Quixtar Team Network 21 Ripoff! Better beware before you sign all your money away! Edmonton Alberta

having been both a amway user & seller, its still a scam.

the products they sold in the past were substandard quality and in fact cost more than retail.

the reality is you can do better than amway in terms of product obtaining and can still be a independent seller.

My own cousin sells all sorts of product that he obtains from garage sales/estate sales and that includes amway stuff..

He ends up buying product for 1/100 of the original cost and can still sell much of it at retail or even discounted price and still do well.

And he sells overall about 1000 times more than amway top sellers and does so without any recruiting. (except me, in that Im working to build my own sideline in similar way, except that I deal soley in antiques, pictures, rare items).

Sly,

It's sad when so many people blame Quixtar for having a bad experience with starting their business. You wouldn't blame the NFL if one player or team did drugs would you? If you would, you have other issues. My point is, I've rarely if ever heard anyone have an honest complaint about Quixtar or their products. Every starts out blaming Quixtar for their bad experience, but after reading their story, it always comes back to their sponsors / upline / team they join up under. There are alot of bad teams out there giving "Quixtar" a bad rep, and it's not fair to the rest of us. I signed up under LTD as well a while back, I listened to everything, and did everything, and got into alot of debt too. Instead of quitting and calling Quixtar a bad company I just decided that I've spent enough, and I wasn't going to waste more money if I'm not getting results. I stopped going to all the meetings, ect. But I still loved the products, so I bought what I needed every month, 100 points or not.. I just bought what I needed. My upline stopped calling, I didn't care and I didn't feel bad about it. But I can understand if it was someone you knew from your past. And I've heard so many stories about sponsors helping you in the beginning, but if you didn't do everything right they just shun you. Last time I checked IBO stood for "INDEPENDANT BUSINESS OWNER". Now granted not everyone can know how to run a business on their own right from the start. I spent 5 years reading leadership / self help books. (on my own, not because of my upline). And now I work from home full time, and am having much more success with my Quixtar based business. I'm not wasting money with meetings, CD's ect. And when I get people started and work with them, I've learned from the mistakes of all these other 'bad teams' out there, and I help out my people without expecting them to buy into all of that stuff. People are out there by the thousands looking for ways to make money without having to go into debt, and I'd love to help them, without causing them to buy into all the "extras" that are "needed" to build a business. Well I'm about done for now, I hope you read this and I don't know if I can leave my personal info on here but feel free to call or write me, I'd more than willing to talk and answer any questions. I'm not here to convince you to get signed up with me either. Just hope this helps or at least helps anyone else out there that's looking to get started with any business. Not only should you do research into the company you're looking at getting involved in, but look into the team (upline) as well. Even if it's your best friend from grade school. I just hate to see all these people get a bad taste in their mouth about making money with a business opportunity just because of a bad sponsor / team. There are so many great / legit companies out there to get involved with, but at the same time there are alot of bad teams promoting those companies too.

Thanks for listening,
Jason

I noticed as I was reading about (what I already knew) Quixtar that someone was wondering if the company would come to North America. As a matter of fact, the company has been in north america for a number of years, recruiting people face-to-face. The people who are part of the company find others to get under their ladder, to get under those people, and so forth.

When I was told about this by a customer I met at a job I was explained there were no advertisements made by Quixtar, that the company, as some advocate, is supposed to be made in such marvelous fashion that no advertisement is needed, as word of mouth is enough: next thing I know John Tesh, or someone that sounds VERY MUCH like him announces that he has been part of it for years and to join him in Quixtar, Amway in the US -- this all on TV.

The advertisement has been running at least in this one channel for about a month, I would say. So brace yourselves!

Hi there,

I am currently involved with network 21 and Amway in south africa, please do understand that all these above comments are made by someone who has obviously got information mixed up or did not understand it fully along his research process.

The guys that have been doing this business for a no. of years, know and understand what needs to be done in order to make it a success, the CD's books and seminars are there to help you and are SUGGESTED tools, yes it is continuous and yes... what company does suggest continuous payable education, but please tell me what company offers financial freedom over a period of 3 years, what you need to understand is, at times this business can be extremely demotivating because of people, like the ones that have expressed their opinion above, really bring people down when they are approached, this tends to be extremely disheartening and the CD's etc are there to bring you back after the low blows that are recieved by ignorant people that are 'EXPERTS"! The educational method is of course different to conventional businesses but so is the outcome. Robert Kiosaki is a very well know businessman as well as the most read financial auther on the planet... he endorses the Network 21 system as the best source of annuity style income that he has ever seen... and trust me, you can't but this mans opinion.

Please just understand one more thing, the 'big shots' don't earn money from your spend, the put together a data base of consumers rerouting there common monthly expenses to an amount of around $12 -$15000 per month and only then do they receive a small percent commission.

