suppose to play, making dumb moves and playing like an idiot beyond description. So much so that dealers will say rude comments to me, and the players all get very angry at me on the tables, to the point where I have to even get into fights at the table, and tell them all to shut their mouths or I will shut it for them. Happens all the time.
Then I'm the one who walks away a winner, while they stay there and continue to lose their money, and this of course makes them even more angry.
So what am I to conclude from this? People are just morons? People are just retards? People are just mind boggling stupid and stuck within the Matrix?
You see, everybody thinks the same exact way, I know because I've been playing blackjack since 1988, and all this time everybody plays the exact same way, and they all lose the exact same way, and for some strange reason they don't seem
to understand, they don't see basic patterns and understand why it is they are losing.
All books on the subject teach the same basic strategies, and they all are losing strategies.
So am I suppose to be sorry for being the one who broke the code?
It's not my fault that I broke the Blackjack Code, it's not my fault I can make $50,000 per month playing Blackjack, it's not my fault nobody believes me, it's not my fault I have a thousand times the intellect of the MIT blackjack card counters, and could make more money playing blackjack then they ever dreamed of before. Nor is it my fault nobody believes me.
But this has been true all my life with everything I've ever done before. Are you going to believe I did a 3d model of the Universe in 1995 on a 7100/66 Power Mac using Strata Studio Pro to demonstrate graphically how "Time Slows Down The Further You Get From The Surface Of The Earth"?
Let me ask you a question, how many people do you know on this planet who understands how and why "Time Slows Down The Further You Get From The Surface Of The Earth"?
I've never once met anybody in my life, nor have I ever read any books about the subject except for what the Mason's have wrote to steer people away from the real truth. Nor have I ever heard of any professors, or anybody else on this planet who knows, except for me. And not only do I know and understand and can explain it very easily, but I also did a full 3-d model and animation of the entire Universe to show exactly how this occurs. Few people on this planet can even understand, let alone believe.
So when you're done playing games with the Blackjack method you're using, and want to truly make money playing the game of Blackjack, I suggest you forget everything you think you know and buy my course for $400 and then start making the big bucks playing the game.
Or be skeptical like the world is and continue to live within the Matrix, like everybody chooses to do. I for one am tired of trying to convince people, I have found it's a waste of time, people are never going to wake up, they will continue to live within the Matrix and believe all the lies told to them, and hear every truth and laugh at it, this is simply the way people are and they won't wake up.
To me charging $400 for my blackjack system is like giving it away.
There is no card counter anywhere on planet earth that could compete with me, in fact I consider card counting to be 100% worthless, and I laugh at card counters for their stupidity.
It sucks living in a world filled with people stuck in the Matrix, and no matter how hard I try to pull them out of the Matrix they simply won't come out, they love the Matrix, they love believing what everybody else believes, following along like sheep, believing all the lies and nonsense because they see it on TV, or read it in some magazine, or hear it from everybody else. Whenever somebody like me comes around everybody laughs at them, it never fails too.
So again, what am I suppose to think? Are people just idiots? Are they retards? What do you suppose is wrong with them? Do they lack intelligence? Or are they just sheep who follow along, doing and believing everything everybody else believes?
And the funny part is you cannot imagine how deep this goes, but I can tell you this, everything you think you know on this planet is a lie given to you by people with a million times your level of intellect, specifically 33rd degree Masons.
It's no wonder these people hate my guts, because I go around teaching everybody their treachery, I have broken their Masonic Code, google "Masonic Code Broken", I have broken their Futures Market Code, and I have broken the Blackjack Code, and they of course hate my guts for it, because the way they survive is through keeping the population dumbed down and ignorant about all things, only in this way do they survive. And people of course are totally oblivious to this, they have no idea the level and depth to which they are being fooled about every subject there is under the sun of importance, and
there is nobody to tell them or wake them up.
All people who have tried are now dead.....
Breaking the Blackjack Code is like romper room class compared with knowing how "Time Slows Down The Further You Get From The Surface Of The Earth". It took me at least 2 weeks of heavy study and critical thinking for me to finally understand what Einstein was implying through the use of measuring rods and clocks and the geometry of the Space Time Continuum to give rise to this phenomenon.
And again, you cannot imagine how much I've discovered since I was 25 years old, I'm now 44 years old and know a million times this knowledge, I know things that no human being knows on this planet, and my knowledge is on par with 33rd degree Masons, who are by far the smartest people in this world by a million times, you simply don't know any better and don't understand what these people have done. But to put it bluntly, everything you think you know was given to you by them from the time you were born, truly you live within their Matrix if you live within the USA or western world.
But there are people who do believe me, and they buy my courses, and they are happy with them and do well with them, not everybody of course, but by far the vast majority of them. And it gives me pleasure to be able to help people like
this. But unfortunately the enemy attacks me so much so often that it's difficult to deal with the pain associated with trying to teach people, the enemy won't stop attacking me, these Mason's hate my guts, and they won't stop attacking me.
But I am afraid on no man on this planet, and I will continue to speak the truth no matter what anybody says or does, and nobody can or will stop me unless God wants it so, until then I will continue to teach and speak the truth about all matters and all subjects.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#125 General Comment
BLACKJACK
AUTHOR: Dreame - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 26, 2012
P(x) = x / (x + y + z)
P(y) = y / (x + y + z)
P(z) = z / (x + y + z)
The above equations are the only infallible truths to blackjack.
Wow! I stumbled onto this site after looking around for some more info on the Blackjack Code and what amazes me most is that this thread has been going for what appears to be over 2 years!!!
Long story short, I want to congratulate the owner of the Code on his success, whether it works or not. He is successful because he can sell a system for hundreds of dollars, where most literature on the subject of blackjack can be purchased as an e-book for under $10. There is definitely something about putting a large price tag on something, that inherently gives people the appearance that it is of greater quality than its competitors. Knocking David for what he has done, or is doing would be equivalent to calling Starbucks a scam. Anyone that can paint an otherwise 50 cent cup of coffee as something worth $4.50 and continue to push it deserves a Nobel prize for Brilliance in Marketing.
Anyways, I am an avid "advantage" blackjack player. I log anywhere from 20 to 30 hours per month at my local casinos, and countless more practicing at home with my six decks. I quickly gave up on progressive betting systems that involve "capitalizing" on "hot streaks" very early in my blackjack career. Betting systems that are not tied into some tracking of the deck composition simply cannot gain a statistical or monetary advantage over time. The advantage blackjack has over any other game offered in a casino is the fact that it is a game of sequential dependent events. I don't know of any other game that continues to go through so many variations, such as number of decks, rules, and shuffling tactics to try and keep players from tracking the cards. That alone is proof to the fact that card counting is a viable method to beating the house.
Yet and still, many card counters fail. It's not the math that fails them, but rather, the lack of bankroll, or lack of willingness to continue.
I have calculated the houses advantage at the tables I frequent to be 0.62%. In other words, I am losing 62 cents per every 100 dollars I bet, before I even sit down to place a bet. It has been proven mathematically, in Lance Humble's literature on the High Opt I method of card counting, that in order to consistently beat the dealer requires a consistent standing value of 19 or higher. This is why many tables (the tables I play included) prompt dealers to take a hit on soft 17, consequently adding a 0.20% advantage to the house in addition to the baseline 0.02% and 0.53% for incorporating 6 decks. Think about it....wouldn't you love to play at a table where the dealer consistently draws to 17? I would be all over it!
Card counting considers a deck or multiple deck of cards to be composed of three types of cards (good, bad and nuetral). The equations I listed at the start of this post represent just that, where x = high value cards (10), low value cards (2-6 or 7) and neutral cards (7-9, or 8-9). As you remove a card, the subsequent probability of the next card is defined by the afore mentioned equations, period. As a simple example, consider a gumball machine with 2 yellow, 2 black and 2 white gumballs. You must place a bet on which color you will receive next.
Before anything, mathematically, there is a 33.3% chance that you will receive any one color over the other. One who is knowledgeable of this would be foolish to place any more than the smallest bet allowed, or not bet at all. Why would you want to intentionally bet into a -33.3% expectation? Now remove a black ball, and the whole story changes. The probability of the next event is now as follows:
Black = 1/5 = 20%
White = 2/5 = 40%
Yellow = 2/5 = 40%
Two more gumballs are extracted and they happen to be a white ball, followed by a black ball. There are now 3 gumballs remaining and the following subsequent probabilities:
Black = 0/3 = 0% (all gone)
White = 1/3 = 33.3%
Yellow = 2/3 = 66.7%
The advantage player now "Wong's" in and places his maximum wager on yellow. He or she is not by any means guaranteed a win, but if he/she consistently bets only on 66.7% opportunities, guess what? He/she will be winning 66.7% of the time!
The idea that cards tend to "clump" or that winning always comes in "hot streaks" that are worth overbetting on are not only NOT mathematically sound, but a hopeless gamble. I do agree with David, however that to be most effective, sessions are best to be kept to short blocks of time. Let's face it, the casino wins because they NEVER stop taking bets. 24/7/365, the casino will happily take your bet, because even if we all knew how to track cards effectively, the standard deviations (SD) would eventually wipe us out if we, as players, did not limit our play time.
As it turns out, SD = 1.1 * SQRT(hands played) * AVG BET. Considering the average table with 3 to 5 players and a good dealer, one can expect roughly 100 hands per hour. If that player's average bet is, say $20 per hand, then he/she can expect swings of 1.1 * SQRT(100) * 20 = $220 per hour either up or down. A rock solid system of tracking cards could yield between a 20 to 30% of max bet earning per hour.
As for me, I did not start being truly successful at blackjack until I overcame the need to gamble, or believe in lucky streaks, or the sorrow of giving back what I once won, etc, etc....the mind games are endless. I overcame those mind perils through quantification of expectation. As it turns out, I began 2012 playing an unbalanced counting system where I reserve a bankroll of $5000. I play a 1-10 spread on a $5 table, so my max bet given the proper count is $50. Playing days here and there I take 12 max bets worth of capitol with me to the casino ($600) and although I have yet to tap out the entire amount on a given day, I am not ashamed to go home in the red after x amount of hours and no "regression to the mean". Given I expect to realistically earn 20 to 30% of my max bet, that's a whopping $15 per hour over time.
As it turns out, I earned $110 in January, over just under 16 hours of casino time, which came out to roughly $7 per hour. It's been a hectic month for me, and I have barely put in 4 hours this month, and am down just over $600. This is the reality of "advantage investing" as I call it. I have received plenty a quarterly report on my 401Ks and have though to myself I'd be better off sticking the money in a sock under my pillow, but the reality is, investments grow over time, never in the short term.
My point after all this rambling is this. Although I respect the fact that David can sell his system for what he does, and can potentially take advantage of certain trends that he has identified to occur 60 to 70% of the time, I do truly believe having a PhD mathematician for a father and an engineer myself, that that 60 to 70% claim can only be documented in a brief period, and not over the long haul. I am also not impressed by someone who can claim to visit a casino at the age of 21 and have it all figured out. To this day, I continue to grow and learn the game, and would never suggest I have it all "figured out". As the legendary coach of UCLA John Wooden once said, "when I am done learning, then I am done".

#124 Consumer Comment
Code trading for real
AUTHOR: JDNeeman - (El Salvador)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2012
Hello,
First of all my name is J Dennis Neeman Sarano, and i live in El Salvador at the time, im Israeli Army reservist and Agro-industrial Engineer, i have been trading Forex for about 6 years, and NO im not David, you can write me or call me at jdneeman@gmail.com or at my mobile 50379283218 to confirm my identity.
the last year i came across David website oiltradingacademy, i bought Davids Secret code videos in the US and brought them with me but didnt had the time to watch them untill a month ago, i came to realize that the code was so obvious and real, and i started using it with my regular trading on forex specifically the EURUSD pair, if you have watched the videos you can properly identify the code and is amazing how other traders perform their trades using the code even if they dont know what the code is, you can search you tube real trades videos and look how the code just jump up most of the time, at the time i have started to trade Oil in my trading platform and have had a success rate of 70% and still working to get a higher success rate ( remember i only have 1 month trading with the code), then i saw the Macro code videos and i was set free!! i took only one trade a day using the macro code on EURUSD and Oil, my conclusion to people that come across this site and want to buy the secret code or macro code is: IS REAL, IT WORKS, ITS PROFITABLE, AND IS NOT SCAM, please if you buy this and request some help i can help you with my little experience and of course David is there to help us all!,
Wishing the best.
J Dennis Neeman.

#123 General Comment
Crazy Jeff's Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2012
1: A bunch of name calling. Even if David was a sociopath or narcissist, would that mean that his system doesn't work? If a narcissist said the sky was blue, would that mean the sky was some other color?
2: I don't know personal info about David, unlike you. Because I'm not stalking him. I'm not stalking him, because I'm not crazy. Like I said, I read somewhere he lives in a condo. David is smart, so it makes sense he would live in a condo. They are a deal nowadays. I also know the website made $70,000 last year, because that's what it said on Ebay.
3: First of all, even if David was "unable" to trade live, that would NOT mean that he is a fake. It would simply mean that he is not able to trade live. However, he does trade live repeatedly. He even has had a trading room as well as a signal service. Check out his videos.
4: Just because YOU cannot successfully trade this system, does not mean it does not work. Read David's testimonial page. He's got alot of testimonials. You should actually get his videos, then you would see how awesome they are.
5: Even it was factually the case that David has tried to do live rooms and failed it would NOT mean that it is impossible for David to trade live. It would just mean that he has tried to do live rooms and failed. However, that is not factually the case.
6: I haven't seen the black jack system. Maybe it does involve counting cards. I don't know. However, you again engage in personal attacks against David. This shows that you are obsessed with him on a personal level. This is not about his system at all. You have some perverse obsession with David.
7: It is NOT a fact that David rents a room. And even if it was, it would not necessarily follow that he is a poor and desperate lonely man. And none of this has any relevance to his system. Remember the system? Think back. It's the thing you're NOT obsessed with.
8: So you bought some videos from David? That doesn't make you stupid. The fact that you are not able to use them to become a successful trader makes you stupid.
9: David has never spammed me once. He has always maintained civil discourse and has never engaged in inappropriate conduct of any kind to my knowledge. Perhaps you could model yourself after David's behavior.
10: Again, another personal attack. If a paranoid person says the sky is blue, does that mean it must be some other color? Well the same goes true for trading systems. If a paranoid person says the OTA system works, does that mean it must not? You are also presupposing that David is incorrect about conspiracy theories. However this is not a forum for that topic. I has nothing to do with the matter at hand, which is DAVID'S SYSTEM.
11: You're cracking up, Jeff. You're becoming more and more shrill. Perhaps you should take an extra dose of your medications.
As I've stated before, you can turn the clock back on your computer, but you can't reset the demo account on strategy runner. Nor can you reset the timestamps on the bottom of the charts. I also challenged you to compare the charts David is running in his daily videos to YOUR OWN CHARTS from that day. I have done this and I have found them to be exact.
12: David does not have to prove that you are a hysterical mental case. You're doing a great job of that yourself. But thank you.
13: Don't hold back Jeff. Tell us how you feel. LOL

#122 Consumer Comment
I offered...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 24, 2012
I guess the dillusional, multipersonality, sociopath, narcissist can't handle it so he rips off his 2 fake posts along with his own signature rigtht in a row of course.
Interesting how your "supporters" know so much personal information about you David. Are they living in the other room renting in the same house as you? After all, we all know you have NO friends as you admitted to everyone here. I bet you are curious as to how how know so much about you David. I can't tell you everything because then you would figure it out for sure.
Your an internet scammer proven over and over again by your inability to trade LIVE and demonstrate anything remotely resembling your after the fact videos. That is NUMBER 1. It is a fact.
Number 2, you can't produce one single person that successfully uses your system, which isn't really a system because there is nothing to understand. It doesn't work. That is a fact.
Number 3, you have previously tried to do live rooms and failed miserably because you can't trade live. That is fact.
Number 4, Black Jack is PROVEN impossible to win over time unless you count cards. This is common knowledge from the most brilliant of minds and it is a simple mathematical FACT. Someone renting a room in a depressed real estate market sure as hell doesn't know anything different. I would bet everything I had - which is A LOT more than David - on it but he would never legitimately take me up on it because he always THREATENS to PROVE something but then never does. Just more after the fact videos to screw the naive. So easy to demonstrate live, but he will not do it. That is a fact. He would be a millionaire MANY times over if he proved ANYTHING but he can't and won't... FACT
Number 5, the fact you do rent a room speaks VOLUMES. Just that one fact alone proves who you are and that is a poor desperate lonely man..
Number 6, the fact you are only selling some PROVEN POWERFUL system, which I was stupid enough to buy, for $400 is yet another incredibly powerful argument.
Number 7, The fact you SPAM all over the internet and on top of it into people's email trying to get people to buy it is over the top. You are desperately trying to sell something and you act like you are trying to BLESS THEM. What crock of sh-t. Typical internet spamming tactics from typical internet spammer. More facts... Someone with your ability doesn't need to be a bottom feeder like that right David? FACT!
Number 8, You are a paranoid delusional nutjob with your rantings. Any psychiatrist would have a field day with you. Look at your paranoid rantings you post and the awful things you say to people who treat you with respect. It isn't conjecture you are a paranoid whacko, it is a fact.
Number 9, I actually gave you the opportunity for terms for a truce, but you didn't take it because the terms are to prove yourself once in for all and GOD knows, we can't have that! We have to stick with the after the fact videos right? Plus it would mean you don't get to have this attention everyday which would drive you CRAZY!!! FACT
Number 10. Not one accusation you make against me can be proven whatsoever and it doesn't matter how many fake postings you put on here. It is all just hot air. At the end of the day, you can't prove you can trade live successfully. You can only scam people with after the fact videos. Those are FACTS... ALL FACTS
Those are a lot of facts David and they are INDEED FACTS. You can't say the same. You can only shout from the mountaintops your meaningless cowardly threats and make false claims about your crap you sell and post after the fact videos. You are a pathetic pathological liar. That is a fact as you have proven it over and over on this board and all over the internet forever for people to see
I stand by everything said on this post and my facts are not arguable and David has not been able to make one single fact about me known this board. Just HOT AIR. That is what David is.. A sack of HOT AIR... A lonely loser at life

#121 General Comment
Jeff's Latest Obsessive Rage
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 24, 2012
Ok, Let's see Jeff's latest "evidence" against the OTA system:
1: David "fake posts." Anyone who disagrees with Jeff must be David pretending to be someone else. (Therefore David's system doesn't work?)
2: David "resets the simulator" every time he trades. (Can you do that? You can't just sign up for a new demo account with strategy runner, to my knowledge. It's not like metatrader. Each new demo costs $30 a month, unless a broker gives you one for free.)
3: David "rents a room for $300 dollars." (I read on one site he lives in a condo. The website alone made $70,000 last year. Did he lose that all trading?)
4: David "post dates" his videos. (A broker is not going to reset your demo every time you enter a trade. And how can you "post date" a video? Sure, you can adjust the clock on your computer. How can you reset the time stamps on strategy runner? That's ridiculous. Not only that, but he posts the videos the same day. Match the price action with that of your own charts. It ain't rocket science.)
5: David should call it "Dave's momentum scalper." (If it was named something else, then it would work?)
6: Wow, Jeff finally is requesting a TRUCE! (Is he back on his medication?)

#120 General Comment
Opportunist
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 24, 2012
This is you Jeff:)
A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.
"Dear Optimist, Pessimist and Realist: While you guys were arguing about the glass of water, I drank it - Opportunist.
I will keep a space for you guys on my farm:)))
Kind Regards
Fransa

#119 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Psychotic Loser
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 24, 2012
At least everyone who reads this board now Jeff realizes you are a psychotic loser beyond all words or description, you have completely 100% made yourself into the biggest loser on the face of this planet, it's super easy now for anyone with an IQ over 20 to see you are nothing but a liar and psychotic at the same time. It's not worth talking to a psychotic person like you Jeff, from now on you drown in your own misery and stupidity, nothing you can do or say at this point will persuade anyone in anyway shape or form. And when I find you Jeff, you will pay beyond your wildest imagination in a courtroom.
To everyone reading this post, this is what happens when you get a psychotic person after you.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#118 Consumer Comment
To David
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 24, 2012
I have nothing to do with Forex Factory or Forexpeace Army, just making unbiased unobservations unlike you.
And I keep my postings professional unlike you.
So just send refunds to those who ask and I will leave you alone.

#117 Consumer Comment
Stop with the multiple posts by your multiple personalities!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
David... Look. No matter how hard you try, you can HEAR YOU in your fake posts. You can't help but RANT AND RAVE and use the mason language and conspiracy and just general hatred. Not too many people sound like you man so don't try to act like you have class in another personality because it isn't coming through. It is not what you do and who you are. I don't claim to not overpost but at least I don't do it under multiple personalities, though though I understand that is part of how you market the scam. You are such a looney tune man.
To use an argument that you aren't cherry picking trades is so ridiculous. All you have to do is reset the simulator each time you do a new trade... DUH!!! Don't be so stupid in your arguments man! If you could trade you wouldn't be paying $300 a month to rent out a room in someone else's house. It's just good old fashioned common sense isn't it?
We are looking forward to you demonstrating live trading. I have said it a dozen times and you keep threatening to do it but then you don't do it. Just scalp away man. Chances are you will do fine but it will in NO way reflect what you show in your post dated videos so you should probably be clear with folks on that. You will just be scalping in demo mode if you ever dare do it right?
Call it David's momentum scalper or something but don't pretend it will look anything like your after the fact videos where you cherry pick some long trades OK?
So why don't you and your multiple personalities stop posting and we can agree to wait for your big announcement for your live trading shall we? How is that for a truce?

#116 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Anybody Who Wants To See What A Liar Jeff Is
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
If you want to see what a liar Jeff is, take a look at the following link:
http://host1.bondware.com/~1stWorks/mod/emarket/view.php?msg_id=1112&email=archives@archives
I did a Webinar there in front of 250 traders and achieved a rock solid 90% accuracy rate, showing about 8 trades successful out of 9, which the one losing trade was for a small loss.
This was a Webinar at Online Traders Central, and you can find this in the archives there.
I'm going to do another Webinar there shortly, and this time I'll record the Webinar and put it up on my YouTube channel so that people like Jeff cannot come along and lie through their teeth about me like he does over and over again. And then you'll see for yourself what scum these Forex people are, they are the most ruthless human beings I've ever come across before in my life. Saying they are scum is a major understatement.
Jeff of course is from Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army websites, which are conspiracies to make people believe what they are saying is true when in reality it's nothing but an elaborate scam to trick you and scam you of your money. They cannot prove anything whatsoever, while I've proven the code over and over and over again more times than I can count now.
We are coming for you Jeff, you got bigger balls online than anyone I've ever known, but I'm willing to bet any amount of money in person you are the biggest sissy in the world, 100% guaranteed, all of you Forex people are like that, it's like you are born losers in this life, and your whole pleasure you get is from making people miserable and taking their money from them.
You cannot imagine what you've done to yourself, but you will find that out Jeff.
And when I prove the code again, the first thing you're going to do is come back here and say I lost every trade, only I'll have it recorded so when you do that again people are going to know you are nothing but the biggest liar on planet earth, a Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army scum bag.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#115 General Comment
Jeff's Obsessed Stalking
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
1: I'm not Dave, and I don't sound anything like him.
2: Even if I was, what would be the relevance? The matter at hand is THE SYSTEM, not David personally. Yes I know, you're obsessed with the man, while pretending to be obsessed with the system.
3: Your obsession with calling everyone who disagrees with you a "fake poster" demonstrates your obsessed state of mind. Calm down. Take your medications.
4: David doesn't make fake videos. Although I will note that there is a CLOCK on the video. There are also timestamps on the bottom edge of the chart. You're probably too obsessed with stalking David to actually watch the videos, so you don't know that.
5: If David was losing a bunch of trades, then hitting a good one and cherry picking that one, you would see a large loss in the above dollar amount on the trading pad. If you actually ran strategy runner, you would know this. Therefore if he had previous losing trades, you would be able to tell. I mentioned this before, but you seem to be ignoring it. Wipe the tears from your eyes, Jeff. Take down the binoculars with which you are stalking David, and actually fire up a computer sometime. Try it out, instead of spending all your time making shrill, grammatically incorrect attacks on sites like this.

