Complaint Review: David Werner International Corporation - Newyork New York
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- David Werner International Corporation 420 Lexington Avenue Suite 2811 Newyork, New York U.S.A.
- Phone: 212-682-8888
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- Category: Employment Services
David Werner International Corporation, David Werner International Corporation New york New York
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: David Werner's Rebuttal
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: David Werner's Rebuttal
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: David Werner's Rebuttal
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: David Werner's Rebuttal
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The previous report writers are all correct and each did a great job of exposing a portion of this sophisticated scam. Here is a more complete description.
The Set-Up
David Werner International Corp is managed and controlled by David Werner. At the time when I met them he had a sidekick by the name of Ted Weiner. They operate from an old and mediocre building next to Grand Central in New York. It looks like they have been there for a very long time however it has the feel of a modest startup. David Werner is a master of creating perceptions and is quite careful to create an appearance of being very busy and quite inaccessible. As far as I know they never initiate contact with potential sting target. They bate and wait for the potential victim to call them.
The Bate
David Werner International places ads in print media, newspapers. They also use their website, www.dwic.com to communicate their message. I was one of many who came across their website and decided to call in order to get more information about their services. When I called I was directed to an individual named Ted Weiner who described himself as in charge of marketing. His first set of questions were designed to find out what my background was, my previous and current employment status and what my income is and has been for the past few years. He immediately informed me that David Werner is very busy however he, Ted, will do his best to promptly schedule my meeting with David which is required before David Werner International Corp would consider me a potential client. And that, as a prerequisite to my meeting David Werner I must forward my current and complete resume for his review.
The Shake
After several attempts to find a window in David's busy schedule, we settled for a date and time. When I arrived I was greeted by Ted and I was asked to wait for few minutes until David was ready. After 15 20 minutes David made an appearance from his office and invited me in. We exchange pleasantries and than David proceeded to ask me questions about my background, education, work experience and finally my salary levels over the past few years. I did not realize then, but I know now that, what he was doing was The Shake. He was trying to figure out what am I good for. How much cash can he get upfront because any payment tied to my getting a new job was very unlikely and therefore can't be considered as secured revenue for DWIC. He also spend time asking me and learning about my industry and my professional expertise.
From his questions I realized that he had absolutely no knowledge about my industry, the level of management I was trained to perform and the companies I worked for. I did not realize then but I know now that, he was learning the basics of what he will latter use to simulate expertise in my field. At the time their website was not as large as it is today. Now I realized that his field of expertise, which is described on the website under Bios, is very narrow. Basically if your job is not in wool, cotton, gold mining or steel manufacturing, he has no understanding about what you do. He certainly had absolutely no knowledge about my industry.
He proceeded to lecture me about perceptions and how to create a specific perception in the mind of a potential employer, very much like what DWIC has on their website today entitled Tips. I sat there and listen about many success stories of his past clients. Along the way he also talked about the David Werner Letter in his words the most successful and effective engaging tool at his and my deposal.
The Werner Letter is a simple letter that DWIC creates and sends to distribution lists in his words so well written and so effective that it almost guarantees to open doors and often entice CEOs and Presidents of major corporations to meat with their client. In his words it so effectively exposes your talents that inevitably they will create a new position to bring your talent into their company. What a load of ..
The Switch
At the end of our meeting David stated that although he is very busy, because of my expertise and potential he, David, will accept me as a client and make time to fit my case into his busy schedule. They will prepare an agreement, and this is the important part, which is a simple agreement which his attorney forces them to have their clients sign but which, because of its simplicity, does not describe all the services DWIC will provide and certainly which can't possible describe the success that we will achieve by working together.
In other words, the agreement is just a formality and not at all a complete representation of what they will provide, what I should expect and what the most likely outcome will be. This is the switch Don't be concerned about what is on paper instead, trust my words!. His parting words were I am now going to start working on your strategy!. As I was leaving, Ted told me that they will prepare an agreement, which I will have to sign, and which I will have to bring back with me with a check to my next meeting with David when he is going to review and update my resume and discuss the marketing strategy.
A week or so latter we met again in the DWIC office. He proceeded to make minor changes to my resume, correct some of the writing which is something that any English major could do and than we discussed the David Werner Letter and the mailing lists which DWIC will purchase and which will be used to produce a hard cover mailing, an emailing blast and specific mailing to CEOs.
