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Complaint Review: Orphek USA LED Lighting - Internet

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  • Reported By: Alex — San Francisco California United States of America
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  • Orphek USA LED Lighting www.orphek.com Internet United States of America

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Earlier this year I purchased a PR-156 fixture by Orphek Reef Aquarium LED Lighting from MarineDepot.com.  When one of the LEDs burned out causing 1/4th of the unit to become inoperable, I attempted to contact Orphek for repairs, only to find out that Orphek doesn't even have a phone number listed - immediate red flag!  I assumed the purchase was safe as Marine Depot is a reputable company, but Orphek supposedly handles their own warranty work...or not.

Obviously not having a phone number is completely unprofessional and a giant warning sign, and sure enough, I was right.  An email to the company resulted in a 'japanenglish' response that read like it was google translated (badly), I knew I should have done more research before purchasing.  Subsequent barely legible emails lead me to realize that Orphek LED Lighting is apparently merely a factory overseas in some asian country, with employees that speak little or no English.  They wanted to send me a replacement part, but the parts aren't plug and play.  The "replacement part" would mean I would have to work on the circuitry myself, which I obviously was not going to do.  However, their supposed customer service rep "Simon" or "Simone" informed me in his "English" (read: google translator) that either I accept the "part" or pay for shipping back to the factory overseas, with a one month turnaround and a possible charge for the shipping.

Bottom line:  Orphek has no contact information, no representatives to assist their customers, and no "real" base of operations.  They are a fly-by-night factory that operates very unprofessionaly and  they do not honor their warranty work.  If you call them out on it, they refer you to a 20 page "legal" section of their website, which isn't legal at all. DO NOT BUY FROM ORPHEK LED LIGHTING.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.  Don't take my word for it - try to ring them up yourself, you'll see what I mean...

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#6 Consumer Comment

Liar. Coward.

AUTHOR: Sam - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, March 31, 2012

You, sir, are a liar and a coward and you will ultimately be taken to task for your actions in a court of law. 

You are also an idiot as is clearly evidenced by your nonsense about badly written English when there are a total of seven grammatical errors in your own post. Did you even finish high school? Judging by your lamentable ability to even string together a simple sentence it certainly seems you did not manage to complete your secondary education.

Do not take this moron's posts seriously. Orphek's products are outstanding and their customer service is among the best in the industry. The person posting this nonsense is either paid by an Orphek competitor or is Mike Maddox, still butt-hurt due to Orphek's dumping him for his dishonesty and inability to effectively operate a business.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Liar. Coward.

AUTHOR: Sam - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, March 31, 2012

You, sir, are a liar and a coward and you will ultimately be taken to task for your actions in a court of law. 

You are also an idiot as is clearly evidenced by your nonsense about badly written English when there are a total of seven grammatical errors in your own post. Did you even finish high school? Judging by your lamentable ability to even string together a simple sentence it certainly seems you did not manage to complete your secondary education.

Do not take this moron's posts seriously. Orphek's products are outstanding and their customer service is among the best in the industry. The person posting this nonsense is either paid by an Orphek competitor or is Mike Maddox, still butt-hurt due to Orphek's dumping him for his dishonesty and inability to effectively operate a business.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Being paid by Orphek? I think not.

AUTHOR: Joseph - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, March 30, 2012

I actually find that pretty funny since I literally have NO income coming in by ANYONE. I'm a hobbyist and a hobbyist alone. I don't even have a bank account. So that put's a big hole in your theories. I just support superior products that have proven to promote coral growth, provide excellent lighting and high numbers in both deep and shallow waters.

Try doing a little more research before you guys decide it's okay to bash a company. Aside from that, purchasing through marinedepot.com covers all support, do your research before crying.

http://www.yellowpages.com/the-woodlands-tx/mip/orphek-led-lighting-465340626

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#3 Author of original report

Orphek LED light review

AUTHOR: J. London - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, March 30, 2012

Joe, your fanboi-ism long ago discredited you as a consumer! you are obviously being paid by Orphek.  Orphek scammers I should say.

There's a whole lot of talk here and still zero phone number on Orphek's website.  In fact the site is now a bunch of BADLY WITTEN ENGRISH IN ALL CAPZ. 

I can see why Orphek has to pay people like you.  Their own image is atrocious!

Orphek scam ?  I think yes.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Marine Depot response to Orphek defamation.

AUTHOR: Joseph - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, March 08, 2012

I took it upon myself to look further into the accusations involving Orphek and Marine Depot. This is exactly what Marinedepot.com sent back to me which proves that the reports filed are pure defamation of an AMAZING LED company:

My e-mail to them:

"I have a question regarding a report on www.ripoffreport.com No need to respond quickly to this as it's not of utter importance but your guys' name is being thrown around with possibly untrue statements and thought you should perhaps see it and maybe write a rebuttal. 