#114 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Neil's Imcompetence
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
I'm not going to give away what the system is. Nice try. If you don't know what the system is, then how can you criticize it? OH, that's right. You don't criticize the system, you attack the messenger on a personal level.
The system isn't perfect. No system is. Because part of every system is the necessity of being a competent trader.
David's system gives you an ENTRY and an EXIT. If you need him to hold your hand while trading, you can pay a little extra to hang in his trading room with him. He even demonstrates the system on multiple videos for you.
It's not rocket science.

#113 Consumer Comment
To David
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
I have nothing to do with Forex Factory or Forexpeace Army, just making unbiased unobservations unlike you.
And I keep my postings professional unlike you.
So just send refunds to those who ask and I will leave you alone.

#112 General Comment
@ Neil
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
No Neil I am not a Racist-I just dislike all n****** "kaffers" equally. LOL
The whole world knows that most Americans are the most ignorant brained washed souls on planet earth. Do you even know where South Africa is,LOL. We ARE the richest mineral continent in the world, not even a 10th of the minerals has been touched yet that is why America is sticking their noses in Sudan, but for one, just like they go to war and steal other countries oil. I think you need a history lesson.
The enemy have you all hypnotized like a bunch of sheeple ,got you believing that you are the super power of the world. You believe all the garbage you see on Tel-lie-vision, and you believe everything you read in your news paper not realising they tell you what THEY WANT you to hear. I think you must pay a bit more attention to what David has to tell you about the Masons and give up on the oil argument cause it seems that you will never get it anyhow.
I am very great full I incarnated on this earth in a country like South Africa at least we have seen the hard side of life, which of course is also a factor in my succsesfull trading:) I was not spoon fed and don't wait for proof we where taught to think for ourself. By the time our hard times are over in SA...you will have you heads chopped off in the FEMA camps. We will keep a little space here for you if you wake up in time, you plug is about to be pulled.
Grammer, what is that,can you speak my language ,Afrikaans,? at least I make an attempt to speak your English language,never mind if it is not up to your standards, and I am still the best trader in South Africa and I am a girl:) and that is what counts, grammer and spelling does not make me money and does not tell me the truth either.
It is only a fool that will show you their earnings, and what are you going to do when you see the proof, discover your brain and start trading? or you gonna expect that person to waste their time and get something into your scull. Or you gonna target them cause you are from the Mason gang.
Well keep on looking for a stupid that will show you their earnings, only place I have seen snapshots of earning is on the forex scam sites. And we with the brains all knows it is a bunch of garbage.
Keep on living in your little bubble Neil, sadly so.
Fransa

#111 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff Predictable As Can Be
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
Look at Jeff talking his nonsense again, ROTFLOL, Jeff you are the most pathetic human being on the face of this planet, you call everybody here posting me, and you call all my trades cherry picked, lol, you are the biggest loser I've ever heard of before, and now you got your lap dog Neil on your side too, two losers from Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army who cannot stand that I'm taking away all their business, lol.....
Jeff, with each post you make you are making yourself look mind boggling stupid, nobody here believes that all these people are me, you are the biggest idiot on the face of this planet, and the biggest liar I've ever witnessed before, but you Forex people are all like that, it's sad what you people do to others, you rip them off left and right and enjoy doing it.
While I'm the one who helps people to learn how to trade, and then you call me a scam....
I don't blame you though Jeff, if I were you I'd be pissed off at me too, here I am taking away all your business and at the same time exposing you and your scam websites....
Keep attacking me Jeff, your day is coming my friend.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#110 Consumer Comment
Predictable much???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
Hey David. Posting 3 posts RIGHT IN A ROW from your supposed supporters who all sound like you with what they discuss and how they say it. Gee, never saw that coming. The only thing 100% predictable is you David.
When you offered to prove to people you can trade live you didn't do it. Big surprise there.
When you promised to leave here for good, you couldn't do it. Big surprise there too.
When your rake posters offer to show something but then don't... Big surprise...
When you get smoked with attacks that you deserve because after all your ramblings you produce NOTHING but after the fact videos picking your winners to post, you have 2-3-4 posts from your fake personalities you have on here all in a row. Big surprise right?
Even on your latest fake videos, NOTHING is discussed about time whatsoever despite your your "training" videos, that is your main topic. Now your advice is simply, anticipate, get in, if it doesn't go your way way, minimize your losses, get out. Get back in, repeat, let your profits be greater than your losses. Seriously?? You charge for that? That is trading 101 advice David. Simple higher probability pattern trading. Yet you NEVER ONCE mention patterns when you trade or candles right? Yet that is exactly what you are doing. Simple ABC patterns and wave patterns right?
If I were you, I would try to get a long trade everyday and just post that whenever you can get one. It isn't that hard. I mean, right at the open you very often get big move right? Sometimes it happens exactly an hour before that. If not that, then the counter to that move and put that up everyday. If you can't get a big move on a particular day, you can just announce you didn't trade that day because you didn't feel like it or something because you are so busy, busy, busy right in your room you are renting.
I see a lot of scammers very similiar to you do exactly that. They post their BIG successful trades daily but on days where they don't get that sort of a trade, they just say they didn't trade.
You post after the fact video guys pretty much do all the same things I was thinking that would be the next thing you would do. I mean, what's up with the scalping? That is not what you have promoted yourself to be. Just shoot for big trades and only post on the days you hit those. I think people would really find that impressive don't you? That is how you sold so many of what you sold with the promise of HUGE trades everyday right?
Today is a HUGE day for that. Did you see it coming? I mean it was so obvious wasn't it? God spoke to you and told you about the huge spike up today right?

#109 Consumer Comment
To Randall - System what System
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
A system has clearly defined rules or conditions.
David's code does not rules or conditions - just musings!
Tell us all what the 'System' is - I would love to hear it from a unbiased source.

#108 Consumer Comment
To Fransa the Racist!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
God does not distinguish between colour, but treats everyone as equal - which you clearly don't.
YOU ARE A RACIST - that is clear. You deserve to live in South Africa! If South Africa had a Human Rights Department I would report you and have you imprisoned with a few black cell-mates and they would show you what justice is.
God would not condone your rantings - maybe Allah or something false god would.
By the way South Africa is NOT the richest mineral country in the world - Russia and Canada have far more resources. South Africa will implode again because of people like you.
There are only pips in Forex. Dollars and cents in Crude Oil. A real trader knows this!
The word is "prove" not "proof" - maybe that is why you can't get a job - you have horrible grammar and spelling skills!
All I ask is someone, anyone prove David's stuff works with real statements not rantings or selective paper trades!

#107 General Comment
Jeff's Obsession
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
Jeff, you seem obsessed with David. Did he hit it with your wife or something? What's with this personal vendetta?
Why don't you actually try trading the system? Is the system perfect? No, nothing is perfect. Does it work? It seems to for me. Cut your losses and let your winners run.
David has created new videos for each of the last two days. You can tell he's not cherry picking his trades, because the software gives you the daily score. If you actually run strategy runner, you will see that the top number on the trading pad gives you the profit/loss for the day, and the bottom one gives you the profit/loss for the individual trade in which you are currently engaged.
So if David was cherry picking his trades, you would see a large loss in the above box.
Again, you seem to have some sort of personal issue with David. Why can't you remain on topic and discuss only the system? If you don't like the system, move on with your life.

#106 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
It seems that you are obsessed with David on a personal level. Of what relevance is that? You're engaging in argument ad hominem, rather than addressing the matter at hand, which is David's trading system.
1: He has posted videos the past two days. If you check out his videos, you will see him trading successfully.
2: If you want to see a successful student, take me for example. I've been testing David's system on a demo for weeks now, and it's been working fine. I was curious about the system myself. So instead of attacking the messenger, I checked out the system. I'm having a great time with it.
3-6: Well, the rest of your post here is just a series of personal attacks.
Listen, if you don't like the system, why don't you go do something else? Or at least discuss the system, rather than attacking the messenger?

#105 General Comment
Sympathy
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
David you have all my sympathy with specially this Jeff brainless oke and his agenda.
All he wants to do is piss you off, with his rambling about fake posts, he is so stupid that he can not even see what is fake and what not.
You can not fix stupid, there just ain't no tablets for stupid.
He does not even make an effort to come find me on Facebook , he just ignores all our post flat cause he knows if he does find me he will blow his cover.LOL
Well to Jeff and Neil and any other bozzo here that calls David a scam. I will tell you what his video's did for me and without bothering David ten millions times by email or phone , and I am sure he will testify to that, I have never ever even spoke to him on the phone.
2 Years ago I came across, Davids website while I was searching for brokers to trade forex. I was down and out after the bank took back my home and five other of my investment properties, cause as you know or probably don't know that America and England all controlled by Isra-hell and the Vatican which is Satan NWO it self which is busy screwing the whole world over.
South Africa, the richest mineral country in the world and also the only country that is going to stay standing after the pole shift,which these people know ,also had to go under the knife of these Satans, with their false propaganda about apartheid in our country and the man made god Mandela which is actually a terrorist in real life. So now our country which us whites build up was given to the niggers by your country America an her allies Isra-hell and England. That put us whites on the genocide watch list and excluded us from the job market with their clever Black Empowerment Equity plan, and I tell you what these stupid niggers could not have thought this all out on their own, so we know who is behind it as I mentioned.
So in view of this situation in our country I lost everything I owned , I could not get a job as I am white , female, over qualified and to old according to them buggers. I then borrowed money from my brother to buy David's video's and also used my borrowings to buy two contracts to trade oil. In the first 8 months I build my 2 contracts (at the time $1500 for 1 contract) up to 15 contracts. I now mostly trade with 10 contracts, anything I gain over that I take out. There are 3 and some times more that 3 macro's in a day and I am so experienced now that I can at times get +- 300pips (I call them )in one day with one trade. One can make 100 pips everyday taking a macro or scalping the strategies. If you sit infront of the computer 8 hours a day trading like any person working a 8 hour job ,you can do this.
I have just bought myself a farm and cash that was,and do you know much a farm in SA cost go Google it :)
Now I must say I am a very lucky girl cause we trade in $ right?..so when I bring my money over to SA I get 7 to 8 times more when my money gets exchanged to ZAR.
One macro trade with 10 contracts = $10000 , (Ten thousand dollar)
+-R180,000 on hundred and eighty thousand rand , people earn that here in a year.
This will be of value to you in the USA of +-$80 000.
I average between 1800 to 2500 pips a month, now I know not everyone can be at the computer as much as I do but I treat my trading like it is my job. And now I am about to get a Broker in
Europe where I will trade in Euro which I will get an exchange rate of 10 to the ZAR.:)
So guys maybe you should first be in life where I was before you get hungry enough to put in the hours and the effort I put in. I did not wait for a green and red light , I used my own savvy as well
and made a huge success of it and figured trends on the chart that was the same as the automated strategies, even before David sold the automated strategies.
Ok now let me guess Neil will say proof it, Jeff will say its a fake post ,cause Neil wants to be
spoon fed and Jeff is just here to piss people off cause he earns more than this smearing other peoples names.
I dont have to proof anything to anyone, specially not people that put in more effort to smear other people instead of spending their time making money.
You must all be out of your mind if you think I am going to divulge my personal stuff here to you.
And I actually don't give a rats a*s if you want to stay in life where you are. Or more likely you are the scared enemy itself posting here that makes a lot more money taking people money with you computer controlled trading.
I must say I just love making money from Satan himself.LOL
Thanks again David you where not a coincidence that crossed my life you where a God send.
PS:Now you will not hear much from me anymore as you are wasting my valuable trading time, I might just pop in now and again to come and have a laugh at your worthless ranting.
Kind Regards
Fransa

#104 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Amazing What You Freaks Say
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
It's mind boggling the lies you freaks say about me, you must really hate me a lot I'll tell you. Bottom line, I can out trade all of you put together, and nobody believes what you're saying here, I'm getting sales left and right everyday, you are making me more and more money because you are allowing me to convince everyone how effective this is. The more you guys try to hurt me the more you're helping me, it's kinda funny.
And I'm going to prove it even more, everyday, and start giving Webinars again, and start teaching again for $1500 for one week of training, that's what I charge, and I'm going to sell my Automated Strategies again, and I'm going to teach more people than ever before, and people from all over the world are going to learn how to trade Oil, and never again will they trade the Forex market, and go to the loser websites Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army....
You Forex people are the scum of the earth, and the FBI is interested in you now, I'm going to offer my testimony to them and as a scientist be willing to explain to them what you Forex people are doing and what you have done, and Hostgator, the biggest web hosting company in the world, is also apart of this, as they won't allow Forex websites to be hosted anymore due to the lies and corruption within the Forex industry.
You see guys, the FBI is also out to shut you guys down, and I'm going to help them do it......
You Forex people will never learn I'll tell you, and I'm the one with the truth, while you have nothing but lies, I'm the one who can prove everyday, and in front of hundreds of traders, while you can do nothing but lie through your teeth over and over and over again without end.
Rot in your own hell hole that you guys live within.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#103 Consumer Comment
Maybe I missed something...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
All I see are more fake posts and more after the fact videos.
David, I realize you have nothing to do all day but record trades and just post the ones that are successful. I get that. You told us you have no friends and no life and you haven't dealt with human interaction in 20 years so you have nothing but time on your hands in your room that you rent. I think you have skills. I really do as far as creating videos and pulling in the desperate and naive and calling pattern scalping a "code" and such with your after the fact videos posting your successful trades. I was wondering if you might be interested in doing a legitimate business where I gave you the material, you made videos regarding the material that really is legit stuff, and you can spend all day like you do now spamming the internet.
I figure you can make more money, actually get REAL testimonials you can proudly post with permission from REAL people, and you can make a nice living and get a lot of residual income as well. What do you think about that?
I would just need you to be willing NOT to use your name as there is too much negativity about your scamming all these years but I am interested, if you are, in doing a legitimate business because a good internet spammer like you can get us a lot of hits I figure. What do you think?
Ever consider doing something legit??
Let me know. Imagine a life of positivity and not having to fight with people and call them names after you scammed them out of their money etc. How cool would that be??
Just think about it. Anyone can change David.

#102 Consumer Comment
To Randall
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
My offer from previous posts is still open. It doesn`t work!
David runs his demos on paper accounts not live.
Watch his videos and check at the top. Again today`s video is paper traded - not real.

#101 General Comment
Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Randall B. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Just because there are scams out there that involve trading does not mean that every system or every school that teaches trading is a scam. What is your evidence against Oil Trading Academy? It "sounds" fishy? You "smell" a rat?
Why don't you pay for the videos and try out the system? I did. It works great. I'm having so much fun with it that I gave up the forex system I've been running for four years to run this system.
If you're going to impugn someone you should at least be able to back you claims up with evidence. You have not done so here. Maybe the rat you smell is looking at you in the mirror.

#100 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Forex Factory Freak What Did You Say?
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What did you say Forex Factory freak? I'm sorry I cannot hear what you're saying? But just in case you can hear me, here is the next video that makes you look like the lying Forex Factory freak that you are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB-LOUU-feY&feature=channel_video_title
With each one of your posts you are making yourself look dumber and dumber and dumber, into the brainpower of the average monkey.
Next Forex Factory monkey I will win the trading competition here:
http://www.toptradercompetition.com
Then you're going to look like the biggest idiot on the face of this planet by somebody with a thousand times your level of intellect.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#99 Consumer Comment
Let me get this straight...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The entire thread is dedicated to calling you a scam because you post "after the fact videos" showing how you take 100 penny trades regularly.
In your training you discuss that the secret to the code is the market changes course at exact and predictable times.
Your PROOF that what you sell isn't crap is to post ANOTHER after the fact video showing a successful trade where you are in and out scalping the market 3 times and your code is NOW, anticipate the market direction, get in, if it doesn't go in that direction, get out to minimize your losses and repeat. Minimize your losses and maximize your gains. That is your code.... Where did the 100 penny trades go David? I thought that was your claim to fame... NO???
To Recap... WOW!! PROFOUND! After the fact video once again... NOT LIVE, which anyone on the planet can do including my young child and I edit the trades I like and post it everyday. VERY nice rebuttal David and really great advice too. Buy low, sell high, maximize gains, minimize losses. VERY VERY PROFOUND INDEED!
I guess I was wrong about you David. Your after the fact scalping video most definitely clearly shows a code that is run by a computer and not just pattern anticipation buying and selling and general trading 101 advice.
Boy I guess I was wrong David... You are in fact the real deal and you have PROVEN the secret code to me!! LOL
Let me know when you will take me up on live trading for a few days David. Since you are obviously just a demo pattern scalper I can't see why you won't do well so why not just do it??

#98 Consumer Comment
David - Where are the updates
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I would have watched the update videos if I knew about them.
Did you email me them - NO!
Did you email me to let me know that there were on the website - NO!
Did you notify me of these live demostrations - NO!
This is the last email I got from you:Oil Trading Academy TO: @yahoo.com Message flagged Wednesday, November 9, 2011 1:23 PM
E-mail message contentMy support team did not understand what I was trying to tell them, the code is working perfectly as it always has, there is nothing wrong with the code, the room is to help people, lot's of people struggle with this and there is no reason for it, I can just run a room and everybody will be happy, if you can make 500 pennies per month using just one contract and make $5,000 per month trading, is that not worth $300 per month? Believe me it's worth it, and if you are truly serious about this what I'm offering now is the way to go, I've have run a trading room for ten years, the videos was an attempt to teach the code to people, but too many people struggle with the code or struggle with trading in general, the nature of it, the uncertainty of it, the emotions of it, the risk of it into each trade, and the fear of losing. This is where there can be no substitute for a professional trader to trade with, and I can see that if I truly want to help people than this is what I must do, open up a room again and trade day in and day out and make a good 500+ pennies per month, which is a good solid income, move up to 2 contracts and make $10,000 per month. How do you do this in the long run? How do you do this without having a bad wipeout day? You do it by trading with a professional trader day in and day out, that's how it's done, that's how it's always been done, and I guess nothing can change that, not a set of videos or even a secret code, but with the experience and skill of not only a professional trader, but also the one who discovered the secret code to begin with. So sorry for the confusion, I'll take over the emails from now on, although you probably won't be getting many emails from me, I will be trading everyday from this point forward helping everyone I can to make money from this market.
Sincerely, David
Oil Trading Academy
NOBODY CHARGES $300/month for a trading room unless they are making money off of the trading room not the trading!
and before that Aug 2011 for BlackJack:
TO: .....@yahoo.com Message flagged Monday, August 29, 2011 4:48 PM
E-mail message contentDear Oil Trading Academy Clients, We sent you an email yesterday, we are sorry but if you responded to this email we sent we no longer have the ability to receive or respond to this last email. If you have questions or you wanted to "unsubscribe", you will have to do so via this email by responding to it. We are now offering Free public demonstrations of the "secret code" held twice per month lasting for two hours. You are welcome to attend. Also, long before I ever discovered the "secret code" for the oil market, I discovered the "secret code" for blackjack. I discovered this when I was 21 years old playing blackjack for the first time in Las Vegas. For the first time ever I'm now releasing this secret code to the public. If you have any interest in blackjack at all, then you owe it to yourself to get these videos and impress your friends on your next trip to Las Vegas, or make a serious career out of it, my videos show you how to do this. Take a look at my new Blackjack Secret Code website here: http://www.blackjacksecretcode.com Because you are a client of Oil Trading Academy, you are invited to purchase these videos with a $100 discount here: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=VGTXE68XD7Y9S My system produces a 65% success ratio when done properly, and I of course prove my system has a mathematical advantage. And I realize that may be hard to believe, but was it not hard to believe the oil market had a "secret code"? And yet it does right? Well so does blackjack, and I prove that in my videos and that is apart of my guarantee, that I prove a mathematical advantage using my system. If you have any questions or you want to unsubscribe from this list, you can respond to this email and it will be taken care of this time.
Sincerely, Oil Trading Academy
and this one:
TO: ....@yahoo.com Message flagged Monday, August 29, 2011 12:55 AM
Greetings Oil Trading Academy Clients,
We just want to let you know that we are doing a free demonstration of the Secret Code twice per month.
http://oiltradingacademy.com/trainingroom.htm
Also if you are interested in Blackjack, the Secret Code of Blackjack achieves a rock solid 65% success ratio. For being a client of Oil Trading Academy, you are invited to receive a special offer of $100 off the regular price.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=VGTXE68XD7Y9S
Hope all of you had a very nice summer.
Sincerely,
Oil Trading Academy
which I didn't bother to attend because I don't subscribe to the theory of piggyback marketing especially when the first product didn't work!
Did you send out a recording of the event? - NO!
All reputable marketers do!
I just watched your latest video - there is NO code there - just a guess as you reversed and reversed.

#97 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff Forex Factory Scam Artist
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Hi Jeff, I see you're still trying to tell people I'm a scam aren't you? Well here is the video that shows you for the liar that you are Jeff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBG6QKX6aBY&feature=player_embedded
And now I'm going to do a video everyday, and teach how to trade, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me except whine and complain like a baby that you are....
You better hope I never find you Jeff, but I'm hiring a private investigator to do exactly that, and when we find you you're going to pay for what you have done here, I will personally make you pay Jeff, you can talk your lies at Forex Factory and get away with it, you can attack my videos and have them taken down, you can call me with your death threats, and you think you can get away with it, you better pray I don't find you, if I do I'm going to take every dime you have within a court room, and then you can commit suicide for your life is a miserable wreck, you have no good fruits in your life, all you have is lies and destruction and hate.
I truly do feel sorry for you, you have my pity....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#96 Consumer Comment
Neil. Don't be naive
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Do you really think David is going to EVER PROVE anything to you? He just wrote you a ton of crap that said absolutely NOTHING. He says he can have hundreds of people call you and prove to you they are successful, yet he can't produce ONE. NOT ONE including himself!
He says his videos PROVE over and over how easy it is to see and how can you NOT SEE Neil? You can't see because there is nothing as Jon earlier so eloquently put it. Sometimes the market changes direction at the top of the hour, sometimes at the bottom, sometimes 3 minutes before or after or not or maybe 16 after or not etc... There is NO CODE.
When you say you don't see it just like everyone else does, he says you are stupid because it is so obvious. LOL
He promises over and over to prove he can trade but guess what? He won't follow through, EVER. The guy is a nothing but a liar sociopath renting a room in a house because he can't afford anything else. Why? Because he can't trade, he can only scam and because of places like RipOffreport, he is having a difficult time bringing in money lately. Common sense right?
It will not stop the fake posts and hundreds of words diatribes but you can bet, through all of that, you will still have NOTHING of any substance. JUST BULLS-IT.