The Sting
I handed them, what I consider to be, a very large check. A week or so latter after the first mailing was complete, a second check of an equal amount, as per the written agreement, was mailed to DWIC. The scam was complete. They got the money. Unlike others they did not disappear overnight, they stay where they are because they are protected by the agreement.
And then - absolute silence! Many weeks would go by without any contact from DWIC. I started to get hundreds of rejected emails and from the post office, bags of returned envelopes with undeliverable address. Months went by with continuing silence. Occasionally, I would send them an email and wait for few days or longer to get a response. At the end they got my money and I have absolutely nothing to show for it - I got . and I didn't even enjoy it!
Don't let this happen to you be smarter than me! And if you are a victim have the courage to create a Rip-Off report. DWIC is the only beneficiary from your silence and it will allow them to keep doing this to others for as long as what they do remains untold.
F.f
newyork, New York
U.S.A.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company
David Werner's Rebuttal
AUTHOR: David Werner - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 10, 2008
David Werner International has reviewed the allegations posted by this individual because we take each and every one of them seriously. For every posting, we search our records to discover who the individual is and respond on a case-by-case basis. Like most of the postings about our company on this website, it should come as no surprise that this complaint by an alleged client is fictitious. David Werner International has no client with these initials. However, we would direct your attention to a recent update to a posting dated July 7, 2008 which now states the following:
On July 7, 2008, I submitted a posting under the name agray, redding connecticut that included certain statements which were of a negative nature concerning David Werner International Corporation and David Werner. It was never my intention to defame David Werner International Corporation or David Werner. Therefore, I have voluntarily decided to withdraw the previous posting. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com will not do so based on its policy of only allowing retractions, rather than withdrawals, of previous postings. Therefore, without admitting liability and with full knowledge that I am entitled to defend myself and the statements I made previously, I am formally retracting the entire statement. I have not been paid for this retraction and make this statement of my own free will and accord.
I hereby state that David Werner or David Werner International Company is not to blame for my employment situation and I further state that David Werner International is not, as I previously posted, a slick con artist organization and/or swindles people out of their money.
I will also note that I was specifically informed in writing and orally that various factors affect the marketability of a specific candidate, including the economy and the personal chemistry between the candidate and the employer. David Werner International carried out its duties as described in the agreement between Gray and DWIC competently and with diligence. It performed the research to target certain venture capital and private equity firms and then drafted correspondence to these firms on my behalf. Accordingly, David Werner International did everything it was obligated to do under the above agreement to market me to prospective employers.
Therefore, I retract the statements in the posting dated July 7, 2008. I also apologize to David Werner and David Werner International for posting these statements and the resulting consequences of my actions.
Alexander Gray
Redding, Connecticut
Suffice it to say, David Werner International intends to avail itself of all legal remedies and will pursue the individuals who seek to slander our company with false and untrue allegations.
#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company
David Werner's Rebuttal
AUTHOR: David Werner - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 10, 2008
David Werner International has reviewed the allegations posted by this individual because we take each and every one of them seriously. For every posting, we search our records to discover who the individual is and respond on a case-by-case basis. Like most of the postings about our company on this website, it should come as no surprise that this complaint by an alleged client is fictitious. David Werner International has no client with these initials. However, we would direct your attention to a recent update to a posting dated July 7, 2008 which now states the following:
On July 7, 2008, I submitted a posting under the name agray, redding connecticut that included certain statements which were of a negative nature concerning David Werner International Corporation and David Werner. It was never my intention to defame David Werner International Corporation or David Werner. Therefore, I have voluntarily decided to withdraw the previous posting. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com will not do so based on its policy of only allowing retractions, rather than withdrawals, of previous postings. Therefore, without admitting liability and with full knowledge that I am entitled to defend myself and the statements I made previously, I am formally retracting the entire statement. I have not been paid for this retraction and make this statement of my own free will and accord.
I hereby state that David Werner or David Werner International Company is not to blame for my employment situation and I further state that David Werner International is not, as I previously posted, a slick con artist organization and/or swindles people out of their money.
I will also note that I was specifically informed in writing and orally that various factors affect the marketability of a specific candidate, including the economy and the personal chemistry between the candidate and the employer. David Werner International carried out its duties as described in the agreement between Gray and DWIC competently and with diligence. It performed the research to target certain venture capital and private equity firms and then drafted correspondence to these firms on my behalf. Accordingly, David Werner International did everything it was obligated to do under the above agreement to market me to prospective employers.