This was posted: 
'Ugh. Yet another shady chinese LED company, Orphek, seems to have bitten the dust. 1/4th of my PR-156 fixture from Orphek has gone bad (won't turn on), and guess what? No response about the issue from Orphek staff, and even more suspicious: no phone number for the company on their website!! Of course Orphek's website is free of useful contact information. Who doesn't have contact info on their website? Companies trying to rip you off, thats who. And Orphek is definitely a ripoff. If I hadn't bought the unit from Marine Depot I would have been completely ripped off. Marine Depot employees also mentioned that they may stop carrying Orphek LED lights due the fact that they can't get Orphek to give customers (or them) service worth a dang. I hope they do stop carrying Orphek lights, this is unforgivable. These lights cost over $800! Chinese led lighting companies are popping up everywhere, and Orphek LED lighting is just another one to come and go. I should have realized this before purchasing. Learn from my mistake!!!'

From: http://www.ripoffreport.com/miscellaneous-electronics/orphek-led-lighting/orphek-led-lighting-orphek-usa-d0845.htm Thank you very much for your time, keep up the great work! Love your company! You guys do so much for us hobbyist! 
Joe S"

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"Hello Joe, 
Thanks for the email, and the information provided. We have a close working relationship with Orphek an continue to carry their line, in fact we just started carrying the Nilus line found herehttp://www.marinedepot.com/Orphek_Nilus_24_Inch_LED_Light_Fixture_Black_24_Inch_LED_Light_Fixtures-Orphek-UG1173-FILTFILDTF-vi.htmlOrphek has allowed us to handle any warranty claims for any of their products that were purchased thru Marine Depot. We will continue to make sure that the customer is taken care of in every possible way. I hope this helps answer any questions you may have.  

Best regards    

Walter F.
Customer Service
www.marinedepot.com
714-385-0080 x663" 


I hope this sorts everything out and it's made clear that these statements above are completely false and absurd. 

Choose Orphek if you want the best LED lighting and results of growth and beauty.  Customer service is flawless much like their products.

I hope you all enjoy your future Orphek products as much as I do!

Thank you for your time,
Joe

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Orphek Response to filed report

AUTHOR: ORPHEK SUPPORT ASSISTANCE - (Brazil)

POSTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012

Orphek is an International company selling its products worldwide, providing quality customer assistance services in many languages, including English.  

Our warranty & shipping policies are detailed in our website and we have a no return clause. Our company would never ask its clients to return a defective unit to China, simply because it is against our policy.

Units purchased in the USA with a valid warranty can be sent (by the original purchaser) to a US address for repair, upon our technical support evaluation and decision. If a defective unit cannot be repaired, and it is under a valid warranty, our company will replace it for a brand new product, free of charge. 

Orphek is not a Chinese company; we are proudly an international company spanning many countries and nationalities. We have an online Center for Technical Support, answering to enquires from all over the world, including local support in Canada, USA, Israel, Switzerland, Dubai, Brazil and UK. 

Not only that, distributors, retailers and shop owners carrying our products are required to hold a minimum stock of units/parts for replacement if needed. They are also required to provide technical support to their clients in order to answer questions, give guidance and assist in the proper use and maintenance of our units.  Our company has a very professional relationship with all distributors and resellers of our products. Marine Depot is and never was an exception
Our clients are definitely our most important assets, therefore we are 100% committed to their satisfaction. 

Our clients are definitely our most important assets, therefore we are 100% committed to their satisfaction. We invest in customer assistance efficiency because our clients have real value! Our relationship with our clients is so good in fact, that they are often proud to provide us amazing images of their tank for display in our gallery page in our website. Most of the photos in our gallery are taken by our customers with our lights over their tanks. 

In the same opportunity we would like to state that the companys disclaimer is a standard disclaimer for all companies selling products via Internet, valid for all the countries we do business with, including the USA.

We were never contacted by this supposed client and although we have gathered enough evidence that this is a fictitious persona, with the systematically clear intention to harm our image for his own personal joy or reasons, we are still giving the opportunity to stand forward and really solve this problem, if there was ever one, by contacting supportcenter@orphek.com

Stressing out a bit about this person - it came to our knowledge that he has been posting many other ripoffs report under many fictitious names, trying to mislead consumers and harm our company. Check the link to the first ripoff posted and all the comments of people that are real clients, and what they really think about Orphek Customer Assistance. 

Link to customer's comments under ripoff report

Also regarding this alleged purchaser, we advise to all consumers evaluating to purchase our products, or ANY other LED lighting product, that anonymous bashing should not be taken under consideration. 

Someone who is really not satisfied with a purchase of any kind, and has the good will of helping others, does not hide himself under an anonymous signature. Both Libel and Bashing are considered crimes even when performed via Internet anonymously, and it can be subjected to both Criminal and Civil Lawsuits.

If you are considering purchasing our products, you are more than welcome to check all the information about us in our websites and reviews posted by REAL experienced hobbyists and professionals. 

There are plenty of testimonials to prove this ripoff wrong! Check the link:

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You are also welcome to contact us for further details about the products or our warranty &
shipping policies.

Enlighten your life with Orphek LED!

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