#95 Consumer Comment
David, Fransa
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I just went to the web-site - there is NOTHING there no videos nothing.
Did you EVER contact me about your trade room or demos NO!
By all means - have those REAL people contact me. My email is above. Crude hit 106.48 today so I hope you weren't shorting from 105.50
And please break up your replies like I do - there are a lot easier to read

#94 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Neil
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Hi Neil, you talk about proving the code, imagine what that means to me? In my videos I prove the code over and over and over and over and over again, it's like some kind of weird joke that you would talk about proving the code. For instance today, what is the code for today on Oil Neil? Do you see the code? Just tell me what the numbers are today for the code? Are you able to do that? If not, then you have absolutely no idea what the code is or how to read it. Obviously this must be your problem. Have you watched both my Update Videos? They explain the code in detail, nobody can watch those videos and then claim they don't know what the code is. Or say that there is no code, both my Update Videos prove there is a code, and cannot be random. You talk about proving the code, where were you when I held all my webinars at my website? I did like 7-8 of them, where were you? Where were you when I did a webinar for Global Futures with 250 traders there and achieved a 90% accuracy rate? Why is it you talk about proving the code when I've proved it more times than I can count? What about all my demonstrations videos, every one of them the code is 08/38/18/48. Every single one of those demonstration videos is using that exact code, how can you say "prove" it? It has been proven over and over and over again, do you want me and the rest of the people using the code to prove it to you forever? And you talk about having somebody who knows the code contact you. Ok, well if you learn the code, is it ok if I have people contact you about it? You'll get about 10 people a day contacting you, is that ok? No of course it's not ok is it? Those people would drive you nuts after just a few days wouldn't they? So why is it you want other people to do this for you but you wouldn't do it for other people? This is why I don't understand you, or the people like you, it's like you just want everybody to do everything for you, you don't want to watch the videos and apply the code, you don't want to watch the chart and find the code, you don't want to see what mistakes you are making based upon the code, you don't want to adapt and overcome, you even talk about it being random when this is 100% mathematically impossible, and my videos prove that 100%, nobody could watch my videos and think the code is random. If you haven't watched the Update Videos then that is what you need to do, they explain the code in great detail, and show it over and over and over again. You cannot imagine how tired I am of trying to explain this to people, most people understand this but those that don't just want to make my life miserable, I'm sorry but I cannot help everyone forever, I have my own life too. I have taught the code the best I know how to do, there is nothing more I can do. Tons of people understand Neil, a guy from Australia just called me 3 times thanking me, he is doing really well using the code and thanked me 3 times for it. I have many people who do the same, sending me emails thanking me and showing me their success. I would never ask these people to prove it to others, that would not be fair to them. Everyone is on their own on this, watch the Update Videos and then go look at the charts and easily find the code. Today's code is very easy to see.....
Happy Trading,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#93 General Comment
@ Neil
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Neil how long have you tried and how many times have you watched the video's and what did you trade, the Intraday, the Macro or the strategies.
You need to use your own savvy as well, I caught on to the strategies even before David mentioned them.
I print my charts and stick them on my wall, and you know what I can identify patterns that repeat themselves. You need a memory and you also need to study the charts.
Fransa

#92 Consumer Comment
Fransa - Read carefully
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I know you are from South Africa - but you don't have to be so f[ing insulting.
Facebook from North America DOES NOT IDENTIFY any FRANSA from Boksburg.
If you could read you may want to re-read the posting above.
This is what Facebook shows to us North Americans: There are only 6 Fransa from South Africa:

I also stated that I purchased the "videos" which David refuses to refund.
The videos don't work. I have done extensive time and price studies and if you DID follow David exactly you would have lost your shirt.
Don't throw insults at people you don't know.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation - email me at nery2525@hotmail.com
I would love to make "150 pennies" (or $1.50 for real traders) in an oil trade
If you can show me what my 2 brain cells are missing, I will gladly shout Jeff out, BUT until then prove it!

#91 General Comment
@ Jeff
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Jeff you are a real scared retard..come get me on Facebook and see how fake my profile is.LOL
When are you going to buy the video's,once you watched them and get yourself a demo Strategy Runner I will call the trades for you..I will do them for you on facebook, for you and Neil.
It is such simple stuff even my 22 year old daughter can do it.
Fransa

#90 Consumer Comment
Chris - Learn to Spell!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Untertaining that is a new one on me - I believe you meant Entertaining!

#89 Consumer Comment
Now you got it David...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Neil. That is David FINALLY learning how to make is fake posts look like they are not him. Nice work David! Now if you can just answer any one of the 6 challenges before you we can actually continue some progress with you. I knew you HAD to listen to something at some point!

#88 General Comment
Neil Facebook
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Neil which facebook are you on..when you type my name in -- I am the 4t one on the list from Boksburg.
Why are you so lazy ,why do you want other people to do your work for you.?
Why don't you watch the video's, don't you have $400.
I joined David's trading room for the first time after 1 year and before that I had success with the trading, It only takes 2 braincells and a memory after you watched the video's, this must be where all you negative people come short, lack of braincells and no memory.
And Jeff I am sure you found me on Facebook, you just won't admit. LMAO
You know the oiltrading works that is why you are so desperate to have a go at David, what are you scared of.
Take them out David me and a few others clever onces here are right behind you.
Fransa

#87 Consumer Comment
Chris - Learn to Spell!
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Untertaining that is a new one on me - I believe you meant Entertaining!

#86 General Comment
Jeff, is a PURE liar. But He is untertaining.
AUTHOR: Christian - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Hey David
Go Go Go. Take that sucker down!!! :D
I am hoping to see peace army............. going down and out of the internet!!! That is all he deserve
What a morron and parano....that guy his!!! unreal!!! Lollll
I think I will help you on his case!!
Take care And
Chris
ps: To all people that want to know the truth about David, Well, He is not a liar. And the code Works perfectly.

#85 Consumer Comment
I challenged you on 6 items... Your response??
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Your response immediately was a fake post followed by a post by you as is your Method of Order. So predictable. So stupid. You can't even differentiate your whacko personality in your fake posts from your personal ones. You have a unique whackjob vernacular David. You can't have your fake posts sound like your real ones idiot! Duh!
Notice to everyone, he didn't manage to handle ONE challenge... NOT ONE. He will not follow through on a single thing he promised either. He can only scam. It is all he knows.
BTW, I didn't say you lived in a one bedroom apt idiot. You can't afford that remember? You had to rent a room in a house. Duh! Pay attention!
Just more empty threats huh David? I will just hang out shaking in my boots while you unleash your holy terror on me! LOL

#84 Consumer Comment
Still Waiting..
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
So far none of David's devotee's have offered to send me their email to help prove/disprove this controversy - that in itself says a lot

#83 Consumer Comment
To Fransa
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Just checked on Facebook - cant seem to find you. There are only 5 Fransa's with pics.
Two dont show their eyes that leaves only Fransa Burger - Green Eyes?, Fransa Du Plessis Katz (sort of blue eyes) and Fransa De Klerk (sort of brown eyes).
So which one are you?

#82 Consumer Comment
Oil Trading Academy is not a SCAM!!
AUTHOR: Peterk - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
I have the secret code videos that I got from David. let me tell you that this is the best edge I ever got trading the financial markets like oil. To the haters out there, have you ever traded the financial markets with anything else? Probably not, right? How are David's videos a SCAM? His videos give you an advantage trading the crude oil markets.
I have traded the forex market. Let me tell you that this market is designed for you to lose. there's is no advantage in this market. Only the 1% win all of the time. People should jump on this advantage that David had discovered trading oil.
David is trying to help people break free of this matrix we all live in. Too many people are brainwashed in this matrix and just don't get the big picture. David is trying to get people to understand the truth out there. A scammer will just take your money and run!!
David's videos will help me to make money and become successful trading the oil markets because I have the code. who would not want an edge these days??? you would have to be on crack not wanting an advantage in the oil markets. My world has opened up since the 1st day talking to David.
Whenever I have a question, David response with a prompt answer about the videos. Brainwashed people just don't get the big picture on what's going on. I like working with David and he tells the truth. To all of you HATERS, you need to get a "freakin life" and better things to do than provide negative comments.
I stand behind David and his products a 100%. They will help me and anyone who works it to be successful in this declining economy to BREAK free of this matrix that we are all caught it. To all of you haters, go back to your miserable existence and get a LIFE

#81 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Going To Find You Jeff
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
I'm now going to go through my business phone records Jeff, and find your incoming phone call, when I find your phone number I will do a reverse look up on it and find out your name and address, then I'm going to file my lawsuit against you.
In all my years on this planet I've never talked with a more vile and disgusting human being than you, you are by far the biggest liar I've ever heard of before by a thousand times. You are pure evil Jeff, that much is for certain.
But don't worry my friend, I'm going to find you, and when I do you're going to regret every word you've ever said to me, I 100% guarantee that, from this point forward my life mission is to find you, and I'm personally going to shut your mouth and there isn't a human being alive on this planet who can or will stop me.
No human being on this planet talks to me the way you do, and you're going to find that out soon enough.
To think that you just sit here and lie through your teeth, attacking me day in and day out, never ending with your attack, saying the same things over and over again, it's mind boggling what scum you are. And I 100% guarantee you that when you see me in person you will pee your pants and cry for mercy......
Get ready Jeff because you are now going to get what you got coming to you. I will have your phone number in just a few days, and I'll be at your house very soon, and then we'll see how much of a man you are, and what you have to say to me in person.....
How much you want to make a bet you cry in person?
Just in case anybody wants to know, I David Kuvelas am giving witness that everything Jeff has said about me in this board isn't true in anyway shape or form. I do not live in a one bedroom apartment, I have proven the Secret Code works more times than I can count, I never failed to show the secret code like Jeff says, Jeff only knows how to lie, that's all he does, he is from Forex Factory, Forex people are the scum of this earth.....
Now I'm going to educate the world Jeff on Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army, 100 more YouTube videos are coming under various keywords to shut your business down Jeff.
Let the war begin between us.....
And Jeff, in case you cannot see this, no mud you are flinging is going to stick to me, people here can see through you now, nobody believes that I'm posting all over the world, nobody believes your stupidity, all you're doing is making a fool out of yourself, nothing more. All you do is attack me because you hate me, it has nothing to do with whether I'm a scam or not, it has to do with your hatred for me, because I'm good looking, and because I'm so smart, and because I broke the Futures markets code, and because I have what you don't have, and you hate me for this and are jealous of me, you are the most pathetic human being I've ever heard of before by a thousand times, a worthless slime bag.
All you do is lie and accuse, lie and accuse, because this is your way Jeff, it's all you know in this life.
I'll be seeing you very soon Jeff, try not to piss your pants when you see me.
David
Oil Trading Academy

#80 General Comment
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Come on Jeff get some balls and go to my Facebook profile...and expose yourself...go see how real I am.Why is it that you keep on ignoring everyone except David's post here, don't you have anything better to do that rambling on like a stuck record about David doing false posts.
I promise you if you trade David's secret code you will make much more money than what you are getting from the people that are paying you to bad mouth other people.
Get your demo graph up and checkout the awesome trade running from Friday ..I caught the run up on Friday ..and you see the +-150 penny gap it opened with on Sunday, it is going to take 2 days to close right down to the bottom. I know this every time it happens 2 days before the time. And I am so good that I even know the rare occasion that it will only close halfway before it goes up again.This trade happens to be the video you see on David's site as you log in.
And it is no way I will show you how much money I am making...I refuse to proof to any d**k head that does not bother take the time to figure it for them selves , it will only take a few mathematical sums, even before you start trading..to figure the potential earnings.
Jeff does Ed Magedson split his &2000 with you that he charges people to clear their names...pretty cheap skate you are.
David have you seen the Personal Quote on this site.
"Great Ideas have always encountered violent opposition"
Quite and contradiction in what this site has to say About themselves.
But you know what I really think David..these people are scared..very ,very scared, cause they know the truth.
Fransa

#79 Consumer Comment
So to paraprase David in a few words...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
1) He won't be demonstrating he can trade even though he has promised to do so MANY, MANY times. He always promises but never delivers on his promises of any kind whatsoever. NONE. He is a pathological liar.
2) He will not produce one single student who is successful with his system despite the apparent dozens of posters that will do anything for to support him. NOT ONE. Very easy to do, but he will not do so.
3) David will never answer the question as to why he can barely afford to rent a room in a house in a low cost of living area in Henderson and now he can't even afford that.
4) David will never leave here despite many promises to do so because narcissist and narcissists can't walk away from where they are getting attention.
5) David will not answer why he desperately put his website for sale (I predicted it would come down soon just a short while ago because he needed to move onto new scams as he has done in the past) and then lied to Jon about having multiple buyers and chastised Jon when he was doing due diligence as any professional would do in a transaction.
6) David will not answer why he self admittedly has no friends for over 20 years and doesn't actually socialize with the human race in a rationale, friendly, and decent manner so he can know what it is like to feel a sense of love, compassion, and empathy. He can't do it.
All he will continue to do is deflect with his moronic ramblings, make false accusations to me and everyone else who points to the facts, and make empty threats both of a legal nature and even of a physical threat. Yet, I won't stop because I know he is lying about all of it and he won't carry through with any threats but he will keep his energy to run his scams because David is nothing but a low life coward trying to steal money from the desperate. That is the only thing in life he is good at. He is good at being a con artist.

#78 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Do You See What Jeff Does Now?
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2012
Hi Fransa,
Notice how Jeff calls everybody here posting me? See how he keeps saying the same things over and over again? And shows no knowledge of the code? See how he keeps attacking me over and over again and will laugh at every person here posting ridiculing them and calling them me?
You would have to conclude one of two things. Either Jeff is psychotic, or he has an agenda.....
Believe me he has an agenda. Jeff is from Forex Factor and Forex Peace Army, and what these guys have done to me is claim that all my YouTube videos were copyright protected by them, and YouTube shut my videos all down, and I'm the one who had to fight to get them back online again, and then Forex Factory had them shut down again, and I had to fight once again to get them back up again. And Forex Factory had them shut down again after that, until YouTube finally put a stop to them.
These Forex people are the most rotten human beings I've ever seen before in my life, they are pure satanic, trust me I've talked with these guys on the phone, and I have the spiritual gift of discernment of spirits, and these people make the mafia look like a bunch of sissies.....
I've had these guys call me on the phone, and the hatred they have in their voice is demonic.....
They hate me for teaching everyone the truth about the Forex market, and about them, that Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army are scam websites, and I've taught a great deal many people about them, just google "Forex Scam", and my video appears there on the first page.....
These Forex people sent out to their email list telling everyone that I'm a scam, and I received dozens of death threats from that.....
Forex Factory and Forex Peace army are the real scam, and the owners and operators of these websites are the ones attacking me.....
As followers of Christ, we are to pray for these people, to pray for our enemies, and I am......
It is God who takes revenge, and God who judges each of his creation.....
They can no longer do anything to me anymore, I'm out of their reach now, the only thing they can do is continue on their path of evil and destruction, because that's all they know, just like their father and that's all he knows.
For those of us who belong to God, we did not choose him, he chose us out of this world, for this world knows not the evil that it is, and knows not the judgment that is coming, therefore it has no fear of God, and God of course allows them to do what they do, so that they pervert themselves, and make their characters manifest themselves, so that they cannot hide behind their evil.
Another words, they have no knowledge of the spiritual. Most all of you with faith have only that, faith, which was given to you by God. I have knowledge, not faith, and this too was of course given to me by God. They have neither of these things, nor do they understand, as Christ said, they have eyes but do not perceive, and ears but do not hear. To them what we say is gibberish and nonsense talk, they do not understand in anyway.
This is why we have been called, and they not.
For instance, I could explain to them that all R rated movies in Hollywood all use God's name in vain in them, making that a conspiracy against God because it's mathematically impossible for every writer in Hollywood to choose to use God's name in vain in their scripts, but they wouldn't understand that.
Or that every writer in Hollywood used Christ's name in place of a curse word, making it a conspiracy against Christ, and they cannot understand.
Or that every writer in Hollywood uses the term "Holy s**t", using neuro science to associate the term "holy", which is pure and righteous and what God is, with the term "s**t", which is everything filthy and disgusting. Getting you into your nervous system to associate things that are holy with s**t. And getting you to associate Christ with swearing and being angry. And with using God's name in vain, breaking the 3rd commandment.
And they of course simply don't understand, nor can they....
The Mason's themselves though are pure evil and they know that they are, they worship Satan and hate God, and hate his Christ. These people run Hollywood of course....
They also are responsible for the Federal Reserve, which has enslaved all mankind to the scam central banking system, which makes all people slaves via the debt, a 33rd degree Mason trick upon the people of the world.....
This is why you see all the sports stars with 33 on their shirts, all basketball stars, all football stars, etc, they all sport 33, which means that 33rd degree Mason's are putting these people as stars to give the Gentiles something to do and think about, a hero to worship and look up to, instead of the living God, or his Christ.....
This is what these people do, they are a million times more intelligent than 99.99% of all people could ever imagine or even comprehend.......
God has given me the knowledge and the wisdom to know and understand what they are doing on a quantum level, breaking their Masonic Code and breaking their Futures Code is just the tip of the iceberg to what these people are doing to the world.
Just remember, we are to overcome these people, and go through the fire, and come out clean on the other side shiny and new like Gold. While they will go through the fire and be quenched by it, this is what hate, and greed, and jealousy, and the love of being unrighteous will bring you......
Now you maybe understand why some people will be put into the Lake of Fire to be tormented day and night forever, because to live is better than not to live, but for their punishment for being evil and not obeying God, they must be tormented so that they do not have time to think about their situation and to also kill each other, for that is all they know, destruction......
The Mason's have built up this system just so that they can destroy it, so that their god (gray alien) will come down and use the global wireless system to control all peoples ability to either buy or sell, and create his own one world system where he will run from Israel, and sit in the Temple and proclaim himself God/Christ.....
I serve the living God, having been called by him directly, and cared for my entire life by him....
My next mission will be whatever God has me do, which may be to expose the Mason's even further, so that their hate can magnify as God sees fit.
God Bless,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#77 General Comment
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
And now they don't place my posts here,LOL.. cause I gave the trade away today, and the Masons don't like it,proof that the Masons are taking David out here.
Jeff catch me on Facebook ..not many with my name, I am the one with the green eyes..lets see how clever you are.LOL
Fransa

#76 Consumer Comment
Hey Everyone... Look at the trainwreck David Kuvelas.
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
For God sakes David. STOP with fake posting and then answering your own fake posts! People aren't that stupid!!
We are all waiting on a few things:
1) You do 3 days worth of DEMONSTRATING your code. You don't have to say what you are doing, just trade and SHUT US UP!! Deal?? How easy is that? You promised... Now deliver.
2) Have ONE person who has bought your crap PROVE they make money using your CODE that apparently now only Americans can't understand unless they are women right?? ROTFLMAO~! You say you have hundreds right? GREAT! Just asking for ONE and that should be really easy since you have SO MUCH SUPPORT from ALL AROUND the world willing to post on here every time you are getting LIT UP. Oh yeah, I noticed on other sites there are PLENTY of fake posts from people right here in the USA so not sure what you are talking about Americans don't understand. Hmmmm You need to be consistent in your conjecture because when you are not consistent, it gives us more ammo to prove what a scammer you are.
3) Tell everyone here why you can't afford even a 1 bedroom in the most depressed real estate area of the USA. We are all curious. Why can you only afford to rent a room in someone's house? I think everyone would like an answer to that. I can't wait to here nonsense answer as I am sure it will be entertaining to be sure
Why don't you put a couple more fake posts tonight and then answer them all at the same time. Looking forward to it David Kuvelas Mr Scientist and Philosopher who is 1000 times my intellect.

#75 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Fransa
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
Hello Fransa :-)
When I said that about girls, I was trying to show them that even girls are doing this, and can trade, when they are men and cannot. I was trying to insult them obviously. I traded stocks for many years, and I had a big gapping website where I had 80 members paying me a monthly fee, and there were very few woman traders there. What has surprised me about this videos I sold was how many woman were doing this with success, and how many men in contrast would say they didn't understand. I have also noticed another strange pattern where most of the people who say they don't understand come from the USA. People in Canada, Asia, and Europe and of course Australia and South Africa seem to understand much better. A little less so for Europe though. People in Asia for instance all seem to understand really well for some reason. Virtually everybody in Australia understands, and these Australian guys are the nicest guys I ever talked with before in my life, and shows me what a hell hole I'm living in the USA where every guy hates your guts, and guys are all competition to each other for girls, hating each other because the woman are feminists who hate men, and go from one guy to another non-stop, turning the entire society into a Saddam and Gomorrah society, where the love of many have waxed cold due to iniquity.
These Australians in contrast are mind boggling nice people, as are Asians too, and obviously South Africans :-)
You cannot imagine what I've had to go through to run this business, people calling me on the phone with death threats, people sending me emails doing the same, people calling me on the phone wanting to talk for hours on end, calling 3-5 times per day everyday. Then on top of it, I go to prove the Secret Code is real because everybody calls me a scam, then when I prove it in real time in my trading room, people go out to the message boards and say things like "the secret code is too arbitrary". How on earth can something have a 90% accuracy rate and be "arbitrary"? By mathematical definition it cannot be arbitrary, instead it must be mathematical by nature, which as you know it is.
Back to woman, I have another insight into that. In all the people who have ever bought my Blackjack Course, the most successful person out of everyone was, you guessed it, a girl. A deaf girl to be exact. I always wondered why that was. One explanation was that she needed something very badly, and when she met me, and I taught her for free, she believed me, and trusted in me, and she didn't think about it not working, she just went into it with both feet first and made it work.
While at the same time, I had these hot shot guys who really thought there were something special and very smart and they couldn't make it work. Or to be more precise, they did not practice, went down to the casino, played one time, lost 12 units $300 and gave up......
This is probably what is occurring with my videos. Some people even email me and say that the secret code is about gaps. Which goes to show they didn't watch all the videos. The videos do take study, and you need to watch them many times to understand fully, and you have to be able to adapt as the code changes, and becomes more tricky. For instance, I've noticed lately they are changing the code during the USA session, it starts off from 9am EST to 12:00 EST using one code, then it changes to a new code from 12:00EST to 3:00EST during the USA session, tricky stuff.....
And people cannot adapt, or study the chart, they simply do not have that type of dedication to learning something new like this. This type of information is for the more serious mind, and somebody who is willing to overcome. One guy after seeing me do a live demonstration said that it impressed him so much he now is going to watch the videos again, another words, the first time around didn't sink in enough, he didn't really believe enough I guess, but by seeing me achieve a 90% accuracy in real time that woke him up.
I am retiring now, this business how stressed me out way too much, when I came out with it I thought I would be regarded as a trading genius, and instead way too many people would call it a scam, especially on all message boards, which goes to show that all message boards are nothing but useless information. Everybody there just calls everything a scam without any evidence for this whatsoever, like crabs they want to keep everybody down.
I hate to give up on all the people I could help in the future with respect to trading, but for me it's time to move on, and having to deal with the negative aspect to this business has taken a toll on me that I'm no longer willing to take, I guess in that sense the enemy wins, as in this world they always do, because good isn't willing to put up their constant "lies" and "accusations", because that is how the enemy operates, by constantly lying and accusing non stop, that's all the enemy can do or knows how to do, is lie and accuse, lie and accuse, without end, because that is the only thing they have to work with. But who wants to deal with that? They are relentless and will never give up, they just attack day in and day out, everyday through email and phone, and they don't stop or give in, their mission is to do this to you, and wear you down, and they know it works, they are professionals at it, and they are very patient, knowing it's only a matter of time before you give in.
I of course have better things to do with my life than deal with that kind of nonsense, and so now I will try to find some peace, which won't come in the USA that's for sure. Just about anywhere in the world outside the USA is going to be a fairly good place to live, where people are still relatively friendly, and value family, and friends, and have some social structure where people will talk with you, etc. Try doing that in the USA and see what happens.
People in the USA simply don't understand either, they are living within such a bubble of lies and deceit they no longer understand anything whatsoever anymore, and it's sad because it was once a great country when I was a kid, but no more, it has become the very evil and perversion that was the enemy from the very beginning, and the people here of course do not understand.
Another really weird pattern I've found is that it's the atheists that don't understand this, and the people of faith that do, and the atheists are the ones who always call me a scam too....
Anyway Fransa I'm really happy that you are doing so well trading Oil, I will put you down as my best student as well :-)
Making both Blackjack and trading Oil my two best students are woman. Are woman smarter than men? Obviously there are special woman who are smarter than men at what men should be good at. But I believe it is God who gives you your abilities, and being male or female makes no difference to God.
God Bless Fransa,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#74 General Comment
Oiltradingacademy is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
I agree with all Christain said. I must admit just one thing David got wrong is when he said that even woman can do this, I disagree for as I can see here is that it is all men calling him a scam and that because they are to stupid to understand the "secret code". I took it upon myself to share with others what I learned from David, mostly I helped men , oh boy what a mistake none of them could get it they not just stupid they are also lazy and wants to be spoon fed. Well no more help or teaching from me you want stay dumb and live in the matrix your loss.
Oh and you guys taking David on for his grammar and language it is so laughable. I have found people doing that are usually the dump ones just cause you can spell does not mean you are clever. I have been taken on by many people about my spelling while they don't even bother to know that English is not my primary language,you see spelling does not give me the truth or make me rich, but I can tell you this much you dumbo's, cause of OILTRADINGACADEMY I am rich.
I might not spell all that well but I can tell you this much,I AM THE BEST OILTRADER IN SOUTH AFRICA. Oh and yes and I am a woman, intelligent and not lazy, I will even go so far as to say that what I learned from David and applying my own savy as well, I trade even better than him,that is what a good teacher he is.
If I could give you my telephone nr here I would so I can just tell you some more how dumb you are.
Fransa
South Africa