Therefore, I retract the statements in the posting dated July 7, 2008. I also apologize to David Werner and David Werner International for posting these statements and the resulting consequences of my actions.
Alexander Gray
Redding, Connecticut
Suffice it to say, David Werner International intends to avail itself of all legal remedies and will pursue the individuals who seek to slander our company with false and untrue allegations.
#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company
David Werner's Rebuttal
AUTHOR: David Werner - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 10, 2008
David Werner International has reviewed the allegations posted by this individual because we take each and every one of them seriously. For every posting, we search our records to discover who the individual is and respond on a case-by-case basis. Like most of the postings about our company on this website, it should come as no surprise that this complaint by an alleged client is fictitious. David Werner International has no client with these initials. However, we would direct your attention to a recent update to a posting dated July 7, 2008 which now states the following:
On July 7, 2008, I submitted a posting under the name agray, redding connecticut that included certain statements which were of a negative nature concerning David Werner International Corporation and David Werner. It was never my intention to defame David Werner International Corporation or David Werner. Therefore, I have voluntarily decided to withdraw the previous posting. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com will not do so based on its policy of only allowing retractions, rather than withdrawals, of previous postings. Therefore, without admitting liability and with full knowledge that I am entitled to defend myself and the statements I made previously, I am formally retracting the entire statement. I have not been paid for this retraction and make this statement of my own free will and accord.
I hereby state that David Werner or David Werner International Company is not to blame for my employment situation and I further state that David Werner International is not, as I previously posted, a slick con artist organization and/or swindles people out of their money.
I will also note that I was specifically informed in writing and orally that various factors affect the marketability of a specific candidate, including the economy and the personal chemistry between the candidate and the employer. David Werner International carried out its duties as described in the agreement between Gray and DWIC competently and with diligence. It performed the research to target certain venture capital and private equity firms and then drafted correspondence to these firms on my behalf. Accordingly, David Werner International did everything it was obligated to do under the above agreement to market me to prospective employers.
Therefore, I retract the statements in the posting dated July 7, 2008. I also apologize to David Werner and David Werner International for posting these statements and the resulting consequences of my actions.
Alexander Gray
Redding, Connecticut
Suffice it to say, David Werner International intends to avail itself of all legal remedies and will pursue the individuals who seek to slander our company with false and untrue allegations.
#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
David Werner's Rebuttal
AUTHOR: David Werner - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 10, 2008
David Werner International has reviewed the allegations posted by this individual because we take each and every one of them seriously. For every posting, we search our records to discover who the individual is and respond on a case-by-case basis. Like most of the postings about our company on this website, it should come as no surprise that this complaint by an alleged client is fictitious. David Werner International has no client with these initials. However, we would direct your attention to a recent update to a posting dated July 7, 2008 which now states the following:
On July 7, 2008, I submitted a posting under the name agray, redding connecticut that included certain statements which were of a negative nature concerning David Werner International Corporation and David Werner. It was never my intention to defame David Werner International Corporation or David Werner. Therefore, I have voluntarily decided to withdraw the previous posting. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com will not do so based on its policy of only allowing retractions, rather than withdrawals, of previous postings. Therefore, without admitting liability and with full knowledge that I am entitled to defend myself and the statements I made previously, I am formally retracting the entire statement. I have not been paid for this retraction and make this statement of my own free will and accord.
I hereby state that David Werner or David Werner International Company is not to blame for my employment situation and I further state that David Werner International is not, as I previously posted, a slick con artist organization and/or swindles people out of their money.
I will also note that I was specifically informed in writing and orally that various factors affect the marketability of a specific candidate, including the economy and the personal chemistry between the candidate and the employer. David Werner International carried out its duties as described in the agreement between Gray and DWIC competently and with diligence. It performed the research to target certain venture capital and private equity firms and then drafted correspondence to these firms on my behalf. Accordingly, David Werner International did everything it was obligated to do under the above agreement to market me to prospective employers.
Therefore, I retract the statements in the posting dated July 7, 2008. I also apologize to David Werner and David Werner International for posting these statements and the resulting consequences of my actions.
Alexander Gray
Redding, Connecticut
Suffice it to say, David Werner International intends to avail itself of all legal remedies and will pursue the individuals who seek to slander our company with false and untrue allegations.
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