So please if you have seen this and have any level of interest...research it through the professionals such as Robert Kiosaki, and go out and get your own understanding of how this business works fully before expressing any opinion about N21!

Thanks,
Mark

Hi there,

I am currently involved with network 21 and Amway in south africa, please do understand that all these above comments are made by someone who has obviously got information mixed up or did not understand it fully along his research process.

The guys that have been doing this business for a no. of years, know and understand what needs to be done in order to make it a success, the CD's books and seminars are there to help you and are SUGGESTED tools, yes it is continuous and yes... what company does suggest continuous payable education, but please tell me what company offers financial freedom over a period of 3 years, what you need to understand is, at times this business can be extremely demotivating because of people, like the ones that have expressed their opinion above, really bring people down when they are approached, this tends to be extremely disheartening and the CD's etc are there to bring you back after the low blows that are recieved by ignorant people that are 'EXPERTS"! The educational method is of course different to conventional businesses but so is the outcome. Robert Kiosaki is a very well know businessman as well as the most read financial auther on the planet... he endorses the Network 21 system as the best source of annuity style income that he has ever seen... and trust me, you can't but this mans opinion.

Please just understand one more thing, the 'big shots' don't earn money from your spend, the put together a data base of consumers rerouting there common monthly expenses to an amount of around $12 -$15000 per month and only then do they receive a small percent commission.

So please if you have seen this and have any level of interest...research it through the professionals such as Robert Kiosaki, and go out and get your own understanding of how this business works fully before expressing any opinion about N21!

Thanks,
Mark

Hi there,

I am currently involved with network 21 and Amway in south africa, please do understand that all these above comments are made by someone who has obviously got information mixed up or did not understand it fully along his research process.

The guys that have been doing this business for a no. of years, know and understand what needs to be done in order to make it a success, the CD's books and seminars are there to help you and are SUGGESTED tools, yes it is continuous and yes... what company does suggest continuous payable education, but please tell me what company offers financial freedom over a period of 3 years, what you need to understand is, at times this business can be extremely demotivating because of people, like the ones that have expressed their opinion above, really bring people down when they are approached, this tends to be extremely disheartening and the CD's etc are there to bring you back after the low blows that are recieved by ignorant people that are 'EXPERTS"! The educational method is of course different to conventional businesses but so is the outcome. Robert Kiosaki is a very well know businessman as well as the most read financial auther on the planet... he endorses the Network 21 system as the best source of annuity style income that he has ever seen... and trust me, you can't but this mans opinion.

Please just understand one more thing, the 'big shots' don't earn money from your spend, the put together a data base of consumers rerouting there common monthly expenses to an amount of around $12 -$15000 per month and only then do they receive a small percent commission.

So please if you have seen this and have any level of interest...research it through the professionals such as Robert Kiosaki, and go out and get your own understanding of how this business works fully before expressing any opinion about N21!

Thanks,
Mark

They'll tell you it's all optional and not required before you join, but then after a little while in the business you'll get the pressure and hard sell to join "The System" as it's called.
- No one's ever succeeded without the System
- Sure it's optional, but so is success

This training/motivation as they call it never stops.. it just goes on month after month.. year after year. Name one other company that has a monthly continous for life training system that YOU have to pay for. The reason why the pressure is put on the new member is because that's where these Motivational Organizations make most of their money and where the higher up's in Quixtar/Amway get their income. This deception came to light in the UK and Republic of Ireland where Amway was placed under investigation. They had to drastically change the way they do the business there. All you need to do is google "Quixtar' on the web to find out all about how this business is truely run. My advice to you is do not join Quixtar based on what just you hear from the higher pin's (who get most of their money from your monthly payment into the System and not the product movement bonus shown to you when presented with the business opportunity) Base your research on what you can find out from other people's experiences on the web.

Based on the turmoil that is occuring overseas (Could this business change be comming to North America soon?) , my advice to you is to stay away.

Sly,

I want to say that on behalf of our organization that we find the actions you described not only inappropriate but also in violation of Quixtar's and Network TwentyOne's own rules for introducing IBOs to the Quixtar Business Opportunity.

There is not nor has never been any requirement to purchase training/support materials and/or seminar tickets as a precondition to signing up as a Quixtar IBO and the claims about easy money for simply signing up are as you stated completely untrue.

Although I realize that over two years has lapsed since your post (we only now came upon your post) I would be very interested in trying to determine how this unfortunate incident occurred, who was responsible and then take the appropriate action to protect against future incidents such as this. Should you or others have details about someone who may have represented Network TwentyOne inappropriately, please contact me at the email address below so we may investigate.

Again, on behalf of Network TwentyOne I apologize for the treatment you received and will endeavor to address this and any other inappropriate actions as we are informed.

Sincerely,

Adam Livingston
Chief Operating Officer
Network TwentyOne International
alivingston@network21.com
www.n21corp.com