#73 General Comment
David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
AUTHOR: Christian - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2012
To Everyone who did make false comment on Davids Product!
First of all, I would say its a waste of time to try to convince anyone here! But the only thing that I can say is that David secret is undoubtly NOT A SCAM.
Well before purchasing Davids product, I was skeptical, and was afraid of beeing scammed. But it resumed at last, to be the best purchase I have ever made.
I Can even tell, Its so simple that anyone who is trying hard enough to understand it, yet comprehend, the way that David teach it, will definitely Catch the secret and apply itrules. When you watch his videos, ITS ALL THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES!! WAOOOOooo!! :)
David, shared is secret with the world so we can all prosper(Money) in a way that would have never been possible for ordinary people. And you guys , are using all you energy to shut him down and saying only supposition like you believe to be true.!???
I seriously dont understand your behavior and that is SAD. Guess What, if you were using your energy to understand the code instead of insulting him in many ways ,you would have found what David is explaining in his videos!
I am just a normal guy like you all! But instead of presuming that what David was sharing was true or not I seriously tought it could be a Gold mine for me !! AND IT HAS !
I would like to remind you, The truth lays within (in each one of us). Like there is two sides on a medal, there is two sides on a coin, There is negative and positive, Good and evil..... In any of these, whatever you choose or accept, it will be a truth for you. Its a matter of belief.
The world that you have has come from within. What reflect the outside world has before started within you........ Thats the way it is and that will never change. If you think David is a lie, then your prophecy will be!! In the opposite, it also will become!
PS:. Personaly, I would not ever want to share a secret like the secret code....May be only with my closest friends and family members. Why bother with oders? Most people a skeptical at first!! People thought that Henry Ford , Thomas Edison ..... to only name a few , were stupide and crazy!!!
And look at it now!!!!!??? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Take care all, Peace!!
Christian
Qc/Canada

#72 Consumer Comment
Demo
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I just visited the Oil Trading Academy website and I see NO link for any demo of Trading room.
How is the free demo going to be undertaken if people don't know about it?

#71 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Jeff
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
The only thing here ridiculous is your assertions that I'm the one posting all these posts, you look like an idiot beyond description when you say this lie, and it's mind boggling that anybody here would be dumb enough to believe this lie since it's very obvious to see that everybody is posting from around the world. Are you saying I'm posting from around the world?
You see Jeff, not only have you called me a scam, you have called all the people here who have posted on my behalf a scam as well. I can only wonder if you realize how much of a scum of a human being you are. But I will let God decide that.....
The next part is when you try to tell the judge how you have no evidence for anything you've said here and why you called me a scam when clearly there is no evidence for this.
People are writing me emails telling me to have nothing to do with you, that you are a slime of a human being, but they don't realize that I would never let a low IQ imbecile like you beat me. On the contrary, as soon as I have your identity, I'm going to make your life more miserable than I think you have the brainpower to understand, and all within a USA courtroom.....
But make no mistake, now that I'm going to prove the Secret Code has a 80% accuracy rate, you are now checkmated, and for your character assassination against me here at Ripp Off Report I will be seeking $100,000 in damages against you.
You see Jeff, not only are you not smart enough to learn the Secret Code, but you aren't smart enough to know the law either, I tried educating you on the Secret Code, that didn't work, now I'm going to educate you on the law and see if maybe you understand this a little better.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#70 Consumer Comment
Challenge
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I am looking forward to seeing what you do LIVE David. I have only seen you do it once in a sponsored event where you were trying to sell your system and you failed miserably. Your first trade was a winner and the next 3 were losers. Of course, the excuses flew when that was happening. I am a good trader and I couldn't figure out what you were doing with the crazy calls.
But hey, let's do it again shall we?
As far as me being from FPA, if I can prove I have no affiliation with them whatsoever, will you HUMBLY APOLOGIZE and admit you were wrong? The answer is NO of course. We all know that.
I will keep this post short for once. I realize the long posts are repeats of previous posts like David does.
I will say I WOULD VERY much like to know ONE person who uses David's CODE with success. Just ONE!
I know a guy in Austin actually that defended David at one point. BUT, and I want to make this clear, this guy knew NOTHING about trading when he bought David's system at all and was convinced it was HIM and not David that was the reason it wasn't real. This same guy has NO USE for David today as he has learned more about trading via real traders etc as he has since learned David's stuff is garbage.
One last thing... David. Don't try pulling any BS where you provide a bunch of email addresses that all go to you to support that you do what you do. That would be ridiculous. I can see that being your next little ploy as you are so predictable. Get ONE person who successfully uses your system who can identify themselves and prove they use your system. Stop with the fake posting crap... Seriously... It is ridiculous already. Surely you realize that. Thanks

#69 REBUTTAL Owner of company
All People Who Say I'm A Scam Are Now Thwarted
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
If anybody here wants to know the real truth, and who is the liar and who isn't, I'm going to make this really simple for you, and beat these people once and for all. From now on I'm going to give free real time demonstrations at my website, simply come into this free demonstration and watch me take trades in real time and win trade after trade after trade, achieving an 80% accuracy rate or even better, depending upon the specific day.
In this way I will once and for all show how is the liar and who is the truth teller, and I will make Jeff and Jon look like the moron liars that they are.
It's funny though because these two online monkey's don't even deserve to be able to speak to me, let alone speak about me in this negative manner, my intellect is so far above theirs it's simply not calculable, and believe me, just like Jeff, after I prove inside my demonstration room an 80% accuracy rate, the first thing Jeff will do is come back here again and say he watched it and that not one trade was successful. And the reason for that is because there is no truth within Jeff, everything he has said about me is nothing but one big lie.
And I almost have Jeff's identity now, he is from Forex Peace Army, and I'm about to file a lawsuit against him for character assassination, and drag Jeff into a courtroom and sue him for $100,000 in damages, and if Jon continues with his post there in the UK, he also will get filed a lawsuit against him.
What none of you seems to understand is that I have a thousand times your intellects, I know that's hard for you to understand, but I'm telling you it's true, you have never once in your life met a person like me, and you are about to be shown how stupid you are for calling me a scam, because I'm the exact opposite of a scam, and now I'm going to prove it to the world in real time over and over again at my website for free.
And Jeff will come on here and spew his lies once again, Jeff is from Forex Peace Army, and he hates me because I'm destroyed his business, and now he is out to destroy mine, but I have the truth, he only has lies, and the truth will prevail, and now I'm going to professionally advertise my website all over the Internet, and bring thousands of people to my site to buy my videos, thank you Jeff for making me do this, now I'm going to reach ten times the people that I've reached so far.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#68 Consumer Comment
To David
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
Shortly after I bought the "system" I asked yoiu about the "trading room" you said there wasn't one at the time and you NEVER informed me of anything else.
You should offer a 1 week trial to show how to use it and avoid any bad-mouthing. I am not paying anymore money for a trading room I dont throw good money after bad (as I consider this to be right now).
I have never heard you say to demostrate it doesn't work in order to get a refund. You need to demonstrate that it does work and show in easy to follow steps that even a girl can follow, because in the videos I have seen it is NOT easy to follow.
Again my offer is open for any of your students to communicate directly with me to show that it works. I have not called you a scammer - so don't imply that I have. I just don't see it working.

#67 Consumer Comment
Jeff
AUTHOR: Jon - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I have to say that sadly i think most of what you write Jeff is correct. The "supporting posts" seem to be written in a VERY similar fashion indeed that is easily recognisable.
Again you can see that he states in a previous post "even girls can do it!" He seems as you say, so prejudice (and arrogant), but beyond the bounds of anyone i have ever known! (And i have travelled around a bit! lol!) Also, Religion is defiantly a control mechanism, and even my religious friends understand that.
I understand what you mean about feeding the beast....but the trade-off is that you might just help someone to think twice! However as the internet is so large...you may want to think about putting your own health first Jeff at some point.
If you can continue, then i think you are doing a service... so to speak.
But i think we have to remember one thing Jeff....
It's very difficult being a GENIUS!
If David was here in the UK, he would defiantly be visited by a few of my media friends from the BBC given what i have learned over the last few days.
We have a number of programmes here that tackle this sort of thing.....one called "Rip off Britain" http://www.rip-off.co.uk/ and there is even a link on there for this website!
Take care now.

#66 REBUTTAL Owner of company
To Neil
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
Hello Neil, my refund policy has always been very clear on my videos, all you need to do is come into my trading room and show me how the code doesn't work, in all the 500 videos that I've sold so far, not one single solitary person has ever elected to come into my trading room and simply show me how the code doesn't work. Why is it that you have never elected to do this? If you think it doesn't work, why can't you show this in a trading room? Should it not be easy to do so?
Why is it that girls are using the code but you cannot see it?
I think some of you are having a problem because you simply cannot see the code, you don't understand the code, and you don't want to put in the effort to get it. Do you realize how long it took me to find the code? I almost killed myself trading the Forex market, and it was during my trading of the Forex market that I discovered the Secret Code, but it took me trading the Forex 24 hours per day for 6 months to discover the code.
But some of you don't want to put in the effort to use the code, you want everything easy in this life, you want a green light/red light to make your trading decisions, you don't want to have to think and use effort, and find out where you made a mistake if you made one, and to look at the chart and see where the code is for that day.
And then when some of you cannot see the code, you call me a scam. Well, if that be true, how did I do a live demonstration for Global Futures in front of 250 traders and achieve a 90% accuracy rate doing roughly 8 trades in two hours? I have 250 witnesses to this, and I'm going to obtain their emails and ask them to post their witness to this here on this board to defend me.
Furthermore, I have done about 7 live demonstrations at my own website, in front of about 30 people each time, and achieving a 90% accuracy rate, they too are all witnesses to this.
If I'm a scam and what I'm teaching doesn't work, how would it be possible for me to show a 90% accuracy rate within my trading room? And at Global Futures?
This is a battle for me between truth and lies, I'm the one who has the truth, and can prove it anytime anywhere in front of any human beings on the face of this planet, I can tell you which direction Oil is going to go non-stop 24 hours per day, and when I ran my trading room people could not believe what I was doing, could not believe the accuracy I had, even saying in advance what it would do because not only do I know the code, but I also know the charts, there are only so many charts the code makes, and I know them all and can predict what it's going to do before it even does it.
This is why I'm dismayed by those of you who have the nerve to call me a scam, it should be a criminal act when you do that, instead of thanking me for showing you the biggest secret in the entire financial industry, you call me a scam instead.
Maybe it has to do with you being stuck within the Matrix? And your mind just cannot accept that the whole financial industry is a scam to begin with? To accept that knowledge would have such broad implications for your mind maybe your mind just cannot fathom it and refuses to accept it? Why else would you not be able to see something so simple like Oil reversing off of 10/20/40/50 for the Specials, and 3/33/16/46 for the keys and temps? Or 8/38/18/48 off the keys and temps?
I mean, it's right there on the chart, easy as can possible be to see, and yet somehow you cannot see it? Maybe your own mind refuses to see it? Or maybe you don't want to put in the effort to see it, I don't know......
But the Secret Code is real, and that is just the code for the hour, I also broke the Macro Code, which is the code for 24 hours, for each session around the globe, able to catch 100 penny and 200 penny trades easy as can be, all based upon the same factors as the Secret Code.
There are a lot of people in this world who don't want anybody to know about this code, people who put the market onto computer control, competition to me such as Forex Factory and Forex Peace Army, there are a lot of people out there who have an interest in discrediting me, and some people who simply don't understand the code on top of it.
But I'm scientist, and you cannot tell me the code doesn't work, for I have proven it works in front of over 500 people in a live demonstration room, and I have brokers who are going to come onto this board to vouch for me that they have seen me do this in their demonstration room.
And more evidence is coming shortly.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#65 Consumer Comment
It was a pleasure Jon
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I am glad you chose to participate in this dialogue Jon.
I have to admit, I didn't look at the eBay link until after I typed my entry to you Jon. I was laughing so hard at the email dialogue between you and David I didn't pay attention that he was trying to sell his failing business site for $30,000. I understand why you make have found interest in it. After all, if someone is trying to sell a business for $30,000, then of course there MUST be something to it right? It obviously does what he says it does otherwise he wouldn't be asking for that sort of money right? that makes perfect sense in the world of real business and civility. But this is David's world he has created for himself and we are only visitors! LOL
So I understand why you were looking into it. Just because he has all this bad press on the internet could easily mean a bunch of people are jealous of David and simply want to bad mouth him and so it is worth taking the time to look into it. I totally get that.
That is why I am really glad you took the time to cut and paste the exact email dialogue you had with him because it clearly demonstrates what everyone is saying about him and he buries his diatribes in other sites so far down that they are eventually lost etc so it is good to have actual proof from your first contact and then supporting emails as he lies about having people bidding on his site because they HAVE to have it etc. When people see how he is first hand with this type of dialogue on this site, they will have it first hand. It also goes with my prediction of his desperation to be done with that site and start a new one peddling some other garbage somewhere so he is very, very predictable to say the least. Once you get to know David, you can predict his moves easily.
His other rants since you posted are very telling as well. He has gone from being a Jesus freak Bible thumper, to now a Muslim apparently. He hates Americans, Jews, Masons, Europeans etc. I am not a religious guy, but as far as I remember Jesus loved everybody didn't he?
He also admits being away from people for 20 years which makes a lot of sense as his only form of contact with humanity is behind a computer and skype and a phone because he is a sociopath that makes up stories in his mind and then convinces himself they are true. He probably has a cat he sits with in the corner everyday petting obsessively and discussing (with his cat) his next move to take people's money
He loves to spout about his "truths" about his conspiracies but when anyone asks for evidence of anything he says we are all 1/1000 of his intellect so there is no way we could possibly percieve anything he says despite there being no evidence of anything he says. God forbit you ask for proof of ANYTHING with this guy! We must trust him because he is a self professed philosopher and scientist and according to him God speaks directly to him!
He claims to make millions yet he rents a small room in someone else's house trying to peddle crap that doesn't work and he spends his days putting up fake posts everywhere supporting himself. I m sure he has arguments with every single person who buys his stuff every single day and he relishes the moment when they call him and ask him to explain why the after the fact videos showing a few good trades don't reflect reality of trading where someone would go broke if they actually did what he claimed was true. He LOVES to berate people. He thrives on it. It makes him feel ALIVE and IMPORTANT. It gives him the attention he so desperately craves. I am sure an psychiatrist could peg him in about 15 minutes tell you exactly what is wrong with him
Deep down, David desperately wants a following. He is looking to be a leader of the desperate and clueless because he needs to be on a pedestal. He makes up characters from all around the world to create a perception he has followers so REAL followers may need to see "what they are missing" etc.
Religious conspiracy and conjecture is the most common way on the planet to control people and get blind followers along with GREED. David uses these tools to attract people and with his marketing skills and ability to put together pretty nice videos, it probably works pretty well to attract people. He uses the most common forms of tools of fear, greed, and religious banter interwoven to try to attract money and followers. Like most sociopaths, he is OK with losing people as he has already WON by getting their money. He has beat them which is important to a sociopath. What is important to him is getting the next victim as he relishes the HUNT of manipulating the next person into his drivel. I imagine David spending hours on the phone everyday fishing for his next victim and trying to get them on the hook etc. He spent hours on the phone with me. I couldn't get him to stop talking actually. In the end. I felt like he is a really good guy trying to do good things and perhaps a little out there in terms of his peronality but nonetheless, I liked him! So I bought his crap! I thought surely there must be SOME nugget in his videos that was good AT LEAST! Right?
Well, the minute I followed up, after coming to the same conclusion as you did Jon, in that it was crap, I approached him very humbly and asked for help because JUST IN CASE I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. That is when the tirade began just at it did with you. I couldn't believe it. Now that he had my money, I was being insulted every which way one could imagine very much like yourself. I was physically threatened as well. I actually couldn't believe what I was dealing with and I really tried to get him to calm down and be rational but it was impossible. He was seeing RED!
So I decided to be proactive in making sure others knew about him. One of this tricks of only charging $400 for something that will make MILLIONS for someone is the idea that it is a small amount of money so people will pay it, get screwed, and rationalize it is not a lot of money and walk away and let him continue screwing people. Well, I don't care if someone is taking a little or a lot from people, I just couldn't stand the guy so I wanted to stop him because he is a mental case and who knows what else he is up to? He may be running a scheme to rip off old people for all I know.
Obviously it was only natural to see David post in a furry after you posted what you did here Jon with his own personal posts and once again promising to leave and not have anything to do with ripoffreport etc but we both know that is impossible. He can't do it. He MUST post his rantings and he MUST do his fake posts from followers around the world acting like they are supporting him despite how obvious it is him. He is an addict to attention and the more he is egged on, the more he will lash out.
He is what he is. I am not sure continuing to post here will do anything more as David will just do more and more fake posts acting like they aren't him and this website doesn't monitor for that like some others do.
I have come to realize I may be just feeding the demon at this point and maybe not doing any good at all. I don't know. But I like to think I have saved a few from falling prey to this evil guy.

#64 Consumer Comment
To Supporters of David
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I bought the system(?) asked for refund (didn't get one). I am an experienced trader and could find NO value in David's work. I would love for any/all of you to show me verifiable proof that this works.
I asked David to put me in touch with anyone who was successful with the "code" and he refused. If the system is indeed duplicatable - show up and show us.
Send me your email and I will contact me and show me verifiable proof that it is works and is not just random.

#63 Consumer Comment
Behave
AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
Guys - let's behave.
David no more horrible language. and refund unhappy clients - they WILL go away.
Jeff et al - just leave the guy alone - you can't rationally discuss things with him.

#62 Consumer Comment
I am a supporter of Oil Trading Academy
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I am here to support David, Fransa, Ralph and anyone who believes in the power of secret and macro codes. I am real and my name is Jane from UK. For those who dont believe on these powerful codes please think again and stop wasting your time by reporting and messing Oil trading academy. No matter what you say about David, I will always be on his side. He sacrificed and shared this knowledge with the world and you guys cant see. Leave David alone to continue with his good work.
Keep it up David and do not let anyone interfere with your business. God bless you.

#61 Consumer Comment
Believe me David is not a scam.
AUTHOR: Ralph - (Philippines)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2012
I just want to express myself here in ripoff and to all the people in this world that I am real , I am not fake, and definitely I am not David who is making this post. I am Ralph from Philippines I have my personal business trading dealings with David. I am grateful to David because of the secret code videos I became more successful in trading.
If you "haters" have really bought the videos, but weren't able to get the code and use them effectively, well then it's not David's problem anymore that your pea brains are so tiny to comprehend these things, you just simply don't have the intellect to understand the code and be successful.
You people should not believe in what these crazy people are negatively saying about David. Clearly they are liars and scums! I am so dismayed upon reading lots of negative remarks against David. I believe and i can assure you that David is not a scam.

#60 General Comment
David is not a scam
AUTHOR: Fransa - (South Africa)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
Travis and Jeff I take it you are Americans..most ignorant people on earth. Someone must be paying you to garrgle all the crap running out of your mouths or you are just plain stupid.
I bought David's video' and are having great success with them, it turned my life around. I tried to help other people and share the code but realised most people are lazy and stupid and wants to be spoon fed so I gave up helping others and now keeping it all for myself.
Travis and Jeff and anyone here that rips David off I think you are all part of the stupid low lifes on earth. Instead of spending your time running David down go learn the code. Oh ...sorry you probably don't have the brains t do so.

#59 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Looks Masons Here Don't Want Anybody To Know Of The Code
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
I realize you Masons don't want people to know about how the entire Futures markets are under the control of a computer program, but now that you've had the nerve to attack me like this, now I'm going to tell people 100 fold, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me either. That's the funny part, is how dumb you Mason's are, I broke your entire Masonic Code here:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/masoncodebroken.htm
And now I'm going to expose you even further, if you guys think your hatred for me now is intense, you haven't seen anything yet, now thousands more people are going to learn of the code, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me, except whine and complain like children.
Soon I'm going to do a cam video, and you and everybody is going to see my face, and know that it is I who has the truth, and you nothing but lies.
Let the truth prevail.....
David
Oil Trading Academy

#58 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Retards, Morons, Idiots And Infidels
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
My knowledge, my wisdom, and my understanding about this world is no longer available to the public. While some of you are decent human beings, most of you are not. Most of you are liars, fornicators, godless heathens and Infidels. And on top of this most of you are stupid beyond description, and there is no hope for any of you. I could try to teach you truth, but you won't understand, you are far too stupid to understand, without you knowing it or realizing it, you belong to Satan.
I want nothing more to do with any of you. Running this website has taught me one very important truth in this life, most people, especially Americans, are scum of this earth. Fat, ignorant, stupid, hateful, liars, and loving to sin and hating that which is good. I have finally woken up to the way people are, having been alone away from people for over 20 years now, unaware of just how bad people have become. Running this business has shown me the way people have become, and now I
understand why God destroyed the world with a flood, and why God was sorry he created people. People by their very nature are scum, envious, jealous, hateful, hating of good, crabs that want to bring everybody they can down with them. Thank God Christ is about to open the first
Seal, and strart the beginning of the end. And here is my message to you
Americans and Europeans, you are the scum of this earth, you are
nothing but a bunch of godless Infidels, while you think the Muslims are
scum, it is you who is the scum, and the Muslims are God's people. I'm a
servant of the living God and have been in the presence of God and God
spoke directly to me, and I'm here to tell you that. What you don't know
is that you follow Satan, and you love Satan, just as you love America
and what it's all about, you love what Satan loves. When Christ opens
the second Seal, you Americans will all kill each other, because you
don't have the brainpower to understand even the most basic things in
this life, let alone anything else. And it's God's Christ who is going
to make you kill each other, because you are scum, not because you are
nice people who are righteous, but because you are the exact opposite of
that, inwardly you are the scum of this earth, following along after
the Synagogue of Satan, dumbed down into oblivion, believing every lie
told and rejecting every truth in existence. After having had to live
around you scum bags for the last 44 years, I'm so glad we're going to
be separated very soon, so that I no longer have to have anything to do
with you freak human beings anymore. You were scum when I was 5, you
were scum when I was 10, you were scum when I was 20, and now at 44 you
are scum beyond description, watching your Jerry Springer, and your
Howard Stern, and your Jersery Shore, and your Bill Maher, and watching
Christ get pissed on, and mocked, and made fun of, and hated and cursed,
all the while you not understanding even the most basic things in this
life. What amazes me though is just how many of you are scum, it's just
like the Bible says you are, and contrary to what the 33rd Degree Masons
teach in the Church, you are not saved by Christ. On the contrary, you
are condemned by Christ, and if you actually read the Bible you would
understand that, but you never will read the Bible because it isn't for
you to read or know or understand, but when I was 12 years old God
called me to read it, while your whole entire life God has never called
you for anything whatsoever. God also saved me from evil, and God saved
me from injury. God has shown me and taught me on purpose here at this
website so that I could get a first hand look at all of you, and see you
for what you truly are, so that when Christ opens the first Seal, and
then the Second Seal, and you kill each other, that I do not feel sorry
for you, because you deserve your own fate. I no longer feel sorry for
any of you whatsoever, and now I know why God keeps telling me I'm so
special to him, and it's not because I'm so good, it's because you are
so bad, all you do is think evil constantly, inside you are scum and
belong to Satan. And I want nothing more to do with any of you, and
never again will I try to teach you anything whatsoever, instead I will
let the Mason's and Satan dumb you down even further so that you worhip
thier god, which is your destiny to do, and I'm glad for that because I
would not want to live in God's kingdom with any of you, you are nothing
but hyprocrites and Infidels and liars, nothing more, and this servant
of the living God wants nothing more to do with any of you in anyway
shape or form.......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#57 Consumer Comment
Thanks Jeff
AUTHOR: Jon - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
Hi Jeff, and thanks for that response. It's a good job i have been to the USA and i understand that David is the minority eh! lol!
Your dead right Jeff, i don't know why i got caught out as I'm a genuinely a diligent individual. Actually i think i do!
I have to say that i was caught out by what seemed to be his honesty regarding his website being a scam!
There are not many out there that have a link explaining that, and i think that is what lured me in.
Since our relationship soured, i have done some research and it is quite remarkable what i have found. But to be honest i only put this on here for 2 reasons.
1. Because of his terribly rude, insulting and religiously fanatical rantings. I am not a believer myself, but i would defend anyone's right to believe fiercely! He sounds like he could genuinely be a danger to himself, but more importantly others!
2. Although i am unconcerned by his threats of making a law suit, everyone can now see the truth. I explained to David that i would give him some feedback after my meeting with my consultant friend Paul. And that is what i did. Then, because he doesn't like the feedback, he threatens to sue. From what i have found, it is pretty common for him to take this stance. It's quite ridiculous.
I am a genuine individual looking for a business opportunity....it was necessary to perform due diligence, and thankfully that saved me! But i could not believe his response, and genuinely didn't know what to say to him at first.
Normally Jeff, i would perform a great deal of research, so the lesson has certainly been learned.
I have blocked his emails now as i don't like to be around such negativity, but i can't help but feel sorry for him...however naive that may be.
Regards to our friends across the pond.
:)

#56 Consumer Comment
A THANK YOU to our Brit friend Jon
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 16, 2012
Jon. I wanted to thank you for taking the time to put your dialogue with this whackjob online for all to see. Your dialogue represents perfectly, in a nutshell, who and what David is all about. He is an internet scammer who, for years, has been peddling garbage via any outlet he can find. Even the name on his PayPal. What can you say? Now he is using eBay? This guy is desperate. I guess he needs to pay his room rent though and God forbid he get an actual job!
Jon, I am a little surprised you even entertained dealing with sociopath if you did ANY research on him at all as this thread is as good as any to clearly see how crazy he is. My hope is anyone who even thinks about dealing with his guy runs across this thread. I fully expect his website to go away anytime now and he will pop back up with another scam very soon.
He demonstrates all that he is via his posts on this forum and lies constantly not only about the garbage he is selling, but the fact he is the one doing the fake posts from all around the world defending himself. On top of that, he promised several posts ago he would not come back here, but he can't help himself. He NEEDS the attention. He THRIVES on the attention. He doesn't care that it is all negative. IT IS ATTENTION and he NEEDS it! This is a guy that rents a room in a house in Henderson NV claiming he can make millions in the oil market or playing blackjack etc. It makes me laugh every time.
As you experienced, and so reasonably and accutely demonstrated via your dialogue, there is no denying this guy needs help in a major way. I would say he must have filed hundreds of lawsuits by now according to how many people he has threatened to sue and yet no one has been served that I know of. On top of that of course, the judge would laugh it out of court and probably recommend some sort of psychiatric help to David. His reaction would be priceless as he was lead out of the courtroom by bailiffs screaming conspiracies by the Jews and/or Masons etc. I would pay to see the entire event myself as I laugh just when I read he posts on places like this or listen to is ranting videos when he is trying to argue against other respected institutions because he is too stupid to follow their rules.
People wonder why I spend so much time trying stick it to David. The major reason is that not only does he sell crap that isn't real, but he is such a horrible as-hole about it. He not only took you for your money, but he absolutely berates you after he did it! A lot of scammers don't do that. This guy absolutely LOVES not only ripping you off, but he just thrives on berating folks after he has done it. That is why I can't stand him. He is just a horrible human being.
Anyway, thank you for taking some time to post here Jon. If it saves a few people from getting ripped off by this scumbag, it will have been worth it.
Hey David, no need to rebuttal me. We know what kind of ranting you are going to do. No need to repeat yourself over and over and over again. Also, no need to post from a fake address etc arguing with me either. I don't even pay attention to those. It is funny how every fake post from every foreign country sounds exactly like David. He is not even smart enough to type broken English and change the context a little bit to at least make the posts sound real.
This post was simply to thank Jon for being so generous to show everyone what it is EXACTLY like to try to deal with you in a fair, reasonable, and ethical manner. This posting by Jon shows EXACTLY what you will get which thoroughly backs up what I, and MANY others have been posting. Jon, your experience is about 98% exactly like mine when I first started dealing with David. It's uncanny.
Why David bothers trying to BLESS us infidels with his million dollar opportunity for a few hundred bucks is beyond me! LOL Keep the hits coming David. This is great entertainment!

#55 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Hi Jon My f*g Brit Friend
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Hi Jon, tell me, has have you talked with your buddy Paul yet? Do you need to check with him about trading? Does Paul tell you what to do or do you just have a f*g relationship with him?
Let me ask you something Jon, do you really think I care what you Infidels think of me? You cannot begin to imagine how I laugh at all of you, it's like all of you are the biggest bunch of walking rejects of human beings this world have ever seen before. I mean seriously, you have no clue what rejects you are, it's no wonder the Muslims call you Infidels, because that is exactly what you are, without God, without morals, without any truth. And what amazes me is just how many of you there are now in this world, fulfilling Bible prophecy of the "falling away" from God. Now the Son of perdition shows up, and guess what Infidel? You will most likely worship him, because you are a first class dummy of the highest possible order and you don't have the brainpower to understand that.
It's like you Infidels are calling a genius a scam, and trying to attack me in whatever way you can, not knowing or understanding you can do nothing to me whatsoever, I'm a genius, knowing more than your pea brains are capable of comprehending on a quantum level, you cannot begin to imagine how dumbed down you are, Ronald Mcdonald rejects of human beings, dumbed down by your masters, living in your matrix of stupidity and corruption, feeding off your own ignorance and lies and hate and greed.
This is why I will have nothing more to do with you Infidels, you are disgusting human beings, and believe me, I laugh in your faces for you know not whom you are speaking to, and speaking about, but one day you will find that out, all of you will, you cannot imagine what the truth is in this life, something which is so far from you it's beyond your wildest imagination.
I do find it funny though how so many people here thought you could hurt me this way, when in reality all you've done is perverted yourself, and you don't have the brainpower to understand, because you think there is no God.
Well, I got news for each and every one of you, God does exist, I have been in God's presence and God spoke directly to me, God saved me from a demonic attack by coming into my room. God is a spirit being, an all consuming fire, and he is beyond your imagination powerful, and you will realize one day very soon my friends that you do wrong when you bear false witness, especially when done so against a servant of the living God.
And by the way, David means "my beloved", and that is God speaking......
So you see my friends, it is God who is with me, and Satan who is with you, let's see who is more powerful than the other.....
Let's see who has the truth in this life and who doesn't?
Get ready for the biggest surprise in your life coming up when you find out the true nature of the living God, and let me tell you, true wisdom is the fear of God, of which you have none, and you're about to find out how wrong you are.
And believe me, I could care less what any of you Infidels think, you cannot imagine how mind boggling stupid you are to me, it's so far beyond your ability to understand it would be like trying to get an Ant to understand Quantum Mechanics.
I laugh at all of you, and pity you for your stupidity in this life, and I seriously honestly cannot wait to be separated from you, for it is Christ who will separate the wheat from the chaff, and I David am the wheat, having taught hundreds of people so far that the entire Oil market is controlled by a computer program, and indeed the entire financial market is controlled by a computer program, something you Infidels don't have the brainpower to understand or comprehend.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
Genius

#54 Consumer Comment
A UK Take on Oil Trading Academy.
AUTHOR: Jon - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
There are lots of opinions on here as well as lots of
accusations.
One post on here David suggest that he is PayPal verified. I
guess he is but why does it say NON US Verified??
This was my transaction.
Transaction #4LS75078D7551****
-$400.00 USD
02/02/2012 13:10 PST
vanessa lou orbe
oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
Web Accept Payment
Sent (Unique Transaction ID #4LS75078D7551****)
2 Feb 2012
Payment To: vanessa lou orbe Completed. -$400.00 USD
Name: vanessa lou orbe (The recipient of this payment is Non-US - Verified)
Email: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
Here is my story.you guys can make your own minds up. This is simply "my opinion."
My name is Jon and I recently found Oil Trading Academy via eBay as David put it up for sale.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130633227949?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413
I was very interested in it, having done some sports trading over the last year or so.
I contacted David via email and even had a short telephone conversation with him, although he did seem surprised when i called.
As my knowledge of the stock market is limited, I arranged for my good friend Paul, who has many years experience in the financial services industry, including trading experience and is now a consultant, to have a Skype conversation with David.
I purchased his beginner and advanced videos, and explained that I was going to have a meeting with Paul to go over his videos and discuss this business opportunity. I asked him if he could supply the Macro code videos to help us understand exactly what the business had to offer. He did so
FOC which i thanked him for.
I am now going to list below a series of emails that David sent to me after he had chatted to my friend Paul.
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: support@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon *******
Message flagged Saturday, 11 February 2012, 18:39
Jon, if you want to buy the site you need to let me know, I have 2 other people who also want it, so if you want to buy it you need to let me know and make me an offer, otherwise it's going to be
sold in just a few days...
David
My reply.
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: Jon ********
TO: support@oiltradingacademy.com
CC: Paul ******
Message flagged Sunday, 12 February 2012, 12:03
David....i never rush anything when it comes to money. I cannot let you know until i have had my meeting with Paul on Tuesday. If that means you would lose out, then by all means sell it.
Kind regards.
Jon ********
His Reply
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: support@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ******
Message flagged Sunday, 12 February 2012, 23:18
I just have too many people asking me about this website and
it's becoming more of a pain than it's worth to me, I want people
to stop asking me about it and I'm not going to put up with this
much longer, either I'm just going to sell it or tell everyone it's not
for sale anymore, so again, if you want it you better buy it soon, if
you cannot than just consider it gone already because I'm not going to
deal with this anymore, I have a million better things to do with my
life....
David
His second reply..minutes later (See date and time!)
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: support@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ********
Message flagged Sunday, 12 February 2012, 23:22
But just for your information, Paul doesn't know anything whatsoever about trading, that much is for certain, and you apparently don't understand what this website is about, and therefore I don't
think you could run it properly.
This website exposes the entire financial industry as a SCAM, it's controlled and run by Jews, they have put the entire financial industry onto a computer program, this website exposes the biggest
scam in the entire trading industry.
Listen, I don't want to deal with this anymore, the website is no longer for sale.
David
I didnt reply to that email, (why should he be so rude and insulting?) I had my meeting with Paul on
Tue 15/02 (02/15 for you guys in the US) and my conclusions are summed up in
my reply to him below.
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: Jon ******
TO: support@oiltradingacademy.com
Message flagged Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 23:43
Hi David, hope you are well.
Thanks for the email explaining that your website is no longer for sale, although I'm not sure what I have done for you to insult me and Paul the way you have.
When I said I cannot let you know until i have had my meeting with Paul on Tuesday. If that
means you would lose out, then by all means sell it I was purely thinking of you. I did not want you to lose out because of my necessary delay.
To say that I dont understand what your website is about may be correctbut to insult Paul the way you did is unfounded and completely incorrect.
Paul is now retired, but he has many, many years working in the financial industry and now makes a considerable living as a consultant. He spent several years day trading, although not in futures, and managed around 3,000 traders working with NatWest.
I spent all day with Paul yesterday going over your videos, as well as trading with Strategy Runner.
I made around 2500 but Paul made considerably more. The experienced trader shone through!
(NOTE) I was not using David's "Secret Code."
Now, onto your website.
You mentioned to Paul that the site is more trouble than its worth and you again mentioned the same to me in an email. You even mentioned to Paul that you may Take it down. If you consider it that way David, I am surprised that you are trying to sell it! Especially for $30,000!!
I may be wrong, but I believe you feel that way because you are getting many complaints, no matter how many videos you sell. Your comments have been noted that if individuals dont get what you are teaching then it is because THEY are thick or stupid. Indeed, you even said to me that GIRLS can even do it!
Having been in teaching and coaching for many years myself I can confidently say, you simply cannot teach people like that. We are all different, and we will all interpret things in different ways; it is your job as the teacher to use different technics to ensure understanding and I am afraid there is so much inconsistency in your videos they are almost worthless.
And of course therein lies your guarantee! Because David, of the following.
You constantly say it is easy regularly followed up with this bit is tricky. Then you say if sometimes it doesnt happen on the hour, it may be 3 minutes before, or three minutes after, or on the half hour with temporary reversals between 10 and 15 past. In the end you have your customers almost looking for the code at Martini Time! Any time, any place, anywhere!
Also many videos have been lost, and this is a problem for integrity.
Having watched all your videos now, and followed the market live for over a week I can say with some authority that while there are some irregular movement reflecting what you say, those movements are neither consistent nor EASY! In fact, there are a multitude of problems with these
training videos. I could go on and on!
If I had blindly followed your advice (as some will, and it is not their fault!) I know I would have lost a lot of money.
You also promote yourself as a highly intelligent individual, scientific and mathematical.
Yet your correspondents show signs of basic grammar problems like using completely the wrong words; "than", when you should have used "then" for instance.
In short, I dont know whether the Freemasons or the Jews as you quote now, have installed a program to control the markets, but your videos simply do not prove anything. And all of the above is bound to make any serious enquirer, sceptical.
Having said that, they have helped me personally, so for that, I thank you.
I wish you good luck with your endeavours David.
Kind regard
Jon *******
His reply..
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: support@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ********
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:00
Jon, in case you didn't know any better, I'm here to tell you, you are a first class walking idiot, I have a bare minimum of a thousand times your intellect, you are like a walking pea brain to me, and
guess what mother f**ker? My videos are no longer for sale to anybody on this planet, and you can go f**k yourself, and in person make no mistake mother f**ker, I would kick your punk f**king a*s faster than your little f**king pea brain is capable of comprehending.....
I hate all of you more than you can imagine, and it is me who has been in God's presence, not you scum bag....
David
My reply.
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: Jon ********
TO: support@oiltradingacademy.com
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:05
Ok David, thanks for that.
I would never dream of talking like that to anyone. I don't know what's happened to you, but i think you need some kind of help.
Jon ******
His reply
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ********
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:04
I hope all is well with you too dumbf**k, and your email has now been blocked.....
You know what's funny Jon, all you Brits are the biggest bunch of sissies the world has ever seen before, you are the ultimate sheep in this life, and you don't even know it, ROTFLOL.....
David
My reply..
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM:
Jon *******
TO: support@oiltradingacademy.com
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:08
I guess your god told you to do it eh David? I guess he advocates violence doesn't he?
Get some help mate.
Jon ********
His reply..
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ********
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:11
You need help also, is there something you could take for stupidity?
Maybe you should stop watching TV? Or talking to mental retards who think they know anything about trading? Huh? Ever thought of that before dumbf*k? Maybe you'd like to have your friend Paul call me again and start asking stupid idiotic questions for you?
Oh and you say my videos are worthless, well I have 500 people who disagree with you idiot, you just don't have the brainpower to understand, because you are a f**king idiot and don't know
it, and I as a genius am sick and tired of talking to you f*king mental f*king retards anymore, do you have the brainpower to understand that? What do you f*king know if this life? Huh?
Can Paul the f*king retard explain even the most fundamental aspect of the mathematical dynamics of trading with respect to a bid and ask? Huh?
How much you want to make bet Paul couldn't even explain this romper room information? Let alone the true nature of trading itself, which is about deception.
But you don't understand that anymore than you understand else in this life, I know more than your pea brain could ever begin to imagine or comprehend on a quantum level, and you have no way of
understanding anything I just said. I'm living on planet filled with rejects retards and morons.
It was my fault for trying to teach you romper room information.....
David
My reply.
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: Jon ********
TO: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:21
Well, i do know that you for such and intelligent individual as yourself you cannot even write with any semblance of correct grammar.
"and I as a genius am sick and tired of talking to you f**king mental f*king retards anymore, do you have the brainpower to understand that? What do you f**king know if this life? Huh?"
All you do is use profanities, insult and name call.
You are clearly a bigoted individual.
And i am the idiot yet you believe in fairy tales...God? Of tny type!
I truly feel sorry for you David.
I will not respond again so please be sure to ban my email this time lol.
Goodbye.
Jon *******
His reply
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon ********
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:24
Yes, do you see what I mean now? You are an Infidel, deserving of death, and death you shall receive, it's no wonder the Bible says you will hate God, and mock him, because it's God and his Christ that is about to make your life a living hell....
And by the way idiot, I have been in God's presence, and God spoke directly to me, and demons have attacked me many times in my life, so you see Jon, it is you who is the mind boggling idiot and
you don't even realize it, and I cannot wait to be separated from you so that I no longer have to live around your filth and disgust anymore, you stick up the whole planet....
David
And his final response so far(I did not, nor will I respond again.)
Re: Make Offer For Website
FROM: oilsupport@oiltradingacademy.com
TO: Jon *******
Message flagged Thursday, 16 February 2012, 0:33
You won't win, trust me, and I'm going to sue you on top of it, I have your address, get ready to be served....
I'm going to show you that I have a thousand times your intellect, and am going to make your life a living hell in the courtroom....
The the war begin,
David
P.S. You are a f*g brit....
End.
I have my opinion but You decide.
Without any admission of any liability whatsoever, and with all Natural, Inalienable Human Rights reserved.

#53 Consumer Comment
To Jeff, the Lonely Internet Police!!!
AUTHOR: Chun - (Philippines)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
Hey Jeff! You sounded like a dumb high school student talking about Big Foot. You have a very lame and poor example. Why not add Loch Ness monster and Dracula in your list. Who are you to tell David to stop posting in the internet? Are you an internet police? Is it your job to screen who should post advertisements and testimonies and who should not? How much do you receive from doing it? Definitely, you are a sore loser or somebody must be paying you to destroy the reputation of Oil Trading Academy. By the way, I am Chun Xiang and I belong to an investment club in Asia... Oil Trading Academy is the best thing the club has ever found. How can you ever say that Oil Trading Academy was robbing money out of peoples pockets when in fact we actually are receiving income out of it I have people here who can also testify of earning from the Academy.. It matters on how you logically use the secret code. Let me ask you Jeff, did you ever try to purchase and use the secret code? Tell me honestly. Coz if not, I challenge you to try it and see for yourself the result and verify if it really is a scam. Anyway, it wouldnt hurt your pocket to invest a few hundred bucks for it, would it? Now, if you already have tried it and still are not successful, then by all means you are welcome to throw all of your bitterness against the Academy. But if you have not tried it at all, and keep on destroying its reputation, then you are a jerk who deserves to be damned for all the rest of your life!

#52 Consumer Comment
Hey David from Henderson, I mean Singapore! LOL
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I made a comment to assist someone who was asking why you SPAM the internet with you BS. That was what i was doing. That person asked the question, and I answered. This is a website to provide a warning to people to help avoid being robbed of their money and I am participating. Very simple David. BTW, didn't you say you were leaving us low lifes behind? You promised David. Yet you were so easy to pull back here. You are very predictable David.
I am still waiting on the lawsuit you are filing against me and it sounds like many others are waiting on their suits as well. You must be too busy making your killing in the markets to file huh David? I mean, all you have to do is prove your claims LIVE and we are all idiots as you say and surely you will sell not only thousands of your videos but you will be able to demand A LOT MORE than a piddly $400 right David? Let's go to the Black Jack table in Vegas and let's clean their clock together shall we? What do do you think? Get out of that rented room you are in and let's get in your Ferrari and show ME a thing or two right David?
Your challenge me to prove your videos false. That is like challenging me to prove bigfoot doesn't exist. Surely Bigfoot must exist right? After all, there is plenty of video evidence and people that have seen him right? And those people that have seen bigfoot, like you, are 1000 times my intellect I am sure and I am an idiot for saying bigfoot doesn't exist right?? I mean... Look, you have plenty of after the fact videos to show you must be a master the markets and therefore make millions because after the fact videos PROVE you know what you are doing right?
You see how the bigfoot reference makes sense David? You are like a consiracy theorist that claims bigfoot exists becausee you have fuzzy videos that prove he does and you have plenty of people (that you create as fake posts all over the internet including here) that come out to defend you when you are attacked for being a lunatic. They all appear as soon as you are getting in your blood bath every single time. You must have a lot of friends right David? I mean, this is the internet and all these postings from all over the world from your millionaires you have created are taking the time to defend you must make you feel amazing right David? Did you ever wonder how I know so much about you David??
Everyone knows you are a lunatic, or perhaps the Village Idiot as it were, and all you have to do is ONE action to make it all go away and rake in your millions. Walk us to the cage that you have bigfoot captured in and you have millions coming in your door and you can move out of your rented room! It is that simple David! In case you didn't catch that it is a euphemism for saying, simply take a week to show us your LIVE trading to demonstrate your CODE and we are not only all put to rest, but you suddenly get a following you couldn't even imagine because you became a hero and slayed they saysayers! The Underdog WON! Can't you see yourself in that role David! I mean, a narcissist like you can surely see yourself in the role of hero who has slayed the "dummies" out there calling you out right?
No David, I don't have to prove you wrong. You need to prove you are for real. I can' t PROVE you can't do what you say you can do anymore than I can PROVE something that doesn't exist, doesn't exist right? Do you understand that logic? I can CLAIM I am God Almighty just living a life of observation on this planet and I can claim that is true and then challenge you to prove me wrong but since you can't, I must be God right? I can do 100 videos - like you- and make commentary on all of them live and the ones that work out, I post, and the ones that don't work out, I don't post, just like you do. Stop spamming the internet as you have been doing for years with your car sales sites, gambling sites, Forex trading (all failures) and now this from your rented room in Henderson. Surely you are a creative guy that can earn money with your creativity in some other capacity that serves humanity in a positive way can't you?
Why steal from people? How can you preach what you do and then scam people like you do? I guess that is a stupid question as basically that is one of the defining characteristics of a sociopath so no use arguing about it right? Logic would be wasted on an argument like that.
BTW, when are you going to shut down that website and start a new one? What will be the next scam you are running? Anything on the horizon?

#51 Consumer Comment
Learning the help David is offering
AUTHOR: Maria - (Singapore)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I have been reading this report long ago and it seems as though it's a constant bickering between David and Jeff. David being the subject of hate by Jeff.
To Jeff since you claim that what David is selling is just a scam why don't you debunk his videos and prove to us all that it is indeed a scam! Have you seen his videos? Because if so, you would have stopped barking by now but if you have seen his videos and still you are like this then I have something to tell you - stop barking, stop gambling and start studying the market. Truth is, the market will move up and down, up and down, and then shoot up killing all? your sells then it will shoot down, killing all your buys, the statistics has it that there that most people CRASH AND BURN, very quickly. It is Davids videos that can help you understand why it's happening and prevent yourself from going downhill with tradings that alone is already a big help worth more than the price he is selling his videos. So stop barking and start studying the market better yet start watching David's videos.
Thank you

#50 Consumer Comment
Read this entire thread... This is how he advertises
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 29, 2012
David puts comments all over the web trying to drive people to his website. It is no different than when you read any comments section on any site and you see misc SPAM messages on the comment section trying to drive people to a site that is irrelevant. David is not an oil trader or any kind of a trader for that matter. He is an internet SPAMMER... I mean "Marketer"... Yeah that's it. That's what I meant.
He uses different IP addresses and different accounts etc and just SPAMS everywhere and then prays to his God that people don't find this site to see the truth of what he really is, which is a scam artist.
To think that he claims to have a secret worth millions both to break the blackjack tables and trading and desperately trying to get $400 on videos after the fact is so ridiculous but I guess there are suckers born every minute and people as desperate as David, who can't even afford to stay in a 1 bedroom apt in Henderson, will keep fishing to get them on the hook. Yes, a millionaire trader can't even afford to live in a 1 bedroom apartment!
My guess is that his next move will be to change to a different website and basically SPAM everywhere all over again with that because certainly people out there like us exposing this scammer I am sure are taking its toll on him. Usually that is what most Con artists do. They just disappear and reappear under another name so expect that next to be sure.

#49 General Comment
what do's an ACTA report have to do with oil trade?
AUTHOR: zenith - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 29, 2012
i came across this interesting comment when i clicked on a youtube link. http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/26/meet-sopas-evil-twin-acta/ it was by a user called kLeXz and i would very much like to get his opinion on this. if this Davids address was checked using Google earth it may be worth checking the date that the pictures were taken. if i may say that this David got to defensive for no reason at all. if he was a good trader then he would have no problems proving it.

#48 REBUTTAL Owner of company
World Is Filled With LOSERS
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I'm here to speak the truth about the people of this world, you are ALL LOSERS of the highest possible order, every single one of you. You all lie through your teeth, you all bear false witness, you all hate and are jealous of anything and everything, especially you young people, you young people are the filth and disgust of this world. But who can really blame you though, you did after all grow up on video games which taught you to murder and kill people, and without your ability to comprehend each time you press the trigger button you see a ball on top of a pyramid, what you don't have the brainpower to understand is that this ball represents Lucifer, he is sitting at the top of the pyramid, and you brain dead human beings are sitting at the bottom of the pyramid. It's symbolism for showing how stupid you are, under the control of Lucifer, he is teaching you to kill and murder other people and love doing it. You got to love Goyim, they sure aren't very smart that's for sure.
And listen, just in case you brain dead human beings don't understand this, you can say anything you want to say about me, that won't change the fact that I'm the one with the truth and you have nothing but lies.
I laugh in all your faces, I really do, go to my website and look under "About Us", and you'll see that I laugh in your faces, I ridicule you and laugh at you, all because you are so mind boggling stupid, and because you are scum, you hate God, you hate good, you hate the truth, you love to lie and bear false witness, you call a servant of God a scam, etc.....
Don't worry my little friends, your god is coming soon, and you will worship him, because his ways are your ways, you belong to him and serve him, with your lies and your evil, and your jealousy of me. So many people are jealous of me, and yet I'm helped hundreds of people learn the secret code to oil, and yet you come on here and bear false witness against me, because this is your way, the way of evil, the way of Satan, for Satan is a liar and the father of all lies.....
I David stand with a clear conscience, having spoken the truth about all matters, including Oil Trading Academy and the Secret Code and Macro Code, which teach the computer program behind the Oil market and indeed the entire Futures markets.
I'm a genius, not a scam, and these people here who call me a scam are low life individuals who hate me, and want to try and hurt me the best they can, little do they know there is nothing they can do to hurt me, they work at Mcdonalds, I know the code for the entire Futures markets and discovered it in 2006.
I wash my hands of this website, people are never going to stop calling me a scam, this is simply the way people are, they will con you and lie to you and think nothing of it, and when somebody honest like myself comes along, these same people do nothing but attack me.
Welcome to the world, please enjoy your stay......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#47 General Comment
Damaging to my Psychological Well-Being and Very Unprofessional
AUTHOR: Joe - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I know nothing of this man's services. However, when called a scam on Youtube, he quickly resorted to sleazy insults and petty threats.
It seems to me that someone who ran a legitimate and functioning business would simply let the consumers speak for themselves. Instead, he physically threatens those who are sceptical of his product, and then claims to file lawsuits against them (although those suits will undoubtedly be thrown out).
This man has threatened my physical well-being, and has therefore inflicted psychological and emotional damage on me. He has threatened to take me to court for expressing my opinions. He has insulted my intelligence, thereby ruining my reputation among internet users. In my opinion he is as unprofessional as they come, and I would strongly suggest not purchasing anything he has to offer.

#46 Consumer Comment
Sounds like a scam, smells like a scam. use your logic!
AUTHOR: don - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Simple logic here, if the author "David" does have a secret code that really works, why would he ever wants to share or sell this code. He would have made a lot more money himself by using this code to trade! I've been trading stocks for a long time and i have some trading secrets that helps me to avoid losing money. I will NEVER EVER EVER share them with anyone!
The truth is, in stock market(or currency market, or futures market), whenever there's a secret that leaks out, that "secret" will immediately stop working because too many people are using it. Market makers will even try to use that "secret" to lure inexperienced trader in.
Therefore, in my experience, 100% of all the "secret codes" for stock trading or currency trading or future trader, are bogus.
Use your own brain!

#45 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff The Psychopath
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 01, 2012
At least now everyone here can see what a Psychopath Jeff is, very clear for everyone here to see that. Yes Jeff everyone here posting is a fraud and you're the only real loser here.......
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#44 Consumer Comment
I am not a self proclaimed scientist and philosopher but...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 01, 2012
I don't think I have to be a self proclaimed anything to have common sense.
I can do simple math or logic or even simple philosophy or psychology like most people with even an average intellect (which is 1000 dumber than David mind you - LOL) can surmise that a guy peddling crap on the internet making fake postings of happy clients everywhere that just happen to come out every time David is getting his a-s kicked in one way or another from folks calling him out on his false claims and his nutjob rants that David is a psychotic, sociopathic, narcissist.
I mean, anyone who claims to have a blackjack CODE on a card game clearly stacked toward the dealer as all Vegas games are and yet he can't afford even a 1 bedroom apt 20 miles outside of Vegas... Duh... Obviously he is a liar. There is only ONE way EVER to get ahead of blackjack over time and that is an ability to count cards. Despite all the scams running on the internet, there is no other way. 99.9% of people selling garbage like that are running scams to the desperate. If there was another way, Vegas would be done but it isn't because it is not possible. To think so it just plain stupid.
Then, David, the same guy, claiming he has a "secret code" trading the market and using Internet Marketing 101 tactics all over the internet everywhere claiming he has something to make people millionaires for $400 when he can barely afford to live himself is the funniest friggen thing ever! I mean, to think he spends his time trying to sell his scam system the way he does rather than just make his millions using it - I mean - duh - who can't figure out this guy is a lying sociopath? I truly invite people to listen to his rants that he puts right in video form attacking people that have called him out. You can both listen to his words as well as his voice and I think most people will surmise what a clown this guy is.
Does the market have time cycles? Of course it largely has time cycles. Read about Gann or any number of proven traders and systems that clearly show it does. What it doesn't have, is a day in and day out time the market turns on any exact timeframe etc. It both varies based on recent history and as well as other conditions. David has no CODE for God sakes.
David can no more predict the market with his supposed accuracy than anyone else can and the claims of 85% to 90% are so ludicrous. If this guy could do this he would have folks offering BILLIONS for his CODE but since it is not real, he is having trouble getting $400!
If he could what he says, he would at least run an extremely successful subscription service (which he has miserably failed at) making tons of money like anyone who is a truly successful trader. Since he can't do that, he spends his time trying to get $400 at a time from people one by one. If he could trade successfully, you wouldn't see him making an a-s out of himself everywhere on the web promoting his garbage. You would see him letting his live record do his talking and he wouldn't need to scrape by living in tiny 1 bedroom apartments and living in bedrooms in other people's houses but the pitiful fact is, that is what this loser self proclaimed "scientist" and "philosopher" sociopath is.
If you give him money, consider it a "donation" to feed this guy but don't think you will get getting anything of value because if you are going in thinking that, you will be upset. Maybe some of you think $400 is worth it for the pure entertainment factor of listening to a real live nutjob hollering and screaming and discussing conspiracy theory etc. If so, good for you.

#43 REBUTTAL Individual responds
David IS NOT scam!!!!!
AUTHOR: AliFiroozi - (Iran)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
Jeff and anybody else who thinks David is scam!
I don 't really know why you guys keep slandering like
there is no tomorrow! why the heck are you doing this?
It sounds like you 're really enjoying this!
I 've been trading the Commodity Futures markets for
years now and have always known for a fact that nearly
all of them are controlled by a huge power! this without
a doubt is Illuminati! well, cycles and patterns don 't lie!
they do exist! but it looks like you guys don 't want to see
the truth!
Dear Jeff, I 'm not fake! bought the videos three months ago
and I 'm really happy I did! time cycles exist and David is right!
Please stop slandering!
Thanks!

#42 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff The CryBaby Of The Planet Earth
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
Hi Jeff,
If I'm a scam like you claim, how come you are the only loser here on this board claiming I am a scam? Why is that Jeff? Where are all the hundreds of people very angry that I've ripped them off? Why are you the only loser here? And why are you going everywhere all over the Internet telling people I'm a scam? Why is it only YOU doing it Jeff?
I've sold hundreds of these videos Jeff, why are you the only loser here?
Can you answer that Jeff?
Tell me Jeff, if you have bought my videos, just tell me this:
1. What are the names of the reversals in my video course?
2. What is the signal for when the market goes into "trend mode" as described within my videos?
If you cannot answer these two questions then you have not bought my videos and you are a total 100% fraud of a human being.
Show the audience here and the Judge that you have bought my video course.
But you know you cannot Jeff because you have not purchased my videos, you are just a loser in this life who has a hard-on for me.
I cannot wait to hear you explain to the Judge why you have a hard-on for me, lol.....
David
Oil Trading Academy

#41 Consumer Comment
Is it me or YOU that is your own worst enemy David???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
Good standing with PayPal? Big deal! ANYONE can have goodstanding with paypal as long as you have the proper disclosures and not offer any sort of "guarantee" etc and sell a product as low priced as you do where no one wants to pursue anything against you selling your garbage. There are at least 3 reasons you don't sell your "code" for more money.
1) It is a price point that the most desperate on the planet can afford and that is your market... the desperate looking for ANYTHING to help them no matter how far fetched it is. That is internet marketing 101 and you know it because you have peddled all sorts of crap on the internet over the years. That is what you do, you peddle crap and are merely a snakeoil.
2) You sell a product that you can argue, which you always do, that people aren't "using is right" and it is there fault and not yours. I know that for a fact and so you do you. If it doesn't work, it is there fault.
3) The price point isn't enough to bother suing you etc so you rely on that.
If you sold your product for thousands, which you could do easily do if it were real, then you in fact WOULD BE exposing yourself to lawsuits because that is an amount people would be upset about. Of course, you don't sell if for thousands because it isn't real.
I noticed you don't address the questions of whether you are truly a scientist and philosopher or merely "self appointed"
You don't address the fact you lived in a 1 bedroom apt for years because that is all you could afford and now you merely rent a room in someone's house...
You don't address that you have been kicked off of a number of legitimate and long standing websites where you have attempted to peddle your crap for rules violations and slandering other people etc. You can't even follow rules or behave like an adult and you claim to have and be something more than anyone on the planet.
You tell me. Do you think it is YOU or the many who you have pissed off and been lied to and cheated etc? Do you think you live like a pauper peddling crap on the internet to anyone who will listen via fake posts and a handful of videos showing your occasional successful trades when anyone on the planet can do exactly the same thing as you do and video 100 trades and take the successful ones and post them for all to see has anything to do with you or is it me? Do you think it is YOU who can't demonstrate your system live consistently and therefore run the most successful live trading room EVER because you don't have a system that works in anything you are peddling or is it me???
Keep it coming with the nonsensical arguments and claiming your are still selling your crap. We both know that isn't true. And yes... Of course I have your stupid videos. They are just like the ones with the links you posted above that prove NOTHING but that you like to ramble on forever and make claims with no proof behind anything you liar.

#40 Consumer Comment
It took me patience to understand it....
AUTHOR: xiang - (Taiwan)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2011
I've heard of this oil trading academy and I thought this is just one of those gimmicks that suck people's money of their pocket. I was really skeptic about it and it took me time to finally be convinced to try this one out. Anyway trying this won't really hurt me financially. It was a gamble though... So I did try it. I purchased this secret code videos that this David claimed to work. It sounded so promising and to good to be true. It took me patience to understand it. Now let me testify that the secret code DOES REALLY WORK! I am encouraging those who also benefited from this secret code to also testify of its truthfulness. To those who are against Oil Trading Academy, I would certainly question you if you really have tried this at all or not. Because if you did, and became successful, you wouldn't be on the other side, would you? So maybe, it's only either, you have not tried it because you don't have the guts and you are just jealous of the success of others, or you have purchased the secret code and is just dumb enough not to comprehend it. As simple as that!

#39 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff The Loser Of Planet Earth
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2011
Let me ask you a few questions Jeff, see if you can answer them.
If I am a scam as you say, how come Paypal keeps doing business with me for the last 9 years, since the year 2002? Are you saying that Paypal is also a scam? They would keep allowing me to scam other people? Why cant you complain to Paypal Jeff and have them shut me down? Do you really expect everyone here to believe that Paypal is a scam? Here is what Paypal says
about me:
support@oiltradingacademy.com is PayPal Verified
PayPal's Verification System allows you to learn more about users before you
pay them through PayPal. Verify that the information below is consistent with
the business, organization or person you wish to pay.
Email:
David@oiltradingacademy.com
Status: Verified
Account Creation
Date: Aug 14, 2002
So are you saying Jeff that even Paypal themselves are a scam? If I am a scam as you claim, why hasnt paypal shut me down yet? What do you suppose is their problem Jeff? Tell the audience here your best theory for this, I for one would love to hear it.
You expect everyone here reading this to believe that all the other posters here are all me posting from different locations? And you expect everyone to believe that all the reviews at my website are fake reviews? And you expect everyone to believe that all my videos were all faked somehow?
You sure do expect people to believe a lot dont you Jeff? But you know what, I think people believe you are a liar, plain and simple, because logic dictates that you are a liar, and its obvious for everyone to see how you have a hard-on for me, and want to attack constantly, spewing hatred and lies out of your mouth.
Jeff, I hate to tell you this, but I just got 4 sales in one day, by what youre doing and drawing attention to this website you are making me have even more sales than before, so youre idea here is backfiring on you, instead of hurting me now youre helping me, because as you speak and as I
speak, people are starting to see you for what you are, and seeing that it is me who has the truth, and you who is speaking lies.
And Im going to wake them up even more Jeff, and teach them about you, the Masons, what you people have done to the USA and the world, perverting the culture, getting everyone to love Feminism, gay marriage, getting people to believe they evolved, or that there were dinosaurs that lived 65 million years ago, ROTFLOL. You Masons crack me up, no wonder you hate my
guts, no wonder you guys send me death threats, because Im the one who is
going to expose you now.
And tell me Jeff, show me one good thing youve done for other people on this planet? Here, let me show you the good things Ive done:
In this video and show how evolution is a mathematical impossibility:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kCGYbjU30E&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I show mathematical proof that humans have souls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lea_0yy1Joo&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I show the scientific nature of good and evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APteM6w79XY&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I give an inspiration to you on how to overcome evil, people like Jeff in this world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAgpTUhhr78&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I show how the Forex market is a scam market:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbHZtuOcuGA
In this next video I give a preview to my Blackjack Secret Code videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBXOrNo7c4I&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I show how the website Forex Factory is a scam website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZLpjDOwZ7o&feature=channel_video_title
In this next video I show how the website Forex Peace Army is also a scam website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQYdyIUGTT0&feature=channel_video_title
On the following web page I show the Masonic Code, which I broke in 2010:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com/masoncodebroken.htm
All of these things I have done for this world Jeff, to help people in many different ways, to help them understand this world better. I have broken the Futures market code, I have broken the Blackjack code, and I have broken the Masonic Code, which the Masons use to pervert the world into ignorance and stupidity, which you know all too well Jeff.
So tell me Jeff, what good things have you done in this world? Except to call a servant of the living God a scam?
By the way Jeff, from your posts its very clear youve not purchased my videos, you talk about the code being that it reverses off the top and bottom of the hour, clearly you do not understand what the code is, you have not bought my video course. You are nothing but one big gigantic liar
Jeff, and I sure do hope you have a good lawyer, youre going to need it thats for sure. Claiming somebody is a fraud and a scam when you havent even bought their videos is going to fry you in the courtroom Jeff, and apparently you dont have the brainpower to understand that.
You must really hate me, and just think, if you hate me now just wait for a little while longer, your hate is about to be magnified by a thousand times Jeff, watch and see..
David
Oil Trading Academy
Scientist & Philosopher

#38 Consumer Comment
Hey Chen, Amor, Henry, etc... DAVID
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2011
Hey David... Kind of a hassle to keep doing new accounts to continue to post under different names isn't it? I don't have to do that like you but I realize because of my TRUE LOVE for my fellow man, I am hear to help fight people who ripoff other people claiming they are selling something they don't have. I realize this planet is filled with scam artists screwing people out of their hard earned money but as far as I am concerned, I can either stand idly by as he makes these false claims with his ridiculous videos and calling people retards and claiming he has 1000 times superior intellect to anyone that challenge him etc, or I can be part of the solution and save as many as I can from his scare tactics and conspiracy theories BS and religious rants etc. People like David annoy me because they are a part of the problem, or the dark side if you will. Good people need to stop bad people from screwing other bad people and doing that takes a relatively small effort on my part so I might as well spend the time giving people the facts. People like this guy obviously believe in doing the right thing as well as he picks apart David's nonsensical arguments and really puts him in his place:
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/spammers-hall-shame/11235-well-let-me-spam-you-secret-how-paying-me-money-will-make-me-money.html
David uses as many forums on the internet that he can to promote his garbage so in doing that, he is opening himself up to rebuttals from people who know that truth about his garbage. Hopefully he will continue to downgrade his living situation even more so he is soon without options and he has to get a real job rather than taking other people's money who buy into his stupid after the fact videos that anyone can see don't happen regularly in the market at all. He is a joke and needs to be stopped and take his talents and use them to benefit humanity, not take advantage of the unsuspecting.
I look forward to the next fake post under a new name from another poster from somewhere else in the world ASAP. Keep it coming David Kuvelas Mr Scientist and Philosopher. By the way, can you prove where you got your degrees to call yourself those terms or are they self appointed as if we didn't know?

#37 Consumer Comment
To Jeff
AUTHOR: Chen - (Taiwan)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2011
Hey pal! What is wrong with you? You're so full of sarcasm and lies. Can't you do anything better but to destroy David's reputation? He is not a scammer. Haven't you ever experienced to earn when David revealed his secret code to the public for FREE? Well, I have enjoyed it! I have earned big from it. Perhaps you're just a no good lonely sore loser! Shame on you and I pity you! All you need is love this new year man! Have a change of heart. Best wishes.

#36 Consumer Comment
As predicted... More threats and fake reviews on same day...
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2011
David the scammer is so predictable it is not even amusing anymore. Just as on other sites, his fake reviews come one right after the other as he spins his tails of falsehoods. You are so predictable it is more stupid than ever. I can't wait to see you in front of the judge trying to PROVE you can do anything you say you can do when you can't even afford to get a decent place to live. What a joke! Remember, you have to PROVE I am spreading falsehoods right? Good luck with that. You going to show him your old AFTER that fact videos??? LOLOL LMFAO!!!!
Come get me with your millions you make taking Vegas and the markets to the cleaners David! So many are so thankful for you only charging a lousy $400 to learn your "secrets" to making millions! How blessed we all are to be sure! You are nothing if not incredibly AMUSING and for sure an internet scammer and the thing is, all you have to do is have a trade room for one week showing you can do what you say you can do day in and day out and you will make TONS of sales, but you won't, because it is a con. VERY SIMPLE

#35 Consumer Comment
Watch Your Word
AUTHOR: Amor - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2011
Hi Jeff,
I can't help but notice your presence here, I have been reading your postings saying all youve got to put down David and convince everybody that he is a scammer. But whatever you do, you cannot prove to us and to everyone, especially to people who used the secret code videos successfully and until now their making their own fortune,that David is a bad man. I want to inform you that I am doing well in my trades using the secret code videos and thanks to David. The secret code videos are really working accurately well for me.And to you Jeff I can testify that youre wrong about his videos and youre saying the wrong words to David since I knew him in a long period of time. Im doing well in my trading with him and I cant believe that you describe him as a rat, scumbag, moron and etc. imagining David as that? That is Impossible because I knew him as kind, good man and honest exactly opposite of what youre trying to say about him. Those words you've described David seems to me that you're describing yourself. Better go and do something else and get a life instead of fooling people to believe you.

#34 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jeff Whacked Out Of His Mind
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2011
Hello Jeff,
I'm so glad everyone can see now how whacked out you are, here my clients are speaking the truth with their reviews, and you come on here once again with your blabbering nonsense. I'm so glad you are doing this because when I take you in front of a US Judge, they are going to tar and feather you like there was no tomorrow. Tell me Jeff, do you have any evidence whatsoever that I made up these reviews? Any evidence whatsoever sir? Not only are you calling me a scam here, you are also calling all of them liars at the same exact time.
I would ridicule you here Jeff but it's a waste of my time, I will let you drown in your stupidity and misery as a human being, and let you say whatever you want to say, but I'll bet you any amount of money you want to bet that the Judge will make you shut your mouth, especially when I'm awarded $50,000 for my lost damages from you.
It's sad there are human beings like you in this world Jeff, you are pathetic slime, thankfully that is what the court system is for so that people like me can get justice from people like you. Otherwise what would happen is that people like you would have to be killed instead, otherwise you'd just go around slandering people with no regard whatsoever to what you're doing, thinking it's ok what you're doing, having the nerve to do it in the first place.
I've almost got your IP Jeff, just another week or two and I'll have it, once I do I'm going to post it here including your name and address, so that everyone can know who you are. Then I'll take pictures of you outside the court room and post them on the Internet so that everyone can see the slime ball that you are.
I know you think you're going to get away with this, but you won't, I'm spending whatever money I need to spend to nail you to the wall, you will pay for what you've done here, I 100% promise you that Jeff.
But just so you know Jeff, I laugh in your face for being so mind boggling stupid. Oh and by the way Jeff, if I am a scam, how come you cannot shut me down? Are you a sissy or something is that what the problem is Jeff? Can't you call Paypal and complain about me Jeff? They won't listen to you? ROTFLOL......
What a first class walking idiot you are Jeff, and everyone here can see it so easily too.....
See you in court soon enough.....
David
Oil Trading Academy

#33 Consumer Comment
Now David is spamming ripoffreport with fake reviews!!! LOLOLOLOL
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2011
Lest anyone think the last 4 reviews are REAL think again. They sound the same and they are done like all of his reviews he fakes on other sites as mentioned before because that is how he promotes his stuff, FAKE REVIEWS. They guy can't help himself. He is a scumbag who makes idle threats, posts fake reviews everywhere, is kicked off of just about every legit trading forum there is, can't run a legit live trading room because he can't really trade, used to live in small 1 bedroom apt and now lives in a room in someone else's home, does only the very occasional after the fact videos any moron can do to seem legit, and is is a babbling idot lest any normal person with an average intellect can't ascertain by now but listening to his BS and nonsensical ramblings. If you believe these fake reviews he is now spamming on ripoffreport, then you deserve to be a victim of this low-life scumbag who really needs to get real job and quit scamming people.
More threats and fake reviews to come following this LEGIT and TRUTHFUL post...

#32 Consumer Comment
The best money making opportunity ever !!
AUTHOR: Henryk K - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2011
This is a great opportunity to make a lot of money!!!! I've been trading for 8 years now, but this has blown my mind , and will make me a rich man soon. I only can recommend this "Secret Code", which price is a "steal" compare to the money you are able to make within a short period of time.This system works, and I've tried it!! Thank you so much David.
Regards,
Henryk

#31 Consumer Comment
The Only Review You Need to Read.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 26, 2011
The best way for consumers to determine if a business is legitimate is by the reviews of its customers. I have used David's system - both Oil and Blackjack. I have made money using both methods, period. I have documentation of my trading records, as well as proof in my promotion card record at the casino (despite David's warning against this, which he explains in the video). I am a living testament to the functioning of his methodology. In addition, he posts updates to his videos so you will retain your edge, should his system have any faults.
David is an individual who believes in the truth. We are the type of people that believe, by concealing the truth, one is abetting and aiding those people who choose to conceal and suppress it.All of those people who claim it is a scam are too incompetent to follow instructions, or pay diligent attention to his instructions. He has a new set of videos coming out soon that will update, expand, and reconfirm his winning strategy.
Don't think I'm telling the truth? Then don't mind any of these reviews and go along with your life. All you're doing is missing out on one of the most precious opportunities of your life. Spread the word and spread this review.

#30 Consumer Comment
Oil trading is not a scam
AUTHOR: Jane (UK) - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I do not believe what I have been reading in this website. Jeff, please stop messing David up. David is not a scam and his videos are real and are working for me. I recently bought the videos and I have found the secret code and the macro code very power in my current trading. Yes, this purchase is the best thing I have ever done in my life. I have previously spent thousands of pounds in purchasing other strategies that never worked and lost a lot of cash trading those strategies.
Jeff, you need to open your eyes and see, these videos are real time and I have seen David explaining them before the actual action and it works.
David, Jeff is wasting his time and your time writing unnecessarily to spoil your name.
Thanks David for sharing this great secret with us.

#29 Consumer Comment
Trading oil academy RAT ?
AUTHOR: william60 - (Thailand)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I am sending this Rebuttal over the comment on the oiltradingacademy.com website and the comments mad by the guy who smalls a RAT i say WHAT !!. Let me tell you my story. I found this site and product on youtube and watched i would say up to 6 hours of videos on a nice sunny day in Thailand. Ohh please explain why does it make a difference where someone lives if his product is good or not. I am a retired firefighter/Paramedic with 27 years of service in west palm beach florida, who cares where i live. I live in paradise [Thailand] where the hell do you live ? [i really do not care ].
OK back to the issue, I really spent alot of time studying this before i purchased the videos both the advanced and macro code. I did exactly as instructed. I opened a demo account so i could follow what dave was saying in realtime and on the same platform he is showing in the videos. I was very impressed as what he had said worked well. It was work nothing is easy and not a get rich quick scheme you have to put in your time and efforts.
I have watched both sets of the code three times and i will tell you this every time i watch them i learn something new. I will spend again many hours this weekend doing it again i will view the videos and i am sure with confidence i will learn something new again. THIS SITE AND PRODUCT WORKS YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK TO LEARN IT !!. Please do not judge the person or product by where he lives, dresses or talks. I wish you all a very happy Holiday Season and a Happy new year. William from Paraidise [Thailand]

#28 Consumer Comment
What about the spam?
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Among many of the other complaints here, haven't addressed your comment spamming, David. What about that?

#27 Consumer Comment
Which of my accusations is a lie David??
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Tell the good folks which of my accusations is a lie?
Does the market really turn on the hour or is it sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't just like sometimes it turns 20 minutes past the hour (or so) and sometimes it doesn't?
Is it not well known in the history of trading to LOOK for trades at around the top of the hour BECAUSE of the psychological probabilities that it COULD happen but it most CERTAINLY doesn't happen the majority of the time? If it did, would not whole trading world be onto it, or just you David? Cannot anyone on the planet do their own due diligence and look at all of the top of the hours and see for themselves that the market in fact doesn't turn the vast majority of the time during that timeframe? Can't ANYONE on the planet do that and prove you wrong?
Are you a multimillionaire because you have the "secret code" for both the markets and blackjack (ROTFLMAO) or do you live extremely modestly working very hard everyday posting all over the internet trying to sell your God given highly intellectual, highly scientific, extremely complex, incredibly accurate systems for merely $400? Are these not 100% facts easily proven or is it just me?
Are your videos NOT videos done after the fact and few and far between because you can rarely accomplish what you say you can accomplish and therefore don't post daily videos showing your DAILY success with the "code"? Surely if you are as good as you say you are, you could post daily videos could you not? Would not everyone on the planet CLAMOUR for your stuff if you did that and you could charge many multiples more? yes or no?
Please tell the good audience whether you very recently spammed my email trying to sell more crap as I posted above for all to see. Is that not a real SPAM email from you or did I make that up? YOU TELL ME Jeff. Did I just make up that email?
Rather than make vague inuendos about suing me over my lies and slander and baring false witness etc, tell the audience specifically where I have lied.
Do you really and truly think recording hours and hours of videos and showing JUST the times the market turns on the hour proves anything at all? Really? If that does, I can make videos after the fact showing every time my dog lifts his leg to relieve himself the market turns. If I do that, do I have a miracle dog and do I get to say I have a secret code too?
Why is it that you get attacked by every legitimate site out there by legitimate people with legitimate arguments and you whine like a child and site religion and conspiracy theories (with no supporting evidence just conjecture) and cry victim and verbally and physically threaten people and everyone on the planet is "retards" -to use your EXACT word - and you have 1000 times their intellect - to use more of your words - and you are not slandering them?
Tell the audience where I have lied as we are all waiting with your superior intellect as I am merely a mortal and I obviously have no idea what I am talking about despite the overwhelming evidence. Right?
If you don't present anything compelling for ONCE, I will let you continue to bury yourself and look like the fool you are as continuing to post forever on here is getting very repetitive. You have offered nothing new to support that you are not the scammer I accuse you of.

#26 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Cease and Desist
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Hello Jeff,
I am giving you a cease and desist letter here on this forum, since I do not yet know of your address. If you continue using slander against me and clearly lying, you are going to be held directly accountable with this cease and desist letter. I will show the Judge this writing to you, and show the Judge how I tried my best to warn you, so if you continue from this point forward, the Judge is going to know you are purposely doing this on purpose even when you know that you're lying.
The video I provided shows the proof, in the court room I will have 15 signed
affidavit from clients who have bought my course. Furthermore, I will have the
payment processor themselves (Paypal) show the complaint and return rate of my
videos, proving to the Judge that my videos are real, since they have the lowest complaint rate in the entire industry. The Judge is going to see that you are nothing but a liar.
I sure hope you're a kid, because you obviously have no idea the trouble you're
getting yourself into. Maybe you're not from this country, I don't know, but
whoever you are, you're going to find you're making one whopper of a mistake.
And for those who understand logic and reason, the video I provided shows
mathematical proof the entire Futures markets are controlled by a computer
program, and the only people who deny it are the Mason's, because they are the
ones who put these markets onto a computer program. Tell me Jeff, are you a
Mason?
By the way, I will be bringing into court with me all the people names who've
bought my videos, and if your name isn't one of those people, you will be
tarred and feathered in the courtroom by the Judge. And guess what, I don't
believe you have bought my videos, you know nothing about the code, so you are
in more trouble than you realize Jeff, I hope it was worth it to you.
Here is the video again for the world to see that Jeff is a liar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccWgywe-xzw&feature=channel_video_title
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
Scientist & Philosopher

#25 Consumer Comment
Want more PROOF???
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 19, 2011
Look at David's after the fact videos and he gives you the secret CODE. He says the market reverses at the top of the hour and the bottom of the hour and shortly after one of those, OR NOT. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Pull up any chart and you will find it MOSTLY doesn't and yet, he claims he has the secret. Look for yourself on ANY chart in FOREX or Futures or Stocks and MOSTLY, it doesn't. Does the market turn in certain similar timeframes over time during certain times of the day? yes... that is VERY COMMON knowledge... Is it controlled by computers? Well, A LOT of computers are involved in trading these days so YES, that is part of it, sure... This is common knowledge... That is David's secret.
Now, remember, David MUST be a multimultillionaire SURELY right? After all, Google oiltradingacademy + forexpeacearmy (a legit business for MANY, MANY years) and listen to him rant and rave. Then, get him on the phone and pretend you are interested in getting his crap and ask him if he will show you LIVE that he can do what he says he can do and see what he says. Hear how he acts. You are asking a totally legit question but he will go CRAZY and attempt to make you sound like you must be STUPID for asking... He will call you names and he will go into his ranting and raving and why? because you asked a legit question... Do it. He is accessible. He LOVES to talk to anyone who will listen. It is actually very entertaining.
Oh yeah... then google blackjacksecretcode also and listen to that video on there. Now, BlackJack is a losing game UNLESS you can count cards and then it takes skill and patience and and time and then you may get ahead. That is the only proven system on the planet but listen to David say that is BS. Listen to David's claims now. Listen to what he says he can do. Once again, this guy should OWN Vegas if he is the ONLY one of the planet that can do what he does at the tables while also making a killing in the futures market. Guess what? He went from living in a tiny apartment to now living in a room in a house that has been for sale for months now. Yep, that is your Philosopher and Scientist MILLIONAIRE charging merely hundreds of dollars to turn you onto secrets that will make you MILLIONS! All for the common man!
Yep... this is the guy that is going to SUE me. For what? You think he is going to prove to the judge he is doing what no one else on the planet can do? This guy that spams the web web with his advertisements to the desperate and naive rather than asking for 10s of thousands or even hundreds of thousands from people that can afford to pay it and would with any proof at all. He is a slimebag trying to take your money from you...
THINK ABOUT IT... can he really do this or are these after the fact videos that he records when it works?? use your head people. He is a scammer and he will use all the classic strategies of religion, conspiracy, post recorded information, and fear to get you to send him money.
ASK HIM TO DEMONSTRATE HIS STUFF LIVE... Go ahead... See what he says... SCAM SCAM SCAM

#24 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Don't Worry Jeff, The Process Has Started
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 19, 2011
The process has already started Jeff, and I certainly hope you can prove everything you've said, otherwise what you've done to me is slander me in public, for which I'm going to sue you and show that I've lost a great deal of money because of you Jeff, because of your lied, and unlike you sir, I can and will prove everything that I've said making you a liar in the process.
Furthermore Jeff, I will now in public make you look like a first class liar that you are sir, and do it mathematically, showing once and for all to anyone who reads this that YOU are a LIAR, and the scum of the earth, and don't worry, because everything is being recorded for the Judge, and I'm going to be laughing super hard at you when the Judge asks you why you have done this, and what your excuse is, for which you will have none Jeff, and you will be held liable for your slander against me.
Now this scientist will show the world that you are a liar Jeff, by showing that the entire Futures markets are controlled in direction by a computer program. Watch it and weep Jeff, this videos makes you look like the FOOL that you are, except you're not really a fool Jeff, just a scum bad liar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccWgywe-xzw&feature=channel_video_title
Now everybody is going to know that you're a liar Jeff, including the Judge, and I cannot wait to see you in person too....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy
Scientist & Philosopher

#23 Consumer Comment
Do your worst David.. Sue me
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 19, 2011
There is absolutely not one thing I have reported on this website that I cannot prove to be 100% the truth. On the other hand, try proving you really have success trading the oil market. You can't because you have no proof. Making 100 videos with predictions and putting the few chosen ones online where your predictions actually worked out do not constitute making money in the oil market David.
All you have to do David, is put up a brand new video every single day making your predictions and people can see for themselves how amazing you are. Then, you can charge $5K for your "code" and people will line up to pay for it. Heck... You can charge $50K and they will line up right Genius???
Stop pandering to the desperate folks out there and taking their last dollars acting like you have something when you clearly do not. Stop the religious rants and conspiracy theories and nutjob things you say to people on-line. You sound like a complete fool.
I now know what you are doing now by the way. You are playing the role of being "persecuted" and trying to be Jesus Christ to attract a legion of followers etc and using the fact that good people are calling you out for your BS as fodder to get people to follow you because of your "persecution" and all you are trying to do is get out the TRUTH. But it is for a PRICE right David?? Tell me. What did Jesus cost people to get the TRUTH?? That's what I thought.
Despite the fact you have all the answers to people's prayers and have a code that surely has you rich beyond anyone's wildest imagination - as you live like a poor college student and you beg for folks to part with $400 or $1000 or whatever you are doing now - you are a legit "philosopher" preaching the word of God and making the world a better place through telling people of your conspiracy theories of which not one you have any proof of whatsoever. Keep threatening David.
Your threats are as hollow as your "code" and empty conspiracy theory rantings. Stop screwing people man. Seriously

#22 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Civil Lawsuit Coming Against You Jeff
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 10, 2011
Hello Jeff, since you want to continue to bear false witness against me, I am now filing a court order to have your IP turned over to me, once I have your IP address I'm going to find out what your name is and where you live. After I do this Jeff I'm going to file a Civil Lawsuit against you for bearing false witness against me. You are going to learn a very hard lesson in this life Jeff, you're going to learn that if you like to lie about people, you better be ready for the consequences.
Furthermore Jeff, I'm working on a video right now that's going to prove the entire Futures markets are controlled by a computer program, which I will prove mathematically and scientifically, making you look like a first class idiot and liar in the process.
Jeff, let me just inform you of something, you are the scum of the earth, and I'm going to make you pay for what you've done to me.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#21 Consumer Comment
I tried to stay away BUT..
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 05, 2011
This guy's actions are so overt in trying to make money peddling his garbage I had to comment again. First of all, apparently he tried to open his room again a couple of weeks ago as mentioned on a post earlier and guess what? the only trade he made, he lost. That was it! No more trades, no more comments about it. He posted his "performance results" truthfully on the site acting like he was going to continue to demonstrate his validity in upcoming days live so I looked for forward to his proof etc but guess what? NOTHING. The bad performance stayed up for about 10 days, it is now removed, and he is just back to updating his site to sell his crap again. In fact, I JUST yesterday got this email from him:
{This is your chance to learn the truth for yourself, the fact that the ENTIRE futures markets are 100%
controlled by a computer program, with scientific mathematical proof that
nobody can deny, go here to download the Secret Code videos for FREE:
http://www.oiltradingacademy.com
I'm a scientist and discovered this truth in 2006, and now I'm revealing this truth to you for
FREE, so that you can not only wake up to what's really going on, but also so that you can profit from it.
After you download these videos and watch them and realize the truth for yourself, I also offer then Macro Code videos which will show you the computer program on a 24 hour basis, allowing you to hit really big trades for the big money.
This is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and you don't need to believe first, you can see the proof for FREE first, and then if you want to be able to do even better than what you can do with the Secret Code, then you want to get the Macro Code as
well.
Watch these Secret Code videos and you'll discover the nature of the computer behind the entire Futures markets. Why not make 2012 the biggest year you've ever had financially?
Sincerely,
Oil Trading Academy}
The reason this irritates me more than anything else is on occasion in his scamming career, he does try to put on live calls or operate a live room but it always shuts down for lack of performance and people unwilling to pay him for his calls. That speaks VOLUMES.. He then resorts back to spamming people, like he just did me, and running advertisements anywhere and everywhere while posting fake comments from supposed happy clients etc. What's worse is he uses religion and conspiracy, 2 often used methods of gaining people's confidence (notice "con" in confidence"" to carry out his scams.
If you ever ask him to prove himself LIVE rather than these after the fact prepared videos that anyone can do and simply post the successful ones like he does, he will eventually physically threaten you. He does it all the time. He is mentally out there and while you may find yourself wanting to believe in him because of your GREED which he is appealing to, resist the urge. I am taking this time simply because I feel like I should because every chance he takes to truly prove himself he thwarts and he reverts back to his old shenanigans as always. He is what he is. Just another scammer. All the best to you folks.

#20 Consumer Comment
NOT A Scam At All.....
AUTHOR: Wilson - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 18, 2011
I trade almost a year already. At first I was unsure thinking its a scam but I am so glad, I did, because what I found out was the accuracy of the course. You know, Oil Trading Academy taught me an effective trading strategy to trade and become profitable on a consistent basis.
Trading needs constant practice. So if you are a beginner, do not expect that you can get much money as you expect. You need to work hard for it! If there is something that you do not understand, do not hesitate to ask David or people from the Oil Trading Academy, I am pretty sure that they will give you all the information you need to know.
Oil Trading Academy does work, they are not a scam at all!

#19 Consumer Comment
OK David we got it!!
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 03, 2011
OK David we have it. You're not a scammer. You are selling a game changing life changing "code" that is changing people's lives and you have been pushing it all over the internet in any forum where people will take a listen because you are such a good guy and want the world to hear about making millions with your amazing "secret"!!
OK already.... WE GOT IT! No need to keep making fake posts under different names like you do everywhere else where people argue with you. WE GOT IT LOUD AND CLEAR! OK??? Thanks for being so kind as to desperately want to get the word out there via various internet forums and not peddling it to wallstreet or billion dollar fund managers or making it outrageously expensive so us little people can stand a chance to realize our dreams! You are not only incredibly intelligent and an amazing story teller but amazingly good looking and I feel as though I am not worthy!
Thank you very much for your gracious generosity David as with the CODE has changed my life and I feel priviledged to be one of the chosen to have received it. Thank you! You don't have to post anymore under any other names. I am good. Thanks again for being you!

#18 Consumer Comment
See for yourself, Nov 22. David's Proof of the Truth.
AUTHOR: rlee87 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 03, 2011
I am a client of David's, and I must say he is a very talented individual. I assure you he will unlock secrets that you have never imagined possible, and he will enlighten you to a perspective known to only a few. I can say for myself that I've made money through his system, and that if learned properly, it can make money for you too.
Check out his Demonstration Room on November 22, 2011, and see if he's the real deal or not for yourself. I recommend it.

#17 Consumer Comment
I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
AUTHOR: Bruce - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 02, 2011
Oil trading Academy has led me to have a successful life. The Secret code is so far the best tool i have right now in trading. I am one of the many traders who have been successful because of this code.
I admit, David and I had some misunderstandings at first, but we were able to settle it.I admire this guy so much because of his will to help others. And this guy is kind enough to spend his time entertaining my endless questions to the extent that it seemed like some of my questions were already nonsense. I am sorry for that David. But I should say thank you for your generous heart, definitely 400$ for the videos is not enough to repay you for the success that I am achieving now because of what you have shared to me and to the world.
And also I was able to attend the free live demonstration together with others who were curious and interested, and we were able to witness the what is called the secret code. Since then, I have continued to use the secret code in all my tradings and this is the reason why I earn more than enough every day.I dont want to talk about the exact figures I have in the bank for you to believe how successful I am by the using that code. But I just want to convey and prove that oil trading academy is not a scam, never was and never will be. I believe that David does not deserve to be called a SCAM as well as the OIL TRADING ACADEMY.

#16 Consumer Comment
I Confirmed it is NOT SCAM!
AUTHOR: Bruce - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 02, 2011
Oil trading Academy has led me to have a successful life. The Secret code is so far the best tool i have right now in trading. I am one of the many traders who have been successful because of this code.
I admit, David and I had some misunderstandings at first, but we were able to settle it.I admire this guy so much because of his will to help others. And this guy is kind enough to spend his time entertaining my endless questions to the extent that it seemed like some of my questions were already nonsense. I am sorry for that David. But I should say thank you for your generous heart, definitely 400$ for the videos is not enough to repay you for the success that I am achieving now because of what you have shared to me and to the world.
And also I was able to attend the free live demonstration together with others who were curious and interested, and we were able to witness the what is called the secret code. Since then, I have continued to use the secret code in all my tradings and this is the reason why I earn more than enough every day.I dont want to talk about the exact figures I have in the bank for you to believe how successful I am by the using that code. But I just want to convey and prove that oil trading academy is not a scam, never was and never will be. I believe that David does not deserve to be called a SCAM as well as the OIL TRADING ACADEMY.

#15 Consumer Comment
Proud to let you know that I am a success
AUTHOR: Zander - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 01, 2011
Trading is not really easy, especially when you dont have any idea how to do it! We are just lucky enough to have this guy who discovered about the pattern in Oil market. I must admit that before, I wastefully spent my money. I learned the secret of trading at Oil Trading Academy by using the secret code and the macro code. Now, I can testify that I am earning big out of learning the secret code of oil trading. And that I am doing this simply at the comfort of my own home. Imagine it! At first, just like all the rest, I was skeptic about this. And it took me a lot of convincing for me to finally go to this thing. Now I understand that the price of Oil is actually controlled by a computer, and with the ability to predict which direction Oil is going, whether up or down, it gives me a high degree of success in trading! This may sound unbelievable. But take it from me, it really does work! But this isnt too easy as it may sound, skill and technique in oil trading should also be accompanied with hard work. For those people who didn't have the success that I got, recheck what could have been wrong. Or better yet, consult David again rather than accusing him of being a scam.
We are just lucky that this guy who has discovered the Secret in the Oil market, is kind enough to share it with us Attend their free Trading Demo so you can see for yourself what I am talking about.

#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company
About Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 01, 2011
It would be one thing if anything you said were true, but since it isn't I'm now going to expose each one of your lies:
"Given this, I would suggest googling anything you can find on David Kuvelas and you will find he has been touting everything from BlackJack strategies to Auto Auction information, to Forex Trading, to general on-line marketing ideas, to now oil trading. Maybe there is more."
Yes I have a blackjack website, it's called Blackjack Secret Code, and I once had 50 websites doing affiliate marketing, and even sold a course on it, the course was 12 hours long. And yes I still have a forex website it's called Forex Daily Signals, where I now warn people about the nature of the Forex market, which I know you hate because you're from Forex Factory, this is why you are attacking me here because I'm the one who exposes Forex Factory and the Forex market for the scam that it is. But I fail to see your point about my multiple websites? Do you have some sort of problem with somebody like myself for having multiple websites? And then you say they are failures? If that's what you think then obviously it's you who is the failure, not me, because you don't seem to do any research, you just make up wild accusations hoping that people are going to believe you.
"When someone interjects a rationale argument, and you see this all over the internet, he launches personal attacks on them calling then names and in some cases, even physically threatening harm to them. On one marketing site where David is getting particularly vicious, an attorney had to step in and offer a stern warning threatening him with a lawsuit
if the attacks didn't stop. This is the same person (David) who is constantly touting himself to have some sort of superior intellect, be a devout Christian, a scientist, a philosopher, and all of the other compliments he pays himself, yet he acts like an 8 year old child and this is on several sites where he starts the conversation!"
A rationale argument? Oh you mean lying through your teeth? Is that what you call a rational argument? And when somebody lies through their teeth, and the other person being lied about get's angry, then it's ok for the liar to continue to attack by trying to show the person as being crazy? Listen buddy, if you want to have an intellectual conversation here I'm all for it, but I don't think you would stand much of a chance with that, all you know how to do is lie through your teeth, and guess what, I have the proof, everywhere on my website is proof, my demonstration videos, my FREE demonstration room, people will come into that room and see that you are an obvious liar, and right now without you even realizing it you are making a fool out of yourself, because when the demonstration starts and I show 90% accuracy, what will you say then? You will say the only thing you can say, you will lie through your teeth again.
"If someone has a good product, typically far more people support it then argue its validity. That is just common sense. If most people denounce it, it is likely for a reason."
Well actually that's not true at all, when people learn of the secret code they don't want to share it with anyone, because it has too much value....
"Again, just do your due diligence. This guy has started many companies on the web, obviously all failures, and I am sure this is yet another one but the guy is desperate to make a living to pay that rent or whatever so he has to do what he has to do I would imagine."
Obviously all failures? Tell me, which type of logic are you using? On what do you base this hypothesis on? Do you have any evidence for this statement in anyway? Can you explain the logic and reasoning you're using to come to such a conclusion? Desperate to make a living? Have you seen my Blackjack Secret Code video? Do you see that room the video is recorded in? That is a 4,000 square foot home with 20 foot ceilings, that room is the top room of the house overlooking all of Las Vegas Strip, tell me, if I were struggling to make a living as you suggest, how do you suppose I can afford to live in such a home as this? Do you see now how easily I can make you look stupid? Believe me, it's like child's play, like romper room, like kindergarten class.
"If you can afford to take the risk, by all means do so if you are comfortable. It is merely a suggestion to do your due diligence and verify what I am saying here for yourself as by him putting his information out there everywhere, he is essentially inviting you to look for yourself. If you like what you observe, by all means, join him. If not, then don't. Fair enough?? Good luck to you all."
Where is the scam? Why should people not want to learn of the Secret Code so they too can achieve a 90% accuracy with some practice? A brand new guy the other day had a solid 70% accuracy his first day trading, where is the scam? Where is your assertion that the Secret Code doesn't work? You don't really have any do you? In fact, it's very easy for me to tell that you haven't even bought my videos and don't even know the nature of the Secret Code, all you are is somebody who is trying their best to bear false witness and make wild accusations hoping that other people are going to listen to you. This is why I now offer FREE demonstrations of the Secret Code, so that people like you won't be able to get away with your lies.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#13 Consumer Comment
Due Diligence - Something everyone should do
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 01, 2011
I think most would agree that whenever considering paying for something on-line touted to be something that sounds too good to be true, the least one should do, is do what they can to do due diligence on the matter.
Given this, I would suggest googling anything you can find on David Kuvelas and you will find he has been touting everything from BlackJack strategies to Auto Auction information, to Forex Trading, to general on-line marketing ideas, to now oil trading. Maybe there is more.
You will see he tries to start threads in all kinds of areas of the web regarding his oiltradingacademy that are investor sites, to trading sites, to money making sites, etc and then you will find brand new members to those sites supporting what he is touting. You will not find any older members ever supporting him. That is a common marketing tactic to get a conversation going. Start the conversation and then answer the original post as if you were someone else etc...
When someone interjects a rationale argument, and you see this all over the internet, he launches personal attacks on them calling then names and in some cases, even physically threatening harm to them. On one marketing site where David is getting particularly vicious, an attorney had to step in and offer a stern warning threatening him with a lawsuit if the attacks didn't stop. This is the same person (David) who is constantly touting himself to have some sort of superior intellect, be a devout Christian, a scientist, a philosopher, and all of the other compliments he pays himself, yet he acts like an 8 year old child and this is on several sites where he starts the conversation!
If someone has a good product, typically far more people support it then argue its validity. That is just common sense. If most people denounce it, it is likely for a reason.
Again, just do your due diligence. This guy has started many companies on the web, obviously all failures, and I am sure this is yet another one but the guy is desperate to make a living to pay that rent or whatever so he has to do what he has to do I would imagine.
If you can afford to take the risk, by all means do so if you are comfortable. It is merely a suggestion to do your due diligence and verify what I am saying here for yourself as by him putting his information out there everywhere, he is essentially inviting you to look for yourself. If you like what you observe, by all means, join him. If not, then don't. Fair enough?? Good luck to you all.

#12 Consumer Comment
I'm on David's side.
AUTHOR: LAnce - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 31, 2011
The problem with this society is that everybody wants to get rich instantly. I am a trader and have been trading for more than a year now using the secret code. I am not just David's customer but his student as well. I am one of the lucky few who have been given the chance to attend David's live online trading class. I listened,learned, practiced and have been earning really well with his help using the codes.
David is not a SCAMMER and i will stand up for that. All he is trying to do is to expose what he has discovered, hoping to wake people up.His website offers a free live demonstration of the code for people to see and witness how the secret code works. And now people are calling him a scam. Is that how scammers do things? Guess not.
The only reason why these people are complaining is because they don't have the brain or maybe they have, but their brains are definitely not working, not capable of understanding and grasping what and how the code works. Too bad.
For me i will always be thankful because he has given me a way out of this declining economy. I am now earning so well and living a lavished, abundant life that i have always wanted.

#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company
About Jeff
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 31, 2011
Just so everyone can know the truth, what Jeff is saying has no truth to it whatsoever. For instance he say's that I could at least put some winning videos up. I guess this is suppose to be a joke or something because in my videos the winning trades are almost 100%, there are only one or two losing trades. Same with my demonstration videos, which show 90% accuracy trading. Furthermore, in my online FREE demonstrations I also have an 80% to 90% success ratio on each and every demonstration I've done.
Clearly these people just want to lie about me, and as I keep saying over and over again and will continue to do so, people in this world are total 100% scum bags, and they would have the nerve to call me the scammer, when in reality it is I who am the truth teller, it is I who is the scientist, it is I who is the Philosopher, it is I who speaks the truth about all things and all matters, it is I who has the intellect and knowledge about this world on a quantum level about every subject there is known to man of importance.
And these guys want to call me crazy?
The only way in which I'm crazy is being dumb enough to try and help people in this world, most people are total scum and not worth helping in anyway shape or form, running this business has taught that to me all so very clearly....
Listen, I don't really care what you guys say about me, to me you guys are scum bags, or you are dumber than a box of rocks, either or. Which one is the truth I really don't care, it doesn't really matter, what does matter though is that I want nothing more to do with you, you are scum.....
So go ahead and say whatever bad things you want to say about me, I could care less, that's what you people do anyway, it's called "bearing false witness", have you ever heard of it before? Do you know what the Ten Commandments are? How much do you guys want to make a bet you don't even believe in God? Well guess what dumb dumbs, God does exist, I have been in God's presence and God spoke directly to me, I know more about this world and what's going on within it than you are capable of imagining let alone comprehending. I have been attacked many times in my life by demons, know anything about demons dumb dumbs?
My mother was attacked by demons for ten years for getting into witchcraft, know anything about that dumb dumbs?
No, you don't know anything about that, but what you do know is what this world has taught you, and you know how to ridicule and make fun of people, and tell them how they need to see a doctor, etc.
This is what you people do, because that is what you've been taught to do, without you even realizing everything you think in this life is a lie given to you straight from the enemy, straight from the Mason's themselves, and you don't have the brainpower to understand, you cannot even understand romper room information and understand the secret code, which is like baby information, but you've been so dumbed down all your life by the Mason's you cannot begin to imagine how dumb you are now, you don't use your brain, you don't know how to think anymore. All you do is watch the Neuro Science programming that is perverting your mind on a quantum level and you don't understand that, nor are you ever going to understand, because it isn't for you to understand, nor is the secret code for you to understand, it's only for those people who can.
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#10 Consumer Comment
David's ain't a scam!
AUTHOR: Scott - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2011
How can you say that David is a scam? Have you been to his trading room? Or you are just a moron who is trying to smear David. Well, let me tell you something about my experience with David's trading: I bought his Secret code and Macro code videos after I joined his free demonstration room. I was amazed how he conducts his trainings and how accurate
it is. You just dont know how lucky and thankful I am to know David. He is very professional to work with. Whenever I dont understand something about the videos, I simply contact him and he explains everything to me. I must admit that at first I struggled a bit. But anyway, why are you so jealous of David? I dont understand why you people are making negative feedback against him. We are in fact so lucky that he shared his knowledge to us and make benefits from it. Maybe you are just a fool who is trying to destroy his good reputation. Am I right? A**hole!

#9 Consumer Comment
He got me also..
AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2011
I admit, it was probably as much my fault for just "going for it" even after my time on phone with this guy which probably went on for an hour or so as he was certainly a little OUT THERE. I would tend to agree David probably as some sort of sociopathic tendencies where he genuinely believes his own BS.
Before I bought in, I tried to offer David 3 times what he was asking if he would just trade live with me for an hour so I could be sure to get what he was preaching and the excuse was something pretty lame as to why he couldn't do that but like a lot of his "clients" I suppose, $400 wasn't a great deal of money so if I got ONE GOOD tip it would be worth it. Well, I tend to agree with an earlier comment. Even while you watch his videos, it seems what he is trying to show doesn't work AT LEAST as often as it does which is strange why he would put together garbage like that thus essentially begging to get torn up on places like this about being ripped off. He could have at least just put winning videos together right?
I mean, he will basically tell you the market tends to change direction around about 6-7 different timeframes in any given hour so you need to look out for it when it does. I don't mean he says it will change 6-7 times, what I mean is he will tell you IT WILL change at any one of those 6-7 times during any given hour. That is his code basically. Basically it is a joke BUT I am not sure he doesn't believe he has something because I think that HE THINKS he does have something. Sadly, he doesn't and he makes up stories about anyone who calls him out on it including me.
I too called to get clarification and was bashed as well for basically being too stupid to get it. I won't get into detail as previous posters pretty much covered it. Something is wrong with him and a part of me feels sorry for the guy but I don't think that gives him the right to rip people off.
Thanks ripoffreport for having a venue for people to report folks like this

#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Travis The Con Artist
AUTHOR: Oil Trading Academy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 29, 2011
Since you want to come onto the Internet Travis and lie, I will come onto the Internet and tell the real truth.
Travis partner called me on the phone, he wanted me to trade his "Fund" for him, I met this person here in Las Vegas at the coffee shop inside the "District". This guy was very easy to tell how much of a con artist he was, I ended the meeting by telling him I wasn't interested in trading for him. Later that night he called me on the phone almost crying, because while he was betting the "Funds" money inside the Casino and doing great, he went to the bathroom and his "friend" took his $40,000 in chips at the table. He called me wanting to know what he should do. Well here is my advice, try to stop lying to people over and over again and stop getting massages and buying designer jeans and acting like a women and the victim, grow up and become a man. And using the "Funds" money to gamble with? Are you insane? Travis is the business partner who was once a "millionaire" but lost all his money making "bad decisions", and Travis was the guy who was now trading the "Fund" money. What these two characters don't understand is that I know a million times more than their little pea brains are capable of comprehending, and you cannot scam somebody with my level of intellect, these two guys are kids, they are now adults in anyway shape or form. I'm a 43 year old man, these guys are kids, con artists who go around on Craigslist and con people out of their money, by getting them to invest in some "Fund", where they gamble that money away and blame other people for stealing the money and they buy courses like mine in a desperate attempt to make money with their "Fund" before the money runs out, which I'm sure by now it has.
And the funny part is these two characters thought I would go along with their scam, and got pissed off when I didn't.
What I should have done was called the authorities on these two characters because they are first class con artists, and to any law enforcement that may be listening, I am ready to give a statement as to what I know and what these two con artists told me what they are doing, especially with respect to gambling the money away.
And to think these guys would have the nerve to call me the scam....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#7 Consumer Comment
David is NOT A SCAMMER!
AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 28, 2011
I cant understand why you people gave a negative feedback to David like his a great scammer and insecure guy,
etc. I bought his oil trading video a year ago and my experienced was different of yours. I knew David as representative of his product we do communicate for business transactions. Since I bought the video from him I had lots of question
how to use the code and its function and sincerely he replied all my concerns. I almost gave up because of my small knowledge of trading and I earned less from what I expected but that time David was my friend and he really guided me and step by step he instructed me. And because of my determination to earn I was able to earn more through constant practice.
I was amazed when he introduced to me the blackjack strategy and I realized he is a great genius. I told my
uncle about blackjack who used to play in casino and my uncle grabbed one of the videos and it was worked well. I didnt hear any bad complaint from my uncle by then, but he just gave a big THANK YOU to me and especially to David.
Truly, David is a good guy and his concern to everybody. Tell me, who are the hackers that discovered something then shared it to others for its advantage? Answer? theres none, only David did. So, why you people got mad and angry for him to think you have its beneficial part? I think you just had a miscommunication to him and because you need to prosper that fast but you failed and then what you did was gave bad information of him. I dont blame you because that was your experience. In trading and as a trader there are always pros and cons but in this situation especially you have the ace how to win it or earned more, it should be have patience, determination and more practice you would able to reach what you want. Strike it every day little by little you are already on the top without noticing it.
For me, my relationship to David is doing well and my trading habit is working better every day. And I believe that I am not alone in this world being blessed of what David brought to me and I think I should not read your complaints against
him and just shut up. David is a great guy, if he was selfish enough he wouldnt shared what he discovered and you wouldnt encountered him. He just wants to help us. He just wants to overcome our finances dilemmas. Thanking him
is not enough.

#6 Consumer Comment
My experience is David is certainly a scammer
AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 17, 2011
I bought his videos about 2 years ago after spending some time on the phone with him whereby he was certainly "out there" to say the least, but I felt like $400 was not a lot to spend if I got SOMETHING out of what he was selling. Basically he has some very unprofessional videos where he makes calls of various sorts of which a great deal lose and then he will offer reasons why one would not have taken those trades etc. Essentially his whole idea is the market changes direction at certain times etc (not exactly a new concept) because computers control everything etc. It is my opinion he is a very lonely and insecure guy sitting in his one bedroom condo desperately looking for a way to survive not getting a real job. He has hocked everything from BlackJack strategies (where he claims he has a code for that also! LOL) to Forex, where he claims it is ABSOLUTELY impossible to make money because computers specfically come and get your stops NO MATTER where they are etc... LOL. He has tried doing trading rooms and then shut them all down in a short time presumably since he sucks so now he has resorted to having a website with fake testimonials and prepared videos showing his best trades and coming up with interesting marketing strategies by making folks believe he has cracked some CODE of which we all know if he had he wouldn't be hocking his crap for $400... I know it is all laughable but you have to laugh right? The thing that sold me is that he promised if I needed more help understand his "code" he would help me live in the market so I could get it because I really didn't understand it and when I asked, he simply told me I must be stupid for not getting it and a child could get it and and all the information was right there for me and I was just trying to malign him etc. Mind you... All I did was ask him to do what he said he would do and he launched at me like a rabid dog all the while discussing how morally, intellectually, philosophically, physically, etc he was drastically superior to me and I couldn't even begin to phathom who I was dealing with. I mean.. This guy was set off on NOTHING but me asking him to do what he said he would do and spend 90 minutes live in the market and help me understand his "code" because all I could derive from the videos is that it works when it works and it doesn't when it doesn't and that is about it! I could sell the same thing with a magical flipping coin I found in an ancient land and prepare videos and show it working etc and sell my magical coin flip secret and people would probably buy it if I made it intriguing enough, which is what he does...
About 6 months ago, I saw he was doing a webinar for sponsored by his broker I guess in the hopes of generating business for him and the broker. He promised to do LIVE trade calls based on his "code". I wanted to see it for myself so I tuned in. He called the first one for about 20 cents and the next 3 or 4 were losers where he stuttered and stammered excuses on those. Overall, trading 1 contract, you probably would have lost 25 cents in the session etc.
David is a joke and thank goodness for websites like this and ForexPeaceArmy as well has ForexFactory where you will find information about David and dozens of people tearing him up, and deservedly so. He brings it upon himself. I actually REALLY wanted to like the guy but when he blatantly didn't acknowledge his promise to me and in fact turned on me completely, I saw him for what he really was and that is a tiny man with some very serious issues and while I am not a psychiatrist, I would have to think he would be considered a sociopath. That is my experience.

#5 Consumer Comment
I'll second that
AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 18, 2011
I'll second the challenge David made to the loser calling himself biffco.
As one who has also been slandered by scum like biffco who always stay anonymous and simply put out cowardly and incomplete statements only for the purpose of putting doubt in people's minds, I will second the challenge made by David.
I challenge you to reveal your cowardly self. We know this will never happen, because you live in the dark shadows and not even your wife knows you. You have secrets and and incompetent opinions just like the one you anonymously express about David. You know nothing and you do nothing. I have no doubt you work in a dingy cubicle or other horrible place and hate life.
I have no doubt that you are impotent and spend most of your time in a jack booth or in porn sites secretly and anonymously fantasizing about things you don't have the balls to go after.
David and I are different. We have opinions based on reality and study. We make things happen and we offer products to people to make their lives better. We offer solutions and we don't hide from the world like miserable scum like you biffco.
I am free, and David is free because we produce value for ourselves, and others. You are puke and produce nothing for yourself nor anyone else and because of this your life is pathetic and you, even though probably in denial about it, secretly know it, and it is that knowledge that prevents you from being a real man, from being able to argue with an intellect like Davids in the open, from being able to satisfy a woman, and from being unafraid of life.
Stay in the dark, that's where you belong. Or reveal yourself, David is not hiding from you, because he knows there is no escaping you. Scum like you will always be there spewing all your garbage anonymously as you have done here against David.

#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You Have A Lot Of Nerve, and Even More Stupidity
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 18, 2011
First you bear false witness against me, then you threaten me and say "what's about to happen to you, and now it's too late", ROTFLOL. Listen, I know you don't have the brainpower to understand this, but you don't have the brainpower to do anything to me whatsoever, I could tell you where I live, my phone number, or anything else, and like a sissy you aren't going to do anything whatsoever, except of course continue to bear false witness against me. You make me laugh, you call me a scum when in reality it is you who is the scum, plain and simple. And furthermore dumb dumb, I have a bare minimum of a THOUSAND times your intellect, let alone moral character, and I know more about this life than you are capable of imagining let alone comprehending. Not only am I superior to you intellectually, but I'm also superior to you in every other way as well, physically and morally for instance.
Your problem is you are jealous of me, and you are a punk, plain and simple, and I'm challenging you here in a public place on the Internet do to anything to me whatsoever punk, and I laugh in your face for thinking you have the brainpower to do anything to me whatsoever.....
Sincerely,
David
Oil Trading Academy

#3 Consumer Comment
David Kuvelas
AUTHOR: biffco - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 16, 2011
Well, David. How about you explain your multiple felony fraud and forgery convictions in Florida? Or the liens against your property filed just last year by creditors? What about all the stuff in Southern California?
You leave quite the slimy trail, my friend. But now you've spammed the wrong person -- one who knows how to put you where you belong, with some of your fellow conscience-free scumbuckets. You're human garbage - your whole life is devoted to running sleazy, lowlife scams, and you don't even do THAT well. If you had just gotten a real job years ago and stopped trying to screw people over, none of what is about to happen to you would have happened. Too late now, though.

#2 Consumer Comment
I'm a customer of Davids
AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 09, 2011
I bought David's videos and also did a weeks worth of advanced training with David.
I've also been smeared on this web site, so when I saw that David had been
by a person who "smelled a rat" whatever that means, I had to speak up in his defense.
I spent money with David, around $750.00 so I know what he delivers, unlike this loser who
"smells a rat".
Based on my objective experience with David, I think he is somewhat eccentric in his beliefs
and in the manner in which he conducts his trainings. But, I also believe that he delivers a
valuable product on the subject of oil trading. I got a lot out of it.
Only cowards go online and make unfounded statements that hurt innocent people trying to
enlighten others and make a living.
I smell a rat too, and it's the guy who took the time to smear David with the most ridiculous
post I've ever read. Ask yourself why a person would do such a thing. My guess is he has
a competing product or service and this is his cheap way of crushing the competition.
Think about it, would an ordinary person with other important things to do single out David
and make this pathetic remark about his product knowing absolutely nothing about it?
My name is Scott, and I approved this message

#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
I Guess Anybody Can Lie Anytime They Want To
AUTHOR: David - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 28, 2010
Tell me something, when you say you "smell a rat", on what logical basis do you base this on? Have you come into my "Trading Room" and watched me trade? Are you saying the members that are in there now paying me $100 per month are idiots? Are you saying that my "one bedroom apartment", which is actually a luxury 1 bedroom condo that costs 180,000, which is located in the absolute nicest most desirable area of all of Las Vegas isn't a place of a successful trader?
Tell me, did you do any research whatsoever before making such bogus claims? Or do you just smell a rat?
Maybe your noes either isn't working very well or maybe you are just irresponsible or maybe it's you who is the rat?
It's a truly sad world we live in when people like you can say the things you've said about me without one shred of evidence, except for some illogical baseless accusations which are not only not true, but are ridiculous in nature in the first place. I live across the street from the District, the most expensive shopping mall in Nevada, and live in Green Valley, the most desirable area in all of Las Vegas, next to the golf country club.
But hey, trust me, I don't care what you say or think, this world was a messed up place without you and it's not going to change with your bogus accusations.
And by the way, just so you know for future reference, when you see a scam website, know that the owner will pay the extra $10 to keep their information private, so that when the people who were scammed don't come over their house and shoot them in the head, know what I mean?
Take care and God Bless,
David


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